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Tom Guycott 05-06-2019 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5249640)
It's just gonna be "be sure to drink your Ovaltine'

A crummy commercial? Son of a BITCH!

Tom Guycott 05-06-2019 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5249427)
I don’t normally share fan videos, but this was good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl-kK5pW_aQ

Ironically, this is a microcosm of WWE's current booking philosophy. Everything they did could have paid off in a big way... but an event that had zero to do with this angle caused Vince to overlook that. So scared of losing "that moment" overshadowed, he pissed another one away without any thought to implications of both storyline and career trajectory.

Nobody ever feels like they "belong" because they are never built to belong. And if this whole Goldberg/Kofi thing comes to pass, they're basically repeating history... just without so many racial overtures, but a more egrigious error: once again confirming to your own audience that your current crop of "superstars" are not nearly as good as any fossil you dig up from yesteryear. I mean, can you imagine what kind of rub it would be (provided Bill can still go) if Kofi knocks him off and he keeps being the man that "does the impossible"? From all those Royal Rumble saves to constantly beating guys in championship matches he's "not supposed to"... that's how you build stock in the future.

Instead, what is most likely to happen they are phoning in: short-term gains to be had from nostalgia and fucking Kingston back to midcard hell for no good goddamn reason, and they will still scratch their heads as to why viewers are vacating and talent wants to go elsewhere.

Droford 05-06-2019 05:43 AM

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Big Vic 05-06-2019 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5249640)
It's just gonna be "be sure to drink your Ovaltine'

Plz cite your jokes

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Gerard 05-06-2019 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5249911)
TIL Zelina Vegas dad died during 9/11

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I paid my respects WrestleMania weekend. Your dad was and always will be a hero. <a href="https://t.co/4MoLzZSIhR">pic.twitter.com/4MoLzZSIhR</a></p>&mdash; Eric McCoy (@ShowtimeRHEC) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShowtimeRHEC/status/1125169972873965569?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 5, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Her Dad is a "hero" because he died during one of the 9/11 collapses......It's not like he was a firefighter he was supposedly working with Telecoms.

:wtf:

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-06-2019 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5249974)
Her Dad is a "hero" because he died during one of the 9/11 collapses......It's not like he was a firefighter he was supposedly working with Telecoms.

:wtf:

She's a wrestler. It is only natural to embellish things to the point of nauseating tackiness.

Jordan 05-06-2019 10:36 AM

Wrestling fans are so weird.

Big Vic 05-06-2019 11:01 AM

Should I look up her dads grave so you guys can spit on it?


:|

Volare 05-06-2019 11:22 AM

Becky needs to go fire a rocket launcher...

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Emperor Smeat 05-06-2019 12:02 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh shit, there's a Chris Jericho skin in this game. <a href="https://t.co/3CvhXLboCq">pic.twitter.com/3CvhXLboCq</a></p>&mdash; Pentagon JuniorSenior (@bear_onica) <a href="https://twitter.com/bear_onica/status/1124857598027751424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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#1-norm-fan 05-06-2019 12:26 PM

lol I love Jericho's weird rebirth since leaving WWE.

slik 05-06-2019 04:21 PM

I have a feeling if the cancelled SD house show leads to more than just Big Doggo on RAW we'll end up with random tag team and 6-man tag matches between RAW/SD stars.

Fignuts 05-06-2019 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5249974)
Her Dad is a "hero" because he died during one of the 9/11 collapses......It's not like he was a firefighter he was supposedly working with Telecoms.

:wtf:

Literally no way to not sound like an asshole saying this, no matter how true it is.

TheTerminator 05-06-2019 04:37 PM

International wrestling action : Russian wrestler THE COMMANDANT travels to Georgia to fight Lilith!
 
<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mRxKKQbriHQ" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" width="560" height="315"></iframe>

https://i.imgur.com/6mGU8GO.jpg

The Russian is smiling as he came over to GWC all the way from Moscow to take the fight!

https://i.imgur.com/RJdaKzb.jpg

It quickly turns south for him as Lilith takes out the trash!

https://i.imgur.com/eGyTAwb.jpg

The Russian military man picks up a stop sign...is that the best he's got?

Check this awesome match out guys!

Please like and leave a comment if you enjoyed this exclusive international match!

GD 05-06-2019 04:55 PM

It’s Pretty Cool he got a work permit for your wrestling organization. Kudos.

Gerard 05-06-2019 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5250037)
Literally no way to not sound like an asshole saying this, no matter how true it is.

It's the equivalent of me dying a hero because i was walking across the road, then got run over by a car driven by a murderer...:wtf:

Gerard 05-06-2019 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5249982)
Should I look up her dads grave so you guys can spit on it?


:|

Don't think anyone was going that direction, just questioning the "hero" thing stated by a fan.

Bad News Gertner 05-06-2019 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTerminator (Post 5250040)
<iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/mRxKKQbriHQ" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" width="560" height="315"></iframe>

https://i.imgur.com/6mGU8GO.jpg

The Russian is smiling as he came over to GWC all the way from Moscow to take the fight!

https://i.imgur.com/RJdaKzb.jpg

It quickly turns south for him as Lilith takes out the trash!

https://i.imgur.com/eGyTAwb.jpg

The Russian military man picks up a stop sign...is that the best he's got?

Check this awesome match out guys!

Please like and leave a comment if you enjoyed this exclusive international match!

This needs to be moved back

Emperor Smeat 05-06-2019 05:56 PM

<blockquote class="reddit-card" data-card-created="1557179775"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/bl4wky/earthquake_my_dad_playing_tetris_while_my_brother/">Earthquake (my dad) playing Tetris while my brother and sister look on.</a> from <a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle">r/SquaredCircle</a></blockquote>
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Seanny One Ball 05-06-2019 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5249974)
Her Dad is a "hero" because he died during one of the 9/11 collapses......It's not like he was a firefighter he was supposedly working with Telecoms.

:wtf:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5250045)
Don't think anyone was going that direction, just questioning the "hero" thing stated by a fan.

*Pulls pin, throws grenade*

The guy didn't say he was a hero for dying during 9/11.

Maybe he saved him from choking in a restaurant one time? Maybe he saved lots of cats from trees.

We will never know.

Evil Vito 05-06-2019 07:38 PM

NXT Takeover is gonna be in Bridgeport! WTF holy shit

Gerard 05-06-2019 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5250054)
*Pulls pin, throws grenade*

The guy didn't say he was a hero for dying during 9/11.

Maybe he saved him from choking in a restaurant one time? Maybe he saved lots of cats from trees.

We will never know.

Well thats the jist of it when 9/11 was mentioned.

Bad News Gertner 05-07-2019 07:11 AM

It really sucks when wrestling YouTube channels get shut down by the WWE. R.I.P John Smith and Pieces of Wrestling History

Juan 05-07-2019 07:44 AM

Why do people complain about the roster split and then also complain when SD guys show up on Raw and Raw guys show up on SD?

Sepholio 05-07-2019 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5250216)
Why do people complain about the roster split and then also complain when SD guys show up on Raw and Raw guys show up on SD?

This question also crossed my mind.

I get that it's a continuity or credibility issue for some. Why have a shake up if it doesn't matter? Why pretend the rosters are separate if they aren't treated as such? I get it.

But it does seem like complaining for the sake of complaining. Having people show up wherever opens the door for more storylines and makes it way easier to keep things fresh. I don't see a legit downside from the viewer perspective.

Big Vic 05-07-2019 08:28 AM

Was Romans unfinished business on Raw Drew? He seemed quite complacent to just show up and get that match, nothing else.

Did he go after Shane or did Shane go after him? I thought his business was Shane.

XL 05-07-2019 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5250216)
Why do people complain about the roster split and then also complain when SD guys show up on Raw and Raw guys show up on SD?

It’s more of an issue that absolutely nothing matters.

Like, you might not like having a brand split but if they’re going to have one they should enforce it fully. At this point they’re a tiny bit pregnant.

They’ve just spent 3 weeks deciding where everybody is going, with some people going backwards and forwards because they seemingly can’t plan more than a week ahead.

And now, none of the last 3 weeks really matter because you can just pick up a wildcard and appear on the other brand anyway.

They did an awful job explaining the limitations and restrictions on how the wildcard works with Vince saying one thing and the commentators saying another - probably because they haven’t quite worked out how it’s going to last. And they disregarded their own rules on Night 1.

Will they still build up Survivor Series as “the only night of the year where competitors from Raw and SmackDown face off against each other”? I wouldn’t be surprised.

Jordan 05-07-2019 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250052)
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John Tenta and Ricky Steamboat, wow.

Seanny One Ball 05-07-2019 10:34 AM

Hahahahahaha

#1-norm-fan 05-07-2019 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5250216)
Why do people complain about the roster split and then also complain when SD guys show up on Raw and Raw guys show up on SD?

I don’t so much have a problem with the roster split as I do with the multiple world champions thing which is just fucking stupid.

But if you’re gonna do a roster split, commit to it. It’s WWE being scatterbrained.

#1-norm-fan 05-07-2019 10:57 AM

Basically, there’s no contradiction in saying “I don’t like that thing they’re doing and also, the execution of the thing is terrible.”

slik 05-07-2019 11:24 AM

Fightful reporting Jen Pepperman, one of the WWE directors, has heat backstage via bringing her Daytime Emmy she won for directing a soap opera to RAW with her the next day.


It is noted WWE has never won an Emmy directly so this was viewed as an attack on WWE by some in WWE management but was really an employee celebrating a win in her field. Pepperman is said to be well-liked by many wrestlers.

GD 05-07-2019 11:27 AM

I did not watch a minute of RAW this week. I read the results and some dirtsheets. Genuinely turned off by the aftermath of the Superstar shakeup and it meaning jackshit. Also the amount of toxicity in this company is one of the primary reasons for me to do so. I’ll attempt to keep up with Smackdown and NXT for now.

Sepholio 05-07-2019 12:11 PM

To be fair Dave if you are going to watch SD and NXT then the toxicity of the company has nothing to do with your decision. If it was about the toxicity you wouldn't watch any of their programming.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-07-2019 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250262)
Also the amount of toxicity in this company is one of the primary reasons for me to do so. I’ll attempt to keep up with Smackdown and NXT for now.

How, as a long-time wrestling fan, is the toxicity only effecting you now?

Jordan 05-07-2019 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5250275)
To be fair Dave if you are going to watch SD and NXT then the toxicity of the company has nothing to do with your decision. If it was about the toxicity you wouldn't watch any of their programming.

What do you want, disorder? Disorder?

GD 05-07-2019 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5250275)
To be fair Dave if you are going to watch SD and NXT then the toxicity of the company has nothing to do with your decision. If it was about the toxicity you wouldn't watch any of their programming.

That's true. I don't want to see Smackdown or NXT either. It's just something I want to do gradually. Don't want to go cold turkey.

GD 05-07-2019 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5250276)
How, as a long-time wrestling fan, is the toxicity only effecting you now?

My interest in the product is nowhere near it was just a few years ago. I am using the toxic environment excuse to ease myself into the decision.

GD 05-07-2019 12:26 PM

I feel like I am every other fan who dislikes the current product but keeps on watching the product out of habit. There are moments that make it worthwhile but the amount of time and dedication they ask from a fan is ludicrous compared to what we get in return. It's like you know you're in a bad relationship but don't want to quit because it is comforting.

XL 05-07-2019 12:55 PM

Sunk cost effect.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-07-2019 01:01 PM

Never understand how people act like WWE sucking is a revelation. They use terms like 'the current product' as though the product hasn't been some form of this since 2001.

GD 05-07-2019 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5250295)
Never understand how people act like WWE sucking is a revelation. They use terms like 'the current product' as though the product hasn't been some form of this since 2001.

It's not a revelation. It's just a choice to not follow it as closely.

GD 05-07-2019 01:08 PM

Their insistence on changing things on the fly, not committing to anything. The introduction of the "Wild Card Rules" concept after a sad and depressing Superstar Shakeup.

Also, found this video comparison on SquaredCircle to be quite interesting.

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Ol Dirty Dastard 05-07-2019 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250297)
It's not a revelation. It's just a choice to not follow it as closely.

It only took almost 2 decades!

GD 05-07-2019 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5250299)
It only took almost 2 decades!

It's true. I am still not quitting the product entirely. I just refuse to allocate three hours on Monday. That's a start. If Smackdown also reeks of the same stale product, I won't hesitate to quit it either.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-07-2019 01:16 PM

THAT'LL SHOW THEM

GD 05-07-2019 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5250301)
THAT'LL SHOW THEM

I apologize if that’s the impression I gave. I am just cutting my loses and moving on.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-07-2019 01:39 PM

you are falling out of love w wrestling. you weeny

GD 05-07-2019 01:42 PM

I know :(

Evil Vito 05-07-2019 01:46 PM

I remember when I was doing a watch-through of 2002 right after the roster split, same time period Cool King was doing except I didn't do posts about it.

And maaaaaaaaaaaan did Raw ever suck. The amazing thing though is I remember loving it at the time. Just goes to show that being 13 made me more likely to simply accept what I get and not think too hard about it.

2002 SmackDown definitely held up though. Usually one or two great matches a week and some fun characters. Only thing that really grinds my gears about those shows is the grating piped in cheers and boos that they were still using right up until SmackDown went live.

Big Vic 05-07-2019 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250262)
I did not watch a minute of RAW this week. I read the results and some dirtsheets. Genuinely turned off by the aftermath of the Superstar shakeup and it meaning jackshit. Also the amount of toxicity in this company is one of the primary reasons for me to do so. I’ll attempt to keep up with Smackdown and NXT for now.

The whole wildcard thing makes me not want to tune into smackdown.

Emperor Smeat 05-07-2019 02:29 PM

WWE was really lucky they signed their mega tv deal last year since the Observer reported the general feeling within the tv industry is wrestling is now a "cold" market for television. All due to WWE's rapid decline and woes this year.

That makes it harder for AEW to get a great deal for their planned weekly tv show and Impact's chances on finding a better network since they desperately want to get out of Pursuit in a few months.

Bad News Gertner 05-07-2019 02:45 PM

I was thinking about that yesterday. What if Vince is sabotaging his product so AEW will end up getting a shitty T.V deal

GD 05-07-2019 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by /r/SC
I have been a fan of the WWF/WWE since 1987, always been super loyal like I'm sure many others here. But I decided to stop watching Raw and Smackdown as of last week and just catch the highlights on YouTube instead. I've saved 5 hours a week and more importantly saved some of my own sanity. I'll stick to NXT, Takeovers and WWE PPVs. And other Network specials. I just can't do Raw specifically any more, and right now Smackdown feels like a waste of time too. The product has become beyond stale IMHO, and is incredibly formulaic. I knew I reached a tipping point recently when the smallest "WWE habit" ticked me off... like wrestlers slamming mics after every promo, or every promo sounding wooden and lifeless. Heck, even hearing "Because at (name of upcoming PPV)" has irked me to no ends. I realized it was time to filter my viewing experience and make it work better for me.

I'm sure I'm far from the only one. I am really hoping AEW hits it out of the park and gets WWE trying again. Because right now they're phoning it in. The little bits I caught tonight... it seems like Vince has become a parody of himself, and it's sad to see. The Wild Card rule seems like a desperate attempt to provide some different creative avenues, but it just came off as kind of pathetic following the Superstar Shakeup. It's as if nothing matters or counts in WWE any more. They're just killing time. Shoot, I'd rather play my huge backlog of video games, or read a good book to fill the time.

That Usos-Revival segment was awful beyond belief... pro wrestling done right is really good. It's not that complicated. But somehow the WWE is getting it wrong on so many levels. It's become hard to watch, so until it gets better, I'll stick to highlights and PPVs. And hoping AEW gives the North American wrestling industry the shot in the arm it so desperately needs.


Seanny One Ball 05-07-2019 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250298)
Their insistence on changing things on the fly, not committing to anything. The introduction of the "Wild Card Rules" concept after a sad and depressing Superstar Shakeup.

Also, found this video comparison on SquaredCircle to be quite interesting.

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Who is the huge guy in red trunks? He looks like Krampus or something. Game Of Thrones could have used him.

GD 05-07-2019 03:30 PM

Lars Sullivan.

Also,

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Crazy Vince McMahon Stories [thread] <a href="https://t.co/rjXwosHBeu">pic.twitter.com/rjXwosHBeu</a></p>&mdash; Allan (@allan_cheapshot) <a href="https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1125313121818640384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 05-07-2019 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5250341)
I was thinking about that yesterday. What if Vince is sabotaging his product so AEW will end up getting a shitty T.V deal

I could see that being believable if this was something that only happened suddenly like WWE's rapid decline in quality and interest post-Hulkamania era or post-Invasion storyline.

Instead this has been something that's been self-inflicted for years and only now has gotten to the point where its becoming impossible to ignore or sweep away. WWE's biggest blunders were not learning their lessons from the booking mistakes with the Cena era and not grooming Cena's kids market to be their future core viewers.

In the span of a few months, WWE went from being one of the hottest properties in television to now being closer to "ice cold" status. If they were a regular tv style show, they would have been canceled by now and the only reason it hasn't happened is due to their ability to provide weekly content without needing seasonal breaks.

erickman 05-07-2019 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250330)
WWE was really lucky they signed their mega tv deal last year since the Observer reported the general feeling within the tv industry is wrestling is now a "cold" market for television. All due to WWE's rapid decline and woes this year.

That makes it harder for AEW to get a great deal for their planned weekly tv show and Impact's chances on finding a better network since they desperately want to get out of Pursuit in a few months.

I wondered why aew did not sign a deal yet

Emperor Smeat 05-07-2019 04:23 PM

Turner Broadcasting supposedly got cold feet once they found out All In was produced by ROH and not by The Elite.

Its why Double or Nothing is speculated to be a "proof of concept" event for AEW to convince tv networks they can produce a quality show on their own.

erickman 05-07-2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250382)
Turner Broadcasting supposedly got cold feet once they found out All In was produced by ROH and not by The Elite.

Its why Double or Nothing is speculated to be a "proof of concept" event for AEW to convince tv networks they can produce a quality show on their own.

the funny thing is keith Mitchel used to produce for wcw and some of the old guys at tbs know his work will be producing.

Gerard 05-07-2019 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250298)
Their insistence on changing things on the fly, not committing to anything. The introduction of the "Wild Card Rules" concept after a sad and depressing Superstar Shakeup.

Also, found this video comparison on SquaredCircle to be quite interesting.

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More surprised they allow a running powerbomb after what happened to Droz. They banned the piledriver for much less if you compare what happened to Austin vs Droz. And that was only because Owen Hart decided to do a weird variation of a tombstone when he (allegedly) talked to austin backstage and said he would drop to his knees after initially saying he would drop to his ass.

Seanny One Ball 05-07-2019 07:01 PM

The way Ric Flair took piledrivers is the best and worst way to do it. Safer than a scoop slam with absolutely no visible impact.

And the crowd goes mild

slik 05-07-2019 07:10 PM

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Tom Guycott 05-07-2019 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5250341)
I was thinking about that yesterday. What if Vince is sabotaging his product so AEW will end up getting a shitty T.V deal

Tue pettiness is on par with WWE operation, but then, the action would require viable forethought they clearly don't have.

Example context to my statement:

1) constantly trying to bury Daniel Bryan because his popularity was fucking up their plans until they couldn't sweep it under the rug anymore, then pretending that is what they meant to do the entire time until the temporary retirement.

2) the time I was swerved into believing that WWE was trying to bank on Batista being hot shit off the back of the first Guardians, but in reality, they thought the movie was going to flop, and didn't factor cross promotion at all.

3) having potential, premade stars graduate from their Florida factory, just to make them nobodies in short order.

4) killing an angle between Sasha and Bayley that saw Bayley not get suckered. It was supposed to be a heel turn but got a damn cathartic pop and should have been an avenue to make her a force to be reckoned with. Instead, that gets scrubbed in like three weeks to force them into a tag team to become the inaugural women's champs that they really didn't need to do.

5) NXT makes a big deal out of x tag team. Tag team gets called up to main roster. Tag team gets featured for like a month. Tag team fucks off to oblivion. See: American Alpha, Authors of Pain, The Ascension, The Revival, Heavy Machinery....

6) Remember when they thought Jinder Mahal would be a big deal halfway around the world just because he was brown?

They have been doing shitty shows since before Cody Rhodes tweeted "hold my beer". There is no way fucking over AEW is any priority. More like a "bright side" side effect of being a colossal shitty show... well, shitshow.

Tom Guycott 05-07-2019 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250367)
I could see that being believable if this was something that only happened suddenly like WWE's rapid decline in quality and interest post-Hulkamania era or post-Invasion storyline.

Instead this has been something that's been self-inflicted for years and only now has gotten to the point where its becoming impossible to ignore or sweep away. WWE's biggest blunders were not learning their lessons from the booking mistakes with the Cena era and not grooming Cena's kids market to be their future core viewers.

In the span of a few months, WWE went from being one of the hottest properties in television to now being closer to "ice cold" status. If they were a regular tv style show, they would have been canceled by now and the only reason it hasn't happened is due to their ability to provide weekly content without needing seasonal breaks.

Or, basically, not wanting Cena to begin with, then eventually sacrificing all up-and-comers upon his altar and not building anyone new until there was a "dire need"... exactly the same reason they decided to even push Cena to begin with.

Nobody's important until we need them to be important, but by the time that happens, they have usually bottomed out that pity well with the fans.

Mr. Nerfect 05-08-2019 04:06 AM

The Vince conspiracies were bound to come in, but it's a bit risky to fly so close to the sun when you could potentially lose hundreds of millions should NBC and FOX not be appeased.

Mr. Nerfect 05-08-2019 06:22 AM

Saw a cool interview with Rhyno. He's walking away from WWE when his contract expires on July 17 because he wants to wrestle more and help bring more inexperienced talents along. WWE offered him twice as big a downside as he had to stay.

slik 05-08-2019 12:10 PM

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slik 05-08-2019 12:56 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Many are aware. If true, he has to bear the albatross of being a bigot &amp; working in a company that is now filled with minorities.</p>&mdash; Florida Man (@WWEBigE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEBigE/status/1126145932486221828?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Big Vic 05-08-2019 01:11 PM

I like how in between all the examples of bigotry the is this one example of "Zach Ryder=cringeworthy" lol.

Emperor Smeat 05-08-2019 02:07 PM

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Droford 05-08-2019 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250330)
WWE was really lucky they signed their mega tv deal last year since the Observer reported the general feeling within the tv industry is wrestling is now a "cold" market for television. All due to WWE's rapid decline and woes this year.

That makes it harder for AEW to get a great deal for their planned weekly tv show and Impact's chances on finding a better network since they desperately want to get out of Pursuit in a few months.

Impact should just go to airing on their network. It started as PPV each week so its hardly any different.

Droford 05-08-2019 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250262)
I did not watch a minute of RAW this week. I read the results and some dirtsheets. Genuinely turned off by the aftermath of the Superstar shakeup and it meaning jackshit. Also the amount of toxicity in this company is one of the primary reasons for me to do so. I’ll attempt to keep up with Smackdown and NXT for now.

I watched 45 minutes of raw yesterday before falling asleep. I watched all of SD though this morning. My fandom of a shitty baseball team has overcome wrestling even though I could watch both at the same time split screen.

slik 05-08-2019 03:14 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Video of WWE Business Partner Summit 2019 is now up on WWE's corporate website: <a href="https://t.co/hOQYUjQS0p">https://t.co/hOQYUjQS0p</a></p>&mdash; Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126147686359609349?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">-Seamless discovery<br>-Download to go<br>-Customization/personalization<br>-New content<br>-Multiple tiers</p>&mdash; Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126159214961934337?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Chief Marketing &amp; Communications Officer Brian Flinn:<br>&quot;We have the unique advantage of listening to our audience... Those 100 decibel crowds have the power to make or break characters.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/yvMNpjgryE">pic.twitter.com/yvMNpjgryE</a></p>&mdash; Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126161386185330689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;The second group is our action fans. They want amazing athleticism and consequential outcomes. Action fans love the fierce in ring battle of two people determined to become the champion. They are, in short, sports fans.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/sdqXOSNpF7">pic.twitter.com/sdqXOSNpF7</a></p>&mdash; Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126165682138296321?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh yes, R-Truth and Carmella go into the audience and sing &quot;What's Up!&quot; with the business partners. <a href="https://t.co/hGW55xYEKD">pic.twitter.com/hGW55xYEKD</a></p>&mdash; Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126173628696006656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Triple H touts WWE's discovery of Braun Strowman and Finn Balor. He notes, &quot;NXT is the most watched weekly show on the WWE Network.&quot; He puts over Takeover the night before and says ,&quot;it wouldn't have been possible at all without the Performance Center.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/Iw4I3QcHLU">pic.twitter.com/Iw4I3QcHLU</a></p>&mdash; Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126175438987038720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Triple H ponders, maybe someday there could be some kind of country vs. country event. <br><br>What started in Orlando &quot;will one day populate the globe&quot;. <a href="https://t.co/qk7nNIgDG0">pic.twitter.com/qk7nNIgDG0</a></p>&mdash; Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126179035334303744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stephanie McMahon rolls out new WWE community pillars! <a href="https://t.co/Moy1jQKb97">pic.twitter.com/Moy1jQKb97</a></p>&mdash; Wrestlenomics Radio (@wrestlenomics) <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics/status/1126182591017701377?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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GD 05-08-2019 03:55 PM

This deserves a thread of its own. Someone made a compilation of Lars’ bigoted views from the past.

https://reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/c...d_screenshots/

Supreme Olajuwon 05-08-2019 04:16 PM

SO MAKE THE GOD DAMN THREAD DAVE

Mr. Nerfect 05-08-2019 04:41 PM

Jesus Christ, that BPS sounds ridiculous.

Mr. Nerfect 05-08-2019 04:42 PM

What do you call the fans leaving?

GD 05-08-2019 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5250596)
SO MAKE THE GOD DAMN THREAD DAVE

I don’t have access to my laptop at the moment. I am traveling.

Evil Vito 05-08-2019 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5250574)
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imagining having sex with Toni Storm while Kaze Ni Nare plays...……….

rebootvito.exe

Fignuts 05-08-2019 05:34 PM

“We have the unique advantage of listening to our audience”

Yes you do. You should try doing that sometime.

Also, that segregation of the adult fan base shows the disconnect between them and the fans. Literally all adult fans want both of those things.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-08-2019 05:38 PM

What he meant to say was they have 2 fans, total. And that's what each one likes respectively.

slik 05-08-2019 08:10 PM

Reddit post on LARS saying lots of racist shit and making fun of most of his current co-workers


https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...d_screenshots/

slik 05-08-2019 08:13 PM

Probably would have been in his best interest to not post all those things while pursuing a career as a pro rassler...

Evil Vito 05-08-2019 08:23 PM

Those posts are really bad, especially the ones where he belittles people for having anxiety despite suffering through it himself. And he blocks anyone who brings up these posts.

It’s not even that he said one or two awful things. These are posts spanning half a decade showing patterns of racism, homophobia, and a complete lack of regard for the mentally ill. And all of these posts were when he was in his 20s and at an age where he clearly should’ve known better.

Is it possible for people to change? Yes. But his refusal to own up to any of his mistakes tells me that he hasn’t.

slik 05-08-2019 08:28 PM

When he called Kofi and R-Truth members of the Black Panthers...

...yeah, not winning any locker room pals probably judging from Big E's tweet.

GD 05-08-2019 08:34 PM

Slik, I posted that earlier today.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250588)
This deserves a thread of its own. Someone made a compilation of Lars’ bigoted views from the past.

https://reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/c...d_screenshots/


mike adamle 05-08-2019 08:36 PM

Watching the live ROH War of the Worlds Buffalo show on Honor Club right now. Why is SANADA rocking the Donald Trump haircut now?

slik 05-08-2019 09:16 PM

my bad, sorry!

GD 05-08-2019 09:21 PM

I quoted your posts in the new thread. I don't know how I feel about Lars. I've known about this for a while but it is finally getting some attention. I don't want him to lose his job but at the same time show some remorse for his bigoted views.

slik 05-08-2019 11:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wild Card rule means &quot;random appearances&quot; and not knowing who will show up on what <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> show. DOES NOTHING. Few appearances of full time roster will move needle like they want. It takes STORIES behind those talent appearances and a Wild Card rule isn't a good story. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a></p>&mdash; Justin LaBar (@JustinLaBar) <a href="https://twitter.com/JustinLaBar/status/1126230656848158722?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Bad News Gertner 05-08-2019 11:11 PM

Sean Mooney has Todd Pettingel on his podcast this week. Lol awesome guest.

Emperor Smeat 05-08-2019 11:22 PM

Apparently WWE laid down the hammer on the two NXT guys who were running a troubled Twitch channel.

Besides known issues with their streams having content that likely would piss off or be borderline unacceptable to WWE, they also ran an infamous donation system that encouraged people to pay to hear insults from wrestlers which led to the Rhea Ripley homophobic slur incident to happen.

The NXT guy who ran the channel pretty much implied its all WWE's fault and instead of making changes to save their channel, he decided to call it quits instead.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-08-2019 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 5250720)
I quoted your posts in the new thread. I don't know how I feel about Lars. I've known about this for a while but it is finally getting some attention. I don't want him to lose his job but at the same time show some remorse for his bigoted views.

Lars can fuck right off with all that bullshit. Apparently WWE has known for a while. I hope this shit blows up in their face and they're forced to shit can that racist sack of shit.

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-08-2019 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5250743)
Sean Mooney has Todd Pettingel on his podcast this week. Lol awesome guest.

If only they could have Cole to round it off and destroy the entire universe.

Droford 05-09-2019 12:01 AM

lol the police questioned Adams about Ginos death cause Gino blinded him with hair cream

i

slik 05-09-2019 01:03 AM

Seth82 getting into it w/ Ryan Satin


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">you've never heard about the story of Gino's death? someone who is a wrestling journalist should probably know it. <a href="https://t.co/F0VovEm4W4">https://t.co/F0VovEm4W4</a></p>&mdash; Wrestling The Way You Remember It! (@SethHanson1982) <a href="https://twitter.com/SethHanson1982/status/1126281737980579840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Why? He was never a huge name in mainstream wrestling and died before I was born. I’m a news reporter not a historian. There’s a difference.</p>&mdash; Ryan Satin (@ryansatin) <a href="https://twitter.com/ryansatin/status/1126327242244550656?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Seth then RTing this

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New rule: if you don't know who Gino Hernandez is you are not allowed to write about professional wrestling.</p>&mdash; Brad Stutts (@Stuttsy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Stuttsy/status/1126287015207686144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Fignuts 05-09-2019 01:12 AM

Dude isn't wrong. If his job is covering current events in wrestling, it's good to have a healthy knowledge of wrestling history, but knowing a guy like Gino Hernandez isn't necessary.

slik 05-09-2019 01:20 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well this is the final blooper on the tape... Lou Albano goes missing for his interview, so Bobby Heenan takes over and, chaos ensues! (also maybe don’t have the kids around when playing this one!) <a href="https://t.co/St3cXecv17">pic.twitter.com/St3cXecv17</a></p>&mdash; Richard Land (@maskedwrestlers) <a href="https://twitter.com/maskedwrestlers/status/1125878115711049728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 7, 2019</a></blockquote>
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slik 05-09-2019 02:00 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So your saying if I do squats in a thong, I’ll get over? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/whatstormbeentokin?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#whatstormbeentokin</a> <a href="https://t.co/BoKIF336MW">https://t.co/BoKIF336MW</a></p>&mdash; Randy Orton (@RandyOrton) <a href="https://twitter.com/RandyOrton/status/1126329296296058880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2019</a></blockquote>
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