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According to the Observer, WWE got hit with another COVID outbreak and this week's RAW also got affected with missing talent due to those reasons.
Unlike previous outbreaks, its currently not known how many people tested positive or who were affected because of WWE's stronger efforts against leaks. WWE getting hit with another COVID outbreak right after doing a Mania in front of a live crowd isn't a good sign at all. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ronda Rousey has announced via YouTube that she’s four months pregnant, and expecting her first child with Travis Browne in September!</p>— Gary Cassidy (@WrestlingGary) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingGary/status/1384884816945061889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Dental plan!
Charlotte needs braces! Dental plan! Charlotte needs braces! Dental plan! Charlotte needs braces! |
According to Triple H, WWE's war with AEW via their NXT brand was like Chris Jericho's 1st WWF title win.
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Pretty buzzwords for his new besties at NBC.
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I wonder..... you think WWE 10 years from now will still be "wrestling" on Monday and Friday?
I know it has often drawn comparison to "soap operas", but like..... can you see it going MORE that direction and even less and less what happens "between the bells". |
Yeah I could see WWE move into a harder "soap opera" direction since I doubt WWE is going to stop with their focus on hiring soap opera and film writers for Creative unless they were put into another Attitude Era-like situation where a strong rival forces them to drastically change direction.
Seeing as how a lot of matches on WWE's weekly shows barely matter these days, I could see that become even less of a focus in the future in favor of non-ring stuff. Like that episode of South Park that parodied WWE and wrestling on how it could be in the future. |
Apparently the Women's Tag Team Turmoil being a mess at Mania 37 is sort of Natalya's fault.
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well good for her she got more wrestlers on mania rather then smackdown
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Honestly, given the people involved, it was going to be shit either way.
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I had no beef with the tornado match, and even enjoyed the women's tag title match more than a lot of other matches on the card (Owens/Zayn, Rollins/Cesaro)
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The mini-matches barely getting any real time to work with hurt whatever chance that match could have had to not be a big dud at Mania. On the bright side, it wasn't the worst match at Mania since Orton vs. Fiend took that prize. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You have my phone number. It would take you 30 seconds to ask as opposed to giving straight crap to your listeners. Grow up.<br><br>For you, of all people, to comment on a woman’s looks...<br><br>Do you have any shame, decency or professionalism left at all?<br><br>Find a mirror. Look hard Dave.</p>— Charlotte Flair (@MsCharlotteWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/MsCharlotteWWE/status/1385331181231562752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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yeah that fiend orton match should have been on smackdown, an put the smackdown tag match on mania
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I dunno what he said, but she comes back looking very different every time. Someone should post a collage or some shit. |
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Watching some of WWE's "Most Wanted Treasures". Light hearted fun, with Foley and Triple H being pretty affable.
With the collectors they have to visit though, it's astonishing when you see people who are fanatic and obsessive enough about wrestling to fill rooms in their house with ring-worn gear, old VHS types, action figures, and every bit of memorabilia imaginable, yet never expanded their boundaries beyond the WWE of the past 30-40 years. It really highlights that there's a large part of the American fanbase to whom the WWE is wrestling and there was never anything else. |
I think its that WWE has been THE only notable, recognizable fed for so long. Practically nothing else exists. This is especially true for anyone who is a fan AFTER WcW was bought out.
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I was just thinking about that the other day. You’d think newer fans who became a fan post-WCW would be MORE likely to seek out other wrestling because the idea is so foreign to them that there’d be a fascination. Whereas the older fans have seen other wrestling companies become big and the novelty would be gone.
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Based on WWE's investor's meeting from yesterday, WWE currently doesn't think NHL will be sticking with NBC once their current tv contract expires but they also think NXT will be staying on Tuesdays on USA Network regardless since they claim NXT's move had nothing to do with the NHL situation.
ESPN signed the first of two deals the NHL is offering but NBC is currently up against FOX for that second deal. |
Lol oh shit. Eugene also brought up serial harassment allegations in a reply
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This woman, who seems to have had some type of past relationship with Mark Carrano, is *unloading* on him today. Good lord. <a href="https://t.co/HoJbvEiW3o">pic.twitter.com/HoJbvEiW3o</a></p>— Danny (@dajosc11) <a href="https://twitter.com/dajosc11/status/1385639548491812864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey Pinky, where does he store his sexual assault allegations?</p>— Eugene Nick Dinsmore (@UGeneDinsmore) <a href="https://twitter.com/UGeneDinsmore/status/1386057802158911489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
she replied for him to check his FB DM's to see where everything is stored.
Be she sends n00dz |
This is all amazing shit.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fun Fact: The length of Shida vs Conti this week (12:17) is more than the amount of women's wrestling for the entire month of April on Smackdown (10:30)</p>— (@Reekkkk23) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reekkkk23/status/1386123692883730435?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
All except one match on Smackdown this month has involved some combo between Natty, Tamina, Shayna Baszler, & Nia Jax. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you were at the WWE PC this evening and wondered why Drake Wuertz looked like he had been crying, that's because he Zoomed into a Seminole County Board of County Commissioners meeting about mask mandates to spread the "child sex traffickers love COVID masks" conspiracy theory. <a href="https://t.co/gaIXFXa9QQ">pic.twitter.com/gaIXFXa9QQ</a></p>— David Bixenspanhausen (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1387259525040943104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Are they going to finally fucking fire this guy? Jesus. |
I know he got demoted earlier this year from his position as head ref of NXT but I didn't know he also got suspended
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/3lCt4R0y4Q">https://t.co/3lCt4R0y4Q</a></p>— Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1387420618543484929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pleased to announce the winner of our Cultaholic face mask giveaway is <a href="https://twitter.com/DrakeWuertz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@DrakeWuertz</a>! Please DM me to claim your prize! <a href="https://t.co/GkTEDArfRo">pic.twitter.com/GkTEDArfRo</a></p>— Adam Pacitti (@adampacitti) <a href="https://twitter.com/adampacitti/status/1387445015878713349?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Odd that Drake is so good at identifying pedophile sex traffickers but hasn't been able to weed out Velveteen Dream yet.
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According to PWI, Jason Jordan recently received a promotion in WWE as their new lead backstage producer going forward.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickie James said A LOT. <br><br>-Vince calling her after Heftygate<br>-Pitching All Women's Brand<br>-Pitching shows for the Network<br>-Coaching stint at NXT<br>-Ageism<br>-Person who made her feel like shit is still there<br>-A LOT!<a href="https://t.co/ThW3LnD9JD">https://t.co/ThW3LnD9JD</a></p>— ‘Point God’ Jeremy Lambert (@jeremylambert88) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeremylambert88/status/1387528535703703562?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Mickie tried to pitch an all female show but.. <a href="https://t.co/mLIYs5zipv">pic.twitter.com/mLIYs5zipv</a></p>— (@k2mella) <a href="https://twitter.com/k2mella/status/1387515548481818631?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
who would figure mickie would be the most bitter one of the releases.
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Whoever said that isn't wrong. Nobody would watch am all women's show. Nobody. This isn't Joshi. Totally different animal.
I've used this analogy before. Men's wrestling is Coke. Women's is Diet Coke. Both are sodas. But if I'm gonna have a soda, I'm gonna have a Coke because it's better. Now there are some people who prefer Diet Coke, but they are in the extreme minority. If I'm gonna have or watch something, I want to watch the best. This applies to all Women's sports |
If I remember correctly, a big factor for Evolution being a dud in terms of being a money maker was due to WWE picking a weak venue for it and the piss poor job WWE did hyping up the show until very late.
They legit thought Trish vs. Alexa Bliss as the headliner would be enough alone to sell the PPV and it wasn't until they changed it to Ronda headlining that ticket sales and interest started to really spike. By then it was too late to generate enough momentum to make the show a big money maker. Plus they were still dealing with the backlash from their Saudi deal and women not allowed on those shows so Evolution also felt a bit more like just a PR move than them being actually genuine with an all-women's show. Had they been serious with Evolution's hype and build, it could have potentially acted as the spark for an all-women's brand afterwards like what ECW One Night Stand did for WWE's ECW brand. |
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Talent-wise, WWE has way more than enough to make an all-women's weekly show work since one of NXT's main purposes is to train crops of women to be more serviceable in the ring than what WWE was offering before. If WWE can't make a brand work with around 40-60 women on hand, then that's a failure of their shitty booking habits and not the talent themselves. |
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For a 1 hour weekly show, you only really need like 3-4 matches top and a few segments to build up feuds and other talent.
If WWE legit can't make that work with their "greatest women's division" and an overall roster of women that's larger than most indies and all-women's promotions, then that's a mega failure on their part. A lot of WWE's current struggles with their women's division is due to their shitty overall booking and their women's division being way too stretched out. WWE's shown that the way they do it with 2 main roster divisions, a developmental brand that just hogs quality female talent, a smaller developmental talent that just stashes extra talent away, and a set of 2 main titles and 2 tag titles doesn't work. Condense that into 1 main brand with 1 main title and 1 tag title with women still getting some time on the main brands so it doesn't turn into another forgotten 205 Live and it would work. Its just WWE is way too stupid to realize this to make it work. |
How many times can you do Bayley vs Sasha.
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As a singles match, only a handful of times per year at most.
You take a page out of WWE Network era NXT and/or Attitude Era on the mentality towards booking those matches so your not burning through those singles matches and feud interest way too quickly unlike what WWE main roster brands do these days for feuds. |
They've got maybe 6-7 who can go. It'll get old fast.
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They got more than that just in NXT alone (NXT & NXT UK) and enough on the main roster to fill out a healthy upper card and top division. Add in some serviceable to good talent and they have a fine lower and mid-card to work with for a women's only show.
On the main roster, it only looks very dire because they are stretched out over 2 brand and WWE barely gives a shit unless your name is Charlotte or are forced into a situation like what happened with Sasha's top star rise this past year once Charlotte, Becky, and Ronda were out. Probably would do worse than NXT though for ratings at least early since it takes time to build up a stable core audience and use it as the basis for growth. Plus wash away any associated WWE main roster brands stink. |
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Add Xia Brookside to the growing pile of anti-COVID and conspiracy theory wackos currently in NXT and WWE's developmental system.
This time it wasn't entirely Drake Wuertz fault since her boyfriend instead seems to be the source of her recent hard turn. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WHAT THE HELL DO YOU EVEN THINK THAT MEANS?!?<br><br>Usually, I have some idea what they THINK they're saying, but nope, not this time.<br><br>We're getting to the point where if WWE doesn't take active steps to deradicalize the people who work for them, they're officially making it worse. <a href="https://t.co/mJyLA2GE3F">pic.twitter.com/mJyLA2GE3F</a></p>— David Bixenspanhausen (@davidbix) <a href="https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1387806274436403207?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Bix is having a field day with this
Side note: Bix and Kris Zellner are doing the episode I picked for next weeks "Between The Sheets" podcast. Paid my $25 through their Patreon for this |
Someone tell cornette too. He'll have a fucking meltdown on his podcast.
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That’s NXT UK’s Xia Brookside, daughter of Robbie Brookside, not Xia Li. |
My bad, somehow managed to screw up the two Xia's.
That's what I get for not actually reading the name and having a bunch of other sheets news and NFL Draft stuff tabs opened at the same time. |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Say some Hardy Boy leaves the New Brood and is dissin' your fly girl. Ya just give 'em one of these <a href="https://t.co/uPrJCLlhPp">pic.twitter.com/uPrJCLlhPp</a></p>— Wrestling Referees are Wizards (@refsaswizards) <a href="https://twitter.com/refsaswizards/status/1387926089507430403?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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god damnit - now i gotta listen to the whole theme
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One of the best themes ever
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According to the Observer Newsletter, WWE is currently in talks with MLW regarding the potential of a working partnership between the two.
Part of the reason is due to WWE being upset over their bad rep and perception of them not liking to work with other companies and the other is due to them needing a place for their lesser experienced developmental talent to work since EVOLE is gone and NXT is way too stuffed with talent with not enough tv time to split around. Quote:
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"The idea is people see AEW having partnerships with New Japan, Impact and AAA and they want to make it look like WWE is not set in its old ways and uncooperative in he real world. Whether this comes to fruition is a different story but the mentality right now is there to work with other people." Translation - "WWE might work with other companies, but then again, they might not, that will be $11.99." Seriously, how is this bullshit news??? |
Did you not read the first part where it says WWE is in talks with MLW over the potential of a working partnership.
The talks must be in the very early stage since MLW's Court Bauer hasn't done any cryptic tweets of this happening beforehand like he does with almost everything. Also this seems to be a potential legit partnership and not the poison pill type like with EVOLVE and PROGRESS or WWE's idea of a partnership in Japan being them just buying out companies. |
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Seeing as WWE has been notorious for a long time about changing their minds constantly, don't see how that's an issue of Meltzer pointing out this potential partnership might not even happen.
Same for him bringing up their main rival having a big advantage over them when it comes to AEW being a lot more open to partnerships and the buzz it keeps generating for the company compared to WWE and their long perception of being very closed minded when it comes to working with others. |
How wacky would it be if every promotion shared talent? I don't know how it could realistically work, but it would be crazy to turn on any show and potentially see any rassler.
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If they were taking a guess, don't hedge. Either wait until his guess is right, or admit he guessed wrong. His "plans change" bullshit is just that, it's bullshit. He has created a system where he can guess whatever he wants, then instead of saying he guessed wrong, he plays it off like he was right but whoever changed their minds. Vince McMahon really was going to take a shit in the middle of the ring Monday live on Raw, but then he changed his mind at the last minute, but it WAS going to happen, so I am actually right. It is abhorrent reporting. |
Going to assume you don't follow any other notable sheets places since they all do the same thing as him when it comes to speculating on certain news.
PWI's Mike Johnson is just as respected as Meltzer is as a notable sheets reporter and he speculates a lot as well for certain news topics. Also that "plans change" bullshit narrative you claim he always peddles would have more weight if it wasn't for Fightful constantly reporting on the abrupt changes WWE makes to their plans all the time. |
So, uh, like....whatever happened to Edge and stuff? Have they even mentioned him at all since WM other than recaps of the match?
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Either he got hurt at Mania and WWE was keeping hush about it like with Styles or Omos or WWE didn't have any actual plans for him post-Mania.
They've mentioned him a few times in promos but that's basically been it for his presence on the Blue Brand since Mania. Felt it was a mistake having him win the Rumble and even more now that WWE might not have had any real plans for him post-Mania. |
According to PWI, MLW isn't currently in talks with WWE over a potential partnership deal.
Assuming PWI's report is true, would be another case of MLW owner Court Bauer being an actual BS artist when it comes to him leaking MLW stuff these days. Usually its PWI who gets baited the most for his antics that later end up being way different or not true but this time he managed to bait the Observer. |
I was hoping they'd loan Morrison, Ricochet, Swerve Scott, Santos Escobar and Taya to MLW for a hot minute....
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Yeah them showing up in MLW's Lucha Underground-like spin-off would be a nice nod to their past in LU. Especially if they brought back some of their old LU personas.
Someone on /wooo made a really good point of how a WWE-MLW partnership would be very beneficial for WWE since it would give them added exposure in the Hispanic market since MLW does well with them and as a potential better gateway into Mexico for NXT than just going straight in like they tried for NXT Japan. |
that would mean konnan working with wwe again. i would have figured wwe would make a deal with sinclare to work with roh before mlw.
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PWI gave a small update regarding the rumored recent talks between WWE and MLW over a potential partnership that were debunked by them.
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According to a former writer, Braun Strowman was originally planned to defeat Lesnar for the vacant Universal title at Crown Jewel 2018.
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According to Fightful Select, the Observer's report about WWE and MLW being in talks are actually true.
Also revealed that these talks are at the very early stage which is why Meltzer cautioned about it not being definitive that a partnership deal was going to be made. Quote:
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I wonder if Mandy double checks her posts....
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According to Fightful, Daniel Bryan's contract with WWE expired after this past Friday's episode of Smackdown.
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Daniel Bryan is the master of renegotiation tactics, which is why he's started mentioning dream opponents outside of WWE recently. Done it before, will do it again. Hope he enjoys his increase in salary.
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would still be very cool to see him and Ray Fenix. Tag team or opponents, either would be great.
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Do I think Bryan will actually leave WWE? No.
Will that stop me from daydreaming about The Final Countdown hitting at the end of Double or Nothing? Also no. |
According to the Wrestling Observer Radio and Fightful Select, these are the locations currently being considered for this year's SummerSlam event:
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I hope they don't pick MSG so I don't feel pressured to go.
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You mean this? Though this one is a puzzle to be put together....XB |
According to Fightful, Zelina Vega is currently in the process of potentially returning to WWE.
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Well, she either cut a deal with Vince to keep making extra cash on the side. Or she's getting more money altogether.
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Lol of course.
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Current rumor going around the net regarding Bray's recent absence from RAW hints at him currently suffering a bad bout of depression.
Supposedly the loss of his close friend Brodie Lee is still hitting him very hard all these months later. |
I'm sure the direction they took his character the past year or so isn't helping either.
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WWE currently planning to resume touring in mid-July according to the Mat Men podcast and Wrestling Observer.
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According to WrestlingInc, Sonya Deville's stalker was recently ruled incompetent to stand trial for the stalking and kidnapping charges against him related to last year's kidnapping attempt incident at Sonya's home.
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Seems Zelina Vega being open to a potential return to WWE might be due to the company recently weakening the ban put in place for their talents social media accounts and outside third party deals.
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guess vince did not make as much money as he thought he would
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Yeup and both him and WWE President Nick Khan completely overestimated WWE's talents level of interest to want to continue shilling products as if nothing had happened since they no longer were getting paid extra for it or were losing out on huge sums of money.
Like Asuka started to blur out products she uses or buys on her Youtube channel just to get around WWE's ban so it wouldn't affect her pay in any way. |
I think we can all agree that was such a bad decision.
WWE might, and BIG might, but they might have gotten away with 10% of whatever extra income the wrestlers make being applied to their downside guarantees. If a wrestler has has a million downside guarantee, they can use their side ventures to make as much as possible, but WWE can count up to 100k off their downside. It's still a real shitty practice, but a talent would rather lose 10% of their downside and still get to earn an extra day 500k on the side. 1.4 million is better than 1 million. |
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WWE going back to crowds earlier than planned is said to be a Fox request/mandate.
Not really surprised though given that the other sports in Fox's portfolio are back to having fans so it'll just "look better" if they have a live audience too. |
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