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Destor 06-30-2018 02:57 PM

The notion that every random twat on a show needs a background check is fucking absurd. The internet is stupid

Emperor Smeat 06-30-2018 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5141246)
Apparently so -- And now some parts of the internet are mad at Kenny Omega for him being on the show.

Omega clarified on Twitter he didn't book the dark matches or talent -- and that he didn't know -- but, of course, some wrestling fans don't care and now think he is the devil.

Supposedly he's also catching heat for having a woman abuser also get booked on the show. He was the sex offender's opponent.

Even if he didn't book or know about their pasts, he's still taking a pretty bad hit PR wise.

Destor 06-30-2018 05:58 PM

Because the internet is stupid

Emperor Smeat 06-30-2018 06:14 PM

IWC can be really dumb at times but this situation was also completely avoidable had someone either in CEO or Omega himself just done a quick check on the non-NJPW & DDT guys.

Seems the only reason why the sex offender keeps getting booked in the indies is due to him owning a ring and ring truck which he supplied for this event. Also Omega made the simple mistake of giving the wrestling school associated with this event too much control for the dark match.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here it is: I produced all matches from dark match #2 on.I gave the ring crew (also a wrestling school) carte Blanche to have our first dark. No entrances,no name graphics. And thus they had a match. I met Chasyn once in 2004 so his name was familiar. The other guy I’d never met.</p>&mdash; Kenny Omega (@KennyOmegamanX) <a href="https://twitter.com/KennyOmegamanX/status/1013076436134047744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 30, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Destor 06-30-2018 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5141308)
IWC can be really dumb at times but this situation was also completely avoidable had someone either in CEO or Omega himself just done a quick check on the non-NJPW & DDT guys.

Ridiculous statement. "Assume everyone is a pedophile" is stupid. Stop being stupid.

Emperor Smeat 06-30-2018 07:00 PM

The guy is an actual registered sex offender and apparently owns or helps run the wrestling school that was associated with this event. This was the same school that Bayley's superfan Izzy trained at before leaving due to some issues there.

The other guy only got outed as a woman abuser because some people online knew him from the Florida indies and/or did a quick check to find out more about him as a wrestler.

Fignuts 06-30-2018 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5141297)
Supposedly he's also catching heat for having a woman abuser also get booked on the show. He was the sex offender's opponent.

Even if he didn't book or know about their pasts, he's still taking a pretty bad hit PR wise.

He's taking a PR hit from a few morons on the internet. I doubt most people care if they ever even hear about it

Ultra Mantis 07-01-2018 06:51 PM

Went to SSE today, Bone Soldier and Tiger Mask are mad short in person. Insanely short. Ishimori looked like a child in a Halloween mask. An incredibly buff child.

Heard these shows are going up on World, so gonna tag it just in case

SPOILER: show
Okada has red and black pants now and lost to ZSJ via flash pin. Looked like he left his new robe back in Japan with his Okada dollars, tied some balloons to his ass instead. Poor little Kazu. Watching Sabre monkey around on someone's back up close is pretty funny. Kinda frustrating to watch because he reverses EVERYTHING FOREVER. Good match though, Okada was the most over guy on the show by far, as he should be. Sabre probably second, though Suzuki, Ishii and Ospreay were all up there.

Jay White is a really good wrestler but he has really average matches, it's weird. Everything he does looks great, but there's something lost in the way his matches play out. Dunno, hope he can work it out. He also has a serious case of Bret Hart face.

Fun spot where Iizuka bites Gedo and gets booed, then he bites Yano and gets booed much louder, goes over and bites Yoshi-Hashi on the apron to a small smattering of boos and mild cheers.

Ishii lost his Rev Pro title to Suzuki, CHAOS lost every match apart from Switchblade actually. Awesome match, obviously these two beat the shit out of each other. Some absolutely sickening elbows and chops from both guys. Ishii's selling is top notch.

Ospreay lost to Taichi. What a fucking loser.


Would have obviously liked Tanahashi and especially LiJ to have bee there, but still had a blast.

Got to see Nagata murder Shota too, so that was cool.

Fignuts 07-01-2018 07:46 PM

I'm all in on Taichi. Enjoyed all of his matches since the heavyweight transition. Great gimmick as well. So obnoxious.

Fignuts 07-01-2018 07:52 PM

Watched Mutoh and Chono vs Saito and Hashimoto from 90'.

I love the current nj product but they could learn from this match on how to throw in some straight emotional FIRE into the matches.

Not that the current product doesn't have that, but Jesus Christ, the whole early 90's main event crew was on another fucking level. Watching Mutoh and Hase go at it and the crowd is going INSANE.

Ultra Mantis 07-01-2018 07:53 PM

Taichi is amazing because you really want to like him but then he acts like Taichi, then he starts doing some cool shit and whips his pants off but goes back to doing Taichi things again so you don't want him to actually win. He refused to wrestle for ages because everyone was chanting Ospreay instead of Taichi :lol:

Fignuts 07-01-2018 07:54 PM

Like you watch that tag match and the pure HATE they're portraying towards one another is so convincing that you might think it was a shoot.

Simple Fan 07-01-2018 08:22 PM

Big fan of Taichi's move to heaveyweight as well.

slik 07-06-2018 08:43 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just announced! Get ready for more NJPW action coming Stateside!<br><br>Sep 30 in Long Beach - Fighting Spirit Unleashed!<br><br>Nov 10 &amp; 11 @ the Anaheim Convention Center - Lion's Break: Project 1!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/g1usa?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#g1usa</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njpw?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njpw</a> <a href="https://t.co/BMk7DqRquF">pic.twitter.com/BMk7DqRquF</a></p>&mdash; njpw_global (@njpwglobal) <a href="https://twitter.com/njpwglobal/status/1015340769232617473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 6, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Mr. Nerfect 07-06-2018 11:50 PM

Meij the force be with them.

Jordan 07-07-2018 12:56 AM

Just watched Omega/Okada from Dominion on AXS with Barnett and Ross on commentary. Kevin Kelly and Don Callis were much better, they had the advantage of being live but still, much better.

Jordan 07-07-2018 11:54 AM

Was thinking we could make a new topic for tonight's show but I don't think we will have a lot of viewers. :(

Anyone know where sales are at for the gate?

Jordan 07-07-2018 01:48 PM

Wow JR and Barnett really sell the Golden Lovers as a romantic pair. I never really gave it any thought and I searched google and found that Kenny has outed himself as bisexual. Really funny to hear JR say "Well Cody stole a kiss" ... "Why do you think he did that JR?" "I don't know, to make Kenny jealous?" LOL...

Evil Vito 07-07-2018 01:54 PM

The Golden Lovers were always obviously a gay love story. I found it both amusing and gross that there are loads of NJPW fans on reddit trying to act like it wasn't.

Jordan 07-07-2018 02:20 PM

It is certainly unique. Really gotta be a hater to hate on it.

Evil Vito 07-07-2018 07:13 PM

Boy I wish I had a show to watch tonight.

Fuck AXS with a rusty spoon.

slik 07-07-2018 07:17 PM

I might miss the beginning hour but will be tuning in

How long will it last?

Dark One 07-07-2018 07:51 PM

Gonna be watching LIVE.

How bad will the riot be if Cody steals the title? California finally secedes from the union and flies off into space?

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:05 PM

Haku kicking off the show with his boys in the 10 man.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:05 PM

LOL they announced him as THE OG King Haku.

Dark One 07-07-2018 08:06 PM

I hope King Haku rips YOSHI-HASHI's face off and throws it into the crowd.

Sound mixing is pretty brutal so far. Barnett and Ross talking during entrances is turning into a garbled mess with the ring announcing and themes all at the same volume with them.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:06 PM

Jesus Haku's arms are huge.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:08 PM

Crowd boo's Haku taking an early bump lol.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:09 PM

Wow I didn't know that Haku had THREE sons in NJPW. That is crazy.

Dark One 07-07-2018 08:10 PM

Pretty sure Tama Tonga stinger splashed Rocky Romero with his balls.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:11 PM

What the fuck just happened there? The ref totally stalled on that count for the piledriver.

Dark One 07-07-2018 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5143447)
Wow I didn't know that Haku had THREE sons in NJPW. That is crazy.

Hikuleo only made a handful of appearances before being out with an injury, so he's easily forgotten.

But yeah, King Haku slowly gonna fill out the whole G1

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:15 PM

I want Tama Tonga to go far.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:16 PM

I hate that no sell for the back stabber there.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:17 PM

Haha! Good finish for the Haku Fam.

Emperor Smeat 07-07-2018 08:17 PM

:lol: at JR calling Gedo "Ghetto"

Opener was good overall.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:18 PM

Always wanted the Tongan's to go to WWE to feud with the Uso's but why bother, they should be making good money, they have good spots and seem to be getting bigger. I like it a lot. Love Haku getting that sick piledriver offense as well as the Death Grip on the booker lol. awesome.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:19 PM

I wonder if Haku didn't knock Rocky a little loopy with that piledriver, that was such an impact. Also Rocky was moving very slow on that dive I thought.

Emperor Smeat 07-07-2018 08:25 PM

First time hearing Suzuki's anniversary theme and it doesn't sound as great as his regular one.

Dark One 07-07-2018 08:26 PM

"How many concussions you think these guys have wrestled through in their lifetime?"

https://media1.tenor.com/images/5a77...itemid=4946897

Dark One 07-07-2018 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5143457)
First time hearing Suzuki's anniversary theme and it doesn't sound as great as his regular one.

The sound mixing and acoustics make every theme sound like Big Cass's theme right now. I wouldn't judge anything on tonight.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:31 PM

Suzuki is in really great shape.

Dark One 07-07-2018 08:32 PM

Slapping Suzuku? Ishii's balls must be the size of his head.

Emperor Smeat 07-07-2018 08:33 PM

Ishii must have some sort of death wish going on with him actually wanting Suzkui to be pissed off.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:33 PM

WOW What a sequence after the test your might strike challenge.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:35 PM

Haha! Wow Yano with the cover on Sabre!

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:35 PM

Fun match for sure.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:37 PM

Tanahashi up next! Looking forward to a Tanahashi resurgence to the main event.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:39 PM

I'm not a big Marty Scurl fan but I'm opening up to him.

Dark One 07-07-2018 08:40 PM

"The Villain Maaaartttyyy Scuuuurrrlll. And the guy who DEFINITELY did not murder Noted Dick Wrestler Joey Ryan, Haaaangman Paaagee."

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:48 PM

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Jordan 07-07-2018 08:49 PM

Okada/Suzuki 30 minute draw at Suzuki's 30th anniversary... in the rain!

Dark One 07-07-2018 08:49 PM

2/10, doesn't have the best picture

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgXnT81U8AAHX54.jpg:large

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:54 PM

Awesome. Reporte 18,000 people were there... I dunno about that but if it's in that ballpark that is pretty awesome.

Dark One 07-07-2018 08:54 PM

If you had told me 20 years ago I would prefer Kevin Kelly to Jim Ross I would have punched you in the throat.

Also RIP Kushida

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:54 PM

Wow that reverse tombstone was sick.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 5143476)
If you had told me 20 years ago I would prefer Kevin Kelly to Jim Ross I would have punched you in the throat.

Also RIP Kushida

I agree. We need screamo 1988 Jr. for this. This laid back approach doesn't help the mood.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:56 PM

I wish they'd have given Tanahashi the heat after that and beat their ass a little bit.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:58 PM

Well I think this would be an appropriate time for JR to drop "This one's gonna be a barn burner" on this one.

Jordan 07-07-2018 08:59 PM

Anyone herd of the attendance number? I can't find anything.

Emperor Smeat 07-07-2018 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5143483)
Anyone herd of the attendance number? I can't find anything.

Last I read, NJPW sold around 7,700 tickets for this show.

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:09 PM

Wow that is really good.

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:09 PM

OMG wow.... Cobb with a standing moonsault that was insane.

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:12 PM

Wow I thought Cobb had it won with the moonsault

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:12 PM

Cobb reminds me of ECW. Taz mixed with Super Crazy.

Dark One 07-07-2018 09:15 PM

Damn, Cobb is apparently 35

Emperor Smeat 07-07-2018 09:15 PM

NEVER title match was pretty good. Cobb would have stood a better chance if he channeled his inner Monster persona.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5143486)
Wow that is really good.

Yeah this ended up being the 2nd highest sold non-WWE event in years but well short of the 10k mark NJPW thought they'd easily get.

Didn't help that All In stole a lot of the thunder for a big indie event and NJPW coasted way too much building this event.

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:21 PM

You know if there was one star from WWE that I think would be mega in NJPW... Randy Orton. He gets to keep his name, he can work at a high level when inspired, and he would come off so legit in this environment.

slik 07-07-2018 09:22 PM

Saw the 1st match, watching the current match

will have to catch the rest later

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:22 PM

Young Bucks looking like men now!

slik 07-07-2018 09:23 PM

As always...the darkened arena look is so good

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5143494)
Saw the 1st match, watching the current match

will have to catch the rest later

It's been solid all around nothing amazing but all fun.

Dark One 07-07-2018 09:24 PM

Is that the Human Centipede Sharpshooter?

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:26 PM

LOL JR "That move was made famous at Alcatraz"

slik 07-07-2018 09:27 PM

I have a dudecrush on Sanada

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:28 PM

Sanada's physique is really good.

Dark One 07-07-2018 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5143500)
I have a dudecrush on Sanada

Finn vs SANADA who you got

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:29 PM

This match is awesome

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:31 PM

SWINGING DRAGON SLEEPER!!!!

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:32 PM

Legit did an organic Joel Styles OH MY GOD on that DDT to the apron.

slik 07-07-2018 09:32 PM

Good looking Scorpion Death Lock from Young Buck rassler

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:33 PM

This is the best. My god, these spots are so on point.

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:34 PM

Usually Nick is my favorite Buck but Matt is showing me in this match that he should get a shot at the IWGP Heavyweight Championship.

slik 07-07-2018 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 5143502)
Finn vs SANADA who you got

Turns heel on both for ZSJ

Emperor Smeat 07-07-2018 09:36 PM

If there is one thing I really love about NJPW is how well they handle submission moves unlike the WWE. They don't treat it as a useless spot unless its someone's finisher and build them up during matches that even a simple hold feels like a legit match ender.

slik 07-07-2018 09:37 PM

Jim Ross is hysterical, I have missed him on live shows.

"They learned that move in Alcatraz"
"The referee was not invited to the Superkick Party"

slik 07-07-2018 09:39 PM

Great tag match

Emperor Smeat 07-07-2018 09:40 PM

IWGP Tag match was amazing.

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:40 PM

I loved that match. I think I liked it more than the main event of the last AXS show. Really good.

Dark One 07-07-2018 09:43 PM

15 minute Yakuza 0 intermission. Back in a bit

Emperor Smeat 07-07-2018 09:43 PM

:lol: at the mix of boos and cheers for the next NJPW event not being in San Fran.

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:50 PM

Looking forward to The Lions Break in November. I don't really know what kind of quality to expect.

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:53 PM

I never watched Cody and Kenny from ROH so I am pretty pumped for this.

Jordan 07-07-2018 09:54 PM

Also the Juice broken hand motherfucker promo indeed was the best promo in ages.

Dark One 07-07-2018 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5143519)
I never watched Cody and Kenny from ROH so I am pretty pumped for this.

It was kind of underwhelming, but that may also be that it's a victim of following NXT Takeover and ROH doing pretty much everything they possibly could to shit the bed between the end of Takeover and Kenny vs Cody's start.

Emperor Smeat 07-07-2018 10:03 PM

Okada must be running out of money if he has to resort to making it rain with a few balloons.

Or got mentally broken after losing his best pal, Mr. IWGP Heavyweight Belt.

Dark One 07-07-2018 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5143522)
Okada must be running out of money if he has to resort to making it rain with a few balloons.

Brutal pay cut without the championship.

Jordan 07-07-2018 10:06 PM

Love Okada's new look.

Dark One 07-07-2018 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5143524)
Love Okada's new look.

Call me when he has a post-title depression hobo beard.

Jordan 07-07-2018 10:07 PM

TranQWEELOW oh man, he's always having trouble on these shows but who cares, it's still cool to hear JR on commentary, he's older it is what it is. Still cool still cool.


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