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Evil Vito 01-27-2020 11:59 PM

Marty Scurll showed up at tonight's show in North Carolina and challenged Jay White to a match at Supercard of Honor.

Emperor Smeat 01-28-2020 08:08 PM

So either NJPW got hit with some bad luck or someone put a Papa Shango curse on their USA tour.

Fourth time this past week something has gone terribly wrong for the tour.

Ibushi got very ill right before the tour started, Fredericks got hurt on Sunday, Monday's show had a concessions issue, and Nagata revealed today that he recently suffered a neck injury.

Mr. Nerfect 01-30-2020 04:40 AM

Oh man, a neck injury at Nagata's age is not good.

Emperor Smeat 01-30-2020 08:42 PM

Apparently NJPW had been in talks with MSG regarding them holding an event there this year but those talks seem to have ended after NJPW lost their tv deal in the US and WWE pulling a power play in order to lock out other promotions from the venue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Observer Newsletter
We do know that MSG and New Japan were at one point talking about a summer date but that appears to have fallen through as noted by NJPW not announcing any major arena U.S. shows on 1/5 at the Dome when they did the underwhelming schedule announcement. There is a lot of talk that WWE has managed to lock up the building by promising more and better dates. Vince has a thing, because of his father where MSG was the big arena historically for the company, that he’s more adamant about nobody else ever getting in.


Mr. Nerfect 01-30-2020 08:44 PM

Sinclair could probably help them open it back up.

Emperor Smeat 01-30-2020 09:23 PM

Doubt Sinclair would care since the relationship between ROH and NJPW is still pretty shaky even with Scurll's attempts to improve the relationship partially due to personal reasons.

Only reason Sinclair got involved with the G1 Supercard show was due to WWE's attempts to wreck the show which would have damaged ROH finances. They still holdg a grudge against WWE for trying to raid ROH talent via illegal means and using the NXT brand as their attack dog to hurt ROH.

Based on past sheets and interviews from ROH's COO, seems ROH isn't that fond of NJPW running shows in the US, especially since some of those shows are in ROH hotbed areas and competing against ROH shows. Also despite the demise of their tv deal in the US, NJPW still is in no rush to use ROH talent for their shows and have been loaning out talent for Mania weekend shows mostly just to maintain their presence in the US.

This year's Best of the Super Jrs tournament will be a good indication if that ROH-NJPW relationship improved or not depending if or who from ROH gets invited.

Ultra Mantis 01-31-2020 07:24 AM

Was looking over the upcoming schedule and barring any surprising results from the New Beginning tour Naito could be set for an interesting year. He will face Hiromu at the anniversary show then his next challenger will be the winner of the New Japan Cup. If SANADA follows his pattern of getting one step further each year, he should win the Cup this year. I'm sure that would then "rile up" EVIL enough to challenge and then Shingo won't be left out either. Clearly building to Naito vs BUSHI in the dome.

Also if you haven't joined Survivor yet and that's something you'd do, sign ups are open until the start of the Saturday morning show

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=136837

Jordan 01-31-2020 08:35 AM

Just going to be honest, I cancel my my New Japan Sub every year at this time.

ClockShot 01-31-2020 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5318050)
Apparently NJPW had been in talks with MSG regarding them holding an event there this year but those talks seem to have ended after NJPW lost their tv deal in the US and WWE pulling a power play in order to lock out other promotions from the venue.

Would have been cool if NJPW got the Garden to themselves. But figures that WWE would muscle in and shut them down since they're back at MSG at a regular basis. The no TV deal also hurts, but not so much.

Which makes me wonder if they'll go somewhere else. Perhaps try Boston. Or go halfway and go to Connecticut and pull both markets :D. Philly too is a possibility.

If their run through New England back at the end of Summer was any indicator, they'll sell out up here. Anywhere else might be tricky. Speaking of which, how'd the New Beginning tour in the South do for attendance?

Mr. Nerfect 01-31-2020 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 5318201)
Would have been cool if NJPW got the Garden to themselves. But figures that WWE would muscle in and shut them down since they're back at MSG at a regular basis. The no TV deal also hurts, but not so much.

Which makes me wonder if they'll go somewhere else. Perhaps try Boston. Or go halfway and go to Connecticut and pull both markets :D. Philly too is a possibility.

If their run through New England back at the end of Summer was any indicator, they'll sell out up here. Anywhere else might be tricky. Speaking of which, how'd the New Beginning tour in the South do for attendance?

https://www.njpw1972.com/wp-content/...fWWoAEuQPq.png

There's no way New Japan sell out MSG without the help of ROH and some big stars and big hype at the right time of year. WrestleMania weekend had wrestling fans everywhere and the novelty of being other promotions in Vince's venue.

Emperor Smeat 01-31-2020 07:19 PM

Seems Chase Owens is leaving NJPW since he mentioned his contract expires after today but won't potentially be leaving till after tomorrow since that is when NJPW's current US tour ends.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today is the final day of my njpw contract. Hope to see everyone tomorrow at the Coca Cola Roxy theatre in Atlanta Georgia!!</p>&mdash; chase owens (@realchaseowens) <a href="https://twitter.com/realchaseowens/status/1223245478906802177?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Ultra Mantis 01-31-2020 08:06 PM

He's working the Osaka show on the 9th too and was working a little angle with Ibushi (before Ibushi got sick) based on them teaming up together during the Elite split from Bullet Club. If he is actually leaving I think they will be giving him a send off there.

Note sure why he would leave though unless hes received a big money offer from somewhere. The question then is: why would anybody offer Chase Owens big money? Dude could probably have a steady job for life with New Japan, maybe he wants to spend more time with his family but then why not stay on for the US tours? They need bodies there. Maybe he thinks he could go higher? I dont see it but I do like him in his role as an overconfident lower card mook.

Evil Vito 01-31-2020 08:10 PM

Chase Owens is the Crown Jewel

Saudi Arabia main event confirmed

Emperor Smeat 01-31-2020 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 5318258)
He's working the Osaka show on the 9th too and was working a little angle with Ibushi (before Ibushi got sick) based on them teaming up together during the Elite split from Bullet Club. If he is actually leaving I think they will be giving him a send off there.

Note sure why he would leave though unless hes received a big money offer from somewhere. The question then is: why would anybody offer Chase Owens big money? Dude could probably have a steady job for life with New Japan, maybe he wants to spend more time with his family but then why not stay on for the US tours? They need bodies there. Maybe he thinks he could go higher? I dont see it but I do like him in his role as an overconfident lower card mook.

Probably simply feels like Lance Archer where he just wants to go in a new direction for his career.

After Trent Beretta left, think NJPW gave Trent's planned push to Chase but that didn't really work out or materialize the way both sides expected by now.

Emperor Smeat 02-01-2020 03:31 AM

Owens ended up revealing he recently signed a new multi-year contract with NJPW so last night's stuff was just him playing things up for the drama.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well it’s February 1st and I’m proud to say that today starts my new multi year contract with NJPW. See everyone soon ��</p>&mdash; chase owens (@realchaseowens) <a href="https://twitter.com/realchaseowens/status/1223477422412259333?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 02-01-2020 06:29 AM

Moxley & Okada vs. Suzuki & Taichi match at New Beginning Sapporo Night 1 was great. Next weekend's Moxley vs. Suzuki match is going to be amazing based on what those two did tonight.

The post-match stuff was just pure brutality from the other 2 in the match.
SPOILER: show
Taichi pretty much utterly destroyed Okada albeit with some help from Zack Sabre Jr.

Taichi even started doing Suzuki style laughs near the end of it.

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 02:35 AM

Add El Desperado to the ever growing list of people who can do a spear better than Edge.

Just busted one out against YOH during the IGWP Jr Tag title match at tonight's New Beginning show in Osaka.

Jordan 02-09-2020 02:37 AM

I'm hear with you brother.

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 02:47 AM

Taguchi convincing Rocky to team up and go after Roppongi 3K's jr tag belts was pretty cool.

:lol: at the team name being the Mega Coaches.

Only 2 matches into the card and New Beginning in Osaka is already shaping up into being upper tier quality for NJPW shows this year.

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 02:57 AM

Tanahashi visits the US for like 2 weeks and somehow came back with 80s metal/rock band style hair.

Jordan 02-09-2020 03:15 AM

Back to the GARDEN BABY 8-22

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 03:15 AM

:eek: NJPW confirmed they are returning to MSG.

Wrestling Dynasty event on August 22nd.

Jordan 02-09-2020 03:16 AM

I will be there certainly.

Jordan 02-09-2020 03:16 AM

I really hope they keep ROH out of it. But I doubt that will happen.

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5320188)
I really hope they keep ROH out of it. But I doubt that will happen.

Meltzer mentioned in this week's Newsletter that they want to run the show by themselves but could see Marty Scurll potentially be there as a ROH rep since he wants to keep the door open to NJPW for himself.

Jordan 02-09-2020 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5320189)
Meltzer mentioned in this week's Newsletter that they want to run the show by themselves but could see Marty Scurll potentially be there as a ROH rep since he wants to keep the door open to NJPW for himself.

I'm okay with 1-2 matches featuring ROH talent.

slik 02-09-2020 03:27 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This January, the Tokyo Dome experienced Wrestle Kingdom.<br><br>This summer, Madison Square Garden will experience Wrestle Dynasty!<br><br>We'll see you August 22 <a href="https://twitter.com/TheGarden?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@thegarden</a>!<br><br>Details:<a href="https://t.co/aqrlS5ItOa">https://t.co/aqrlS5ItOa</a><br><br>Follow <a href="https://twitter.com/NJPWofAmerica?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NJPWofAmerica</a> for more info!<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJoA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NJoA</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/wrestledynasty?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#wrestledynasty</a> <a href="https://t.co/8MsQGlU16u">pic.twitter.com/8MsQGlU16u</a></p>&mdash; NJPW Global (@njpwglobal) <a href="https://twitter.com/njpwglobal/status/1226419246852272128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 04:08 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">*boink* <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJPW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NJPW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njnbg?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njnbg</a><a href="https://t.co/IKsQw9WMvw">https://t.co/IKsQw9WMvw</a> <a href="https://t.co/yu4IozZlRs">pic.twitter.com/yu4IozZlRs</a></p>&mdash; LARIATOOOO!! (@MrLARIATO) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrLARIATO/status/1226431975260639234?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SANADA's lucky he didn't suffer a serious neck injury.

Was bad enough that right after he took a snap suplex that also boinked his head.

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 04:25 AM

Holy shit at the chests of Hiromu and Ryu Lee. Both starting to turn a shade of purple after like over 5 minutes of just chest massacring chops.

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 04:29 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">HOLY SHIT!!!!!! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NJPW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NJPW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/njnbg?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#njnbg</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/dragonlee95?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@dragonlee95</a><a href="https://t.co/IKsQw9WMvw">https://t.co/IKsQw9WMvw</a> <a href="https://t.co/VRAo7cySP1">pic.twitter.com/VRAo7cySP1</a></p>&mdash; LARIATOOOO!! (@MrLARIATO) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrLARIATO/status/1226437284884615169?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 9, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeup this might be the craziest match I've seen since Moxley vs Omega at AEW Full Gear and its only been around 10 minutes soo far.

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 04:44 AM

Lee vs. Takahashi is right up there with this year's Wrestle Kingdom's IWGP Heavyweight and IC matches in terms of greatness.

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 05:04 AM

Suzuki might have officially snapped.

Moxley vs. Suzuki has been great soo far. Expected a nice brutal brawl and its delivered big time.

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 05:17 AM

Next US Heavyweight title match is going to be weird based on the pairing.

SPOILER: show
Zack Sabre Jr who specializes in chain wrestling and submissions
vs.
Moxley who specializes as a brawler in NJPW

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 06:04 AM

Holy shit, Naito got busted open badly.

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2020 06:10 AM

KENTA vs. Naito was great. Started off slow but the latter half of the match was amazing.

Last 3 matches were amazing and must watch tier quality.

Jordan 02-09-2020 02:58 PM

I wonder if Mox or Jericho will be on the WRESTLING DYNASTY at MSG?

Evil Vito 02-09-2020 03:12 PM

I’m definitely going to that. With G1 having to be later in the year I think this might be their big event for the summer and I’d expect it to be the whole crew or close to it.

Mr. Nerfect 02-09-2020 03:28 PM

New Japan probably had help to get into the Garden from Sinclair. Reading between the lines, this is a further sign of the New Japan/ROH relationship being strong, and Sinclair being willing to break bank.

Could see Wrestle Dynasty being a permanent edition to their calendar. I hope they treat it like a Wrestle Kingdom-sized event.

Mr. Nerfect 02-09-2020 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5320258)
I wonder if Mox or Jericho will be on the WRESTLING DYNASTY at MSG?

My first thought was “no,” since AEW retain NA rights to them, but I could see Tony Khan being pushed over into letting them work it to try and “build the bridge,” even if it ultimately goes nowhere.

Ultra Mantis 02-09-2020 04:55 PM

Glad we have experts like Noid here to show Meltzer how to dish out the cold hard facts.

Absolutely no way this is going to be a permanent addition, it takes place during what would be the regular G1 schedule, which has been pushed back this year due to the Olympics. Nothing suggests ROH has any involvement in this show and that's a good thing since general consensus is that ROH shit the bed last time. As a card I'd guess it would be on the level of King of Pro Wrestling since that's what its effectively replacing (same as MSG Super Card replacing Sakura Genesis last year), meaning we can expect a lot of title defences but nothing is going to have any huge ramifications on WK since the G1 hasn't happened yet.

Can't see Mox or Jericho being involved, but that relationship could always change between now and then.


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