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I imagine they'll at least do a Beach Bash Dynamite.
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510k is the number being reported for the latest AEW viewership. Meltzer is still sucking their dick. The mental gymnastics run deep.
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Turns out 510k was too big. Closer to 501k.
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That's probably a good indicator of what Rampage will do in that same Friday timeslot, about 400-500k on average.
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If that. Rampage is probably going to take a hit as the secondary show. Either that or they can go all hands in on it and hurt Dynamite.
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And that isn’t for some time now. Numbers will likely drop between now and then.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What's the deal with "Sports Entertainment" <a href="https://t.co/fDOdgzM3za">https://t.co/fDOdgzM3za</a> <a href="https://t.co/XbQKzIqaF2">pic.twitter.com/XbQKzIqaF2</a></p>— Dick Van Klondike (@DickVanKlondike) <a href="https://twitter.com/DickVanKlondike/status/1399232184641372162?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For those of you wondering....Yes me and Mark Henry had a long in depth conversation last night. Looking forward to the future.</p>— Lio Rush (@TheLionelGreen) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheLionelGreen/status/1399470129839177729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 31, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Because I tweeted about AEW a few times, I now see "suggested tweets" related to it. Most of it's shit I don't care about and scroll right by.
But there's an account that posts "why is every episode of Dynamite the best episode of Dynamite" every week. I want to believe they're taking the piss, but rasslin Twitter is full of people who can't criticize one company or the other. It's really weird. |
That's Andy Nemmity. He and his wife, Amy Nemmity, go to every AEW PPV. They are really nice on twitter and joke around a lot. They run the website WrestleJoy.
They are huge marks tho too, as you can see from Amy wearing her AEW shirt to get vaccinated. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FULLY VACCINATED!!!!! ������<br><br>Seems fitting to wear my AEW shirt while getting vaccinated before Double Or Nothing! I'm SO excited! <br><br>But even more, I'm excited to do my part to protect myself, my family, and my community against COVID-19! LFG! Science RULES! �� <a href="https://t.co/SqKEqp26FS">pic.twitter.com/SqKEqp26FS</a></p>— ��Phoenix�� (@AmyNemmity) <a href="https://twitter.com/AmyNemmity/status/1390728974863503361?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Good for them for enjoying something together.
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I think I follow her or she follows me or something. Have definitely seen her before. Never made the connection though. Good for them :y:
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Probably got injected with Meltzer Sheep Juice
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Those damn sheep,,,,,,
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MARK FUCKING HENRY
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My ex watched last year's Revolution with me (little did we know the world would shut down like 2 weeks later). She'd never watch wrestling full time but as a one off show she got a kick out of it.
Dating someone who tolerates wrestling is one thing but idk how I'd fare with a superfan. I saw a girl on a dating app where all her pics were wrestling related (wearing wrestling shirts, her with a replica belt, cosplaying as Bayley etc). I mean hey good for them doing what they like....but the idea of having to sit through Raw every week on date nights feels bleak. |
Awesome Kong and Shanna's contracts have expired. Kong hasn't been around since before the pandemic but I was wondering if she'd turn up as a surprise entrant in the women's battle royal at All Out, her first AEW run ended with that awful Nightmare Collective angle.
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More bummed about Shanna.
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Yeah Kong is pretty immobile these days but Shanna seemed better than most of the other girls on the roster.
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Shanna was supposedly a bit of a shithead to the extras they were bringing in to wrestle her on Dark. Toss in that she already had some heat on her last year for making Islamophobic posts on social media and I’m not too surprised she wasn’t renewed.
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Oh, Rampage is a new show..... seen a few posts about AEW and "the Rampage deal" and assumed that AEW had signed former TNA Superstar Rampage Jackson
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I wonder what the excuses will be this week for Dynamite? Obviously they’ve got the NBA and dead time slot (which they earned for themselves). But I actually heard people using Covid being over as an excuse for poor ratings the other week. Covid was used as the reason the ratings were low by the same people. And for some reason this never applies to the WWE.
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It's Friday at 10pm, nobody is expecting Wednesday night numbers.
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LOL HOLY SHIT!!! They gave freaking Andrade creative control and veto power over the match finishes!
That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of from AEW. Let me say that again... AEW gave ANDRADE creative control and veto power in his contract. Andrade. Andrade gets to call his own shots. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: |
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"There was a compromise made..." Damn bro calm down on the "facts". I got some ocean front property in Arizona if you're interested.
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Wanting to work for other companies while at the same time wanting any degree of creative control is having your cake and eating it too. AEW should have told him to fuck off.
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well he is not going to get the belt any time soon, he might get the AAA belt from kenny. an let him diva out in AAA, an beat jobbers in aew an control that.
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This thing looks more and more like WCW all the time. The inmates running the asylum. Creative control all over the place. Let’s be real — if Andrade didn’t put that into his deal, he’d still have been allowed to do whatever.
Only, unlike with WCW, there are no executives to fire the “Eric Bischoff” in this situation. This is like if Eric Bischoff’s daddy owned WCW. Only this one was never cool. |
I’m still holding out hope beyond hope that someone else throws their hat into the wrestling game. There is enough free agent talent out there. A working agreement with New Japan is possible if you just present yourself within the realm of sports. There are even “stars” that are technically free agents right now. Brock Lesnar, Bryan Danielson, CM Punk and Samoa Joe come to mind. It’s very possible to put together one super-compelling show every week that would smoke anything out there.
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Can you please fantasy book 1 month of said show in ARMCHAIR WARFARE style?
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The real numbers for Revolution and Double or Nothing came out and Meltzer got “busted” for inflating them. “Busted” is in quotation marks, because it really depends on whether you think Meltzer is being dishonest on purpose, if he’s being misled, or his maths is just “optimistic.” His inflation rate is about 16%, so it’s up to you whether you feel that “reporting” should come under fire or not.
Personally, I think Meltzer’s coverage of AEW has been horrible. He’s deliberately confusing. I see people talking about 132k like it’s the US buyrate, not realizing that not only was it closer to 115k, but that is inclusive of international buys. There’s a reason he’s never clear on that. 132k sounds way more impressive than 75k North American buys. And then you can’t say they did better than any promotion since WCW, since ECW used to smash that on the reg. I know he’s been nice to hb2k and all that, but as a wrestling reporter, he’s really lost it. More often than not I see a report about WWE from him and know the truth is probably in the opposite direction. His insight into “AEW vs. NXT” was fanboyish and juvenile, and his flat-out bias towards AEW has led to omissions and glaringly false or inaccurate reporting that is clear bullshit to anyone who applies a few seconds of critical thought. I don’t even think Dave is taking a pay check for this. I don’t think he needs one. I’m not sure if it’s just to coddle subscribers and the markish anti-WWE/pro-AEW sentiment, or whether he’s just being misled all the time and his WWE sources have dried up, but I think he’s just...lost it. He’s a fan/commentator who likes what he likes, and what he likes isn’t very good. |
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Brandon Thurston and WrestleNomics are the ones sharing the Meltzer melting numbers, for those curious. I don’t think they’re trying to bury Dave, but I don’t how you can see Meltzer being so high on both Double or Nothing and Revolution and still give the guy any benefit of the doubt when it comes to his “data” or assumptions based off it.
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Good Noid post :y:
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How would you suggest or like to see AEW book Mark Henry and Paul Wight if/when they do an in ring program?
I think for Wight the key program would be MJF. It would be a good story for MJF once the Inner Circle story is finished. I could see some fun back and forth in promos and angles, wight could face off against the other Pinnacle members on his way to MJF. Maybe even have Wardlow go over with MJF causing some kind of screwjob for Wardlow which would culminate in a big one on one at a ppv with Wight and MJF. With Mark Henry, he tends to work great as a heel so I'd probably want to see him start something with Jurassic Express, or perhaps a version of David vs Goliath with Darby. Similar to Nash vs the X Division. Also a big battle with Miro would interest me, same with Archer. Perhaps I'm a little more intrigued by Henry than Wight when it comes to in ring. Probably because a heel version of either guy is better for booking, and Henry is more likely to play heel. |
Also just want to say that I really want to see Christian get a match against Kenny at some point. Hopefully this summer. Maybe after Kenny goes over Jungle Boy by the skin of his teeth.
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I want both of them to [separately] launch Marko Stunt into the 15th row
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Brandon Cutler should be repackaged as Christian's heel manager
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Christian doesn't need a manager. He should be his own heel manager.
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But if Cutler was his heel manager he could wear a similar cape to the ring that Cutler does...it's all about the capes, bro
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I dunno what you do with Henry honestly. Having him work with Miro was my first thought too, and it isn't a bad idea but I feel like a lot of people might get that WWE stink from it. Maybe something with Hangman (although I think he would be better served working with Christian)? Henry definitely would have to play the old monster heel angle, but he can do that easily. Wouldn't mind seeing Mark work a program with Wardlow either. |
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They’re finally free to be themselves, but are just happy to be in the promotion run by such wrestling luminaries as The Young Bucks, who they idolized on the circuit.
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In more “Dave Meltzer’s balls are for busting” news: Dave was going on one of his “Well, ACTUALLY...” soaps on Twitter and, of all people, drunken ass Chris Jericho came in to correct Dave, possibly not realizing that Dave’s whole agenda was to make AEW look like some sort of promised land.
It was in regards to talent choosing AEW over WWE. Basically, Dave said that all the talent had chosen to leave WWE for AEW, except for Brodie Lee, but he was released when his contract was expiring, so it was definitely his choice. Rusev was in the same boat but Meltzer missed that. Jericho’s correction was that he hadn’t been under contract with the WWE for 18 months by the time he signed with AEW. It’s not a giant thing, like conflating PPV numbers, lying about their creative, lying about the New Japan relations, etc. But it’s just more in the pattern of this guy either no longer having a clue or being so far in AEW’s corner that he will just spin anything. “The second least good match on the show.” |
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In wrestling sure, but not "in any industry". Just can't give that to you. But I also don't really care that much, so whatever.
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So Noid still follows Dave Meltzer and still watches AEW. Probably the least surprising news of the day.
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Lately I’ve been going over 2002 SmackDown stuff. I remember watching a lot of it at the time, and obviously some of it has been mythologized over the years, so you feel like you’ve seen it even if you haven’t. But holy fuck. I had somehow forgotten how good Kurt Angle was. How good Chris Benoit was. How good Eddie Guerrero was. Like...you know, but sometimes you need to actually see it again.
Eddie Guerrero vs. Edge in the No DQ Match and Angle vs. Benoit vs. Guerrero vs. Edge, both from SmackDown, kind of have that modern “keep the pace going” mentality. You can see where the modern guys have plucked it from. But they just don’t have the *intensity* or the psychological focus that these guys had. I bring this up in the AEW thread just because we’re talking about Meltzer. It’s ridiculous that Kurt Angle has never had a five star match, as good as he is. Yeah, it’s just the guy’s opinion. But it’s a bad take. Watch Angle wrestle and then go and watch Omega. They’re two entirely different leagues. |
Friday Nights are a disaster, IDK why they bumped them there for a month. Were TruTV or TBS not an option for Wednesdays for a month?
Hopefully this kills the idea of Rampage being a Friday night show. They'll lose some momentum from this when they get back to Wednesday nights and will have to load up that first show back. Really moronic move to put them on Fridays at 10pm for a month. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW Dynamite drew 462,000 total viewers on Friday night 6/4, down from prior week.</p>— Pro Wrestling Torch (@PWTorch) <a href="https://twitter.com/PWTorch/status/1402016403289477128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Wow, AEW possibly on the chopping block?
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Emperor Smeat probably in hiding because he doesn't want to face the numbers.
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Impact Wrestling on Destination America now outdrawing AEW
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WHAT'S WCAEW DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE!?
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So much for that Smackdown lead in...
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Shida has short hair now
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ja" dir="ltr">New Shida is here ��<br><br>※Don’t use this pic for your profile etc. without editing for making clear it’s me��<br>※この写真をこのままプロフィール等に使用するのはご遠慮ください��<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NewProfiePic?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NewProfiePic</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/%E6%96%B0%E3%81%97%E3%81%84%E3%83%97%E3%83%AD%E3%83%95%E3%82%A3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F? src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#新しいプロフィール画像</a> <a href="https://t.co/sJ2S21Tsem">pic.twitter.com/sJ2S21Tsem</a></p>— HIKARU SHIDA 志田 光 (@shidahikaru) <a href="https://twitter.com/shidahikaru/status/1402059741615034370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Lol, Meltzer said the Dynamite numbers were “up significantly” from last week. Turns out they are down significantly. Whoops. AEW flopping fucking HARD on Friday nights. And make no mistake about it — there’s no magical fix for the damage this is doing. People just don’t give a shit.
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AEW about to drop below Cornette’s podcast numbers.
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Just got an email Bleacher Report Live is going away and being replaced with Bleacher Report....I wonder if this means I'll lose access to the ppvs I can currently rewatch I have paid for in the past...hmmm
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We'll see if it happens...
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Don’t worry! We’ll be migrating your purchases and archival content over to B/R, where it’ll live as long as our agreement with AEW continues. More details on when those events will be available to watch soon! <a href="https://t.co/iskSawas18">https://t.co/iskSawas18</a></p>— BR Support (@BRLiveSupport) <a href="https://twitter.com/BRLiveSupport/status/1402374452093067269?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Wow, AEW being dumped by their PPV carrier due to poor ratings
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The male version of Kylie Ray strikes again
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lio Rush has confirmed his retirement from professional wrestling, citing a recent injury as the reason.<br><br>Rush says he’ll fulfil his final NJPW obligations after healing from his injury, and notes that AEW wanted to sign him after his Double or Nothing appearance.</p>— Gary Cassidy (@WrestlingGary) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingGary/status/1402433975386312704?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Jesus.
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That guys brain.
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Every time Moxely no sells a move, an angel gets its wings!
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I wanna do one of them graphic porno's with Shida where Pornhub has to blur her face out.
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You all know what i'm talking about. Dont act like you dont.
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I don’t. When I think of Shida doing porn it’s the ones where the cock is blurred out.
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Probably a China thing? I dont know. I dont want to be racist atm.
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So...is AEW going to TruTV or is it going to be flat-out cancelled?
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Zicky Dice got Murder-Hawked on Dark. Signing him would be a good get.
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I wish AEW was on . . . . .
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Hope this week's show isn't as sloppy and as much of a mess as the last 2 weeks!!!
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Tired of Friday night Dynamite. Will this be the last week of this crap? I much prefer the regular Wednesday night timeslot. It's something to sorta look forward to mid week.
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You and 200k people. It will die soon and hopefully smarter people can do more with less.
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Yooooooo this got me hyped for a squash match
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let’s talk Friday <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> <a href="https://t.co/37aq5OlEQB">pic.twitter.com/37aq5OlEQB</a></p>— Miro (@ToBeMiro) <a href="https://twitter.com/ToBeMiro/status/1402662212662087680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 9, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Lol, stopped at “...Evil Uno...” Horrible.
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The card this week looks horrible:
* Miro vs. Evil Uno * Leyla Hirsch vs. Nyla Rose * Adam Page & “10” (fucking hell) vs. Brian Cage & Will Hobbs * Christian Cage vs. Angelico * The Young Bucks & Brandon Cutler vs. PAC, Pentagon & Eddie Kingston * Lance Archer squash * Inner Circle talkie segment * Sting & Darby Allin talkie segment * Cody Rhodes talkie segment Who wants to watch this shit? All three advertized talking bits feel like repeats. People all over the internet are groaning about ANOTHER underwhelming Cody bit. Darby Allin has to choose someone as a partner that isn’t Sting, when people are supposed to be emotionally connected to Sting, so people don’t really WANT that to happen. Plus this feud is STILL going, has made the heels look shit and was all about putting Sting over. If it was about making Darby look good, he’d be elsewhere now. He had to sell to carry Sting’s old ass and now Sting is being treated like the bad-ass in the group. Who gives a flying fuck about Lance Hoyt? When has he actually ever won anything important? Didn’t the WWE used to get shit for building its “monsters” like this? Plus, he’s 50. The Young Bucks suck, Brandon Cutler sucks, Pentagon is overrated and Kingston always feels like he is shoe-horned in to whatever it is he’s doing. This is a horrible mash. Angelico is only known for jumping off that thing in Lucha Underground. He has been in AEW since the start and no one cares. Yay for Christian vs. Matt Hardy in 2021. This sucked in 2010. Team Taz are fucking losers. Adam Page has been booked into irrelevancy and AEW fans will not admit it. This dude headlined their first All Out show. Remember all that “potential?” That was almost 2 years ago. Now he’s teaming with the AEW equivalent of The Blue Meanie. You know what’s a good idea? Bring in Andrade and stick him with Vickie Guerrero, so people can remember Eddie Guerrero and just how not that good or over Andrade is. But then we give Andrade creative control so he doesn’t have to lose and we can jam him down people’s throats while they’re thinking about how not good he is. And THEN we can keep Vickie managing a woman we are just about done with abs only hired for PR reasons and is going to lose to the current champ just to make Vickie look like a boob anyway. THIS FUCKING COMPANY! You know what would have been smarter? Having Vickie dump Nyla for Andrade, that pissing off Nyla, and THAT being her instigation to get back into the title hunt. But that takes 5 seconds of thought. Then you’ve got “Marvellous” Marc Miro — actual mark and ratings loser — getting the main event slot with the mid-card belt against a fat comedy jobber from the indies. They’ve somehow taken Rusev, made him more of a joke, made him even more mid-card than he’s ever been, but somehow also convince him and fans that they’re using him better. Amazing. They’ll be lucky if they get 400k for this bad episode of Jakked masquerading as their A show. I’ve seen people assume that fans are going to flock back when they go back to Wednesday. Just like they were supposed to flock back when the crowds came. Not everybody is going to come back, and ratings were not impressive as it was. Some people are going to get out of the habit of watching, not miss this shit, feel insulted, get bored or simply stop caring. They will try their little hearts out to hot-shot, but what do they even have? Jericho vs. MJF? Omega vs. Andrade? Christian vs. Matt Hardy? Big Show debuts? Lol. Yes, Friday nights is a dead slot. But that’s the slot they’ve earned for themselves. If they were higher priority, they’d be in a higher priority slot. Them not performing well isn’t good. The most you can squeeze out of it as that some viewers of AEW did have a social life. But that social life may not include AEW going forward, and ultimately didn’t affect how advertisers saw them. They’re fucking chewing up people’s brain space with subpar wrestling content that is just wearing more and more people thin. A few hardcore wrestling nerds on the internet lap it up, because their standards are low or whatever, but they are ultimately doing damage to the genre by propping up this off-putting content that makes people rightly think that this shit is fucking dead. You all know I’m 100% correct. |
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He is wrong. He's saying people took offense to HHH saying that WWE is where everyone wants to be and where all the best workers are. FFS Tony and multiple people at AEW say the same shit about AEW all the time. About how they are the best, everyone wants to be there, blah blah blah. It's the same shit. That comment exposes Tony again as a raging hypocrite.
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