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I wouldn't say sucked. Not been great but hasn't sucked.
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You're right. I'll re state to say he's been very mediocre at best. Nonetheless, they've sunk, what, over 20 million a year into both Estrada and Happ when that price could've netted them Jordan Zimmerman over the next 5 years with some money left over.
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<font color=goldenrod>Cueto supposedly turned down a 6 year, $120 million offer from the D-Backs
D-Backs have to view that as a slap in the face really. I can't see Cueto getting much more money from anyone else. He just simply didn't want to play in Arizona.</font> |
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i like him on my fantasy team and that's about it
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honestly, i'm more worried about the new uniforms this week rather than nailing down an ace long term
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cool deal @ Zimmermann...dunno what THE STATS say but I've always had a hunch he was underrated. Wish the Yankees.......................
What else is happening...need someone to post the MLB trade rumour headlines daily |
Red Sox signed Chris Young to a multi-year deal. Also rumored to be trying to trade Hanley Ramirez.
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Lotte Giants out of the KBO have posted 3B Jae-gyun Hwang.
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Zimmerman is good. I don't know how much longer that new elbow ligament from Tommy John is gonna last but for the next two years or so he's going to be a good maybe great piece on their rotation.
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The black one from the Yankees last season.
Maybe the Red Sox could invoke some sort of Freebird Rule for all three. Need a good outing, use the pitcher. Need some outfield help, use the outfielder. Need some music to distract the crowd in case the season stinks again, use the musician. |
D-Backs ain't taking no as an answer from Johnny Cueto. They sent GM Dave Stewart, President Derrick Hall, and Baseball Ops. President Tony La Russa down to the Dominican Republic to try to change his mind. Talk about being aggressive.
Meanwhile, the Marlins are finalizing a deal that will make Barry Bonds their new hitting coach. |
Haven't had all my coffee yet but someone post a witty one-liner about Stanton hitting 80 HRs this year
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<font color=goldenrod>Would be hilarious if Dee Gordon hits like 50 HRs out of nowhere.</font>
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And steal zero bases.
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Red Sox win the David Price sweepstakes. 7-years, $217 mil.
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PRICE!!!!!!
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<font color=goldenrod>$31 million average annual value. Jesus...</font>
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Ton of fucking money but it gives then a legitimate ace.
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2015: We're all aces.
2016: Yeah no. |
So glad he stayed in the AL... he's one of my keepers in my AL-only league lol
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gonna go jump off a bridge now brb
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Shit. He's back in the AL East. Yankees gotta deal with him for another 18 games. I'd had him getting just shy of $200 mil. But god damn Davey D. made one hell of splash.
Wish the Yankees would have gotten him, but at dollar amount, you can have him, Boston. |
With how badly their starters experiment backfired last year, no surprise they'd over spend to get Price. Only concern is the years since 7 seems too long.
Also rumored to be considering getting rid of a starter or two to make up what was lost in prospect depth from the Kimbrel deal. SB Nation's Red Sox blog thinks its either Wade Miley, Joe Kelly, or both if possible get dealt soon. |
David Price gettin passed around the al east like an expensive whore
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Zack Greinke sweepstakes down to just the Dodgers and Giants with a signing expected this week. Rumored to be in the 5-6 year range for length and in the Price range for yearly average.
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Well.
5 years of Zimmermann @ $110M vs 7 years of Price @ $217M seems pretty good right now |
<font color=goldenrod>Toronto reportedly didn't even make Price an offer.
Also just like Greinke's last Dodger contract, Price's deal contains an opt-out clause after 3 years. So there's at leas a chance he'll hit the market again at 33 if he is beasting it up then and feels he can milk more years out of a team.</font> |
Cardinals ended up being the runner up in the Price sweepstakes. Their offer was around $30 million less but same years.
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Mark Trumbo to the Os for Steve Clevenger
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it's like the Orioles traded Arrieta and Strop for 3 months of Scott Feldman and Mark Trumbo. Win!
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Clevenger was 3rd catcher so its a pretty solid move for 1 year/9 mil consider he can plug any one of the holes they have at of, dh and 1b should davis go
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Looks like the Orioles effectively replaced nobody.
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Chris Davis is hardly nobody
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O's got a bargain for Trumbo. Just hope they got the space to put him at first or outfield. Power hitter, but strikes out a bit too much.
Always my emergency go-to for fantasy baseball. |
I'm a fan of Mark Trumbo for no real reason.
Okay, maybe because I can call his home runs TRUMBOMBS. That is all. |
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<font color=goldenrod>Trumboners</font>
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More like TrumbOuts
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On the subject of Zack Greinke, does he seriously want to start up the Hatfields & McCoys feud all over again? I can picture a lot of Dodger fans trashing their jerseys if he goes to the other side.
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I don't think he cares.
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As got a steal by getting Alonso for Pomerantz. Love Alonso.
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The Os also got LHP cJ Riefenhauser for Clevenger, which is funny causd they both went to Chipola College in FL
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that IS funny
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<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, my sides are splitting. I can barely contain my laughter.</font>
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you guys are such unbelievable cunts when it comes to Droford and sports... what is it about sports that makes people entirely unbearable
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you're right, it was NOT funny
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<font color=goldenrod>It's fine to post a random anecdote you find interesting. But saying "it's funny" just seems weird when it's clearly not funny
I dunno. Whatever.</font> |
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<font color=goldenrod>Pedro Alvarez and Chris Carter non-tendered by the Pirates and Astros, respectively. Both guys have a shitload of power but are one dimensional.
Henderson Alvarez leads the list of pitchers non-tendered yesterday.</font> |
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<font color=goldenrod>Sounds like the Mets had Zobrist and O'Day as the top two guys on their wishlist but never expected both would command 4-year offers for multiple teams, so now they're likely out on both players.
Can understand not committing 4 years to Zobrist. A lot of money and time to pump into an everyday player about to enter his age 35 season and who is good at a lot of things but doesn't have any "can't miss" qualities to him. O'Day though? Fuck it, I'd give him the 4th year guaranteed. I've seen little to suggest he's going to fall off a cliff. 3 years from him on par to what he's done of late makes a possibly bad 4th year worth it I think.</font> |
The fact that he's a reliever and that those guys typically burn out is probably one reason. I find it so odd that year after year, teams splurge on one inning guys when they really needn't to. Teams with a lead in the 9th win like 95% or some ridiculously near perfect percentage of the time.
Overpaying for that is silly. Jumping on handsome Frank Drebin's point on Alonso going to Oakland, I agree. Pomeranz is a reliever trying to pretend to be a starterbut is really a lefty specialist. Gimme the everyday player who is average on offense and good on d. |
<font color=goldenrod>I think the Royals have proven the importance of having lock down one-inning guys to turn to in the back of the bullpen. The real folly is when teams overpay for "closers".
If you have the 3-4-5 hitters due up in the 8th inning, I'm bringing in my best reliever then and turning elsewhere for the 9th. But no, managers feel obligated to make decisions in thrall of the almight save. It's a bullshit statistic that should be eliminated.</font> |
Yeah but the Royals aren't going out and paying free agent money on those guys. They're either developed from within or acquired through trade.
I do agree at the idea of a lockdown pen but as the Dodgers have so aptly proven blowing big money on free agent relief help is a fool's errand. |
<font color=goldenrod>Repertoire also has a lot to do with it. Those fireballing relievers are eventually gonna slow up.
That's part of the reason I love the idea of bringing in O'Day. As a submarine guy he guts through batters with off-speed stuff and a lot of movement. I don't think he's going to suddenly break down. http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...odayda01.shtml Those numbers are eye-popping for a sidearm pitcher. Looking at that chart depresses me knowing the Mets let him get away with poor roster management early in the 2009 season.</font> |
Cliff Lee cleared to pitch in 2016..... He's definitely worth the gamble at the right price with an incentive laden deal.....
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Indians VP of Player Personnel Ross Atkins is the new Blue Jays GM.
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Im gonna miss Oday but the Os wont pay him
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I really hate the Jays
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it does make you wonder what the motivations are, but whatever, I'm just gonna wait and see where everything goes.
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fucking DBacks unis are super ugly because of this dumb sublimated diamond pattern everywhere
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Across the way, I actually love the new Padres unis. Well, except for the awful blue camo. But the home white and alternate brown are pretty sweet.
http://content.sportslogos.net/news/...ey-590x321.jpg http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/...3083_th_45.jpg |
<font color=goldenrod>D-Backs uniforms look like shit. Should have just gone back to the classic purple.</font>
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<font color=goldenrod>Pads uniforms are pretty sweet, however.</font>
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Like, they're called the DIAMONDBACKS so I honestly have no qualms putting a DIAMOND on their BACK.
But I think I would have done a diamondback/snakeskin pattern on the numbers rather than anywhere else on their uniform. The DIAMOND pattern looks better on their teal alternates because it's on their BACK rather than their shoulders. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVWW3VSVEAAZz0E.jpg:large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CVWTabTUYAAYTTw.jpg:large |
Did they find some old Florida Marlins lettering and decide to save on uniform costs?
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if they did away with the diamond pattern crap and put full piping on the pants (because this way looks dumb), I'd give it like an A-. Right nowe it's probably a C-.
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Those look like jerseys I see in my fucking Sunday league. Boo urns indeed. Like, the dye sub looks really amateur.
Read a rumor that reception to the brown alternate has been so staggeringly positive (a very large contingent of fans, myself, to an extent, included) that ownership and marketing is seriously reconsidering the uniforms for 2017, and possibly replace navy with brown permanently. I'd honestly love the idea. It's very much apart of the Padres history and easily their most popular jersey. |
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Jeff Samardzjia got a few offers on the table from the $90 - $100 mil. range. Hasn't made a decision yet.
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<font color=goldenrod>Mike Pelfrey to the Tigers. 1 year, $8 million.
In other news, Mike Ilitch still gives zero fucks about money.</font> |
<font color=goldenrod>Sandy Alderson diagnosed with cancer. Fuck.</font>
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Marlins officially name Barry Bonds hitting coach.
Oliver Perez signs a 2-year, $7 mil. contract with the Nationals. Cubs grab John Lackey. 2-years, $32 - $34 mil. |
The Lackey signing fits right into the Cubs plans. Not a long term investment, mid to back end rotation piece. He basically replaces Dan Haren in the rotation. I expect them to add another arm or two since they still dont have much in terms of depth beyond the 5 starters they currently have.
After signing Lester last year, I never thought they were going to spend big on a top tier SP again. Also LOL at the thought of Barry Bonds in a Marlins uniform. |
Lackey is a great pickup for them. Agree that they're likely to add one more piece and with two ace caliber arms in Lester and Arrieta at the top and Lackey anchoring the middle, I doubt they trade for or acquire another "big name". Probably a bounce back like Fister or a similar solid but not mind blowing piece.
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Yup. They'll go through the DVD bargain bin at Best Buy. Maybe a guy like Beachy or Minor if they can be healthy. Would love a guy like Fister, but he would want a rotation spot, right? Seems like you would want to "get away" with keeping someone else in AAA or as a long man to start the year unless they trade Hammell or Hendricks.
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Price seems a bit high for Lackey but he's been pretty good overall since his Tommy John surgery.
According to Fox Sports, Scott Kazmir is the Dodgers backup plan if Zack Greinke leaves for the Giants. |
A 16 mil AAV sounds high at first blush, but it seems like the going rate for a #4 is 3/35, so 2/32 for a #3 like Lackey isn't so bad.
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<font color=goldenrod>Quality pickup for the Cubs.
That being said, holy hell is this free agent market ever expensive. When guys like Chris Young, Mike Pelfrey, and Oliver Perez are fetching multi-year deals from clubs, you know it's a crazy market.</font> |
<font color=goldenrod>D-Backs say "NOT SO FAST!" to the Dodgers and Giants. They've apparently jumped in with a very lucrative offer for Zack Greinke.</font>
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Happ and Estrada are making an average of $12.5 million combined. Zimmerman just got $100 million while Price just got $30 mil guaranteed for 7 years, with Greinke right behind him and Kershaw already in that territory.
Lackey is better than those first, not as good as Zimmerman, and clearly a flight of stairs down from Price and co. $16-$20 mil is now the going rate for good to very good run prevention and innings. It's a new world. Also, fuck the luxury tax, draft slotting, and draft compensation. You're penalizing teams for trying to get better and it is unbelievably dumb. |
The idea of a luxury tax isn't bad but probably could use more tweaks so that cheapass owners are not the big winners of it.
At least its not NBA type dumb though. NBA has both a salary cap and a luxury tax but the cap is soo soft that there is no real reason for big or wealthy teams to follow it. Net's owner became famous for not caring at all about the cap and penalties when it came to building his mega team (that failed miserably). |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Zack Greinke has reached agreement with Diamondbacks, pending a physical. (via multiple reports) <a href="https://t.co/APeOGJ5Eu1">pic.twitter.com/APeOGJ5Eu1</a></p>— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/672946317145042944">December 5, 2015</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> D'Backs pulling a Vintage Orton with a signing OUTTA NOWHERE. |
But I don't like Zack Greinke
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this is a problem
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6 years 195 is what I'm hearing.
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it's actually 206.
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