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Evil Vito 07-01-2020 08:11 AM

Ugh Kitamura. Very unfortunate circumstances. I think they were going to skip the excursion period for him given his advanced age as a Young Lion, and he was gonna be pushed as a big deal fairly quickly.

Emperor Smeat 07-01-2020 05:42 PM

Yeah him doing a "Best Of" Challenge series prior to his accident felt like that was meant to be his excursion phase without having to leave NJPW due to his age.

Emperor Smeat 07-03-2020 01:09 PM

Identity of the Grand Master character got revealed at today's New Japan Cup Semi-finals event.

SPOILER: show
Rumors of Hirai Kawato being the person ended up being true.

Will be using the ring name of Master Wato going forward.

Also he got beaten up by DOUKI shortly after making his debut.

Emperor Smeat 07-03-2020 10:25 PM

Maybe its just the arena setup or camera placements used but the ring for the first Lion's Break Collision show looks tiny.

Like training ring or lower indies running in Bingo halls tier in terms of smallness.

Emperor Smeat 07-03-2020 11:01 PM

Debut episode was pretty enjoyable overall.

Nothing that was really "must watch" status if you missed it but if the debut is any indication, the series is going to be a nice and enjoyable sub-hour show for some late night wrestling and getting rid of the taste of a bad Smackdown episode for weeks where that happens.

slik 07-04-2020 03:31 AM

Good new gear for Karl Fredericks

ClockShot 07-10-2020 06:30 PM

Probably zip through the remaining Cup matches over the weekend then watch Dominion sometime next week.

SPOILER: show
EVIL & Okada for the Cup final. I know there's a rumor early in the year that EVIL was getting a push. I wonder if this is it. Could see him beating Okada but going down to Naito. Really can't see Okada winning and facing Naito again only for him to lose again.

Evil Vito 07-10-2020 09:32 PM

G1 gonna be a fuckin mess this year if they can’t get the foreigners back. Bullet Club would basically be a non-factor with Jay White and KENTA being stuck in Florida.

Emperor Smeat 07-10-2020 10:19 PM

Apparently there is a wrestler named The DKC and just like Gino Gambino mentioned when he first heard it, Donkey Kong Country was the first thing to come to my mind over those initials. Turns out that's not his name.

Also the ref during this match is sporting a pretty decent looking mustache.

Emperor Smeat 07-10-2020 10:39 PM

Danny Limelight vs. TJP was pretty good.

So far 2 episodes in and NJPW's Lion's Break Collision show has been enjoyable overall. Nothing really worth going out of your way to watch but for a 40 minute or so show, it has some quality action and also flows well. The post-match promos could use a ton of work though.

Filthy Tom Lawlor vs. Rocky Romero on next week's show should be very good.

Emperor Smeat 07-10-2020 11:16 PM

Minoru Suzuki got pulled from both of NJPW's big shows this weekend due to coronavirus concerns.

According to NJPW, he developed a fever earlier today and based on recent testing results, he might not have caught the coronavirus but they are taking no chances with him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJPW
On July 10, Minoru Suzuki developed a fever, and as a cautionary measure, will not be present for the New Japan Cup or Dominion events on July 11 & 12.

Since wrestling on July 3, where Coronavirus antibody and antigen testing all showed negative, Suzuki has had no contact with any other wrestlers.

As a result of Suzuki’s absence, the following change has been made on tonight’s New Japan Cup final card:

5th Match

Ryusuke Taguchi, Yuji Nagata, Kota Ibushi & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Minoru Suzuki, El Desperado, Taichi & Zack Sabre Junior –>

Ryusuke Taguchi, Yuji Nagata, Kota Ibushi & Hiroshi Tanahashi vs Yoshinobu Kanemaru, El Desperado, Taichi & Zack Sabre Junior

https://www.njpw1972.com/76934

Emperor Smeat 07-11-2020 04:44 AM

Think DOUKI managed to get a bigger reaction for his entrance than Master Wato did.

Not sure if Wato's theme simply just drowned out whatever reaction he got or the crowd didn't really care that much for his entrance.

Crowd's been very receptive of him during this match though which is a good sign.

Emperor Smeat 07-11-2020 05:12 AM

Not sure Yujiro biting SANADA's hand and SANADA doing the same to Yujiro counts as following NJPW's coronavirus health safety rules.

Emperor Smeat 07-11-2020 05:31 AM

Either Nagata has some weird looking bruising on his back or he might have gone overboard with the hot cupping massage since his back looks like a Connect 4 board game.

Fignuts 07-11-2020 05:33 AM

Holy shit, it doesn't get much more embarrassing than making your big return in a goofy outfit and getting beaten up by Douki of all people.

Emperor Smeat 07-11-2020 06:42 AM

Ouch at Okada's back crashing right through a pile of chairs.

Also ouch at his nuts moments earlier from EVIL's vicious attack in his quest for Okada to not have any kids in the future.

Emperor Smeat 07-11-2020 06:50 AM

:eek: at that twist during the Okada vs EVIL match.

SPOILER: show
Gedo and Yujiro cumming out to help EVIL and throwing that tease of him potentially joining Bullet Club in the future.

Emperor Smeat 07-11-2020 06:54 AM

Poor Okada's nuts. Got pulverized again by EVIL.

:eek:

SPOILER: show
EVIL beat Okada to win this year's Cup.

Also EVIL ended up turning on Naito and joined Bullet Club during the post-match festivities.


Okada vs. EVIL was amazing.

New Japan Cup 2020 Finals was very good overall. Only real weak point was the DOUKI vs. Master Wato match.

Evil Vito 07-11-2020 09:21 AM

Welp

SPOILER: show
That solves the issue of no Bullet Club presence this year with White and KENTA unavailable

slik 07-11-2020 12:44 PM

Wow @ shocking turn!

Emperor Smeat 07-12-2020 02:54 AM

:lol: at Wato getting beaten up again after a match.

Sort of hope that becomes a running gag for him for a while.

Emperor Smeat 07-12-2020 03:11 AM

Wow at the result for the Hirooki Goto & Kazuchika Okada vs. Taiji Ishimori & Yujiro Takahashi.

SPOILER: show
Ishimori & Yujiro beat Goto & Okada.

Sure there were some shenanigans by Gedo near the end but didn't think they'd actually pull it off.

Also might be teasing a potential Okada & Naito friendship to take down Bullet Club

Emperor Smeat 07-12-2020 03:46 AM

NEVER Openweight title match was amazingly and best match since NJPW came back from their coronavirus break.

Emperor Smeat 07-12-2020 04:25 AM

Tag title match was great.

SPOILER: show
Tanahashi got utterly destroyed by Sabre Jr and Taichi during the last few minutes of that match.

Emperor Smeat 07-12-2020 04:42 AM

EVIL's new entrance theme and look is pretty cool.

Went from being a spooky horror guy to now being a rock/metal band guy.

Emperor Smeat 07-12-2020 04:53 AM

:eek: at EVIL beating up his #1 fan Milano

Emperor Smeat 07-12-2020 05:06 AM

Yikes at Naito's knee after that table spot.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">GODDAMN!! Kneecrusher through a table from EVIL <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJPW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NJPW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njdominion?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njdominion</a> <a href="https://t.co/KQXMsaKIPy">https://t.co/KQXMsaKIPy</a> <a href="https://t.co/0vQdHdJdhW">pic.twitter.com/0vQdHdJdhW</a></p>&mdash; SirLARIATO (@SirLARIATO) <a href="https://twitter.com/SirLARIATO/status/1282239731456249856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 07-12-2020 05:30 AM

HOLY SHIT!!!

SPOILER: show
EVIL beat Naito to win the Double gold.

Last couple minutes involved some brutal looking hits to the head by both guys, LIJ and BC shennigans, Naito's nuts getting smooshed, and a fake BUSHI to top it all


Wait what ...
SPOILER: show
BC just got another new member who was the masked fake BUSHI ... Dick Togo

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So that’s why Evil has been hitting people in the dick. The signs were there. Solid storytelling. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJDominion?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NJDominion</a></p>&mdash; GRAPPLgareth (@GRAPPLgareth) <a href="https://twitter.com/GRAPPLgareth/status/1282245861981016064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

:lol:


Also the next potential IWGP double title match sounds amazing if it actually happens.

SPOILER: show
Hiromu challenged EVIL for the belts.


Dominion was great overall. Last 3-4 matches were fantastic.

Emperor Smeat 07-12-2020 05:46 AM

Considering how crazy 2020 has been so far, that IWGP Double title match might be the perfect representation of it.

Mr. Nerfect 07-12-2020 05:56 AM

SPOILER: show
The decision to go with EVIL is pretty exciting. It's a good time to do some interesting stuff while other promotions are sitting pretty. EVIL's only 33 years old. It's a big push up the card and I'm sure people will remember it, even if he doesn't become a permanent player like Okada, Tanahashi, Naito, etc. But it feels interesting, and he might just stick. Now he's actually a triple champion, isn't he? That makes him seem even more special, even if just for a fleeting moment in time.

And it makes sense to put him over to make the New Japan Cup consequential in later years, and to really sell EVIL's turn. Gedo is pretty good at making wrestlers who go into business for themselves stand out for a while to make their turns more effective. He's made stars out of Okada and White by joining up with them, and now EVIL's turned heel and joined the BC and it's worked out for him too.

Fignuts 07-12-2020 07:53 AM

poor Sanada

ClockShot 07-12-2020 08:58 AM

SPOILER: show
EVIL's on the phone with Io Shirai right now doing his best Rocky Balboa impersonation.

"YO IO! I DID IT!"

Ultra Mantis 07-12-2020 05:04 PM

Wow, what the fuck. Not sure how I feel about this.
SPOILER: show
Other than BETRAYAL.

slik 07-12-2020 07:02 PM

Sanada going to win the title at Wrestle Kingdom

Mr. Nerfect 07-12-2020 09:40 PM

Maybe. I can see them wrestling, but it doesn't even need to be for the belt.

Evil Vito 07-13-2020 11:18 AM

My main guess as to why EVIL was chosen for this ahead of SANADA or Shingo is that A) EVIL is, well, evil, so it makes sense for him to turn....but moreover, B) EVIL is the only Dojo trueborn of those three. It's not a hard and fast rule that you have to be a trueborn to get a massive push but I do think there's a longstanding sense of loyalty there.

The company rarely ever releases trueborns, usually they either leave on their own or retire to injury. Captain New Japan/original Bone Solider being the one exception because of legendary awfulness.

Even guys like YOSHI-HASHI and Yujiro Takahashi have jobs for life even when they're not really doing anything, and Yujiro's now getting elevated out of necessity since Bullet Club has so many members out of the country.

Evil Vito 07-13-2020 11:25 AM

If there's any real concern I have...it's that I've enjoyed EVIL the best when he's working shorter, smashmouth NEVER title style matches. When he has to work longer matches in the G1 and stuff his style seems kinda slow and ponderous. But in this role he's gonna be expected to work 25-30 minute NJPW main event style.

Would love to see them change the pace with him and let him work a NEVER-style match with Ishii as a main event title defense.

Fignuts 07-13-2020 02:51 PM

Yeah their loyalty to trueborns is my biggest gripe with NJPW. Like, it's understandable to a point, but they pass on too many oppurtunities imo.

Case in point: Sanada

I honestly don't really buy EVIL as champ. He's always been solid, but his really good singles matches are few and far between. IWGP champion to me, is someone who consistently puts on barn burners with everyone. I don't see EVIL as that guy.

Emperor Smeat 07-13-2020 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5358237)
Even guys like YOSHI-HASHI and Yujiro Takahashi have jobs for life even when they're not really doing anything, and Yujiro's now getting elevated out of necessity since Bullet Club has so many members out of the country.

Wonder if they are going to redo the Bullet Club Civil War storyline once their foreign wrestlers come back since with EVIL and Dick Togo now joining, they have enough Japanese BC guys to be their own separate stable.

Depending on which side you believe, the original storyline's demise was either due to NJPW being completely off guard by the Elite leaving or they knew well beforehand but were unwilling to speed up the storyline for the big payoff and just dropped it instead.

Jordan 07-13-2020 07:36 PM

Holy shit I didn't realize that Evil won the double gold!


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