There is no Batman from the sounds of it. Probably no Ace Chemicals, either. Or Red Hood for that matter.

Umm, yeah, I just read the film is called Joker. I didn't know that. I thought this was gonna be this solo Batman movie Affleck was supposed to direct.

I'm wondering if he gets the traditional Joker makeup later. The outfit is dead on. Kinda surreal this is happening. Read that a Joker Harley spinoff script was turned in today

Yeah Leto Joker still lives.

I like how joker/harley joker is younger than the jokee origin story

I find it oddly confusing and I wonder how the general audience will take to having such a notable character being represented by two different actors with different takes at that same time

Perhaps WB believes the audience is ready for such a thing that comics and animation fans already got used to. Personally would not have been my call since it's absolutely gonna cause brand confusion.

Last I heard they're not connected. Only Leto is part of the DCU canon.

People want cannon not what if.

A very similar issue was raised by fans when George Miller's Justice League movie was in pre-production during (what we thought would be) an ongoing SuperRouth *and* BatBale series, for potentially three concurrent DC movie-verses.

That's fucked up.

Let us not forget Matt Reeves' Batman is coming, which has gotten conflicting reports on whether it's canon or standalone. Certain seems to be its own thing much like the Bale Batman was.

Make 8 seperate universes, why don't you?

DC, you bunch of dweebs. And you're surprised Marvel is absolutely raping you at the box office?

They can't be surprised. They had it right when they were letting Nolan do his thing. They should've kept up with that. Focusing on standalone films and world building for that one iconic character. Instead they handed the reigns to Snyder, who's really never been any good, and it all went to hell.

I feel a great sense of dread that WB's shenanigans will kick off a backlash that will kill DC in movies period. It's too messy, and good looking prospects (Aquaman, WW84, Shazam) will get caught up.

Yes that's it, some shit films now will undo history itself.

I think they need some clearly defined brands/labels. Like the DCEU isn't even an official label. They need a label, and then maybe an "Elseworlds" brand where they can just make whatever kind of one shot movies they want and people won't be confused thinking it is with the larger universe movies.

I don't see it as a problem at all that DC's films won't be connected initially.
If they ever want them to be, down the line, boom, cinematic 'Crisis on Infinite Earths'.

It's honestly not that complicated.

It won't kill DC. If the movies mentioned are good, they will thrives. WW didn't suffer from MOS or BvS. Reeves' Batman will likely draw if it's as good as his previous films.

This is just a guess, and maybe it’s been mentioned earlier this thread. I think Joaquin Phoenix Joker is a prequel to the Dark Knight.

Why is he older than the Dark Knight Joker then?

Time travel.

Right, sorry.

Carry on.

It was that or magic. Whatever mcguffin we're using this week

It was just a guess.

YOU'RE just a guess.

Mother fuckers...

YOU’RE mother is just a guess.

Heroes in Crisis

I liked Heroes in Crisis 1 more than Doomsday Clock 7.

The only thing I didn't like in HIC was the biggest death

I liked Doomsday Clock more because I feel like we are getting closer and closer to getting the JSA back, which is really all I want.......

I gave up on the show 2 or 3 episodes in, but Lobo looking good for Season 2 of Krypton:

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Damn, that DOES look good.

New DC Comics "Bendis-curated Imprint" announced called "Wonder Comics".

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At the least a new "Young Justice" series coming.

Unclear whether the series/imprint will be in continuity or not.

They have said YES it will

and Bendis is bringing back Connor Kent (which I think is awesome) and he will be introducing Ginny Hex, the great-great-great-great grandaughter of Jonah Hex, who has an eye for adventure. Also back are The Wonder Twins and a new teenage Green Lantern, who will apparently co-exist w/ Grant Morrison's upcoming quasi-reboot of Green Lantern.

Oh, didn't see anywhere that said it was in continuity.....

Sweet then at Connor Kent being back, but wonder how he is gonna "fit in" with another Superboy already running around...... Also interested in Wonder Girl since she was pretty heavily messed up by New 52

Oh, ok. Says "in continuity" right in the press release.

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Gotham can do whatever they want.

Radical shoulder pads

.....why...why is Bane in Gotham?

Why not? Is it really that much of a stretch from all the other villains who have showed up?

Because as normal the show id and has always been reasonably bad

I like Gotham. Sure, it's got some stupid ideas (Jerome NOT being Joker, while totally being Joker) and the little shit playing Bruce has a really punchable face, but overall I do enjoy it.

I was enjoying it, but fell behind somewhere in season 3 and never picked it up again

Just watched the Titans trailer. Why does everything have to be so fucking gritty these days?

Probably just DC trying to strike the iron again and hope they eventually get another Dark Knight series mega hit for their universe.

Marvel has been lucky with their constant striking of the iron since it still pumps out big money making and critical hit films even as people are starting to get tired of them feeling the same visually and plot formula wise. They've been more hit and miss with tv but their universe is still very healthy oerall.

Gotham is fucking awesome.

What is this?

From the upcoming crossover between Arrow/Flash/Supergirl this year.

Let me rephrase. WHO is this?

Moniter from Crisis on Infinite Earths

Lost track after season two or three but it was unusually brilliant every time I saw it. It had a tremendous gothic vibe hybridised with some pomp and circumstance. I felt quite creeped out several times, that thing with the nutty woman in the attic...

I enjoyed Batman: Secret Files overall

Heroes in Crisis #2 was a mixed bag for me. Tom King nails the small character moments. I wasn't real sold on the following though:

............................I'm sorry they did WHAT!?

Yeah, just read it.... that was a bit ridiculous... @slik

Jeremy Irons cast as Ozymandias in HBO's Watchmen series

Read the first issue of Grant Morrison's "The Green Lantern". It was meh....

Feel like Hal Jordan is the least interesting Green Lantern. Wish that Simon Baz/Jessica Cruz still had their own book. I have a bad feeling that Simon Baz is gonna be revealed to have died in Heroes in Crises though.... which would suck because there are so many dangling plots with him.....

I liked Morrison's Green Lantern. Felt like a cop tv show meets Morrison's mind-bend-ery type stuff.

Kind of nice to see the GL treated more as space cops than the usual obsession w/ the umpteen different lantern corps (green, blue, yellow, etc). I'm curious to see where it goes next. Solicit for issue 3 mentions Earth being put up for sale on The Black Market and Hal going to investigate.

I've heard Brian Bendis/super cool artist Nick Derington's Batman story is really fun in the Wal*Mart DC book...

Hoping when that's all done they'll release it as one-shot or something.

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Still struggling to get into Scott Snyder's Justice League...I thought the new 'Drowned Earth' storyline would be it's own thing and it started really big but then the end of most recent issue tied it to




I feel like Snyder has all these big, bombastic ideas but never gives them time to land or flesh out. The idea of Earth being invaded by all the sea gods of various planets and all the various sea gods can control the oceans on any planet throughout the entire galaxy is cool but it won't probably be expanded upon much I fear.

Meh, never liked Green Lantern.

A superhero you can defeat with sunflowers or lemons.

Hasn't had the weakness to yellow in decades

So he could have been klled by a lemon some decades ago.

Who cares, he's a fruitcake anyway.

The original Green Lantern was weak against wood. In the New 52 he was reimagined as a homosexual. Correlation?

Fruitcake, wood, homo.

Ok, this makes perfect sanse. Cheers.

Wait, wasn't Wonder Women powerless against bondage? As in, when a MAN tied her up.

Yeah.... Wonder Woman and her creator were all sorts of messed up.

I hope in Doomsday Clock, Green Lantern Alan Scott comes back and is no longer a homosexual, because I liked the characters of his kids. One of whom was a homosexual, I guess.

Jon Cryer casted as Lex Luthor on Supergirl.

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Maybe he will be surprisingly good.

I dont doubt his acting. His look is a bit off for me i guess. I dont know.

He has gone bald in recent years so...

The official title of the upcoming "Birds of Prey" movie is: "Birds of Prey (And The Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn)"

Bullshit.

It has been "confirmed"

Cryer's face is way too happy/cheerful.

Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes) is getting a live-action big budget film:


https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/11...e-beetle-film/

I'd have tested the waters with an animated movie but ok.

Dunno, they keep trying to push Blue Beetle Jaime Reyes in comics/cartoons but it never seems to stick.

He’s just not very interesting.

If they frame it as Ted Kord training a new Blue Beetle in New Mexico, have some fun with the comically homicidal AI - lil bit Ant-Man, lil bit Venom - don't go ham with any overt immigration messaging...

It can work.

Ted Kord was in the newest Blue Beetle comic series in a mentor role..... didn't read it, though.... was canceled anyways.

DC is on fire this week.


Doomsday Clock #8 - Fantastic. They are really nailing this sequel to 'The Watchmen'. Superman comes across perfectly written here and the twist at the end is a jaw dropper.


Shazam #1 - Really good. This is a great concept. Honors the past and resets for the future, in the way Geoff Johns did for Green Lantern years ago. Very big things ahead for this, loads of potential.


Batman #60 - Excellent art and another big twist ending. One that no one saw coming.


Justice League #13 - Delves into why Luthor trusts (?) The Joker. The Joker written near perfect here. The entire Cosmos is up for grabs, but what's the punchline, indeed.


The Green Lantern #2 - Grant Morrison's take on Green Lantern continues with trippy art and some really cool new Lanterns. This new focus of GL as space police is a strong approach, and the villains seem like they are warming up to be a Cosmos level threat.


Good week for DC.

They need to make up for DCEU.

I bet Marvel comics suck these days.

From what I've heard a lot of Marvel comics apparently do suck now.

Last I read, which was a little less than a year ago they were terrible.

Time travel this, time travel that, alternate reality, clones, etc.

It's sad when a full grown man can't understand comic books.

Marvel's absolute addiction to time travel/alternate reality stories has been their biggest crutch the last 10 years.

Remember Age of Apocalypse? How it was a huge deal? or the Ultimate Universe? All these alternate universes that actually meant something?

They don't mean anything these days. Too fucking many. They killed the mystique of it.

That said, even if the major titles like Avengers, X-men, and Spider-man aren't great theres always something out there worth reading. I've been reading the new Venom comic lately and its been really good.

I did hear Incredible Hulk has a horror feel to it now, which sounds decent

I started reading that and yeah, it's been very good. It's not traditional horror. To me more specific, it's closer to the classic pulp horror comics. Tales from the Crypt type of stuff.

Also started reading Heroes in Crisis. Really fucking dumb so far.

I like Heroes in Crisis but I'm a fan of Tom King, so I'm curious to see where it goes. He can pack a punch emotionally, so I'm assuming he's setting things up.

It's not as good as Doomsday Clock though, or the stuff Bendis is doing with both Action Comics and Superman. Bendis really is knocking Supes out of the park.

This is fantastic.

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The character moments are good. I liked the little confessionals. And Booster acting so weird had me intrigued. But Harley stuff just had me cringing too much.

I cringed at Harley defeating Wonder Woman, Supes and Bats. That's so not in her league.

I'm not sure defeating an entire house full of powered heroes is either, c-list or not.

They literally had to make excuses for everyone. Boosters shields weren't working. Wally was in shock (which is bullshit. Wally West has been in the superhero game long enough where that shouldn't happen. He's a pro and he's seen plenty of death.) And that whole scene with the trinity was just nonsense when you factor in the super speed of superan and wonder woman.

At the end of this year's DC TV shows crossover, the next year's crossover was already announced:

That's alternate universes, ain't it?

*cough* Marvel *cough*