Lock Jaw said the same thing.

So they're killing every woman that attempts to drive? I know something happened with some activists who worked towards getting the ban lifted but that's different than killing women who attempt to drive. I doesn't make sense because its not true.

I may have been mistaken as I thought I heard about women driving getting pulled over but can't find anything on it yet. You are correct that they've detained human rights activists who, among other things, were fighting for the ban on woman drivers to be lifted. Those activists are facing being beheaded/executed, which is not progress.

I get where you're coming from as far as whether or not you're concerned with what happens outside your personal bubble. That's fine. But you shouldn't argue an oppressive regime is making any progress when they're killing people after luring them into a trap or scheduling executions for people who fighting for human rights just because women can drive.

I'm sure the women get pulled over, they're still woman drivers after all.

If you really believe that then you have as little sense as Trump himself.

The one thing InfoWars had right that I will concede to is their/his slogan, "There's a war on for your mind"

Fuck Alex Jones, though.

How is this "It's cool to be hating and laughing at the President" thing not the same in both cases?

I assume you thought I meant THEY are the same?

Saudi Arabia: Women! You can all drive now!

Saudi Women: Great! Our nation is progressing!

*Drives car and gets pulled over*

Saudi Arabia: How dare you try to drive!

*Beheads woman*

Simple Fan: Well, at least they got to drive.

https://i.postimg.cc/4y0VTqGz/jc.png

Driving is over-rated.

North Californian

Fuck’s sake.

God damn it, I popped for that Cena pic

Wait, did the Saudi Police murder a woman for driving a car now? Is this something that happened?

I could've sworn I saw something that insinuated as much but didn't find anything when I actually bothered to search. Could've been a click bait article, but I can't recall.

Think that might have been more for being activists in general although don't think any were executed yet. Like shortly before the driving ban was going to be lifted, the Saudis did a crackdown on female activists and drivers.

WWE's propaganda videos for the Saudis at the Greatest Rumble did lead to one women shown driving in the video getting arrested sometime after the event.

Maybe that's what I saw and my brain remembers differently. Nonetheless, the whole idea of them making any semblance of progress is comical. They are not. If simple fan doesn't care, that's his right. Citing a propaganda video by the E isn't a good look tho.

Pretending that Saudi Arabia isn't a shit country is an American tradition:

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It is unquestionably a shit country

Noid would disagree.

Hunter-gatherer tribes are primitive. Fact.
Saudi Arabia is bad. Fact.

Noid: Their dictator is just dealing with American money to abuse human rights...

LOL

I'll admit that I'm essentially a simpleton when it comes to politics and world news. I'm not ignorant, however. A country as corrupt and oppressive as Saudi Arabia can I'm no way be anything other than a shit place to live.

Most normal people realize that. It's merely people who can't think for themselves that buy into ideas such as cultural relativism. America is objectively better than Saudi Arabia.

It is subjectively better. Is there anyone who thinks otherwise?

Yes that is how I read it. I apologize for my misunderstanding.

That said, I agree with your post 100% now that I realize what you meant.

Also, George W. is about 1000 times better than The Donald!

Yeah, we had the same thing here with Lech Kaczyński. Everyone'd hate him, laugh at him, it was just tiresome. Sure, he was a halfwit, but I was just tired of people bringing him up on every occasion.

And then he died in a plane crash.

A Saudi orchestrated plane crash I bet!

People like DTTS have to skewer arguments and set up straw-men because they don't have any substance. Saudi Arabia is a shit place and the regime there is fucked. I've said nothing to the contrary in this thread. Fuck him and I hope he gets shunned for the absolute filth coming out of his mouth.

I never have to set up straw men because idiots like you are always willing to build arguments from sawdust.

You think you're intelligent and educated, but in reality you're just checking boxes and aligning your vocabulary with the approved word bank. You're a sheep.

Says the guy who thinks that the only reason people care about the atrocities in Saudi Arabia is because of Trump. This shit has been going on for a lot longer than Trump's been President. It's such a flimsy point.

That's the fucking point, moron.

It's been going on "for a lot longer than Trump's been President" and you haven't given a shit.

Inconsistent and hypocritical.

:rant: Another thread you decided to hijack or try to turn the discussion to something completely else political wise because of your warped views on things.

Forget it, think you time on TPWW is at its end since I already know things are going to become even more abysmal here, especially in Casual, in a couple of weeks mainly because of your history.

Hey meatball, you're a good poster, but fuck off.

You're not THAT good.

Bullshit. Don't put your bullshit perspectives into my mouth. The first woman I ever dated moved here from Saudi Arabia. Fuck you for daring to project your twisted little biases onto other people. Go after the things that are actually being said.

I haven't ever had the need to talk about Saudi Arabia in the context of wrestling. Believe it or not, that's what I come here for. If I went into discussion or casual more maybe it would pop up? But it makes no sense to project not caring about something onto someone just because you ignorant ass hasn't been around for the conversations.

Kindly fuck you.

lol you just admitted you have the same bias that Saudi Arabia is a shit country.

You have lost your way, you little white hetero cisgender male. Now everyone knows you're alt-right.

Also you mentioned it in April and didn't seem to give a shit one way or another. :)

Go back and read my post. I say nothing of the sort. I think the regime in Saudi Arabia is shit, and I've always said that. That's not the same as saying all the people are shit or whatever it is you think. But that's besides the point anyway, because I didn't even say that. You're making stuff up.

And again you have to make up someone's opinions for them instead of dealing with whatever it is they actually do or say. I've never been pro this deal. I always thought it was an extremely sketchy arrangement given the political climate surrounding the country. "Didn't seem to give a shit one way or another" -- dude, there's no possible way to have that insight into someone's perspective. Again, you're making stuff up.

Shutting down the thread for the time being since it got derailed.

Edit: Finished the cleaning. Sorry for the delay.

Russian orchestrated plane crash!

I'd expect nothing less from a white supremacist.

You accuse me of what you do in this thread constantly. You and Smelly Meatball are so far up your asses you actually think you know what I think about shit, but in reality you're both so stupid and ignorant that you barely understand your own assertions.

Major cognitive dissonance on your side of the house over this. You guys are making it pretty clear that you can't even keep track of your own arguments, so maybe stop trying to re-write mine.

This is the thread where we laugh at people who are pretending to care about Saudi Arabian human rights violations.

SLIK! IT'S A FREE COUNTRY AND I SUPPORT YOU DOING YOUR THANG!

Lol, you're such a mess. You keep telling me what I think, hombre. I am describing the things you actually say.

ie: Your point about sociology professors claiming that all cultures are equal. I explained to you what that concept is called and how it is not applied like you said it was

VERSUS

You telling us that we only care because of Trump.

I said "Saudi Arabia is a shit place and the regime is fucked." It is. I'm not saying Saudi Arabians are shit people, or that their culture is bad. I'm talking about the regime and the oppressive effects it has on the people there. Now go ahead and try and twist that into something false you can actually respond to. Or make up that we don't care because of whatever fraction of our discourse you see on a wrestling forum like it represents the totality of our lives.

It's not only logically fallacious reasoning, but it's downright insulting to the intelligence of people on these boards. I'll give you one shot to make an actually intelligent point, and I'll ever set you up with some questions:

1. What evidence do you have that I, and let's keep this to me specifically, only care about this because of Trump?

2. Can you explain why you think the idea of cultural relativism and criticizing an oppressive regime are incongruent ideas?

3. Since we apparently don't know shit about what you think, would you clarify what you mean by "we have the same bias." What exactly is your bias? Because I don't think we mean the same thing.

US keeps on killing people and no one bats an eye but one journalist is killed by SA and everyone loses their minds. Many people are saying "Oh it was done on a foreign soil" bla bla. Now let me show you what an American did in my country in 2011 : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymon...Davis_incident

This guy alone killed 3 people and then got scot-free due to diplomatic immunity. Now where was the humanity when it happened? I know a lot of American diplomats do this in developing countries and then use diplomatic immunity. Isn't it abuse of power?

Do you even read your own sources? He did not get diplomatic immunity, was thrown in jail pending trial, and was only released when the families of the victims were paid several million dollars in blood money which is legal under Sharia Law.

This post was obviously a joke, come on.

How much white privilege are you going to use in one post, Noid?

You think because you once sexually assaulted a woman of Saudi Arabian descent, that you can get away with calling the country shit? Obviously you do, and obviously you're contributing to a culture of white supremacy. Your casual attack on the Saudi government is superbly hypocritical considering you live in America where minorities are routinely murdered by cops and Nazis.

The alt-right is not all right, Noid. You have a lot to answer for.

Noid is Australian I believe

Even WORSE

Everyone in Australia is a white supremacist. Ever see Romper Stomper with Russell Crowe? That's basically Noid, only not as attractive.

I wonder if Drew Mc will be added to Braun/Brock

Seems like he isn't doing anything else

How wrong can you be in one post?

1. Obviously no sexual assault. I'm not Guru Dave.

2. I never said she was of Saudi Arabian descent. She moved here from Saudi Arabia. She was of British descent. Again, your reading and comprehension skills expose your inability to truly be the Pit Barrel King.

3. No, I think because I read the news and developed informed opinions about tyrannical regimes I can confidently call a lot of the conditions in the country shit. I don't do it out of some notion that western life is automatically better. I've been to some lovely places all over that I'd happy call home -- they just aren't run by despots.

4. Your banal point about white supremacy is obviously a troll, but it's got no meat. Just like your BBQs. It's like you're calling a person against homophobia a gay-basher. Like, what part of the internet told you that would be effective? Have you been the victim of an ironic double-troll, where people tell you that really bothers people, but ultimately you just look like a right ass?

5. I'm not American.

6. Why is it hypocritical to be critical of both?

7. What evidence do you have that I am not hypocritical of both?

I realize I am feeding the troll by simply engaging with you, but it's quite amazing, because you are literally wrong about everything when you open your mouth. Like, not one correct thing comes out of you. It's actually marvelous. I kind of want you to keep going so that I can see if you can get it down to being flummoxed enough that every word that comes out of your mouth is incorrectly used.

White Supremacist is not a good look, Noid.

What is this post?

Social justice.

I mean, why is this guy comparing some random dude killing some other dudes abroad to a goverment killing their own citizen?

Because he majored in Liberal Arts.

Ooh! You literally only have the one move! This is great. :lol:

Because people thinks it makes them appear comprehensive and lofty to go "but did you think of this?" and not realize how little it has to do with the actual situation and people's perspectives. It's literally what Pit Barrel King did earlier when he said that the lefties only care about this because Trump is President. He thinks it's a smart point that makes him appear above it all, but it's not only inaccurate; it's not even in the right ballpark. They call people sheep because they think it makes them different and interesting. It's a nice, if deluded, narrative to maintain for yourself, if you are dumb enough to buy into it as truth.

But he also admitted to studying the liberal arts at college, and he called it "retarded," so I guess that's pretty much him admitting his educational level of attainment is "retarded."

You wrote that and thought to yourself, "This is really good". The Alt-Right has the lowest standards I've ever seen.

#WhiteHeteroCisGenderMaleSyndrome

Thread's closed for good since someone(s) didn't listen the last time about not derailing it into another pissing contest and personal attacks.

Fuck off Meatball.

Hey Noid, I found your essence in meme form.

https://i.imgur.com/T8i2abL.png

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fuck it, I'm done with this place if this is how its going to become from now on.

Also fuck you to whoever unlocked this thread again.

:lol:

Smeat has snapped! Time to see his badass submission skills.

I'm sad to hear this, but yeah, the scungery around this place is pretty fucking exhausting. I've needed a few breaks. I hope it's not the end of you here. :y:

I can't believe you drove him away with your Alt-Right bullshit. Fucking racist.

It wasnt me but i would have if i saw you deciding what we were allowed to discuss

Bye Felicia

By the way, the WWE should definitely have cancelled the event. Saudi Arabia is a terrible country.

We should probably just send Batista in to wipe them out old-school Konami Code style.

I say take all the money they throw at you

Besides best way to assimilate people is via media. Things like this will bring cultural change faster than any other method... well other than mass killings

Smeat,I have always been one of your biggest fans, but when have we ever locked a thread for going off topic?

Or deleted posts because they were "toxic"

The free market of ideas is a wasteland of feast or famine and having the big button shouldnt be the arbiter of who eats at the table of intellectual dispute

Deleting posts is NO GOOD.

He deleted half a page worth in this thread.

Undelete them, I would like to see the toxicity of our city

I did actually but he had triple a delete them so i cant now.

He said some pretty hurtful stuff and then deleted it afterward.

I will still leave if he asks me to though. Free will.

But what about the midterms?

I still don't understand what Meatball was talking about with that weird comment. He deleted it and my quote reply.

Like, apparently I have a history of doing stuff after midterm elections? That was baffling.

I think it's interesting that people who don't know anything about my politics imagine them to be "warped" and "controversial". I have very few controversial political positions and am pretty consistently on the "right side" of most issues thanks to my stellar moral code.

Gays? Love 'em.
Trans? Wanna help 'em.
Drag Queens? Love 'em.
War? Bad.
Rape? Kill the rapist!
Drugs? Legalize 'em.
Racism? Dumb and evil.
Sexism? Dumb and evil.

You'd really have to try really hard to stretch any of my political views to be too far outside the mainstream or morally questionable. I'm a fuckin' paragon of virtue I tell you.

Excuse me, what the fuck?

Pretty much this.

Noid thinks you are creepy.

Noid is right about something at least.

Not surprised Noid is attacking a POC.

His vile views have no place in Wrestling Forum.

I will publicly apologize for that. It was a jab, but it was in poor taste.

Accusing someone of sexual assault is a jab? Don't want to see Noids Haymaker.

Eh, the free speech thing is a muddled mess sometimes. I don't mind arguing back and forth with people off-topic, but there being rules on a forum is something I can understand. If a mod chooses to delete my posts or whatever, so be it. Some discussions we are done with as people -- we have the empirical evidence and some people ignoring it don't really deserve the honor of genuine discussion.

I get why Smeat is upset by this. It's fucking gross and it's a waste of time talking about why. But I don't mind letting Swiss' bullshit speak for itself either.

No, you probably don't.

All brown people are rapists.

Too soon?

Jesus fucking Christ, I don't want to put up with this bullshit. We had a private exchange and thought we were past this crap. Just because I talk about women, doesn't mean I am not sensitive. If I find something heartwarming, I will go out of my fucking way to say that it is adorable. I am not ashamed of being who I am. Stop with this FFS


Fuck off, Swiss.

there arent tho

Tpww has always demanded thick skin. Day one

Well, that's something for you mods to sort out between each other and discuss with Triple A.

I don't know why people would say that about Guru. Because he flirted with Noid or something? It was a joke from what I saw.

Thing about rules is they have to be posted by the definition of the term. This place has no rules, its not a matternof debate. Tpww is lawless.

i feel like a bunch of grown men should be able to argue and take a conversation wherever they want.

I don't think anyone threatened anyone

And if they find the conversation displeasing just leave it. I do it all the time. If i find my self getting worked up irl i just take a few days off from it and see if i still care later.

Its not difficult. The ego of demanding that you be right and abuse of requiring himself to have the last word is disgusting.