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slik 08-08-2020 12:05 PM

Big 4 of the week

SD - 1.96 million
RAW - 1.71 million
AEW - 901k
NXT - 753k

Mr. Nerfect 08-08-2020 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5364971)
Best week for SD in a while

1.956 avg


http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/wp-cont...Aug-07-FRI.png

I haven't been following this alleged trend as closely as I could, but apparently on weeks when Raw and SmackDown do well, AEW does well. It's not surprising that wrestling has some better weeks than others. The health of AEW is probably pretty intrinsically linked to the wealth of WWE.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5364972)
Big 4 of the week

SD - 1.96 million
RAW - 1.71 million
AEW - 901k
NXT - 753k

WWE - 4.42 million views

AEW - 901k

AEW got some catching up to do.

slik 08-11-2020 04:37 PM

RAW had 1.72 million viewers this week

Big news of the week is Dynamite beat RAW in 18-34 viewers (Dynamite .29 vs RAW .23)


https://i.postimg.cc/gcKw64G5/Final-...Aug-10-MON.png

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-11-2020 05:25 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">AEW beat RAW all three hours in persons 18-34.</p>&mdash; Bryan Alvarez (@bryanalvarez) <a href="https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1293280717535719424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 08-11-2020 07:08 PM

AEW hasn’t been on this week. Wrestling fans are almost as bad as wrestling.

xrodmuc316 08-12-2020 11:18 AM

I thought the important demo was 18-49. You mean to tell me AEW honks are going to change the "important" demo to fit their narrative?

Who would have EVER guessed?!?!?

:roll:

Triple A 08-12-2020 11:22 AM

It means AEW is more appealing to young people already less than a year after its start

Triple A 08-12-2020 01:11 PM

More of an explanation about how channel flipping counts in the ratings... so combining the AEW and NXT viewership to compare to Raw does have validity I guess

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Numbers are determined by an average of each minute. So if you watch 50 minutes of one and 70 of the other, you count as .42 of a viewer for the first show and .58 of the second show if you flip back and forth. <a href="https://t.co/5y3cgoZWrC">https://t.co/5y3cgoZWrC</a></p>&mdash; Dave Meltzer (@davemeltzerWON) <a href="https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1293591133499482112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mr. Nerfect 08-13-2020 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5365757)
It means AEW is more appealing to young people already less than a year after its start

But they're losing in the key demo to a 3-hour dinosaur.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-13-2020 06:47 AM

lol

slik 08-13-2020 04:23 PM

NXT fell to number 65 this week.

AEW - 792k
NXT - 619k


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https://i.ibb.co/4RgHSYB/nxt.png

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-13-2020 04:25 PM

AEW DOMINATING NXT

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-13-2020 04:35 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">.32 to .16 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DemoBurn?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DemoBurn</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DemoGod?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DemoGod</a> <a href="https://t.co/x0kHHtAV8B">pic.twitter.com/x0kHHtAV8B</a></p>&mdash; Chris Jericho (@IAmJericho) <a href="https://twitter.com/IAmJericho/status/1294007488392634368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shit's about to pop off, son!

Volare 08-13-2020 04:46 PM

I can't but can believe Jericho posted that.

slik 08-13-2020 05:05 PM

Jerichovid-19 loves to troll

Bad News Gertner 08-13-2020 05:14 PM

So the big news is Raw defeated AEW in the coveted 18-34 demo this week. Lol they didn't reclaim it. Two different weeks.

AEW getting desperate. R.I.P

Mr. Nerfect 08-13-2020 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron Von Gertner (Post 5366211)
So the big news is Raw defeated AEW in the coveted 18-34 demo this week. Lol they didn't reclaim it. Two different weeks.

AEW getting desperate. R.I.P

Anything is possible when you lie.

Mr. Nerfect 08-13-2020 06:25 PM

Meltzer made a ridiculous post not only doing the same thing, but also claiming that TNT must love AEW because they’re not paying much for it and they’re getting 70% of a demo. Which isn’t how demos and TV rights work (even ask BigCrippyZ) but also ignores that AEW has a 50/50 split for ad revenue.

xrodmuc316 08-13-2020 10:03 PM

I finally realized what it is.

I enjoy most of AEW for the 2 hours Dynamite is on.

I hate most of AEW the rest of the week.

If they all weren't so damn annoying and "just shut up and wrestled" they probably wouldn't have driven a million people away.

All their bullshit bragging about how they are doing so great after 10 months is a spin.

They lost the majority of their audience in 10 months, that is the truth. It likely happened because they are insufferable outside of the actual television tapings.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-14-2020 05:44 AM

AEW, the greatest promotion of all time.

Mr. Nerfect 08-14-2020 06:26 AM

I hate bad wrestling. I don’t have the patience for more bad wrestling just because it isn’t run by a particular rich guy I’ve manufactured an issue with. I’m annoyed at the squandered opportunity and the fandom around them is more counterproductive and off-putting than optimistic.

I’ve tuned out of even having a cursory interest in AEW. I’ll see a headline from Meltzer or the people willing this to be more than it is and you can pretty much be guaranteed it is bullshit. It’s mild fun to dig into “TNT must love AEW because (bullshit reasons).” It’s just sad this is where wrestling is.

Bad News Gertner 08-14-2020 11:14 AM

Baseball ratings seem to be up, and it appears that younger viewership is on the rise. I'm guessing it's part of the reason viewership dropped this week

"Through the third weekend of MLB action, 39 million unique viewers have watched 59 telecasts (661,017 per game), compared to 26 million over 45 broadcasts (577,777 per game) through the same period in 2019, according to Nielsen data MLB provided to Stephen Battaglio of the Los Angeles Times.

While that shows slight growth, ESPN's national MLB telecasts are averaging 1.2 million viewers, Battaglio notes. That's up 29% from last season's numbers.

Perhaps most encouraging is the rise in viewership among the 18-34 age group. ESPN has seen a 64% increase among men and an 83% uptick among women in that demographic"

Mr. Nerfect 08-14-2020 01:28 PM

The demo breakdowns seem so antiquated. To grab a bunch of people and group them based solely on age in 2020 seems ridiculous. Are these socially adjusted? The experience of an 18 year old kid in Harlem is going to be very different from a 32 year old in Des Moines. Is there a larger amount of LGTB viewers than usual? And do these people spend money?

These sound like some pretty important points of inquiry to potential advertisers, who would be trying to work out if paying for an ad slot that is going to reach only ~200,000 people in a certain “demo” is worth it.

To see a bunch of fans get their panties moist because AEW got a 0.36 to Raw’s 0.4 is just fucking embarrassing.

slik 08-15-2020 12:09 PM

SD tops the week at 1.978


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Mr. Nerfect 08-16-2020 08:35 PM

Very surprised this wasn't listed as "AEW only 1.2 million off SmackDown."

xrodmuc316 08-16-2020 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5366396)
The demo breakdowns seem so antiquated. To grab a bunch of people and group them based solely on age in 2020 seems ridiculous. Are these socially adjusted? The experience of an 18 year old kid in Harlem is going to be very different from a 32 year old in Des Moines. Is there a larger amount of LGTB viewers than usual? And do these people spend money?

These sound like some pretty important points of inquiry to potential advertisers, who would be trying to work out if paying for an ad slot that is going to reach only ~200,000 people in a certain “demo” is worth it.

To see a bunch of fans get their panties moist because AEW got a 0.36 to Raw’s 0.4 is just fucking embarrassing.

Also remember, they are basing that on a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the actual viewership. The true difference is about 20 people who actually have a Nielsen box.

Anybody who feels like going back a few pages, I explained it. They are happy about what 20 more people watching represents according to a completely outdated model.

Mr. Nerfect 08-16-2020 08:46 PM

Oh yeah. And I don't even know anyone in the 18-49 demo with cable anymore. They're getting about 400k people in that demo. That seems like an extremely small sample to market to. And what else do we know about these people? What else do they spend money on? Do they just pay for cable so they've got their wrestling and won't spend it on much else?

slik 08-16-2020 09:36 PM

Sling, HuluLive, YouTubeTV, etc all count as cable in Nielsen ratings.

You don't know anyone who uses services like those...I doubt that.

Mr. Nerfect 08-16-2020 11:30 PM

Holy shit, they count all that and it's still so low?! Oh wow, I thought that was just actual terrestrial cable.

Actually, no, I don't know anyone who uses those services. It's all Netflix, Stan, Disney+, Kayo and Amazon Prime down here. And the UFC and WWE have their apps if you're into them. The one I think we do get is YouTubeTV, but I don't know anybody who uses that.

#1-norm-fan 08-17-2020 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5366819)
Oh yeah. And I don't even know anyone in the 18-49 demo with cable anymore. They're getting about 400k people in that demo. That seems like an extremely small sample to market to. And what else do we know about these people? What else do they spend money on?

Drugs and rock and roll records probably.

Mr. Nerfect 08-17-2020 02:03 AM

Looking at the average AEW fan, probably tabletop games and sex chat lines too. Not to shame anyone, but let’s stop pretending that the people in this demo are “cool” and who companies want their products to be associated with.

#1-norm-fan 08-17-2020 02:20 AM

Well if they’re tabletop game, sex chat line and fatty snack companies, they should be all over this shit.

Mr. Nerfect 08-17-2020 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5366864)
Well if they’re tabletop game, sex chat line and fatty snack companies, they should be all over this shit.

They probably are.

slik 08-18-2020 04:32 PM

I figured it would be a tough week for RAW w/ both NBA and DNC and it was

1.64 million


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Mr. Nerfect 08-18-2020 06:06 PM

Doesn't bode well for the rest of the week.

xrodmuc316 08-18-2020 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5367201)
I figured it would be a tough week for RAW w/ both NBA and DNC and it was

1.64 million

Yeah but look at those demos!!!!

MUH DEMOS!!!!!!

slik 08-18-2020 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5367213)
Doesn't bode well for the rest of the week.

Agreed.

I'm not sure what sports are next week but I believe the RNC begins next Monday as well.

slik 08-20-2020 04:37 PM

NXT got a bump w/o AEW

853k


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Bad News Gertner 08-20-2020 05:13 PM

NXT crushes AEW in the Wednesday Night War

Mr. Nerfect 08-20-2020 05:17 PM

I was thinking they wouldn't want to get below 850k without AEW. They landed right about there. Not spectacular for them, but a solid showing.


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