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xrodmuc316 04-20-2021 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5447347)
Charlotte's big two week return has wrapped up so she can go film Walking Tall


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING per <a href="https://twitter.com/ScrapDaddyAP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ScrapDaddyAP</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RawTalk?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RawTalk</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/MsCharlotteWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MsCharlotteWWE</a> is being suspended indefinitely and fined $100K following her actions at the conclusion of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a>. <a href="https://t.co/tnaQReflDR">pic.twitter.com/tnaQReflDR</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1384345815485923334?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good, there is literally nothing interesting about her character. Even with Cena there was the possibility that he might turn heel of at least be Thuganomics Cena. Charlotte has already gone face/heel/face/heel/face/heel. Hopefully she leaves for good.

Emperor Smeat 04-20-2021 06:57 PM

According to the Observer, WWE got hit with another COVID outbreak and this week's RAW also got affected with missing talent due to those reasons.

Unlike previous outbreaks, its currently not known how many people tested positive or who were affected because of WWE's stronger efforts against leaks.

WWE getting hit with another COVID outbreak right after doing a Mania in front of a live crowd isn't a good sign at all.

slik 04-21-2021 11:25 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ronda Rousey has announced via YouTube that she’s four months pregnant, and expecting her first child with Travis Browne in September!</p>&mdash; Gary Cassidy (@WrestlingGary) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingGary/status/1384884816945061889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 04-21-2021 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5447347)
Charlotte's big two week return has wrapped up so she can go film Walking Tall


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING per <a href="https://twitter.com/ScrapDaddyAP?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ScrapDaddyAP</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RawTalk?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RawTalk</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/MsCharlotteWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MsCharlotteWWE</a> is being suspended indefinitely and fined $100K following her actions at the conclusion of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWERaw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWERaw</a>. <a href="https://t.co/tnaQReflDR">pic.twitter.com/tnaQReflDR</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1384345815485923334?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 20, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

According to TalkSport's Alex McCarthy, dental work and not filming commitments is the reason for her storyline suspension. McCarthy also reported that her time away won't be that long.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComicBook.com
According to Alex McCarthy of TalkSport (via the Wrestling Daily show), the suspension storyline was written so that Flair could get some "dental work" completed. She is not expected to be off television for long.


Evil Vito 04-21-2021 06:00 PM

Dental plan!
Charlotte needs braces!
Dental plan!
Charlotte needs braces!
Dental plan!
Charlotte needs braces!

Emperor Smeat 04-21-2021 06:20 PM

According to Triple H, WWE's war with AEW via their NXT brand was like Chris Jericho's 1st WWF title win.

It was all imaginary and never actually happened.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer
In a recent interview, Triple H talked about NXT’s move to Tuesdays and their competition with AEW.

On Cheap Heat with Peter Rosenberg, Triple H explained that they weren’t just in competition with AEW, they were in competition with everyone and everything.

“The promotional opportunity for us is much better on a Tuesday," he explained. "And also then not having to have a narrative where it’s just constantly about an imaginary war, or this imaginary battle. And, you know, people can say what they want, but the truth of the matter is you compete against everything. If you are creating a television product or content-- that is the world we live in is content not television, not internet. It’s everything. So you’re constantly competing for eyeballs and time against everything under the sun, including sleep and time to do other things, and video games, and Tik Tok and everything else that’s out there.”

He's also been gradually been developing a similar view towards wrestling like Vince in the sense of not viewing WWE as an actual wrestling company. Only difference is instead of being a "sports entertainment" company whenever Vince would discuss wrestling, its now being a "content producing" company whenever Triple H and others in WWE would discuss wrestling in recent times.

drave 04-22-2021 08:30 AM

Pretty buzzwords for his new besties at NBC.

drave 04-22-2021 08:31 AM

I wonder..... you think WWE 10 years from now will still be "wrestling" on Monday and Friday?


I know it has often drawn comparison to "soap operas", but like..... can you see it going MORE that direction and even less and less what happens "between the bells".

Emperor Smeat 04-22-2021 03:11 PM

Yeah I could see WWE move into a harder "soap opera" direction since I doubt WWE is going to stop with their focus on hiring soap opera and film writers for Creative unless they were put into another Attitude Era-like situation where a strong rival forces them to drastically change direction.

Seeing as how a lot of matches on WWE's weekly shows barely matter these days, I could see that become even less of a focus in the future in favor of non-ring stuff. Like that episode of South Park that parodied WWE and wrestling on how it could be in the future.

Emperor Smeat 04-22-2021 03:35 PM

Apparently the Women's Tag Team Turmoil being a mess at Mania 37 is sort of Natalya's fault.

WWE didn't originally plan for that match to happen at Mania but she pushed for more women to be on the show which resulted in that mess of a match being booked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeelByNature.com
According to Fightful Select, Natalya pushed hard for the tag team turmoil match to be added to the WrestleMania card, which allowed more women to be on the show.

Prior to WrestleMania, WWE made the go-home show of SmackDown ‘WrestleMania edition’, which featured the Andre The Giant Memorial Battle Royal and a SmackDown Tag Team Championships match. Per Fightful, a Women’s Tag Team Titles number one contender’s match was originally planned for this show, with the winners going on to face the champions at WrestleMania.


Volare 04-22-2021 03:41 PM

Rut ro.

erickman 04-22-2021 03:43 PM

well good for her she got more wrestlers on mania rather then smackdown

Fignuts 04-22-2021 03:56 PM

Honestly, given the people involved, it was going to be shit either way.

So props to her for getting her coworkers a nice payday.

erickman 04-22-2021 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5448315)
Honestly, given the people involved, it was going to be shit either way.

So props to her for getting her coworkers a nice payday.

i wonder do they still get paid extra for working mania. if so that is why nat is so loved by the other women wrestlers she looks out for them.

Lock Jaw 04-22-2021 04:24 PM

I had no beef with the tornado match, and even enjoyed the women's tag title match more than a lot of other matches on the card (Owens/Zayn, Rollins/Cesaro)

Emperor Smeat 04-22-2021 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5448315)
Honestly, given the people involved, it was going to be shit either way.

So props to her for getting her coworkers a nice payday.

Yeah quality-wise, it was still going to be an issue but doing it in a ThunderDome setting instead of live PPV setting could have potentially improved the match's serious problems with the lack of flow and time given to it.

The mini-matches barely getting any real time to work with hurt whatever chance that match could have had to not be a big dud at Mania.

On the bright side, it wasn't the worst match at Mania since Orton vs. Fiend took that prize.

slik 04-22-2021 05:21 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You have my phone number. It would take you 30 seconds to ask as opposed to giving straight crap to your listeners. Grow up.<br><br>For you, of all people, to comment on a woman’s looks...<br><br>Do you have any shame, decency or professionalism left at all?<br><br>Find a mirror. Look hard Dave.</p>&mdash; Charlotte Flair (@MsCharlotteWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/MsCharlotteWWE/status/1385331181231562752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

erickman 04-22-2021 05:23 PM

yeah that fiend orton match should have been on smackdown, an put the smackdown tag match on mania

drave 04-23-2021 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5448340)
You have my phone number. It would take you 30 seconds to ask as opposed to giving straight crap to your listeners. Grow up.

For you, of all people, to comment on a woman’s looks...

Do you have any shame, decency or professionalism left at all?

Find a mirror. Look hard Dave.
— Charlotte Flair (@MsCharlotteWWE) April 22, 2021
<script async="" src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


I dunno what he said, but she comes back looking very different every time. Someone should post a collage or some shit.

drave 04-23-2021 07:53 AM

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...0&h=800&crop=1

Evil Vito 04-23-2021 09:47 AM

Watching some of WWE's "Most Wanted Treasures". Light hearted fun, with Foley and Triple H being pretty affable.

With the collectors they have to visit though, it's astonishing when you see people who are fanatic and obsessive enough about wrestling to fill rooms in their house with ring-worn gear, old VHS types, action figures, and every bit of memorabilia imaginable, yet never expanded their boundaries beyond the WWE of the past 30-40 years. It really highlights that there's a large part of the American fanbase to whom the WWE is wrestling and there was never anything else.

drave 04-23-2021 09:53 AM

I think its that WWE has been THE only notable, recognizable fed for so long. Practically nothing else exists. This is especially true for anyone who is a fan AFTER WcW was bought out.

#1-norm-fan 04-23-2021 10:13 AM

I was just thinking about that the other day. You’d think newer fans who became a fan post-WCW would be MORE likely to seek out other wrestling because the idea is so foreign to them that there’d be a fascination. Whereas the older fans have seen other wrestling companies become big and the novelty would be gone.

Bad News Gertner 04-23-2021 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5448533)
Watching some of WWE's "Most Wanted Treasures". Light hearted fun, with Foley and Triple H being pretty affable.

With the collectors they have to visit though, it's astonishing when you see people who are fanatic and obsessive enough about wrestling to fill rooms in their house with ring-worn gear, old VHS types, action figures, and every bit of memorabilia imaginable, yet never expanded their boundaries beyond the WWE of the past 30-40 years. It really highlights that there's a large part of the American fanbase to whom the WWE is wrestling and there was never anything else.

It's been like that for 30 years. The WWF was known for having fans that only care about WWF and some like myself who weren't even aware that WCW existed until I had been watching wrestling for 7-8 years. I started watching in 87 and had no idea who Ric Flair was when he came in and I'm far from the only one. It really depends where you grew up. I only watch old stuff from various territories but my large collection of footage is 100% WWF. It's what I grew up in.

Emperor Smeat 04-23-2021 06:26 PM

Based on WWE's investor's meeting from yesterday, WWE currently doesn't think NHL will be sticking with NBC once their current tv contract expires but they also think NXT will be staying on Tuesdays on USA Network regardless since they claim NXT's move had nothing to do with the NHL situation.

ESPN signed the first of two deals the NHL is offering but NBC is currently up against FOX for that second deal.

Bad News Gertner 04-24-2021 10:45 PM

Lol oh shit. Eugene also brought up serial harassment allegations in a reply

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This woman, who seems to have had some type of past relationship with Mark Carrano, is *unloading* on him today. Good lord. <a href="https://t.co/HoJbvEiW3o">pic.twitter.com/HoJbvEiW3o</a></p>&mdash; Danny (@dajosc11) <a href="https://twitter.com/dajosc11/status/1385639548491812864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey Pinky, where does he store his sexual assault allegations?</p>&mdash; Eugene Nick Dinsmore (@UGeneDinsmore) <a href="https://twitter.com/UGeneDinsmore/status/1386057802158911489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

drave 04-25-2021 10:05 AM

she replied for him to check his FB DM's to see where everything is stored.




Be she sends n00dz

Volare 04-25-2021 03:40 PM

This is all amazing shit.

Emperor Smeat 04-25-2021 05:02 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fun Fact: The length of Shida vs Conti this week (12:17) is more than the amount of women's wrestling for the entire month of April on Smackdown (10:30)</p>&mdash; �� (@Reekkkk23) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reekkkk23/status/1386123692883730435?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

All except one match on Smackdown this month has involved some combo between Natty, Tamina, Shayna Baszler, & Nia Jax.

Evil Vito 04-28-2021 11:25 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you were at the WWE PC this evening and wondered why Drake Wuertz looked like he had been crying, that's because he Zoomed into a Seminole County Board of County Commissioners meeting about mask mandates to spread the &quot;child sex traffickers love COVID masks&quot; conspiracy theory. <a href="https://t.co/gaIXFXa9QQ">pic.twitter.com/gaIXFXa9QQ</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspanhausen (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1387259525040943104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Are they going to finally fucking fire this guy? Jesus.

slik 04-28-2021 11:43 AM

I know he got demoted earlier this year from his position as head ref of NXT but I didn't know he also got suspended


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/3lCt4R0y4Q">https://t.co/3lCt4R0y4Q</a></p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1387420618543484929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 04-28-2021 01:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pleased to announce the winner of our Cultaholic face mask giveaway is <a href="https://twitter.com/DrakeWuertz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DrakeWuertz</a>! Please DM me to claim your prize! ������ <a href="https://t.co/GkTEDArfRo">pic.twitter.com/GkTEDArfRo</a></p>&mdash; Adam Pacitti (@adampacitti) <a href="https://twitter.com/adampacitti/status/1387445015878713349?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Evil Vito 04-28-2021 03:49 PM

Odd that Drake is so good at identifying pedophile sex traffickers but hasn't been able to weed out Velveteen Dream yet.

Emperor Smeat 04-28-2021 05:22 PM

According to PWI, Jason Jordan recently received a promotion in WWE as their new lead backstage producer going forward.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWI
As PWInsider.com reported last week, WWE has made sweeping changes to a number of departments as part of WWE President Nick Khan's re-tooling of the company on the corporate end.

With the departure of Mark Carrano, we reported last week that John Cone's exit from Talent Relations had been rescinded. PWInsider.com has since confirmed that Cone is now second in command to John Laurinaitis in that department, a bump up in responsibility from his previous role as Manager of Talent Relations. We are also told that at least 1-2 others have been added to that department.

With John Laurinaitis moving into overseeing Talent Relations, there were also changes within the ranks of WWE Producers. Jason Jordan has been given a new role and larger responsibilities within the company, taking over Laurinaitis' former role as Lead Producer, overseeing all the others at TV tapings.

PWInsider.com is also told that Adam Pearce has moved up within the company over the last several weeks and we are working to confirm his new role.


Emperor Smeat 04-28-2021 06:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickie James said A LOT. <br><br>-Vince calling her after Heftygate<br>-Pitching All Women's Brand<br>-Pitching shows for the Network<br>-Coaching stint at NXT<br>-Ageism<br>-Person who made her feel like shit is still there<br>-A LOT!<a href="https://t.co/ThW3LnD9JD">https://t.co/ThW3LnD9JD</a></p>&mdash; ‘Point God’ Jeremy Lambert (@jeremylambert88) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeremylambert88/status/1387528535703703562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickie tried to pitch an all female show but.. <a href="https://t.co/mLIYs5zipv">pic.twitter.com/mLIYs5zipv</a></p>&mdash; �� (@k2mella) <a href="https://twitter.com/k2mella/status/1387515548481818631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

erickman 04-28-2021 06:58 PM

who would figure mickie would be the most bitter one of the releases.

Bad News Gertner 04-28-2021 07:19 PM

Whoever said that isn't wrong. Nobody would watch am all women's show. Nobody. This isn't Joshi. Totally different animal.

I've used this analogy before. Men's wrestling is Coke. Women's is Diet Coke.

Both are sodas. But if I'm gonna have a soda, I'm gonna have a Coke because it's better. Now there are some people who prefer Diet Coke, but they are in the extreme minority. If I'm gonna have or watch something, I want to watch the best.

This applies to all Women's sports

Emperor Smeat 04-28-2021 07:58 PM

If I remember correctly, a big factor for Evolution being a dud in terms of being a money maker was due to WWE picking a weak venue for it and the piss poor job WWE did hyping up the show until very late.

They legit thought Trish vs. Alexa Bliss as the headliner would be enough alone to sell the PPV and it wasn't until they changed it to Ronda headlining that ticket sales and interest started to really spike. By then it was too late to generate enough momentum to make the show a big money maker.

Plus they were still dealing with the backlash from their Saudi deal and women not allowed on those shows so Evolution also felt a bit more like just a PR move than them being actually genuine with an all-women's show.

Had they been serious with Evolution's hype and build, it could have potentially acted as the spark for an all-women's brand afterwards like what ECW One Night Stand did for WWE's ECW brand.

Lock Jaw 04-28-2021 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5449645)
Whoever said that isn't wrong. Nobody would watch am all women's show. Nobody.

I'd watch an all women's show.

Bad News Gertner 04-28-2021 08:50 PM

And there's a few people who preferDiet Coke over regular Coke

You say that now, but wait after Lacey Evans vs Tamina happens 3 weeks in a row

Bad News Gertner 04-28-2021 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5449673)
If I remember correctly, a big factor for Evolution being a dud in terms of being a money maker was due to WWE picking a weak venue for it and the piss poor job WWE did hyping up the show until very late.

They legit thought Trish vs. Alexa Bliss as the headliner would be enough alone to sell the PPV and it wasn't until they changed it to Ronda headlining that ticket sales and interest started to really spike. By then it was too late to generate enough momentum to make the show a big money maker.

Plus they were still dealing with the backlash from their Saudi deal and women not allowed on those shows so Evolution also felt a bit more like just a PR move than them being actually genuine with an all-women's show.

Had they been serious with Evolution's hype and build, it could have potentially acted as the spark for an all-women's brand afterwards like what ECW One Night Stand did for WWE's ECW brand.

It never would have worked. There's a good segment of wrestling fans that hate the whole "Women's Revolution "


Plus there isn't enough great female workers to carry a weekly show. The vast majority of Women's matches are terrible.

Lock Jaw 04-28-2021 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5449711)
And there's a few people who preferDiet Coke over regular Coke

You say that now, but wait after Lacey Evans vs Tamina happens 3 weeks in a row

Yeah, don't get me wrong.... I'd watch the show.... for a few months before my general feeling of "over wrestling" hits me and I stop caring. Kind of like how I watched AEW for a bit but then just stopped because "meh, wrestling".

Bad News Gertner 04-28-2021 09:52 PM

I get that

Emperor Smeat 04-28-2021 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5449717)
It never would have worked. There's a good segment of wrestling fans that hate the whole "Women's Revolution "


Plus there isn't enough great female workers to carry a weekly show. The vast majority of Women's matches are terrible.

It could work since the interest in women's wrestling in WWE has been growing over the years. It just can't be a major brand right off the start or else you risk too much meddling by Vince since that is what hurt WWE ECW and 205 Live early in their existences.

Talent-wise, WWE has way more than enough to make an all-women's weekly show work since one of NXT's main purposes is to train crops of women to be more serviceable in the ring than what WWE was offering before.

If WWE can't make a brand work with around 40-60 women on hand, then that's a failure of their shitty booking habits and not the talent themselves.

Fignuts 04-28-2021 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Gertner of TPWW (Post 5449645)
Whoever said that isn't wrong. Nobody would watch am all women's show. Nobody. This isn't Joshi. Totally different animal.

I've used this analogy before. Men's wrestling is Coke. Women's is Diet Coke.

Both are sodas. But if I'm gonna have a soda, I'm gonna have a Coke because it's better. Now there are some people who prefer Diet Coke, but they are in the extreme minority. If I'm gonna have or watch something, I want to watch the best.

This applies to all Women's sports

I dunno dude, I'd definitely watch women's volleyball over mens.

Fignuts 04-28-2021 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5449800)
It could work since the interest in women's wrestling in WWE has been growing over the years. It just can't be a major brand right off the start or else you risk too much meddling by Vince since that is what hurt WWE ECW and 205 Live early in their existences.

Talent-wise, WWE has way more than enough to make an all-women's weekly show work since one of NXT's main purposes is to train crops of women to be more serviceable in the ring than what WWE was offering before.

If WWE can't make a brand work with around 40-60 women on hand, then that's a failure of their shitty booking habits and not the talent themselves.

Interest has been growing because of the handful of women they have that can actually work. But it's just that. A handful. There's not enough quality in ring talent to make an all women's show watchable.

Emperor Smeat 04-28-2021 11:21 PM

For a 1 hour weekly show, you only really need like 3-4 matches top and a few segments to build up feuds and other talent.

If WWE legit can't make that work with their "greatest women's division" and an overall roster of women that's larger than most indies and all-women's promotions, then that's a mega failure on their part.

A lot of WWE's current struggles with their women's division is due to their shitty overall booking and their women's division being way too stretched out.

WWE's shown that the way they do it with 2 main roster divisions, a developmental brand that just hogs quality female talent, a smaller developmental talent that just stashes extra talent away, and a set of 2 main titles and 2 tag titles doesn't work.

Condense that into 1 main brand with 1 main title and 1 tag title with women still getting some time on the main brands so it doesn't turn into another forgotten 205 Live and it would work. Its just WWE is way too stupid to realize this to make it work.

Bad News Gertner 04-28-2021 11:30 PM

How many times can you do Bayley vs Sasha.

Emperor Smeat 04-28-2021 11:42 PM

As a singles match, only a handful of times per year at most.

You take a page out of WWE Network era NXT and/or Attitude Era on the mentality towards booking those matches so your not burning through those singles matches and feud interest way too quickly unlike what WWE main roster brands do these days for feuds.

Bad News Gertner 04-28-2021 11:50 PM

They've got maybe 6-7 who can go. It'll get old fast.
. It'd definitely do worse than NXT.

Emperor Smeat 04-29-2021 12:10 AM

They got more than that just in NXT alone (NXT & NXT UK) and enough on the main roster to fill out a healthy upper card and top division. Add in some serviceable to good talent and they have a fine lower and mid-card to work with for a women's only show.

On the main roster, it only looks very dire because they are stretched out over 2 brand and WWE barely gives a shit unless your name is Charlotte or are forced into a situation like what happened with Sasha's top star rise this past year once Charlotte, Becky, and Ronda were out.

Probably would do worse than NXT though for ratings at least early since it takes time to build up a stable core audience and use it as the basis for growth. Plus wash away any associated WWE main roster brands stink.

Volare 04-29-2021 11:52 AM

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erickman 04-29-2021 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5449837)
They got more than that just in NXT alone (NXT & NXT UK) and enough on the main roster to fill out a healthy upper card and top division. Add in some serviceable to good talent and they have a fine lower and mid-card to work with for a women's only show.

On the main roster, it only looks very dire because they are stretched out over 2 brand and WWE barely gives a shit unless your name is Charlotte or are forced into a situation like what happened with Sasha's top star rise this past year once Charlotte, Becky, and Ronda were out.

Probably would do worse than NXT though for ratings at least early since it takes time to build up a stable core audience and use it as the basis for growth. Plus wash away any associated WWE main roster brands stink.

thats why a month ago i was thinking they would do a womans show for peacock. they have far too many women for the shows they have.

Emperor Smeat 04-29-2021 07:51 PM

Add Xia Brookside to the growing pile of anti-COVID and conspiracy theory wackos currently in NXT and WWE's developmental system.

This time it wasn't entirely Drake Wuertz fault since her boyfriend instead seems to be the source of her recent hard turn.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WHAT THE HELL DO YOU EVEN THINK THAT MEANS?!?<br><br>Usually, I have some idea what they THINK they're saying, but nope, not this time.<br><br>We're getting to the point where if WWE doesn't take active steps to deradicalize the people who work for them, they're officially making it worse. <a href="https://t.co/mJyLA2GE3F">pic.twitter.com/mJyLA2GE3F</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspanhausen (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1387806274436403207?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bad News Gertner 04-29-2021 08:04 PM

Bix is having a field day with this

Side note: Bix and Kris Zellner are doing the episode I picked for next weeks "Between The Sheets" podcast. Paid my $25 through their Patreon for this

Fignuts 04-29-2021 09:02 PM

Someone tell cornette too. He'll have a fucking meltdown on his podcast.

XL 04-30-2021 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5450029)
Add Xia Li to the growing pile of anti-COVID and conspiracy theory wackos currently in NXT and WWE's developmental system.

This time it wasn't entirely Drake Wuertz fault since her boyfriend instead seems to be the source of her recent hard turn.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WHAT THE HELL DO YOU EVEN THINK THAT MEANS?!?<br><br>Usually, I have some idea what they THINK they're saying, but nope, not this time.<br><br>We're getting to the point where if WWE doesn't take active steps to deradicalize the people who work for them, they're officially making it worse. <a href="https://t.co/mJyLA2GE3F">pic.twitter.com/mJyLA2GE3F</a></p>&mdash; David Bixenspanhausen (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1387806274436403207?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Smeat with the FAKE NEWZ.

That’s NXT UK’s Xia Brookside, daughter of Robbie Brookside, not Xia Li.

Emperor Smeat 04-30-2021 08:35 AM

My bad, somehow managed to screw up the two Xia's.

That's what I get for not actually reading the name and having a bunch of other sheets news and NFL Draft stuff tabs opened at the same time.

Bad News Gertner 04-30-2021 10:25 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Say some Hardy Boy leaves the New Brood and is dissin' your fly girl. Ya just give 'em one of these ������ <a href="https://t.co/uPrJCLlhPp">pic.twitter.com/uPrJCLlhPp</a></p>&mdash; Wrestling Referees are Wizards (@refsaswizards) <a href="https://twitter.com/refsaswizards/status/1387926089507430403?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

drave 04-30-2021 11:10 AM

god damnit - now i gotta listen to the whole theme

Lock Jaw 04-30-2021 11:56 AM

One of the best themes ever

Emperor Smeat 04-30-2021 03:30 PM

According to the Observer Newsletter, WWE is currently in talks with MLW regarding the potential of a working partnership between the two.

Part of the reason is due to WWE being upset over their bad rep and perception of them not liking to work with other companies and the other is due to them needing a place for their lesser experienced developmental talent to work since EVOLE is gone and NXT is way too stuffed with talent with not enough tv time to split around.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer Newsletter
We’ll see if this goes somewhere, but WWE doesn’t like the rep that it doesn’t work with anyone in the modern wrestling world. They are in talks with MLW and it’s along the lines of the old Evolve deal or to a degree the 90s ECW deal. The idea is to get some of the developmental guys who aren’t working on NXT television some work. There is also the idea of creating their own Evolve-like group as a weekly streaming show, but this would allow the guys to work on actual television and get more exposure than on Peacock and also seem like they are changing and modernizing. The idea is also to alleviate the frustration of so many guys on the roster who sign and then basically are never used, especially now with no NXT house shows (although that will likely be changing soon). The idea is people see AEW having partnerships with New Japan, Impact and AAA and they want to make it look like WWE is not set in its old ways and uncooperative in he real world. Whether this comes to fruition is a different story but the mentality right now is there to work with other people. Then again, that was also the mentality in the U.K. and Germany and that didn’t turn out well. But this is a totally new WWE under Nick Khan


xrodmuc316 04-30-2021 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5450226)
According to the Observer Newsletter, WWE is currently in talks with MLW regarding the potential of a working partnership between the two.

Part of the reason is due to WWE being upset over their bad rep and perception of them not liking to work with other companies and the other is due to them needing a place for their lesser experienced developmental talent to work since EVOLE is gone and NXT is way too stuffed with talent with not enough tv time to split around.

Lol come on.

"The idea is people see AEW having partnerships with New Japan, Impact and AAA and they want to make it look like WWE is not set in its old ways and uncooperative in he real world. Whether this comes to fruition is a different story but the mentality right now is there to work with other people."

Translation - "WWE might work with other companies, but then again, they might not, that will be $11.99."

Seriously, how is this bullshit news???

Emperor Smeat 04-30-2021 07:58 PM

Did you not read the first part where it says WWE is in talks with MLW over the potential of a working partnership.

The talks must be in the very early stage since MLW's Court Bauer hasn't done any cryptic tweets of this happening beforehand like he does with almost everything.

Also this seems to be a potential legit partnership and not the poison pill type like with EVOLVE and PROGRESS or WWE's idea of a partnership in Japan being them just buying out companies.

xrodmuc316 04-30-2021 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5450278)
Did you not read the first part where it says WWE is in talks with MLW over the potential of a working partnership.

The talks must be in the very early stage since MLW's Court Bauer hasn't done any cryptic tweets of this happening beforehand like he does with almost everything.

Also this seems to be a potential legit partnership and not the poison pill type like with EVOLVE and PROGRESS or WWE's idea of a partnership in Japan being them just buying out companies.

I did, just hate Observers way of reporting. They take a piece of news like working with MLW, spin it in a way that promotes how great AEW is and WWE isnt, speculate something in a way that is a coin flip, and hedge their bets as "well it could happen, or it could not happen".

Let me try, I heard on next week's Raw that Vince McMahon is going to take a shit right in the middle of the ring on live TV. I am also hearing that he might not really do that. Guess we will find out Monday!

Emperor Smeat 04-30-2021 08:27 PM

Seeing as WWE has been notorious for a long time about changing their minds constantly, don't see how that's an issue of Meltzer pointing out this potential partnership might not even happen.

Same for him bringing up their main rival having a big advantage over them when it comes to AEW being a lot more open to partnerships and the buzz it keeps generating for the company compared to WWE and their long perception of being very closed minded when it comes to working with others.

screech 04-30-2021 09:36 PM

How wacky would it be if every promotion shared talent? I don't know how it could realistically work, but it would be crazy to turn on any show and potentially see any rassler.

xrodmuc316 05-01-2021 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5450283)
Seeing as WWE has been notorious for a long time about changing their minds constantly, don't see how that's an issue of Meltzer pointing out this potential partnership might not even happening.

Same for him bringing up their main rival having a big advantage over them when it comes to AEW being a lot more open to partnerships and the buzz it keeps generating for the company compared to WWE and their long perception of being very closed minded when it comes to working with others.

Right, but if he doesn't know then he doesn't know. Why report a hypothetical scenario that may or may not happen in that manner?

If they were taking a guess, don't hedge. Either wait until his guess is right, or admit he guessed wrong. His "plans change" bullshit is just that, it's bullshit. He has created a system where he can guess whatever he wants, then instead of saying he guessed wrong, he plays it off like he was right but whoever changed their minds.

Vince McMahon really was going to take a shit in the middle of the ring Monday live on Raw, but then he changed his mind at the last minute, but it WAS going to happen, so I am actually right.

It is abhorrent reporting.

Emperor Smeat 05-01-2021 01:42 AM

Going to assume you don't follow any other notable sheets places since they all do the same thing as him when it comes to speculating on certain news.

PWI's Mike Johnson is just as respected as Meltzer is as a notable sheets reporter and he speculates a lot as well for certain news topics.

Also that "plans change" bullshit narrative you claim he always peddles would have more weight if it wasn't for Fightful constantly reporting on the abrupt changes WWE makes to their plans all the time.

Sepholio 05-01-2021 01:43 AM

So, uh, like....whatever happened to Edge and stuff? Have they even mentioned him at all since WM other than recaps of the match?

Emperor Smeat 05-01-2021 02:24 AM

Either he got hurt at Mania and WWE was keeping hush about it like with Styles or Omos or WWE didn't have any actual plans for him post-Mania.

They've mentioned him a few times in promos but that's basically been it for his presence on the Blue Brand since Mania.

Felt it was a mistake having him win the Rumble and even more now that WWE might not have had any real plans for him post-Mania.

Emperor Smeat 05-01-2021 03:03 AM

According to PWI, MLW isn't currently in talks with WWE over a potential partnership deal.

Assuming PWI's report is true, would be another case of MLW owner Court Bauer being an actual BS artist when it comes to him leaking MLW stuff these days. Usually its PWI who gets baited the most for his antics that later end up being way different or not true but this time he managed to bait the Observer.

DaveWadding 05-01-2021 03:24 AM

I was hoping they'd loan Morrison, Ricochet, Swerve Scott, Santos Escobar and Taya to MLW for a hot minute....

Emperor Smeat 05-01-2021 03:54 AM

Yeah them showing up in MLW's Lucha Underground-like spin-off would be a nice nod to their past in LU. Especially if they brought back some of their old LU personas.

Someone on /wooo made a really good point of how a WWE-MLW partnership would be very beneficial for WWE since it would give them added exposure in the Hispanic market since MLW does well with them and as a potential better gateway into Mexico for NXT than just going straight in like they tried for NXT Japan.

erickman 05-01-2021 06:23 AM

that would mean konnan working with wwe again. i would have figured wwe would make a deal with sinclare to work with roh before mlw.

Emperor Smeat 05-02-2021 03:48 PM

PWI gave a small update regarding the rumored recent talks between WWE and MLW over a potential partnership that were debunked by them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWI
Q - Anything to the MLW-WWE rumor?

A - We are told by sources at WWE there is nothing to that and there are no current talks. That doesn't mean there weren't conversations in the past, but currently, the WWE side denies it.

Came from a recent Q&A article on their site.

Emperor Smeat 05-04-2021 01:37 AM

According to a former writer, Braun Strowman was originally planned to defeat Lesnar for the vacant Universal title at Crown Jewel 2018.

WWE's creative team even had the script for the following episode of RAW finished ahead of time with Braun as champ but both the plans and script got tossed after some last minute changes were made for Lesnar to win instead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Post Wrestling
Isaiah “Swerve” Scott was the latest guest on the ‘Say Less With Kaz, Lowkey and Rosy’ podcast. A conversation came up about finishes in matches changing on a dime. Former WWE writer Kazeem Famuyide shared that back in 2018, Braun Strowman was supposed to defeat Brock Lesnar for the vacant Universal Title at Crown Jewel in Saudi Arabia. The creative team had an entire Raw planned with Strowman as champion but Lesnar ended up winning the match and the following Raw had to be rewritten.

"There was one time where we all thought a match was going — this was — man, f*ck it, I’m not working there anymore. It was in Saudi [Crown Jewel 2018] and Braun [Strowman] was supposed to beat Brock [Lesnar]. This is right after Roman [Reigns] announced he had cancer, right? So, Brock and Braun was supposed to fight for the world title and we had a whole Monday Night Raw written with Braun Strowman as champion and then sike, Brock Lesnar wins and then as soon as Brock wins, we all had to go back into the office, rewrite the whole show and I just thought it was some sh*t where it’s just like oh, they’re just kind of keeping us on the D.L. [down low], whatever but I didn’t know they could change like [that]."


Emperor Smeat 05-04-2021 01:58 AM

According to Fightful Select, the Observer's report about WWE and MLW being in talks are actually true.

Also revealed that these talks are at the very early stage which is why Meltzer cautioned about it not being definitive that a partnership deal was going to be made.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fightful Select
There have been conflicting reports regarding the emerging details of MLW and WWE having discussions regarding talent sharing. Many in NXT were left in the dark about the situation and didn't even know until the rumor had emerged, but we can confirm Dave Meltzer's report that the preliminary conversations have happened, and the talks go "high up" in WWE. We're told the conversations go high up in both companies, but don't have any further details beyond that.


Volare 05-04-2021 08:43 AM

I wonder if Mandy double checks her posts....


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Emperor Smeat 05-05-2021 12:30 AM

According to Fightful, Daniel Bryan's contract with WWE expired after this past Friday's episode of Smackdown.

Evil Vito 05-05-2021 08:58 AM

Daniel Bryan is the master of renegotiation tactics, which is why he's started mentioning dream opponents outside of WWE recently. Done it before, will do it again. Hope he enjoys his increase in salary.

drave 05-05-2021 08:59 AM

would still be very cool to see him and Ray Fenix. Tag team or opponents, either would be great.

Evil Vito 05-05-2021 09:04 AM

Do I think Bryan will actually leave WWE? No.

Will that stop me from daydreaming about The Final Countdown hitting at the end of Double or Nothing? Also no.

Emperor Smeat 05-12-2021 04:54 PM

According to the Wrestling Observer Radio and Fightful Select, these are the locations currently being considered for this year's SummerSlam event:
  • Madison Square Garden in New York City, New York
  • Las Vegas, Nevada
  • Phoenix, Arizona
  • A location yet to be determined in Texas

Jordan 05-12-2021 06:09 PM

I hope they don't pick MSG so I don't feel pressured to go.

RaginRonic 05-13-2021 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5451005)
Do I think Bryan will actually leave WWE? No.

Will that stop me from daydreaming about The Final Countdown hitting at the end of Double or Nothing? Also no.

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You mean this? Though this one is a puzzle to be put together....XB

Emperor Smeat 05-13-2021 03:34 PM

According to Fightful, Zelina Vega is currently in the process of potentially returning to WWE.

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Originally Posted by Observer
Less than a year after being released, Zelina Vega and WWE are working toward her return.

Fightful first reported that Vega (Thea Trinidad-Budgen) was at the Performance Center Thursday doing filming for something and that "the working plan is for her to return to the company." Dave Meltzer confirmed the report.

The 30-year-old was released by WWE last November following issues regarding their policies about individual deals with third parties like Twitch where she has a popular, revenue generating channel. That release sparked interest from SAG-AFTRA after she tweeted about unionization, but nothing ever came of that interest.

In March, Meltzer reported that Trinidad had signed an undisclosed short-term deal that wouldn't allow her to work for another wrestling company.


ClockShot 05-13-2021 07:13 PM

Well, she either cut a deal with Vince to keep making extra cash on the side. Or she's getting more money altogether.

Bad News Gertner 05-13-2021 07:20 PM

Lol of course.

erickman 05-13-2021 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 5453002)
Well, she either cut a deal with Vince to keep making extra cash on the side. Or she's getting more money altogether.

yeah i think they cut a deal an if she is going to work with the rocks kid, all must be forgiving.

Emperor Smeat 05-13-2021 08:52 PM

Current rumor going around the net regarding Bray's recent absence from RAW hints at him currently suffering a bad bout of depression.

Supposedly the loss of his close friend Brodie Lee is still hitting him very hard all these months later.

Fignuts 05-13-2021 09:03 PM

I'm sure the direction they took his character the past year or so isn't helping either.

Emperor Smeat 05-14-2021 02:51 PM

WWE currently planning to resume touring in mid-July according to the Mat Men podcast and Wrestling Observer.

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Originally Posted by Observer
In this week's Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Dave Meltzer confirmed the news that was first reported by Mat Men's Andrew Zarian on Thursday that WWE is exploring a return to touring in a few months.

Zarian first said that Friday, July 16th's SmackDown would be the first such show with fans. He later specified the message he recieved was "fans back July 16-19" and wasn't sure if that meant a one-off stretch or not.

What is unknown is whether the first shows will be at the ThunderDome at the Yuengling Center in Tampa, Florida, or in another city completely. It's also unknown if house shows are still in the plan for the future and if so, how that schedule will change from past years.


Emperor Smeat 05-14-2021 07:44 PM

According to WrestlingInc, Sonya Deville's stalker was recently ruled incompetent to stand trial for the stalking and kidnapping charges against him related to last year's kidnapping attempt incident at Sonya's home.

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Originally Posted by WrestlingInc
As previously reported, Phillip A. Thomas had a competency hearing this week. Thomas is facing life in prison on multiple charges after attempting to kidnap Daria Berenato, a.k.a. Sonya Deville, at her home on August 16, 2020.

Wrestling Inc. has learned that Thomas has been found incompetent to stand trial. He is awaiting transfer to Florida State Hospital in Chattahoochee, Florida.

As noted, Deville had her temporary protection injunction against Thomas extended last week. The next protection hearing is October 7th at 9 a.m.

Thomas was charged with Aggravated Stalking, Armed Burglary of a Dwelling, Attempted Armed Kidnapping, and Criminal Mischief. Depositions for the case started in February.


Emperor Smeat 05-15-2021 07:24 PM

Seems Zelina Vega being open to a potential return to WWE might be due to the company recently weakening the ban put in place for their talents social media accounts and outside third party deals.

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Originally Posted by PWI
Despite big plans to represent their own talent to monetize third party bookings including sponsorships, film and TV roles, World Wrestling Entertainment has already shut down their Talent Management Group.

WWE launched plans for the division in November 2020, announcing, "WWE Talent Management Group will deliver best-in-class 360-degree support of Talent across all internal lines of business and key external partners, amplifying Talent brand value and maximizing monetization opportunities for Talent and WWE."

The company began staffing the division at that point.

PWInsider.com is told the decision to shutter the division was made just few weeks back and in all, the division only existed for four to five weeks.


erickman 05-15-2021 07:50 PM

guess vince did not make as much money as he thought he would

Emperor Smeat 05-15-2021 08:01 PM

Yeup and both him and WWE President Nick Khan completely overestimated WWE's talents level of interest to want to continue shilling products as if nothing had happened since they no longer were getting paid extra for it or were losing out on huge sums of money.

Like Asuka started to blur out products she uses or buys on her Youtube channel just to get around WWE's ban so it wouldn't affect her pay in any way.

xrodmuc316 05-15-2021 11:06 PM

I think we can all agree that was such a bad decision.

WWE might, and BIG might, but they might have gotten away with 10% of whatever extra income the wrestlers make being applied to their downside guarantees. If a wrestler has has a million downside guarantee, they can use their side ventures to make as much as possible, but WWE can count up to 100k off their downside.

It's still a real shitty practice, but a talent would rather lose 10% of their downside and still get to earn an extra day 500k on the side. 1.4 million is better than 1 million.

erickman 05-15-2021 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5453357)
I think we can all agree that was such a bad decision.

WWE might, and BIG might, but they might have gotten away with 10% of whatever extra income the wrestlers make being applied to their downside guarantees. If a wrestler has has a million downside guarantee, they can use their side ventures to make as much as possible, but WWE can count up to 100k off their downside.

It's still a real shitty practice, but a talent would rather lose 10% of their downside and still get to earn an extra day 500k on the side. 1.4 million is better than 1 million.

that's what i was about to say as promoter they can get 10% that's how they did indy bookings and signings in the past. vince got greedy

Evil Vito 05-20-2021 02:39 PM

WWE going back to crowds earlier than planned is said to be a Fox request/mandate.

Not really surprised though given that the other sports in Fox's portfolio are back to having fans so it'll just "look better" if they have a live audience too.


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