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Nash, AJ, Orton, Sting, and Austin. Only needed $14.
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• We start off with Lesnar and Heyman and Heyman cuts a promo and says that if Kurt Angle can issue an open challenge to any rookie, then Lesnar is issuing a challenge to any veteran. Ric Flair answers the challenge and in the ring, grabs a mic and cuts a promo and says that he's not just a veteran but a legend. The match happens and Lesnar wins but only just. During the match however, Heyman slips and botches climbing on to the ring apron. SPOILER: show • Backstage we see The Coach interviewing Jackie Gayda and Jackie claims that she didn't lose the tag team match last week as it was Molly Holly that got pinned, not her. Molly then appears and tells Jackie "you would be a better competitor if you didn't parade around in your undergarments". Jackie replies with "at least I look good in my undergarments" and this is enough to get Molly to slap Jackie and attack her backstage, bringing her out to the side of the stage and trying to attack her with a pole. Jackie gets the better of Molly for a second by sending her into the side of the ramp (the good ol' days when the stage and ramp were huge). The fight makes its way to the ring where Molly stands triumphant but Trish attacks her from behind, throws her into the ring and then pulls down her trousers/pants to reveal that Molly is wearing "granny panties". SPOILER: show That got a huge pop from the crowd. Trish then walks away up the ramp making fun of Molly's "huge ass". • Chris Nowinski vs Bradshaw now and the story behind this is that Nowinski asked for this match but he didn't want it to be for Bradshaw's Hardcore Championship as he didn't want to be Hardcore Champion, because that would mean he would be looking over his shoulder 24/7. During Nowinski's entrance, Lawler showed off Nowinski's class ring. The bell rings and Bradshaw brings out weapons from under the ring, even though it isn't a Hardcore Match. The referee then takes a chair away from Bradshaw but as his back is turned, Nowinski hits Bradshaw with a cowbell and pins Bradshaw for the three-count. The match was probably no more than two minutes long. As Nowinski is leaving, we see William Regal watching the match backstage when Rob Van Dam enters the locker room looking for Lesnar. Regal tells him that Lesnar has already had a match and that he should apologise for barging into the locker room. Rob Van Dam doesn't and instead, challenges Regal to a match tonight. • Backstage we see Booker T & Goldust and Goldust is dressed as Darth Vader and Booker T gets carried away with a plastic lightsaber. I really must have been into Booker T & Goldust back then as so far, everything I've seen from them, I remember so vividly. • Rob Van Dam vs William Regal now and during Regal's entrance, Lilian Garcia messes up and introduces Regal from Liverpool, not Blackpool. What an insult. Anyways, it was actually quite a good match and RVD wins and then grabs a mic and calls Lesnar out who then appears with Heyman. Heyman then declines the match tonight but instead, challenges RVD to a match at Vengeance which RVD accepts. • We're all then informed that Chris Benoit will have his first match in over a year tonight. https://i.postimg.cc/1XBJM5q9/xz3.png • Bubba & Spike Dudley vs Eddie Guerrero & Chris Benoit This match was hyped up backstage with Eddie, Benoit and Vince and it was a nice long match with no team really dominating the other, however, I was surprised when Bubba and Spike won clean. I expected Eddie & Benoit to win as it was Benoit's first match back in over a year. After the match, Benoit attacked Bubba and he also put Spike through a table. As Benoit is applying a Crippler Crossface to Bubba, Eddie hit a Frog Splash on Bubba's back which seemed to have killed Bubba, who just went completely limp. • Backstage, Goldust tries to attack Big Show but as Goldust tries to run away, he's stopped by Kevin Nash, who basically destroys him. Kevin Nash then tells Big Show that he has to win the match or he's out. Later, backstage, Big Show finds X-Pac unconscious on top of a broken coffee table. https://i.postimg.cc/nL1jXjbc/xz4.png So the match is now a singles match between Booker T and Big Show. The match is a short one as Big Show and Booker T are fighting outside the ring and Big Show picks up the steps but Booker trips him up and Big Show gets knocked out by the steps hitting his face, so as a result, he isn't able to answer the referee's ten-count and is counted out. We return from a break and Big Show has now regained consciousness and is in the ring with Kevin Nash and Shawn Micheals. Nash punches Big Show who in return, punches Nash. Micheals then stands between them and tells them to stop. He then cuts a really slow and long winded promo that felt like it was going absolutely nowhere but the point of the promo was to announce that Triple H will be joining the nWo. After that, Micheals asks Nash and Big Show to make up and as they're shaking hands, Michaels must have turned on some kind of "Big Show head magnet" in his shoe, as Big Show's head quickly (and suddenly) made its way towards Micheals' foot and Sweet Chin Music was delivered. SPOILER: show Both Nash and Micheals then tell Big Show to follow them as it was just "tough love". • Backstage we see Vince and Undertaker and Vince announces that Undertaker will face The Rock at Vengeance. We then see Jeff Hardy getting ready for his match. Matt then enters the room to wish him luck and surprises us all by bringing Lita with him who's been out with a legit neck injury, so she was wearing a neck brace. It's main event time and it's Undertaker vs Jeff Hardy in "That Ladder Match" for the Undisputed Championship. This is one of the matches I remember extremely vividly and I remember enjoying the match immensely when I first watched it but I actually don't remember it being as short as it was. It actually felt much longer when I watched it back in 2002. I also remember when I first watched it that I legitimately thought Jeff could win and that he was going to win. I also think that I actually wanted Jeff to win at that time, even though I remember liking The Undertaker at that time. Jeff being Undisputed Champion just seemed crazy to me at that point and I liked that. I'm still like that now in that I like wrestlers winning championships that you never thought they would win. The last time that happened for me was when Jinder Mahal won the WWE Championship. I was so happy when that happened and yes, I "marked out" a little bit. Seeing and hearing all the iconic moments during the match however just gave me such a great sense of nostalgia. The moment from (and onwards) when Jeff hit The Undertaker with a chair as he was being lifted up for The Last Ride is what I remember the most vividly and that just happens to be the beginning of the end of the match. Also, JR willing Jeff on and yelling "Climb the ladder, kid! Make yourself famous!" are words I've always remembered and at the time, I felt like those were special words and in the end, they were, as now they're pretty memorable and are a part of "WWE History". And also, there's this moment: SPOILER: show • We start off with Lilian Garcia (from Raw) singing "America The Beautiful" as it is the day to be singing it, I guess but also because USA! USA! USA! As Lilian is singing, we hear Lance Storm's voice calling for the music to stop. He then appears with Christian and Test and the boos these guys get is crazy. If the boos they got for interrupting "America The Beautiful" was crazy, then what they would have gotten for interrupting the national anthem would have been insane and I can see why Vince didn't go that route as it was the first Independence Day since September 11th. But also because generally speaking, America comes across as being mighty protective of their anthem. I can imagine someone interrupting it would either be shot or it would start a riot. Anyway, they tell Lilian to leave and Christian has the mic. He asks if Americans really knows why they're celebrating today. He then says "Considering the ignorance of the American youth, you probably think of Independence Day as the day Will Smith saved the world from a bunch of aliens". Lance then takes the mic and proceeds to give us all a history lesson and explains why America celebrates but in doing so, paints America in a bad light whilst remaining factually correct. He then lists all the wars that America has been a part of and also asks why America was even in Korea and Vietnam. He then reminds everyone that America lost in Vietnam which receives some boos. Test finally gets the mic and says that he hates America. That was Test's part in this ten minute opening. Rikishi's music hits and it's a scheduled match between himself and Lance Storm, so after the break, the match starts and it's a short one as Christian and Test interfere and help Storm win. • Backstage we see Stacy Keibler knocking on the locker room door and Mark Henry (in full gear) answers and she asks for John Cena. That's the first and last time we see Mark Henry tonight. Cena arrives at the door (also in full gear) and Stacy tells him that Vince wants to see him. As he goes to see Vince, Stacy checks out his ass. During Cena's adventure to Vince's office, a match takes place, so I can only imagine that the locker room and Vince's office were at opposite ends of the arena, as Reverend D-Von & Batista were able to defeat The Big Valbowski & Randy Orton in the time it took Cena to arrive as Vince's office, as after the match we see Chris Jericho with Vince and a match is made between Jericho and Edge at Vengeance. John Cena then enters the room and Jericho has an instant dislike of him and asks him who he thinks he is and so on. It all ends with Cena slapping Jericho in the face and sending Jericho to the floor and it must have be some slap as the sound Cena's hand made when it came into contact with Jericho's face was like a balloon exploding. Also, Jericho swore but it was bleeped out. Cena then leaves. A break happens and when we come back we see what happened during the break and it's Jericho asking for a match with Cena tonight. • We then get "The People's Moment". SPOILER: show It's just a short clip of something The Rock did that was funny in January of that year. It was when he took the cameraman's camera and pointed it at him. • Tag Team Championship Match now and it's Hulk Hogan & Edge vs Billy & Chuck I was getting ready to skip Hogan's entrance but he came out to "Real American" so I was left feeling glad that I didn't have to endure Hogan's awful "Voodoo Child" dub. It was actually a decent Tag Team Match but in the end, Edge pinned Chuck even though Billy was the legal man and Hulk Hogan & Edge are the new Tag Team Champions. • After the match, we get informed that Torrie Wilson and Stacy Keibler will be facing each other in a Bra & Panties Match. Those were the days. • Chris Jericho vs John Cena and Cena comes out with his delightfully jobber sounding theme. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/430-W30A8dk" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe> Jericho wins by having his feet on the ropes and giving Cena his first loss, which was in his hometown. • We have another "The People's Moment". SPOILER: show It's when The Rock shoved Vince's head up Rikishi's ass. • We're taken back to last Saturday when The World hosted "Divas Undressed". Torrie Wilson was announced as the winner of the first ever "Golden Thong Award" and she celebrated by sticking her lollipop on Dawn Marie's boob (as you do). SPOILER: show And yes: NSFW: show Anyway, Torrie and Stacy argue and then fight and that's what lead to this Bra & Pantie's match. Also, I love that Rico entered himself into the competition and also what he's wearing. It's all so ridiculous. :lol: • We then see Jamie Noble and Nidia in a trailer park and Noble has bought Nidia and trailer home. They both take a look around inside and are amazed that they have running water. • Bra & Panties time and the match starts and the crowd starting a "we want puppies" chant. Torrie wins but still strips to her bra and panties to show off her patriotic underwear. SPOILER: show • We get yet another "The People's Moment". SPOILER: show It was from King of the Ring two weeks ago when The Rock interfered in the Undisputed Championship match. • Main Event time and it's Kurt Angle vs The Undertaker for the Undisputed Championship. I think that The Undertaker is officially a face now as he had cheers added in to his entrance. Also, I think the ending of the match was messed up, as Angle was pinned but Undertaker tapped and as a result of something going wrong with that ending, it was shot again after everyone had went home, as the crowd changed in the space of around ten seconds. SPOILER: show And if I get rid of all the changes of camera angles and just switch between the "same camera": SPOILER: show Or just screenshots side by side: https://i.postimg.cc/GmkYw3Kr/xz12.png The differences are that they're obviously different people, they're pretty much all men and the crowd changes from being seated and enjoying the show, to standing and going mad and cheering. You can also see that the lights have been turned off on the seats at the back, which was probably done to hide the fact that they're all empty. |
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Lol you've gotta check this video about Booker T's theme. Fucking dead.
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I will never hear Booker T's theme and not think of faces in asses.
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Wasn’t there a rumor that the NWO theme was from a porno also?
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Weren't both Cactus Jack and NWO themes on a public domain list, like the Hardyz theme?
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Ye I think that’s true , I’ve heard the Harry’s theme on other shows.
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Same with Crash Holly/Hardcore Holly theme and Alex Luger’s WCW theme
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Heh, Strowman is gonna be in a Will Ferrell Sherlock movie.
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Haven't been interested in watching wrestling in a long time, but I am now binge watching Strowman clips on youtube. Guy is awesome.
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Hm, every time the commentators introduce Nakamura I hear them saying Shitstain Nakamura.
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Who would have thought 20 years after "Beyond the Mat" was released that Jake Roberts would be live anywhere. Kudos to that fucking guy. He's got them Keith Richards genes.
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I was thinking about Jake Roberts the other day. If those abstract and unsubstantiated rumors about a new Chris Jericho North American promotion are true, I had this pipe-dream that they would get Bret Hart to be the top agent. Underneath where Christian, DDP and Jake Roberts, provided you could trust Jake. I also thought of Edge, but I figured he would be "too busy."
Then I saw a shoot from Bret Hart yesterday where he talked about agenting, and how he finds it weird that Vince has all these guys that never really worked on top telling top guys how to work their matches, and he said that he was willing to produce for them for TVs only. It was like this weird pipe-dream that kind of just accidentally simpatico with Bret Hart's thoughts on wrestling. |
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I can't be the only one who think Lesnar looks like he has a tiny bit of Down's Syndrome.
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nWo: Frank Shelley's 'Rockhouse' The nWo (New World Order) wrestling theme was always one of the best. The track is Frank Shelley's 'Rockhouse', made by sampling Jimi Hendrix riffs from 'Hey Joe', 'Highway Chile' and 'The Stars That Play With Laughing Sam's Dice'. |
The Highway Chile bit was quite obvious. Didn't notice the rest.
Also, a couple more production tracks I remember hearing elsewhere is the first Dudleyz theme, and the first one for The Usos/Tamina. |
I heard Justin Credible's WWF theme in a commercial at some point.
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I've been listening to Fumi Saito's podcast, Pacific Rim Wrestling a lot. He's a Japanese super-fan and journalist that used to work for a magazine over there. He's got lots of insight into how Japanese wrestling works, and he's a pretty optimistic guy. They're quite short.
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He doesn't just cover modern stuff, but historical stuff as well. They could probably go deeper into certain subjects, but I'm only a few in.
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Steele carried a stuff bear and ate turnbuckles and got over. Strongbow looked like a sack of shit and did a rain dance and got over. |
Both guys were over but neither was world champ, in fairness.
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What box office records did Bret set? (The best of a bad situation)
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Meh. Still champ while the two of them were supporting acts.
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And he was champ in a time where having the belt meant something.
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They could have put Sivi Afi or Frenchie Martin in there and done just as well as Bret
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Bret always bored me.
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Hogan should have changed his lyrics at Crown Jewel:
"I am a real americannnn, fight for whats right unless it conflicts with a multi-billion dollar arms deallllll" |
The 'end' of the LWO was so pathetic and funny, lol
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I've grown to really appreciate Bret Hart recently. I missed him growing up, and when I went back my tastes weren't there to understand him. I found him "boring" too. Now, he's probably one of my favorite wrestlers. The way he tells a story is second-to-none. |
Watching Matches of Christian on the network right now.
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Im a fan of Christians work but everything about his look was terrible. It’s like the dude never had a single leg day ever. Fuckin chicken legs ova here.
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Don't think Christian is weird looking at all. When he had to get off the gas and age made it harder to work out or whatever, he didn't look "credible" in the main event role. He looked like a pretty healthy cagey guy and could obviously move, but he didn't come off as a heavyweight player. I was thinking about this the other day (and I love Christian), but I wish he had gotten more chance, or taken it upon himself, to really play his image into his matches towards the end of his WWE run. I'd have liked to see him work as more of a "desperate" veteran looking for one shot at glory.
Still pisses me off he never got a real chance as a babyface. Whenever he was a face they would basically cut the mic on him. Maybe not so much in ECW, but I don't remember Christian having any real babyface promos on SmackDown or Raw. |
Christian was awesome during his final active years. That sensors with Orton was a hell of a way to go out. I never had an issue with his look. Also I feel he could’ve been used better but still had a fantastic career.
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The way Christian’s career ended saddens me. His last match was on a random Raw and he didn’t even get a sendoff moment.
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My favourite thing about WWE is how they book all of their babyfaces like fucking dorkasses who are constantly outsmarted and half of its heels like badass submission machines, and the other half like cunning bastards you have to respect - then is like "BUT THE FANS ONLY LOVE HEELS."
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I seriously think the way Carmella beat Asuka and then having her beat Charlotte clean in the middle of the ring may be the dumbest booking decisions I've ever seen. Even more so in hindsight now that she's a comedy character. Does she even wrestle still?
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They went out of their way to make her look strong as fuck (possibly better, even) against the two women on the brand who were treated like the top of the food chain at WrestleMania. If they did it because they actually thought she would end up being a huge deal based on her in-ring skill ala Charlotte and Asuka, that's pretty fucking dumb. If they knew she'd end up as a comedy non-wrestling character in a few months, then it's REALLY fucking dumb.
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Oh sorry, other than the dork babyfaces, there's the one "Superman" who's so overpowered that fans find it contrived because they aren't simpletons and it somehow further stokes the "Fans love heels" flame. Talk about not being able to look at yourself in the mirror.
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I've always liked Christian and I absolutely loved the guy during his 2003-2005 run on Raw when he cut his hair and started calling his fans "his Peeps" and so on.
It's probably the best he's ever been in my opinion. I've always kinda felt that his move to SmackDown in 2005 did more bad than good for him, as he seemed to just disappear on SmackDown and he didn't really do anything noteworthy during his time there. He didn't even with a single championship. As for his look, I've never viewed him as being "rat-faced" and I think his best look was when he cut his hair in 2003 up until he left WWE in 2005. I've mentioned this here before but being at TNA seemed to have done something to him, as when Christian returned to WWE from TNA, he looked different. He looked thinner (especially his calfs) and there must have been something in the water at TNA because his skin looked really yellow. He looked like he had jaundice. He just generally didn't look healthy at all. His promos weren't the same too. In fact, they were pretty much the exact opposite of what they were like before he left WWE. His promos after he returned in 2009 came across as a bit mediocre and he always delivered his promos in a somewhat "monotone shouting voice" and he just didn't appear to have the same "swagger" or confidence with the mic that he did before he left. Even though he was somewhat successful in TNA, I've always felt a little bit that TNA really "hurt him" and "brought him down" and kinda "devalued him" in a way, as he was better than TNA but he went there and it appeared (to me at the time of his WWE return) that TNA really rubbed off on him during his three years there and he just wasn't the same Christian he was before he went to TNA. He never really seemed to "fully recover" from that (in my opinion) during his second time in WWE up until his retirement. I still like the guy though and I do still feel that he was a big wasted talent during his time in WWE. |
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I used to like McGregor, but I always find it funny how those fighters keep acting tough after getting their asses handed to them.
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But the toughest ones don't need to brag. :) Did Georges St. Pierre ever brag? Pretty sure he'd kick McGregor's ass. If they were the same weight class, which I have no idea if they are and am too lazy to check. |
That wasn't Georges' style and it made him very likeable. But Conor is more of a heel/Muhammed Ali-type who talks them into the arena. If he suddenly stopped "acting tough" he would cease being Conor McGregor.
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Watching RAW from Monday. I like that Tamina is being "featured." She should be a bigger star.
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I never liked his cursive designs. It wasn't really eye catching and just made his tights look really plain and that he was just wearing plain black tights, which is never a good look for anyone, especially Christian as it just made his legs (especially his calves) appear thinner than what they were. Also, to me, it'll always be The Unprettier. I get why the name was changed to The Killswitch, as it does sound more "cartoony" as it was just around the time the "PG Era" was taking off, also the move itself does look like a switch being pulled down and that it's "the end" for his opponents. However, The Unprettier, although not really "grammatically correct", made just as much sense, as the move smashes the opponents face into the ground, making him "not pretty" anymore thus, The Unprettier. |
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