|
|
Read the Mera one.... and that's it....
I think getting away from monthly comics is actually not a bad idea.... just been chugging along for so long.... goes through so many peaks and valleys in terms of storytelling..... graphic novels allow them to just tell stories "as they come" and "develop them more".... Something like their Earth One graphic novels would be good.... like instead of monthly Superman/Batman/Etc.... you just get occasional graphic novels that form a continuity.... (and then you can continue to do all the non-continuity graphic novels too) |
I wish they'd do more Earth One stuff
I really enjoyed the Superman Earth One series |
Quote:
|
Like, I think monthly comic books "peaked" a long time ago, like early 2000s maybe..... and since then just been awkwardly dragging things out, rebooting, reshuffling, retooling, just trying to fill every month with content..... still have some good peaks in there no doubt, but overall just doesn't have that "momentum" behind it.....
|
That's my take too @Damian Rey
The endless 'event series' have sort of done me in too...their next one by Scott Snyder, DEATH METAL, is supposed to somehow tie in ALL of DC History but here's the thing....that is like EVERY DC 'event series' now. It gets so silly after a while when DC is like, ok let's make our little mythology even more complex by adding another hidden layer to it and another biggest bad of all-time. I think the last big events I enjoyed were either FLASHPOINT or BLACKEST NIGHT. DC's obsession with it's own continuity has become way too complex. Just tell me a good story. |
I've never bothered reading those because they just seem needlessly convoluted. I loved Snyder's run on the new 52 reboot of Batman. Court of owls and zero year were stellar. I'd love you see more big stories like that in one long read.
|
I also started avoiding anything to do w Brian Michael Bendis as a writer. When he came to DC as the genius of Marvel, who birthed so many things that found their way into the MCU I thought 'cool, time for a fresh voice'.
Everything I've read he's written in DC so far has been a massive waste of time. NOTHING HAPPENS I want to estimate 80-90% of the time in his plots. And the things that do, are never elaborated on or explained. He has done more harm to Superman as a character than any writer I think ever. Supes was in such a good place too when Bendis took over as it's new creative auteur. The entire Superfamily is a huge mess now, just a massive, massive mess. I wanted to see how he would handle an event series so I gave his Leviathan series a shot and that was the final straw. That was the worst 'event series' I have ever read and the most pointless. NOTHING HAPPENED. It could have been one-issue, not six. The plot, based on a big mystery, which happens off-panel, has a stupid twist no one could guess because the big reveal involved someone who had not appeared in the book. And then it was left open-ended with zero resolution. DC of course stupidly promoted it as something that would change DC forever. |
To me, I think things peaked when they had the JLA/JSA/Young Justice books going.
|
The positive about doing graphic novels 3 or 4 times a yr is that you can treat them like movies. One big story that'd typically span a year or so if published monthly. Also the writers could take their time.
|
Quote:
I think at this point if I'm following DC mythology correctly...The multiverse was created by Perpetua who is the mom of the Anti-Monitor and Monitor and she wants to turn it evil and use it (the multiverse) as a weapon to destroy all of the other multiverses (because there can't just be one) because there is now an "omniverse" of unlimited multiverses created by whatever type of being Perpetua is. And the reason we've never heard of her before during any of the umpteen mulitverse events is because she was trapped in the Source Wall, which shielded DC's multiverse from the omniverse. But there is also, now, of course, THE DARK MULTIVERSE, which is made up worlds deemed not good enough for the multiverse. And Perpetua needs to control the dark multiverse to control the multiverse so she can destroy the omniverse. Or something like that. Until DC reboots with some other god-awful idea that will probably be crafted by Bendis and make zero sense. Definitely not convoluted at all, I can't understand why you have avoided these things Damian! |
Yeah fuck that nonsense.
Agree on Court of Owls as movie villains. Maybe if Reeves' Pattinson led bat movie does well he'll go to them next. Seems to fit his style of villainy. Here's the other thing I'd love about OGN; the art would stay consistent. I hate reading graphic novels that are told thru different character issues. Always takes me out of it whenthe art changes. |
And I like w/ OGNs they could tell the story, through one or four graphic novels and then boom, someone else could tell a totally different story without worrying about continuity. Just focused on good stories and nice art.
|
wrap it up asap
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"I'm heading toward the end of my run on Superman. So I've been more reflective on it and...I will never be more grateful than I got to heal my near-death experience through Superman and then get through this pandemic." - <a href="https://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BRIANMBENDIS</a> in his interview on "Off Panel".</p>— Comic Boom! - Shakalaka Boom! (@Metropolis40) <a href="https://twitter.com/Metropolis40/status/1270001415729995778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Quote:
|
I read DEATH METAL #1 and actually really liked it.
It had quite the surprise ending - I did not expect this to happen in issue 1 of the series SPOILER: show |
I already love the tonal shift
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">First ever sneak peek at JL. Get ready for more at DC FanDome. <a href="https://twitter.com/hbomax?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@hbomax</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/releasethesnydercut?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#releasethesnydercut</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DCFanDome?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DCFanDome</a> <a href="https://t.co/WIWwFo4Xnt">pic.twitter.com/WIWwFo4Xnt</a></p>— Zack Snyder (@ZackSnyder) <a href="https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1273646510542974981?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Quote:
Justice League didn't have that. I did a re watch the other day and man it's just boring to look at. Snyder's cut will certainly be interesting if nothing else. |
Excited for the return of Doom Patrol
<iframe width="1129" height="635" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/I6Fl_Kz-jw8" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Alright. I'm actually excited this thread is still going. Since my last run here I've gotten ridiculously into DC. I'm making my way through all of rebirth at the moment. Currently caught up with:
Flash Rebirth Batman Rebirth Superman Rebirth Action Comics Rebirth Super Sons Working on: Nightwing (Issue 25 atm) Red Hood/Outlaws (Issue 20) I've gotta say, rebirth has been fucking awesome for the most part. Tom King Batman is a little baffling sometimes because it essentially feels like a romance novel but I cant help but like it more than dislike it. There's valid reasons to dislike it but Tom King is a fantastic writer, IMO. Even when I dont like the stories that are being told, they're always told well. Initially wasn't digging Seeley Nightwing but I think I'm back in after "Nightwing Must Die." Williamson Flash is tits as fuck. Not sure if I'm in with all of the different "forces" that were introduced because it feels like a rehash of the Lantern colors in a way but everything else has been on point. Superman Rebirth was almost life changing. I've never been able to dive into Supes until now but it's been the most enjoyable series I've read so far. I'm going to read all of rebirth, just going to take me a moment. Might not read Batwoman though because I don't want to repeatedly slam my head against my desk. |
Detective Comics Rebirth was incredibly good.
Yeah, I loved Superman Rebirth..... just wait until you get up to where Bendis comes in and ruins everything |
Quote:
|
I also really enjoyed Green Lanterns, the book starring Simon Baz and Jessica Cruz.... a shame that they canceled it to have Grant Morrison (generally overrated) write the only Green Lantern book.....
|
Quote:
Order will be something like: Green Lanterns Titans Suicide Squad Detective Comics Hal/Green Lantern New Superman Teen Titans Batgirl Deathstroke Supergirl JLA The Terrifics Probably missing some. Gonna hit it all though. Maybe not Cyborg or Blue Beetle because I haven't heard good things and zi don't think I'm be missing out on anything imperative. |
Did you do Aquaman? Aquaman was consistently good through the New 52 and into Rebirth...
Or are you one of THOSE people who hate on Aquaman |
Naw, Im down with Aquaman. Just forgot to put it on there. I heard Aquaman Rebirth was good. Forgot Green Arrow too. Ill eventually get through it all. Try to read at least 5 comics a night if I can. I have babies coming soon though so I might be doing this at a snails pace soon.
Dc Universe App isn't current with all the issues either so I'll eventually have to completely catch up with everything. I'm looking at it like a project. |
I agree on Flash Rebirth -- I'm not sold on the forces but I've loved the run overall. I really, really liked the Flash: Year One arc.
Co-signed on Tom King. His Bat/Cat stuff is great and, I don't know if you've heard of this, he did a one-shot Batman/Elmer Fudd crossover. Yes, that Elmer Fudd. Yes, I know that sounds ridiculous. Yes, it is also amazing. Ohhhh Lock Jaw and I are so on the same Bendis page w/ Supes. Everything Bendis has done to Supes just upsets me as a comic fan so much. I think I'd consider it the worst run on a character in DC history possibly. Elmer Fudd/Bats by Tom King tho -- amazing. |
Scott Snyder also partially to blame for stealing Lex Luthor.... feel like the years long arc of Lex Luthor playing hero had a very "unsatisfying conclusion" of pretty much "yeah, forget this"..... feel like after all that, I wish the payoff was more....
Not that I have read any of the Year of the Villain stuff.... mad behind.... last Justice League I read was that crossover with Aquaman.... |
Where do we all stand on Heroes in Crisis? Lots of fan boys motherfuck Tom King to death for HIC. I actually liked it but it definitely had a fatal flaw. The big gaping problem to me was that there's no justification for Wally reacting that way to the situation. I can buy that it happened and how it happened, I cannot make sense of what he did afterwards (being vague for spoiler sake. Don't know if anybody cares or not.) It just feels like it flies in the face of everything WW stands for. Story pretty beautifully written though.
|
I liked the idea behind Sanctuary, but yeah... Wally reacting how he did seemed pretty far fetched....
Have not read his "Flash Forward" series to see if they already somehow Parallaxe'd him or something |
I wish HIC had a stronger ending tying up Sanctuary -- but I did really like it quite a bit. Loved the art. Loved the little character bits we would get in each issue.
Wonderfully written and fantastic concept. |
Quote:
SPOILER: show |
Yeah, Im back in on Seeley Nightwing. The bastard roped me back. Nightwing Must Die was better than expected. He's pulling in alot of stuff from Grant Morrisson era Batman and I'm a bit if a sucker for it. Also, Seeley is really good at capturing the Grayson/Damian relationship, which I'm a solid fan of.
|
This thread is over 10yrs old, Narc. And that's 10yrs healthy engagement. It's sister thread kinda dried up, tho. I got my theories on that.
|
For real had no idea slik was a comic book guy until he started commenting on my comic posts on Facebook. Pleasant surprises all around. Lock Jaw and Kalyx are the usual suspects.
|
Although as stated I am way behind on everything... seems like I haven't regularly read anything in like 1.5 years....
Last thing I did read was actually Marvel, was catching up on Star Wars comics..... |
I read digital so it's easier to do alot at once. I guess that's controversial to some people. I tend to buy the trades that I like though
|
I read mostly digital..... Last stuff I was buying was the Superman Rebirth stuff..... bought a bit of the Bendis stuff, but stopped due to the aforementioned frustrations....
Also bought Metal/Doomsday Clock/Heroes in Crisis..... As far as trades go, I bought Green Lanterns and New Super-Man. Would have bought more Rebirth stuff, but I think I am largely "done" with physical copies.... dunno... Only thing I see myself buying is future hardcover editions of "Saga".... |
Michael Keaton in talks to appear as Batman in the upcoming Flash movie (and maybe a multi-movie deal)
|
The flash movie is going to be how they retcon the universe and that has me excited
|
Gustin should cameo since everything is canon now.
|
I'm excited for Keaton but he better be in a damn batsuit.
Always thought they should've done an animated film for the scraped 3rd Burton film much like they did animating new 60s adventures. Honestly, if the Snyder JL cut is a hit in terms of viewers, maybe throw money at him and the cast to get them to finish part 2 if it ends on a cliff hanger in animated form |
Itll get views. Car wrecks get views too.
|
Yeah I dunno if casting Keaton as Batman is a great idea creatively right now...
I understand the financial rewards of this sort of thing but it reeks of pandering and I think a few of us are getting sick of mechanical nostalgia. Stranger Things was so bad... |
Disagree.
|
Quote:
I’ve honestly been a lot more into image comics than either Marvel or DC. Much nicer reading one book for one story, without having to worry about about how 70 other titles and an annual crossover are going to affect it. |
James Tynion's first arc on Batman as headwriter ended today with quite the twist, setting up his big "Joker War" arc he's been hyping.
I gotta give DC credit on this, for keeping this twist from being revealed earlier. Joker's going to have some fun w/ Gotham and the Bat fam... SPOILER: show |
Well that's interesting
|
Quote:
|
He has played two winged comic book characters since Batman.
He's not that far away... |
I mean, those movies were 20+ years after Batman Returns and neither were Batman type characters. At least the vulture wasn't. I haven't watched Birdman. This is pretty cool. I was 3 when Batman 89 came out and that's the movie that hooked me. So for me, this is fucking awesome. Keaton is the Batman of my childhood.
|
Birdman is brilliant
|
I've heard great things and my brother has it on vudu I just haven't gotten around to it.
|
Ed Norton and Michael Keaton play the role of their own reputations.
It's a great film. |
Caught up on Nightwing Rebirth. I wanted to like it all the way through but it got real fuxkin weird after
SPOILER: show I wasn't a fan of the Defacer stuff in the beginning, then they sold me on it, then they abandoned it. So what the hell. Raptor was pretty dope though. I'm firmly in the camp of "Nightwing needs his own villain instead of Batman retreads" except in the case of the court of owls. I'm alright with them exclusively being NW territory now, it makes sense. Highlights of the run was definitely the "Rise of Raptor" and "Better than Batman" stuff. Oh and the arc with the Judge was fucking incredible. Lowlight to me was the Wyrm arc and the Ric Grayson shit (which I almost couldn't bring myself to finish). Was slow to finish this because it got really slow and I wasn't excited to read it after awhile. I do two rebirth series at a time so now I'll be on: Red Hood Outlaw/s Rebirth (still) Aquaman Rebirth |
Keep in mind I'm not fully caught up, just caught up on what they have on the DC Universe app. I think this series stopped at 62. Ill keep up as issues are put on there each month.
|
Dick Grayson sure been through the ringer past number of years..... "killed" and becomes a super-spy (I actually really enjoyed the Grayson series)... then brought "back to life" and becomes Nightwing again.... only to be shot in the head and forget who he is and become Ric Grayson
|
When does he go queer and become Gay Dickson?
|
This thing with Punchline is dumb but I have a strange kind of foresight telling me that the general direction between Harley and the three Jokers thing will lead to Harley becoming the new Joker in a twisted spin on the mantle passing thing. Won't be now, or even next year, but it's coming.
|
And that Joker will be a hero.
|
Nah. Harley Quinn and Joker are too popular to really change.
Speaking of, just watched season finale of Harley Quinn.... such a great show. Really pulling for a Season 3. |
Aquaman Rebirth not even giving me time to settle in. You're just going to start with a Black Manta battle? I just got here. It's like when your NFL team starts the season with a divisional rival. You're not even going to give me some time to get comfortable? We're just going to start with violent and bitter warfare? Don't even know what to do right now.
|
I didn't even get an appetizer. This is so much to handle right now.
|
Quote:
It is pretty damned funny. |
https://cosmicbook.news/ben-affleck-...ct-hbo-max?amp
This is the second article I've seen with rumors of Affleck returning. I figured if true, perhaps HBO max was going to commission Snyder to finish his Justice League sequel and/or pull a Netflix and making shows or miniseries based on DC properties that would allow them to have higher production values and darker themes, like Daredevil. If true, then color me pumped. Keaton coming back to dawn the batsuit, Affleck having his Batman exist in his own universe, and Pattinson getting to reboot the movie universe Batman. It might be a fun time to be a DC fan. |
Ben Affleck needs to fuck off and just direct or retire or something.
|
And it's "Batman" not "Batmen" so one at a time is enough.
|
Meh. DC has endless stories it can tell. There's no reason not to explore as much as possible. Affleck was good in bvs. Prob the best part of the movie, even tho lunatic Batman isn't my cup of tea.
I still think Snyder's cut of JL will prob be bad. But if that spins Affleck into his own focused miniseries exclusively on HBO, count me in. |
Quote:
|
Nah, not really. Temporary changes can be made for sure, but the classics always return
|
With wildly retconned or diminished personalities, sure.
|
Nah..... they are always basically the same
|
Damn, read another rumored Bendis idea on BleedingCool...
Please get him away from Superman ASAP SPOILER: show |
But Superman will basically be the same, I hear.
|
Aquaman Rebirth is dope as fuck so far. So much has happened and I'm only 12 issues in.
|
"A new rumor suggests Warner Bros. is planning to reboot Justice League with a film entitled Justice League: Rebirth.
According to DCEU Mythic, the film will have no connection to either 2017's Justice League or the forthcoming Zack Snyder's Justice League. It's also unclear who will comprise the team's roster, what the story will center on and who Warner Bros. is eyeing to lead the project from a creative standpoint." |
I am subscribed to a subscription service touted to be the "ultimate DC Comics experience," yet every awesome DC announcement coming out has nothing to do with "the ultimate DC Comics experience." I mean, I would sub even if it was only comics but them taking on all these projects that purposely avoid DC Universe doesn't make me feel like I'm apart of "the ultimate DC Comics experience."
|
Dunno. I can see them bundling HBO Max and DC Universe...... with DC Universe either being a free add-on, or very cheap.
But makes sense "from a certain point of view" to keep their movie/TV stuff on one platform. Like, all the Marvel shows they are making are gonna be on Disney+ not the Marvel Comics App. |
I would be fine subbing if it was just comics but that's not what they advertised. Honestly, they bungled DC Universe so bad. For how awesome it is now, they royally fucked up launch and they never really fully recovered from it. First, the name absolute fucking sucks and is confusing because they have a video game of the same name, making it weird to search for. Second, they didn't get on gaming consoles for like a year and they still never made it to PS4, which cut out a large portion of their demo. Thirdly, they cycle content in and out instead of just adding video content. Lastly, every cool thing DC announces is on some other platform. If it is on DCU, its on another platform also (Stargirl).
That being said, I love the app. Im on it every day and have platinum status. The community is awesome, the original content they actually do have is good, and the archive of comics is fucking massive. It could have been alot more than it is though and its pretty clear they have put it on the backburner to pursue other projects. They wouldn't have had to do this if they had their shit more together at launch |
The shows are being pulled from the app because it cant financially support them. Its not a choice. The app is a failure and right now AT&T is trimming fat. They cant keep losing money. Moving these shows to a platform with a larger install base is the only way to pay for them.
These are necessities. Things continue like they are and theyll have to sell licensing for these brands altogether. |
Naw, I get why. Their marketing teams are just complete knuckle dragging morons.
|
Is the Marvel Comics app pushed/advertised at all in the USA? Feel like I barely hear anything about it..... so pretty similar to what DC Universe will be.... those hardcore fans who want it will get it, while those more casual who only care about tv/movies can get another service.
But I agree at DC Universe seeming to want to be a more "multimedia" thing was a big failure..... |
I dont know where theyre marketing the marvel app. Word of mouth?
|
This is the first I've heard of it. What is even the point of it with Disney Plus available?
|
It is for digital comic books and prob like more than 80% of the people interested in the MCU movies/shows have no actual interest in reading the comics
|
Yeah but Marvel Unlimited is just a comics library. Warner put millions upon millions of dollars into original content for the DC Universe app. When they went live, their distribution was through their own platform, Roku, and maybe Apple. Thats it. When it first came out, I couldn't justify it because I couldn't watch any of the content anywhere but my phone and that blows. Not to mention they had maybe 1000 comics. They launched way before they were ready, in my opinion, and it hurt them. By the time they became fucking awesome, alot of people had already made up their minds.
Its a great product now but early execution was so awful. Ended up costing them alot of money. |
Not to mention that they just made really fucking weird PR decisions also. They announced that Swamp Thing was canceled before the show debuted. I can't logically find a reason why they did that. Even if they weren't going to renew it, it seems insane to announce a show is canceled before it ever airs. That also put an aura of "oh damn. Maybe this app isn't going to last" into the air so it hurt subscribers right before an event that would have brought in subs. They frustrate the fuck out of me.
|
Yeah, no doubt they would have been better off just making it a comics library and focusing on that.
Doom Patrol and Harley Quinn are fantastic though, so glad we got that out of it. Titans S1 was like a trainwreck that you can't look away from, haven't watched season 2. Missed out on Swamp Thing, but with all the production nightmares and getting canceled before airing or whatever it was.... kind of killed the hype for it. Stargirl alright so far. Things I don't like, things I like. Still need to see where it goes. With it going to the CW it will last like 17 years like all CW shows. Just worried about the budget for S.T.R.I.P.E. |
Swamp Thing is fucking dope, by the way. You should make it a priority to watch it at some point.
|
Think I heard that CW also got the rights for that and will be playing the season sometime this year....
|
Quote:
|
Unfortunately, as I said, I missed it when it was originally playing here, and they aren't really itching to replay it I guess.
|
I have it on the blue ray, sonnnnnnn.
|
Pfffft physical media.....
|
I was stream elitist until maybe a few months ago when I realized that all of my favorite media is in the hands of corporations that can edit it however they please. Now I'm going to be the Indiana Jones of DVDs.
|
Yeah... I do really want a cut of the original Star Wars trilogy that is the one I grew up with.
Which was apparently already not the original cut, so I guess I don't want that either (but I'd take it over what they got now). |
Ive been building a physical film collection for half a decade or so. Trying to own all the classics. In the very near future we're going all digital so i think a physical library is going to grow in value
|
Amateurs
|
Javicia Leslie cast as the new Batwoman
Instead of being a recast Kate Kane, she will be a new character and new Batwoman: Quote:
|
| All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:44 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin®