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Emperor Smeat 08-18-2019 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 5278400)
:lol: come on dude. Ripping off the face's mask is something done on every lucha libre show in every city in Mexico.

Besides, Penta has almost full facepaint on under the mask.

Usually not as slow or as clean of a shot of the face as Moxley did to Pentagon.

They do go overboard with the actual ripping of the masks that you might as well not even be wearing one. Like El Hijo de Fantasma's face was pretty much exposed during last year's TripleMania main event match due to how badly LA Park ripped his mask prior to having to be officially unmasked.

Jordan 08-18-2019 08:51 PM

I switched from Direc TV Now to Sling and I can see ROH plays on The Stadium Network, watching it. It's an 8 man from The Hammerstein Show. Crowd is shot very well and the show and workers are great.

Emperor Smeat 08-18-2019 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5278421)
I don't care for it either but if NXT goes to USA, WWE will need a new development territory.

There is a rumor that WWE is going to split their Performance Center again to create a new developmental system.

Right now, WWE's developmental system is pretty much 3 divisions:
* PC - all the raw and new talent
* NXT (non-TV) - everyone who does NXT house show tours but are not tv ready or rarely appear on NXT TV
* NXT (proper) - television ready talent.

Non-TV NXT would become the new official developmental system instead of simply being the hidden part of NXT.

Jordan 08-18-2019 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5278460)
There is a rumor that WWE is going to split their Performance Center again to create a new developmental system.

Right now, WWE's developmental system is pretty much 3 divisions:
* PC - all the raw and new talent
* NXT (non-TV) - everyone who does NXT house show tours but are not tv ready or rarely appear on NXT TV
* NXT (proper) - television ready talent.

Non-TV NXT would become the new official developmental system instead of simply being the hidden part of NXT.

That is what I figure I'm just seeing so much Evolve crossover I feel they will start to identify as a development, and I think it would be good considering they have an audience already. WWE can just start sending those who they'd send to NXT TV to Evolve, and when they are ready at Evolve they get the call up to Raw, NXT or Smackdown.

Jordan 08-18-2019 08:58 PM

Is anyone watching ROH right now?

This 8-Man was great!

slik 08-19-2019 01:18 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The first commercial for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a> on FOX aired Sunday Night. <a href="https://t.co/5aKwCiQ4AA">pic.twitter.com/5aKwCiQ4AA</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1163318267085283329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DaveWadding 08-19-2019 01:38 AM

I'm watching this Summer Slam spectacular special RAW from like 1993. I miss this. Hot crowd for a Steiners/Money Inc cage match, Gorilla and JR on commentary. Mad nostalgia.

Emperor Smeat 08-19-2019 03:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lmao jeez him and his championship belt <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEHouston?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEHouston</a> <a href="https://t.co/c3lrKDM1h8">pic.twitter.com/c3lrKDM1h8</a></p>&mdash; The Author Not Known... (@cartezaugustus) <a href="https://twitter.com/cartezaugustus/status/1162932080201863168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat 08-19-2019 04:46 PM

Two recent rumors going around the net regarding backstage stuff in WWE.

The first being that CFO$ might have recently left the company. Basis for the rumor is the lack of their music appearing in recent WWE releases on iTunes and elsewhere. Also a lot of people in NXT UK are still using stock music for themes.

The second being more rumblings of 205 Live ending this year and very likely in October when the new tv contracts take effect. Might be the reason behind both Kalisto and Gran Metalik's recent tweets of them leaving the company once their current contracts expire since they know their tv time is going to get cut back by a lot.

Mr. Nerfect 08-19-2019 09:20 PM

Wasn’t Gran Metalik a legend in Mexico? Lol.

Jordan 08-19-2019 11:18 PM

Lance Archer was just featured in a major way even took a stunner on the latest episode of Straight Up Steve Austin. He came off like a star. Feeling like his days in Japan are numbered.

Black Widow 08-20-2019 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5278463)
Is anyone watching ROH right now?

This 8-Man was great!

Nope! I don't waste my time with the other 20 companies like super NERDS do.

Bad News Gertner 08-20-2019 11:39 AM

You have almost 2500 posts on a wrestling message board

Black Widow 08-20-2019 12:08 PM

Yeah but wrestling shows are 2 to 3hrs and it takes less than a minute to type 95% of my posts.

That's really not that many in the 6/7yrs I been on here.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-20-2019 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5278819)
Yeah but wrestling shows are 2 to 3hrs and it takes less than a minute to type 95% of my posts.

you fucking knob.

Black Widow 08-20-2019 12:12 PM

Aww!

Y'all get so trigger by insults but it's what y'all do frequently on here when y'all nerds don't like a wrestler.

Bad News Gertner 08-20-2019 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5278819)
Yeah but wrestling shows are 2 to 3hrs and it takes less than a minute to type 95% of my posts.

That's really not that many in the 6/7yrs I been on here.

It still shows commitment, plus you are spending time reading posts. Not that my 45,000 is anything to brag about. So much time wasted. So much time.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-20-2019 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Widow (Post 5278821)
Aww!

Y'all get so trigger by insults but it's what y'all do frequently on here when y'all nerds don't like a wrestler.

I don't see how me calling you a knob (which is stating the obvious, really) is getting triggered. But sure.

Sepholio 08-20-2019 02:35 PM

I read Dales last post as REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Emperor Smeat 08-20-2019 04:56 PM

Apparently Stephanie McMahon had another tone deaf moment on Twitter recently involving her trying to bring awareness to the lack of women representation in sports media.

Predictably it caused a bunch of complaints revolving around her hypocrisy of demanding others improve the status of women in their field of employment while ignoring WWE's own poor treatment of their women's division, especially in terms of quality screen time.

Fightful did some math (not the Steiner type) to find out if the complaints were justified and only dating back to the Evolution PPV (October). Turns out WWE's women's division lost over 2 hours of total screen time since Ronda left and Smackdown being the worst brand for women in terms of screen time percentage.

https://www.fightful.com/wrestling/e...y-less-airtime

Sepholio 08-20-2019 05:44 PM

Ronda Rousey injured on the set of 9-1-1. Damn near severed a finger apparently but played it off and finished the scene without breaking character.

slik 08-20-2019 07:33 PM

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Emperor Smeat 08-21-2019 05:35 PM

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Fignuts 08-21-2019 07:38 PM

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Emperor Smeat 08-21-2019 09:05 PM

Wonder how long till Vince and the XFL get hit with copyright and/or trademark disputes since a couple of the team logos for XFL 2.0 are very similar to logos owned by others.

Like the Houston Roughnecks logo is similar to the old Houston Oilers logo and almost a blatant copy of an existing soccer team in Tulsa.

Emperor Smeat 08-21-2019 11:49 PM

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Droford 08-22-2019 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5279114)
Wonder how long till Vince and the XFL get hit with copyright and/or trademark disputes since a couple of the team logos for XFL 2.0 are very similar to logos owned by others.

Like the Houston Roughnecks logo is similar to the old Houston Oilers logo and almost a blatant copy of an existing soccer team in Tulsa.

I know they're trying to keep new xfl and WWE separate but St Louis should have been called the Vipers for Orton

Droford 08-22-2019 02:21 AM

If CFO$ is out for making entrance themes I feel like they're going to go back to that weird period around 2000 where they were using real music or getting real bands do music for themes. On one hand most of CFO$'s themes were great, on the other hand they suck to listen to since they all loop after a short period of time

Emperor Smeat 08-22-2019 03:13 AM

Don't know anything about the group's work pre-WWE but their problems in WWE were pretty much twofold.

The first issue being WWE putting a bigger priority on themes fitting great as ringtones around the same time mobile phones started to become a mainstream craze. Shorter themes is also why WWE eventually scaled down the size of the ramp and time for entrances.

The other issue being WWE's constant splurging of signings meant CFO$ had to crank out themes at a faster pace than Jim Johnston ever had to worry about which meant less time spent working per theme and the hit on quality as a result.

Bad News Gertner 08-22-2019 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5279126)
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Lol so true about the Mountie. Go watch any 1992 Superstars on the Network. He LOVES being the Mountie. Probably because Jacques Rougeau is obnoxious in real life, so this way he gets to be obnoxious and make money off it. So great.

Here's the match


Droford 08-22-2019 08:12 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Happiest day of my life. For the rest of my life. ❤️��❤️ <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERollins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@wwerollins</a> <a href="https://t.co/pfMEyEltGS">pic.twitter.com/pfMEyEltGS</a></p>&mdash; The Man (@BeckyLynchWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE/status/1164684584870563840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 22, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Evil Vito 08-22-2019 08:15 PM

Lol engaged after 6 months of dating. That’ll end well.

ClockShot 08-22-2019 08:23 PM

The wedding will be at WrestleMania.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-22-2019 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5279250)
Lol engaged after 6 months of dating. That’ll end well.

There's no predetermined amount of time needed to decide if who you're with is who you want to be with.

That said, I don't give it long.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-22-2019 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5279250)
Lol engaged after 6 months of dating. That’ll end well.

Esp since Seth is a gaping douchebag of a man lol

slik 08-22-2019 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 5279251)
The wedding will be at WrestleMania.

Don't give WWE any ideas...

Damian Rey 2.0 08-22-2019 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5279256)
Esp since Seth is a gaping douchebag of a man lol

This far more concerning than how long they've been together

Evil Vito 08-22-2019 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5279255)
There's no predetermined amount of time needed to decide if who you're with is who you want to be with.

Oh I know. Just seems like celebs always get married hella fast and they’ve got an even worse divorce rate than normal people as a result lol.

In fairness though I’d have popped the question to Becky Lunch in like 3 weeks

Damian Rey 2.0 08-23-2019 12:25 AM

3 weeks? Amateur. 2nd date I'd have cashed out my 401k to buy her a ring the size of the big gold belt.

Gerard 08-23-2019 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5279160)
Lol so true about the Mountie. Go watch any 1992 Superstars on the Network. He LOVES being the Mountie. Probably because Jacques Rougeau is obnoxious in real life, so this way he gets to be obnoxious and make money off it. So great.

Here's the match


The Mounties "SHOCK STICK" was always amusing, had a different dubbed in sound effect every other week. His original one just seemed to be a tube with a switch wrapped in red and yellow tape, the upgraded one seemed to actually function as you could see the electric bouncing between the prongs when he would use it in promos. Can see the electric briefly when he gets the stick in this match as well.

Emperor Smeat 08-23-2019 09:47 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">UPDATE: Told my wife <a href="https://twitter.com/WWERollins?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWERollins</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BeckyLynchWWE</a> got engaged today.<br><br>She said if they need any tips on a healthy relationship not to bother asking us.<br><br>STILL yet to consummate my marriage.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Maverick247?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Maverick247</a></p>&mdash; Drake Maverick (@WWEMaverick) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEMaverick/status/1164732170952306688?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 08-24-2019 12:42 AM

Some people just click and know. They've also been around each other for years and years. That being said, Seth is a giant tossbag.

Gerard 08-24-2019 11:48 AM

Lynch already sounds like a man in interviews, hate to think what she sounds like when she's getting pumped.

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Probably a good approximation.

Evil Vito 08-24-2019 11:56 AM

Seth and Becky’s marriage will be fine unless one of them gets tired of freaky CrossFit sex.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-24-2019 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5279425)
Seth and Becky’s marriage will be fine unless one of them gets tired of freaky CrossFit sex.

WOD:

3x 20 missionary penetration thrusts x 40 burpees x 60-second 69ers x 10 power cleans x 2 minute blowjob x 10 muscleups x 2 minute cunnilinguis

Sixx 08-24-2019 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5277865)
Im fully expecting the Fiend to be a comedy gimmick eventually with R Truth.

Why? Because A Fiend is just missing an R to be a Friend

Holy shit, I doubt even small children would think this is funny.

Sixx 08-24-2019 03:15 PM

So what would Styles' gimmick be if he changed the A for a B?

Vastardikai 08-24-2019 03:22 PM

I am sure they do it in Amazon position.

Emperor Smeat 08-24-2019 07:05 PM

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Savio Vega being the guy who handed both The Rock and Austin their first losses is the biggest surprise in the entire list considering how his WWF career played out.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-24-2019 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5279456)
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Savio Vega being the guy who handed both The Rock and Austin their first losses is the biggest surprise in the entire list considering how his WWF career played out.

it's weird. He isn't necessarily beloved by the IWC but a lot of the wrestlers seem to respect him.

Emperor Smeat 08-24-2019 08:16 PM

Yeah. Had to look up what he actually achieved in WWF since it felt like he had a successful career there but he really didn't.

He was a decent and reliable midcard type guy but doesn't come close to being a Roberts/DiBiase in terms of star and legend status for notable guys who never won gold in WWF/WWE.

Emperor Smeat 08-25-2019 01:07 AM

Apparently Alberto Del Rio's big plans to run his own wrestling promotion, Nacion Lucha Libre, have become a huge failure barely 2 tapings into its existence.

Already dealing with serious money issues resulting in talent and others not being paid. Also had their announcer quit after the 2nd tapings.

Droford 08-25-2019 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SixxT9 (Post 5279441)
So what would Styles' gimmick be if he changed the A for a B?

Pro baseball player

Sixx 08-25-2019 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5279510)
Pro baseball player

Well --played.

DaveWadding 08-25-2019 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5279500)
Apparently Alberto Del Rio's big plans to run his own wrestling promotion, Nacion Lucha Libre, have become a huge failure barely 2 tapings into its existence.

Already dealing with serious money issues resulting in talent and others not being paid. Also had their announcer quit after the 2nd tapings.

EL PATRON

ClockShot 08-25-2019 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5279500)
Apparently Alberto Del Rio's big plans to run his own wrestling promotion, Nacion Lucha Libre, have become a huge failure barely 2 tapings into its existence.

Already dealing with serious money issues resulting in talent and others not being paid. Also had their announcer quit after the 2nd tapings.

Just scared thinking about where the money is coming from for this.

Volare 08-25-2019 09:11 AM

Is this why he's fighting Tito Ortiz?

Gerard 08-25-2019 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 5279528)
Just scared thinking about where the money is coming from for this.

He's Mexican Royalty, remember? When he farts a few grand comes out of his ass.

Fignuts 08-25-2019 03:49 PM

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DaveWadding 08-25-2019 06:23 PM

So good

Emperor Smeat 08-25-2019 07:45 PM

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slik 08-25-2019 08:12 PM

ROH thriving


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In January 2018, ROH drew one of, if not their largest crowd in Nashville, easily exceeding 1,000. 17 months later, this is what’s left. Setup is for no more than 400 people and GA are being upgraded to reserved seating. <a href="https://t.co/3uurIlEVnk">pic.twitter.com/3uurIlEVnk</a></p>&mdash; Ben Turpen (@BenTurpen) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenTurpen/status/1165749978347855872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 08-25-2019 08:40 PM

Wonder what is ROH's breaking point with Delirious and Bully Ray running Creative. They need major changes done behind the scenes to fix things but the company doesn't seem to care.

Even before the Elite left, there were growing issues and cracks showing with Delirious' management of Creative. Bringing in Bully Ray for a lead role in Creative just made things worse in the end.

mike adamle 08-25-2019 08:52 PM

That tweet says 6:17. I don't think the show started until 8:00 p.m. I don't imagine most arenas fill up two hours before show time...

Emperor Smeat 08-25-2019 09:46 PM

It filled in a lot better during the show itself based on some gifs and photos but I'd guess somewhere around 300 for the crowd size tonight.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2019 01:25 AM

Everyone works the ROH style now, so what’s the point of it?

Fignuts 08-26-2019 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5279631)
Everyone works the ROH style now, so what’s the point of it?

https://i.imgur.com/Ygf8OME.png

Emperor Smeat 08-26-2019 03:10 AM

They have Cobb, RUSH, and Scurll that can easily be in that role if they had bothered to seriously invest in them. Instead they don't because morons run the book and decided to put all their eggs in Matt Taven being that guy.

Even newer stuff like their women's division has suffered from how badly its been mismanaged and half-assed right from the start. Not even WWE was as inept as ROH was when it came to holding a women's tournament.

mike adamle 08-26-2019 07:55 AM

I'll agree with you on RUSH, but Cobb and Scurll wouldn't get anymore eyeballs on their product than they already have. They are not big time players.

I've never seen a worse Kazuchika Okada match than the one he had with Marty Scurll at All In. Marty just isn't a main eventer. He's a good junior heavyweight/tag team hand. But he isn't Will Ospreay or Zack Sabre Jr.

Jeff Cobb can be a good attraction style wrestler similar to Big Show, Kane, and Undertaker types. He's a different style match than you normally get in ROH. He's not year long world champion material. Maybe a short run here or there to keep him believably in the mix but other than that he isn't a top hand.

Right now the only guys that can really be top guys in ROH are Jay Lethal, RUSH, and PCO. Maybe if they invested in him and protected his weaknesses you could add Bandido to that list but he still has a ways to go.

Jordan 08-26-2019 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5279596)
ROH thriving


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In January 2018, ROH drew one of, if not their largest crowd in Nashville, easily exceeding 1,000. 17 months later, this is what’s left. Setup is for no more than 400 people and GA are being upgraded to reserved seating. <a href="https://t.co/3uurIlEVnk">pic.twitter.com/3uurIlEVnk</a></p>&mdash; Ben Turpen (@BenTurpen) <a href="https://twitter.com/BenTurpen/status/1165749978347855872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Man this hurts. Honestly feeling pretty bad for PCO, he was so pumped a year ago, ontop of the world. Got a few offers and took the best one ROH. Now look at him. Killing himself before a couple dozen fans.

This is sad. I've not had access to ROH TV (on TV, not the web) since the HDnet days. I just got access to it and have it on my DVR to record new episodes because the one I caught last week was really fantastic. Everything about it was really top notch. I don't think there is a savior for ROH at this point. The loss of The Elite is why this is happening.

Jordan 08-26-2019 08:28 AM

Anyone watch enough Japan to know if Cody Hall is worth going to WWE?

Vastardikai 08-26-2019 09:05 AM

The problem with Delirious is that he is one of the boys first and booker second. He often lets whoever the top guy is do whatever they want, good ideas be damned.

Ultra Mantis 08-26-2019 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5279648)
Anyone watch enough Japan to know if Cody Hall is worth going to WWE?

He was the drizzling shits in New Japan and apparently made absolutely zero improvement during his time in NOAH.

Bad News Gertner 08-26-2019 09:57 AM

He's also a giant pain in the ass from what I've heard.

Lol Cody Rhodes cutting him down on Twitter was just fucking savage.

Bad News Gertner 08-26-2019 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5279650)
The problem with Delirious is that he is one of the boys first and booker second. He often lets whoever the top guy is do whatever they want, good ideas be damned.

He's also been doing it with ROH for so long that maybe he's just spent. That's a long friggen time to be booking.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-26-2019 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5279654)
He's also a giant pain in the ass from what I've heard.

Lol Cody Rhodes cutting him down on Twitter was just fucking savage.

need further deets

Gerard 08-26-2019 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 5279652)
He was the drizzling shits in New Japan and apparently made absolutely zero improvement during his time in NOAH.

For your viewing pleasure. :lol:


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Bad News Gertner 08-26-2019 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5279659)
need further deets

Never mind, it wasn't Cody Rhodes. It was Hurricane. Phil Baroni was Cody Rhodes.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-26-2019 12:05 PM

Yeah I remember Hurricane owning him.

Droford 08-26-2019 04:48 PM

Im sorry in advance

SPOILER: show
Really sorry..
SPOILER: show
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Emperor Smeat 08-26-2019 05:09 PM

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GD 08-26-2019 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5279674)
Im sorry in advance

SPOILER: show
Really sorry..
SPOILER: show
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">How it feels to wear matching bra and panties <a href="https://t.co/frrv1AR3Qw">pic.twitter.com/frrv1AR3Qw</a></p>&mdash; Jessi Davin (@jessithebuckeye) <a href="https://twitter.com/jessithebuckeye/status/1166052794673053697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Never apologize.

Evil Vito 08-26-2019 06:10 PM

RE: ROH

On top of the fact that they put most of their eggs in the The Elite basket and then everyone but Marty left, they just have a major issue with talent. They hadn't been a destination company for hot young talent for years, and by the last couple years there's nothing they offer that another company doesn't do better. For a while one of the things propping them up was semi-regular appearances from top-tier NJPW talent, so you could go to their TV tapings and have good odds of seeing multiple matches featuring Okada, Tanahashi, and Naito, but now NJPW just runs their own shows in the US. They had a wave of pretty interesting signings at the end of last year but I don't get the impression that any of them except for Brody King and PCO have really been major focuses.

But honestly I think the biggest killer was that Madison Square Garden show. That was their chance to reignite fan interest and they failed at nearly every turn, and failed in a way that I think basically shut the door on what their reputation used to be and instead screamed of the type of desperation that people used to drag TNA for all the time. "You know what NJPW fans are going to love? 30 minutes of Bully Ray! Hey, Tenille Dashwood's on the way out, but guess who's replacing her? 2008's hottest women's heel act still doing that act to diminishing returns, that's who! Enjoy that tag match? Cool, prepare to completely forget about how good that match was because here's a worked shoot angle with fucking Enzo and Cass for some reason! And stay tuned for our main event featuring a lifer whose act has gotten stale, a guy who we can't give the belt to because he's counting the days until he can bail and join his friends in AEW, and Matt Taven of all people!" The story about Bully Ray pulling that fan aside during a Pacific Northwest tour and chiding him for heckling Velvet Sky didn't help but pretty much every wrestling company has embarrassing stories like that.

They just... don't have anything beyond access to NJPW and CMLL guys. There's no buzz about anything going on there.

Mr. Nerfect 08-26-2019 09:13 PM

ROH seems like dead meat, but if I had to suggest someone for champion, it would probably be PCO. People seem to enjoy his comeback story. Work out who you are going to bank around next — maybe someone on loan from New Japan — then have them kill PCO and run with the belt while you build a babyface. I dunno.

Simple Fan 08-27-2019 12:52 AM

They have Dalton Castle and have yet to capitalize off it. Feel like Billy Corgan or Anthem should buy them up while business is bad for them. Eventually they'll figure it out though.

Emperor Smeat 08-27-2019 05:49 PM

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Total Bellas: 1,055 days <br><br>WCW Thunder: 1,168 days<br><br>It's been renewed for another season, so it will pass it</p>&mdash; Rose Lavelle Stan Account (@jake_nazar) <a href="https://twitter.com/jake_nazar/status/1166128971508940800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Nicky Fives 08-28-2019 01:40 AM

Those 2 posts hurt my brain....

Emperor Smeat 08-28-2019 07:22 PM

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GD 08-28-2019 07:30 PM

That was amusing :lol:

GD 08-28-2019 08:10 PM

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Jordan 08-29-2019 08:50 AM

Boys, Ken fucking Shamrock is gonna rassle in the Impact Zone again. I am so pumped.

Evil Vito 08-29-2019 12:51 PM

WWE have reached out to Enzo and Cass about returning to NXT

Mr. Nerfect 08-29-2019 01:19 PM

Ew

ClockShot 08-29-2019 01:20 PM

:rofl:

I needed that at work just now.

#1-norm-fan 08-29-2019 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5280262)
WWE have reached out to Enzo and Cass about returning to NXT

LOL PLEASE let this happen!

Sepholio 08-29-2019 04:31 PM

That has got to be fake news.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-29-2019 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5280284)
That has got to be fake news.

The Big Tuna (Meltz) says it is.

LibSuperstar 08-29-2019 04:59 PM

Sean Ross Sapp reported it too and he's pretty reliable so idk.

Emperor Smeat 08-29-2019 05:29 PM

True or not, makes zero sense to bring those two back considering the stories of how much they were despised backstage.

Then again WWE has made some really boneheaded decisions within the past 1-2 years so I wouldn't be surprised if they actually do it at some point.

GD 08-29-2019 05:52 PM

From what I've read, Cass has made a lot of progress in recent times. Not against the WWE giving them a second chance.


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