The match has happened, and one party isn't really likely to wrestle, but Brock vs. Rock could be huge. They're the two biggest "blockbuster" guys WWE has any sort of tie to. Heyman could cut promos about Brock beating Rock at SummerSlam and that basically forcing Rocky out the door for Hollywood. He'd make appearances, but would never be WWE Champion again until Brock left. There's something there.

The only other ones I can think of involve Shawn Michaels, who wrestled last year, so who fucking knows? Feels like cheating though, lol.

Apart from that, I agree with #1-wwf-fan. And I feel that is a big problem, because dream matches are indicative of a fan's imagination, investment and anticipation. That all the dream matches are locked in the past is a bit sad.

Pretentious fucks that think they know more than they actually do.

Agree.

My life is going great actually.

AJ Styles Undertaker Phenomenal One vs The Phenom

I don’t hate it, but Taker is way past it.

WWE has cancelled the June BACKLASH ppv in San Diego as they have shifted the next Saudi Arabia show to June 7th, which was a week before BACKLASH was scheduled.

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:lol:

Dirty whore of a promotion.

Maybe they should cancel MITB since that seems kinda awkward considering all the money the Saudis gave Vince

There’s definitely some matches I’d like to see; Rollins vs. Styles is one.

Whether I’d trust WWE to frame in correctly is another thing entirely.

I feel like there is also a v good match to be had between Finn and Nakamura. But AJ vs Rollins is for sure my dream match for the current roster.

Their youtube channel has been putting up quite a few of these "last shield match" videos. Starting to wonder if Ambrose leaving is not entirely accurate, have they ever put this much emphasis on a Wrestler leaving before? They're even doing a live event on the network tonight with supposedly the last shield match being a part of the card.

Been way past it for a while now, only takes around 5 minutes of a match and he looks like he needs an oxygen tank.

Yeah, I'm not sold on him "leaving" as in "I'm done here & never gonna wrestle again." I'm more sold on him "leaving" as in "I'm gonna take some time off, let the wifey make some dough, then when everybody least expects it, I'm gonna hit ya with a dirty deeds."

I can totally see 6 months, a year from now, he'll come back unannounced. Depending on what he does, he'll either be a MEGA FACE or a MEGA HEEL. Either way, he'll have mega heat. Wouldn't it be something if he and Punk come back together...!!!

Maybe he completely changes his look and comes back as Moxley

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Lol, it’s been ages since I watched the event as a whole, but didn’t they cut to the party at some point right after Bossman was hung?

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Someone in WWE apparently doesn't know how to count.

This Shield's Final Chapter event on the Network has a women's tag match going on right now but the ring announcer said it was a 6-woman tag match. Problem is only 5 people showed up and turned into a regular 2v2 tag match with no explanation given.

First, Joey Styles isn't good enough to call Backlash, and now, this?!?

Or, just rebrand that name to every Saudi show henceforth. Kinda like how every Insurrexion and Rebellion PPV was in England.

Prob'ly had Alicia Fox booked and didn't pay attention until the last minute.

Foxy hasn't been used since the Arn incident.

I saw fox was at hof but that's it wonder when her contract is up

I actually thought RAW would be good for him, now that SD is so loaded he really could have had a chance to grow into a upper-mid card/main-event heel on RAW.

Prob lost in the shuffle now, but we'll see.


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They could explain 'storyline-wise' they were traded for Samoa Joe, voila~!

Probably a trade for Samoa Joe

Seems Aleister Black got moved to SmackDown too

Yeah


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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">REPORT: John Pollock of POST Wrestling is reporting that Cesaro has moved to RAW as part of this most recent shuffle.</p>&mdash; Les Moore (@prowrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/prowrestling/status/1120418370174763009?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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For a short-lived makeshift team, Black and Ricochet did quite well for themselves.

But I'd rather they end on a high note than be weighed down by stagnant Raw tag division booking, so I'm down with them splitting early.

I wonder if The Uso's will feud w/ The Revival or Zack Ryder/Curt Hawkins

I assume Ryder and Hawkins will be dropping the belts at the next PPV, if not earlier.

Then they'll join the Ascension, B-Team, and Slater/Rhyno in the burgeoning Main Event tag team division.

Cesaro alone?

This is probably his last chance to hit it big going solo. We know he can do it. It's a matter if Vince really gives a damn about him.

Sheamus might just be done altogether. Not only did he recently get a concussion, but he's 41 years old and has been working with spinal stenosis for a year and a half or so.

All things considered, he was clearly working on borrowed time and I feel like they'd have been more likely than not to keep him in a tag team to preserve whatever he has left in the tank.

The Bar splitting up might signal the end of the line for him.

Sheamus was always a solid hand and minus his never-ending feud w/ Del Rio I always enjoyed him. I wish him well and good vibes.

If it’s cos of Fox wanting Latino wrestlers for the market they should have just sent Rey back to Smackdown and kept Andrade on Raw.
I like the Aleister Black trade to Smackdown though , he will work better on there .

Looking at the breakdown of the rosters that Triple A did then there is definitely space for Black to be a mid card face on the show. Interested to see what they do with Andrade on there, if they want him to be that face for the Latino crowd then that tells me there will be a face turn for him in the near future.

Fucking hell.

Seems that's the reason since FOX was upset at losing Rey from the Shakeup and wanted a big name Latino star in return. Charlotte dating El Idolo was also a factor but FOX had the much bigger sway for this decision.

I joked that the Bar vs. Miz and Shane was the greatest demonstration of Cesaro's strength. He carried three men to a good match.

According to Ronda Rousey, her original WWE career plans were to only stick around till November and then leave for a long while to raise a family. After the break, she'd then make a final decision to either continue her career or retire.

Only reason those plans changed were due to WWE rushing to give her the RAW Women's belt last June and promising her a major match as champ at this year's Mania. Everything else remained the same with her taking a lengthy break for family reasons and then considering afterwards if she wants to continue her career or not.

Also seems she's leaning on not signing a new deal once her current contract expires in about 2 years.

I dont get that considering Miz was involved

Lol, The Miz is not someone you send out there to have a good match.

I don't know why you'd move Andrade and Rey in the first place. Dumb move.

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I was thinking how/if I would use Sasha Banks in AEW, should she get out of her WWE contract. I think it would be a nice twist on things if she wants a job, but Brandi turns her down because they don't like her attitude from WWE or whatever. They accept she's got skill, but AEW is doing fine with the women they have. Sasha's ego takes great offense to this, of course. Then what you get is Sasha being a shit and trying to stir things up in AEW her own way. Buying tickets and shit. Hanging out with Snoop in a sky box.

Eventually you get to this point in the story where Sasha thinks she's so dope, she tries to sleep with Cody and edge something over Brandi. She begins sending Cody pictures of herself and begins to allude to there being something going on, which Cody denies. This is all to get Brandi in the ring and make her see how dominant she is first-hand. And to get her, Brandi needs to offer her a big, juicy AEW contract.

Basically it would be kind of like a role reversal swap of Savage/Flair, with Sasha playing the role of Ric and Cody in the Liz role. Sasha is a major shit disturber fucking with a the real boss' marriage.

Thought I'd re-post this in here since I always seem to post in the Raw thread when things have died down. But for the first time in years I'm actually excited by an episode of Raw and where it could be leading the company.

Vince McMahon re-follows CM Punk and AJ Lee on Twitter

ZOMGZ CM PUNK RETURN CONFIRMED

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Why does Kurt always sound like he has a stuffed up nose?

Andrade and Charlotte are engaged. They've only been dating a few months

The sex must be killer.

i'd imagine it's athletic and aggressive

Charlotte is looking to break all Ric’s records; not just his championship wins.

Apparently both Taker and Angle got pulled from Starrcast II because of WWE's involvement.

According to Conrard Thompson, he offered a compromise where Taker would be allowed for Starrcast 2 and in return, he'd donate 100% of the proceeds from Taker's panel to WWE's Conor’s Cure charity and match it with his own donation. WWE rejected the offer since Vince supposedly isn't fond of Taker marketing himself for non-WWE events.

Vince being Vince.

Vince getting a bit more protective.

Lol Turning down direct money to the charity they created for PR purposes. Conrad needs to guarantee that Saudi-level money straight to WWE’s pockets before Vince will whore out one of his guys.

This company is gross.

One of your best bookings I can remember :y::y:

Well... I wish them all the best!

Why, thank you. I can still muster up some sort of engagement when the situation calls for it. Really pulling for AEW. And they've got a chance, because with only 2 hours, they will be able to focus on threads and give them proper development leading to big shows that feel like they've got a purpose, as opposed to clusters thrown together that stretch into the wee hours of the morning.

They really are. On the sly, I think this is a good public move from Conrad. He probably knows he isn't going to get anyone, but this does more to heel WWE and make them a soulless entity. AEW has done lots of little clever moves that would make good PR in contrast to WWE, who are basically whores for the immediate dollar grab.

If wrestling actually gets some attention in slow news weeks when Smackers moves to FOX and AEW launches, and people want to write about it, then it's going to be pretty easy for journalists to portray AEW as rising babyfaces against the cold corporate empire that secretly still hates its female employees, has a history of racism and tokenism, and accepts sacks of money from the Saudi government while aware that it is tasteless.

Some of the smartest things AEW have done are around starting a promotion in the tones that they have.

What's the younger female version of space mountain?

Nathan’s Hot Dog Eating Championship

I wonder if AEW landed on VICELAND if that would be seen as a big time spot? It's become a basic cable channel I believe so most people do have it, I mean my parents have it... direct tv now has it on the basic list... It's a dope channel (lol).

I just want to say aloud on the internet ....

Thank god we have Jim Cornette.

i don't know that gets in pursuit land

ROH is on a basic cable channel and it's virtually nothing.

She's already divorced once as well, learning well from the old man.

2x

Even worse. :eek:

She just confirmed that they're not engaged.

Yet....:shifty:

I'd be cool w/ that

As long as they don't end up on something cheesy like TruTV I'll be cool w/ whatever.

Probably not since based on some quick reading, it doesn't seem to have a big national reach and struggles to maintain younger viewers for its viewerbase.

Their average for primetime shows last year was around the 100k range.

If Lashley were ever to face Lesnar it should have been in at "The Greatest Royal Rumble" in that cage match Roman was in.

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For a person who was already in hot water with ROH management over them hating his "invading" spot at G1 Supercard and the negative fan backlash it generated, posting a video trashing both ROH and NJPW was a really dumb decision.

For some reference, neither him nor Cass are signed to ROH contracts and seems ROH no longer has any interest for them to work in more shows.

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Watching “Smack Em Up” on Prime Video.

johnny time traveler

who cant forget his epic match with lord steven regal or stunning steve austin, or the time he finally won the big one vs sting

watching the vice doc on Bruiser Brody

I know the basics about him and his deathbut itll be mostly new to me
already neat since they got Foley involved

Never remember Abdullah the Butcher talking so this is weird, his head is freaky

didn't know Brody played for the Redskins

Mad respect for Tony Atlas seeing this..

Abdullah a liar oof

that was better than the montreal one..

He owned a Rib place out in Atlanta. I told a friend who ate there that I wouldn't trust the Silverware.

I want a friend as nice as Tony Atlas.

He made the practice squad

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">McMahon added that it is a &quot;whole new beginning&quot; come the end of September with new TV deals kicking off and unprecedented promotional opportunities through Fox Sports &amp; NBC Universal</p>&mdash; John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1121430767156875265?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I could see WWE treating the end of September almost as an entire 'relaunch' of sorts.

This sounds like fuzzy math to me...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Co-President George Barrios uses this slide to defend WWE viewership declines, showing WWE viewership is higher than any major sports league except NASCAR. <br>Investor presentation: <a href="https://t.co/bRlHx3tmR0">https://t.co/bRlHx3tmR0</a> <a href="https://t.co/e4Isuv5Rfn">pic.twitter.com/e4Isuv5Rfn</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Howard Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1121431318297042944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">McMahon: &quot;Ronda did an extraordinary job for us. Her job was to bring the entire women's division up&quot;.</p>&mdash; John Pollock (@iamjohnpollock) <a href="https://twitter.com/iamjohnpollock/status/1121433207281311745?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This should finally shut up all the people who rush to defend how the 1 million less live viewers from this time last year all must be watching some other way.

Some are, sure. Some just quit watching altogether.


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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">WWE Shop, live events, and merchandise blamed on those live events all down.</p>&mdash; Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1121435243741945857?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This is good news however, (imo) social media is the easiest and most visual way to grow the brand.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On the flip side of viewing figures across all mediums being down and live events attendance and merchandise sales being down for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> this is good news. Easiest and most visual way to grow the brand is social media (imo). <a href="https://t.co/tzKWM4fKfw">https://t.co/tzKWM4fKfw</a></p>&mdash; Kenton (@Kenton_la) <a href="https://twitter.com/Kenton_la/status/1121438547066728449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Paid and total subscribers following Wrestlemania 35 was down versus last year's Wrestlemania. This was also the first year WWE chose not to give a Monday morning subscriber update following Mania.<br>p. 4: <a href="https://t.co/QmXHo8EFTz">https://t.co/QmXHo8EFTz</a> <a href="https://t.co/RwSd550I3b">pic.twitter.com/RwSd550I3b</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Howard Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1121415064479834112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Summary of Conference call:


* WWE down about 8 million $ from last year.

* Vince blames lower attendance, merchandise sales, network subscriptions,tv ratings and youtube views on top stars being out of action.

* Network will be relaunched w/ tiered pricing before end of 2019. Fans possibly have option to vote for HOF/buy tickets early at most expensive tier.

* Vince was glad Ronda helped elevate the women's division during her time in WWE, it was what he hired her to do.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Compared to the 1st quarter of last year, net income reflected a loss of $8.4 million, revenue was down over $5 million, domestic ratings declined 14% for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> and 13% for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a>, average attendance in North America declined 11%. So, what’s the elephant in the room? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://t.co/gz7m8LummB">https://t.co/gz7m8LummB</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1121421356531367936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I understand the method of house shows. I get it. At the same time, it's the same old predictability that goes on. The Attitude Era had title changes THAT STUCK on some of those house shows. Don't give the same matches that people see on TV. Run mini tournaments to where someone faces a champion at the end of a show.

Nascar is getting the shit kicked out of it in live attendance though I wouldn't brag

I think that's a good idea @Splaya

I think it would also help if tickets were less expensive. I know WWE really has racked up the cost of the best seats, even for house shows. If someone wanted to bring their kids and try to get their kids into WWE it'd be pretty expensive and easier to just take the kids to The Avengers, which is less expensive.