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GD 07-31-2018 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5153382)
I've got a feeling that if The Rock does come back and wrestle at WrestleMania 35 (which I am dubious about) to work with Roman Reigns (which I am also dubious about), then Triple H will wrestle Shawn Michaels on the show. There's no way Triple H is not going to be featured on a WrestleMania card that could potentially spike Network numbers. If he just works a filler match against a guy like Seth Rollins, he won't be able to take credit for being a part of that spike, so he'll be working with a huge name so he can be grouped in with The Rock when they announce the numbers going up. "We had The Rock vs. Roman Reigns, Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels, Ronda Rousey, John Cena, etc."

It'll be either Michaels or they'll cave and give Big Dave that call.

I would be very excited if the WWE were to accommodate Batista's request to work a program with Hunter. It is quite baffling that they haven't made any efforts to latch onto his Hollywood success.

Emperor Smeat 07-31-2018 11:45 PM

Toss Cedric Alexander to the growing pile of celebs and athletes who didn't bother to scrub their social media accounts and now have their past postings come back to haunt them.

In Cedric's case, seems his backlash is over rape jokes on Twitter from several years ago. Could be more but those were what got publicly outed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Well, looks like Cedric Alexander just got caught up by the twitter police...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/205Live?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#205Live</a> <a href="https://t.co/jRdBIzXiS8">pic.twitter.com/jRdBIzXiS8</a></p>&mdash; Mark Out Mania | HK (@RealMarkOutHK) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMarkOutHK/status/1024403303898046464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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GD 07-31-2018 11:52 PM

This is very disheartening and uncomfortable. Wow!

Evil Vito 08-01-2018 12:03 AM

Tye Dillinger too

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tye Dillinger joins Cedric Alexander getting caught up by the twitter police... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLIVE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLIVE</a> <a href="https://t.co/Mw8ubdtB07">pic.twitter.com/Mw8ubdtB07</a></p>&mdash; Mark Out Mania | HK (@RealMarkOutHK) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMarkOutHK/status/1024429230967291906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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GD 08-01-2018 01:07 AM

Oh God!

screech 08-01-2018 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5153434)
My local indie is having their 25th Anniversary Show. So far they've announced D Lo Brown, John Morrison, Chris Sabin and Tommy Dreamer. Can't wait to meet Dreamer. Our indie fed is a awesome.

I met Dreamer at a signing years ago (Edge was the "headliner") and he seemed super disinterested. I know people who have had good experiences with him though, so I'm thinking I caught him on a rough day.

Also John Morrison was way bigger than I thought he'd be haha

But woooo indie feds!

Gerard 08-01-2018 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5153452)
Tye Dillinger too

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tye Dillinger joins Cedric Alexander getting caught up by the twitter police... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLIVE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLIVE</a> <a href="https://t.co/Mw8ubdtB07">pic.twitter.com/Mw8ubdtB07</a></p>&mdash; Mark Out Mania | HK (@RealMarkOutHK) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMarkOutHK/status/1024429230967291906?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Must have quite the tiny dick not to wake them up...:shifty:

slik 08-01-2018 10:10 AM

I hope in the future the main roster of #WWE is booked more like NXT.

Brand new main-event scene every two years or so. Out with the old and in with the new. Mindset you need to have the same people main-eventing for a decade is outdated & toxic IMO.

slik 08-01-2018 10:26 AM

It's just like a soap-opera. A lot of characters come and go. Some, even main-event/major ones, only have 2-3 years worth of story to tell. Some might have a decade plus.

Bray is a perfect example - 2-3 years worth of good story & could have released him after that. WWE instead just hires and stockpiles people. A smaller, constantly cycled out roster would keep things fresh all the time. And you can always bring some people back, if needed, for another run down the line.

Big Vic 08-01-2018 10:28 AM

Kind of like "Oz"

slik 08-01-2018 10:38 AM

Yeah

Instead of (between RAW/SD/NXT/Performance Center) having like 200 people you pay $$$ to maybe you only have 75-100.

Lock Jaw 08-01-2018 10:42 AM

So you'd have a person in the main event for two years and then kill them off/fire them and replace them with new up-and-comers?

Evil Vito 08-01-2018 10:42 AM

That's kinda why I've been really enjoying SmackDown. Some are showcased more than others but not everyone gets featured every week, not even AJ.

slik 08-01-2018 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5153557)
So you'd have a person in the main event for two years and then kill them off/fire them and replace them with new up-and-comers?

Basically, yeah

WWE fans have shown they are more loyal to the #brand than individual wrestlers...keep the show 'fresh' constantly.

slik 08-01-2018 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5153558)
That's kinda why I've been really enjoying SmackDown. Some are showcased more than others but not everyone gets featured every week, not even AJ.

Exactly.

Even with it's smaller roster, you don't see everyone all the time. The Bar is a great example too. RAW, minus Ronda/Brock, trots out every big name it has every week but seems like they have nothing for them to do most of the time.

You can keep people on houseshows w/o having them on TV each week unless you need them. Just like any good tv show, let the story/creative be the base for the show.

Big Vic 08-01-2018 10:56 AM

I would have a FEW mainstays.

slik 08-01-2018 11:02 AM

Definitely a few, establishes good continuity for fans

Lock Jaw 08-01-2018 11:03 AM

slik would have fired AJ Styles by now

slik 08-01-2018 11:04 AM

WWE these days seems 'petrified' to release people b/c they are randomly paranoid about some other organization gaining a microcosm of popularity compared to WWE -- And let's be realistic, even if ROH or NJPW or IMPACT or whomever suddenly got a national TV deal on cable that was better than what they have now, said organization wouldn't come close to WWE's grasp of the market/name value, they'd just be bigger than they were before.

slik 08-01-2018 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5153569)
slik would have fired AJ Styles by now

Not AJ, AJ would be the definition of a cornerstone.

But someone like Shinsuke I'd book as a character in the main-event scene fora solid 3 years or so and then look honestly if he was needed after that.

#1-norm-fan 08-01-2018 12:33 PM

It's sad that we're even talking about a 2 year shelf lives for guys. Hotshotting really ruined wrestling. I still feel like there's a way you can build up your midcard as more of a focus so you don't have to overexpose your top acts without sacrificing the product though.

Evil Vito 08-01-2018 01:16 PM

Well for those who hate Matt Hardy, he's been tweeting old photos from his career for about a month and then posted this today:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To all that supported me in the independents &amp; OMEGA..<br><br>To the fans of Team Xtreme..<br><br>To the Mattitude Followers..<br><br>To the OUTSPOKEN fans who brought me back in 2005..<br><br>To the people who backed me when I was REINCARNATED in pro wrestling..<br><br>To the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WOKEN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WOKEN</a> Warriors..<br><br>THANK YOU. <a href="https://t.co/YkEILcoZh8">pic.twitter.com/YkEILcoZh8</a></p>&mdash; #WOKEN Matt Hardy (@MATTHARDYBRAND) <a href="https://twitter.com/MATTHARDYBRAND/status/1024654689986461697?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 1, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Appears to be teasing retirement.

Evil Vito 08-01-2018 01:19 PM

The Broken/Woken stuff just never took off in WWE for a variety of reasons...took ages to get started with it because of the legal issues, WWE not really understanding the character beyond "Matt Hardy laughs funny", etc. Plus his team with Bray doesn't seem to be particularly interesting. I'm not really sure they'd be able to salvage interest in the gimmick at this point.

But no matter how it was executed, he still got to do the gimmick in WWE which from all indications was one of his goals when he re-signed. He also got a nostalgia run with his brother which saw him get one of the biggest pops in recent memory and is the very definition of a "WrestleMania moment" the company always harps on about. He's about to turn 44 and has two young kids at home, hardly would be a surprise if he's decided to call it a career after SummerSlam.

Innovator 08-01-2018 02:02 PM

He also, you know, can't walk.

Emperor Smeat 08-01-2018 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5153551)
It's just like a soap-opera. A lot of characters come and go. Some, even main-event/major ones, only have 2-3 years worth of story to tell. Some might have a decade plus.

Bray is a perfect example - 2-3 years worth of good story & could have released him after that. WWE instead just hires and stockpiles people. A smaller, constantly cycled out roster would keep things fresh all the time. And you can always bring some people back, if needed, for another run down the line.

4-5 years might be a better sweet spot considering that was Stone Cold's length as a quality character and the Attitude Era in general.

Biggest flaw with a 2-3 year model plan is a lot less room for error on constantly pumping out quality stars or characters due to the shorter time frame and smaller roster. Even with a few mainstays as anchors, you still are going to risk hitting a really bad downturn after a while. Not even NXT was immune to this.

#1-norm-fan 08-01-2018 03:37 PM

As far as Slik's strategy, I don't think you'd need to release guys after 2-3 years. If they worked, got over and then started to get stale, you could just transition them into a part time role in the hopes of creating that Lesnar part timer aura. It too hard to find stars to just throw them out after a couple years.

Also, fake injury angles to give guys time off, keep them fresh character-wise and stretch out storylines are underused in wrestling.

Emperor Smeat 08-01-2018 04:11 PM

Even with the great idea of a rotation type system to keep storylines and stars fresh, feels like it would just fall apart unless major changes were also done to Creative and WWE's mindset.

Right now everything pretty much revolves around Vince's mood and their desire to only have 1 big star and the brand be the main focus while everyone else is irrelevant.

slik 08-01-2018 04:43 PM

I know a lot of large cast series, like telenovelas and soaps rotate characters out. Someone gets a big story/feud for 6 months and then disappears in the background for a few months afterwards.

Would Roman feel as 'forced' if he was in the main-event only half the time and maybe the other half the time a smaller storyline/feud and house show rasslin?

#1-norm-fan 08-01-2018 04:54 PM

He wouldn't. I actually don't think Reigns himself is bad. But at the same time, to Smeat's point, there would still be issues even if he were phased out once in a while. Like those brutal scripted promos and bad booking. Without those being addressed, it's a moot point.

slik 08-01-2018 05:00 PM

Just going to double post this here and the SD thread

#GiveBeckysAChance


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Jordan 08-01-2018 05:00 PM

I'm sure he would get a different "feel" if that was the case but I don't think it would happen unless they were able to get Cena to "fill in" for that time. But then again maybe the heat would follow him right back upon his return. I think they've gotten themselves into a trap where if they don't have "the guy" they can't sell more than 4,000 tickets anywhere. You gotta have "they guy" to bring in the casual type fans. As much as we wanted to see more Hogan, it always forced people to pay to see him on PPV or on tour. I think it's smart to actually book your top babyface that way instead of the heel (Lesnar). When has it every been special to see Roman, he's there every week. It would be so easy for Cole to promote Roman as "training for his upcoming match" or working with Make a Wish, or filming a TV show or movie... whatever they want to say to make it look like he's a big star. In that case you have to push the IC title as the "workers title" so that it's defended on a somewhat regular basis on TV so that people get their title match fix. I miss those days of the strong IC draw. Guys like Razor and Bret in particular were such great babyface "almost" top guys. I miss that.

Emperor Smeat 08-01-2018 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5153710)
I know a lot of large cast series, like telenovelas and soaps rotate characters out. Someone gets a big story/feud for 6 months and then disappears in the background for a few months afterwards.

Would Roman feel as 'forced' if he was in the main-event only half the time and maybe the other half the time a smaller storyline/feud and house show rasslin?

Maybe if WWE was a lot better at long term planning and writing. That's pretty much a key difference between WWE's Creative and soap operas or telenovelas. WWE shows very little respect to both long term stuff and continuity which is why you get Sasha vs Bayley becoming a mess of a feud.

Then you have stuff like Reigns where they already tried to push him to the side a bit or give him smaller stuff to do but never bother to fix the real issues with his character or his booking.

slik 08-01-2018 05:13 PM

Great point @ Jordan X -- and IIRC a lot of times the HBKs, Razors, Bret Harts carried house shows back in that day too...If Seth82 ever lurks and sees this he could probably verify that.

I am also wondering where Dean will go when he comes back -- but he's a guy like Seth Rollins and Balor and Elias you can load the house shows with and they all come across as big enough stars to draw.

Bad News Gertner 08-01-2018 06:40 PM

Strong IC draws are very few and far between. Nobody drew in the Bret/Shawn/Razor IC era. The IC title used to headline the B Shows for the most part.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-01-2018 07:14 PM

on another note - thick battied indy wrestler Jordynne Grace is my dream woman.

slik 08-01-2018 07:25 PM

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Evil Vito 08-01-2018 09:45 PM

July 2018 was the first month Jushin Thunder Liger didn't wrestle in since August 1995.

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Bad News Gertner 08-01-2018 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5153434)
My local indie is having their 25th Anniversary Show. So far they've announced D Lo Brown, John Morrison, Chris Sabin and Tommy Dreamer. Can't wait to meet Dreamer. Our indie fed is a awesome.

Just announced Kiera Hogan from Impact, Eddie Edwards and Sami Callahan

Mr. Nerfect 08-02-2018 03:57 AM

Cycling talent makes a lot of sense. Especially in an era where everything is so cold. But that used to be the way things worked. You'd keep talent when they worked really well, but if they got stale, you could refresh things by sending them on their way so they could come back fresh or go somewhere else and help that place out. It doesn't mean you have to cap acts that are over and doing a great job. But you could get rid of the people that have been around for ages and just don't mean anything anymore.

Shadrick 08-02-2018 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5153751)
on another note - thick battied indy wrestler Jordynne Grace is my dream woman.

pics pls. ive already googled but this is for my tpww brethren.

Bad News Gertner 08-02-2018 08:22 AM

Quite the husky dame

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-02-2018 08:35 AM

I'm into it.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-02-2018 08:41 AM

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.co...2014/06/JG.jpg

she's got a booty that's forever on duty.

Evil Vito 08-02-2018 08:41 AM

She's only 22 as well. Too bad ROH wrestler Jonathan Gresham's already put a ring on it.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-02-2018 08:44 AM

I say we find him and kill him.

Evil Vito 08-02-2018 08:47 AM

I'd be into that feud

Jordan 08-02-2018 10:10 AM

I've jerked it to Jordynne Grace before for sure.

Lock Jaw 08-02-2018 10:33 AM

Butterface

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Ol Dirty Dastard 08-02-2018 10:42 AM

I actually am in love with her face.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-02-2018 10:44 AM

but I heart chubby faces.

Evil Vito 08-02-2018 10:47 AM

Trying to think of the last rasslin braud I've jerked my gerk to. In a world of Instagram models uploading 34938434 sexy pics a day I think I've kinda not had the compulsion to blast off to the women of rasslin as I did in my teens.

Pretty sure I've paid Toni Storm's page a few visits.

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-02-2018 10:51 AM

Jordynne Grace is the last one I hobbed my knob to lol

Jordan 08-02-2018 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5153981)
Jordynne Grace is the last one I hobbed my knob to lol

If you are looking for the PAWG type. Check out Rachel Evans. She claims not to be "just a butt", so you know it's good. I don't think she's a wrestler but a podcast host/super fan.

Seanny One Ball 08-02-2018 01:40 PM

Watching Shawn Michaels Mr. Wrestlemania DVD I got today for £4.
Could have gotten the Warrior one for £10. 7 Hours of Ultimate Warrior must be about 140 matches

Evil Vito 08-02-2018 01:58 PM

WWE has made contract offers to Pentagon and Fenix

Collecting more toys just so nobody else can have them

Innovator 08-02-2018 02:28 PM

It's gonna be only the Young Bucks left

Emperor Smeat 08-02-2018 02:32 PM

https://i.imgur.com//RDBcSJml.jpg

Evil Vito 08-02-2018 03:49 PM

*Pentagon does a top rope flip dive*

Cole: 'WOAH! Pentagon just loves having fun!'

Graves: 'Cero Miedo Cole!'

Coach: 'A Pentagon is a five-sided shape'

Cole: 'Pentagon in control as Raw rolls on!'

*ad break*

Innovator 08-02-2018 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5154061)
*Pentagon does a top rope flip dive*

Cole: 'WOAH! Pentagon just loves having fun!'

Graves: 'Cero Miedo Cole!'

Coach: 'You see...in my geography classes growing up, I was always told that a Penta-'

Cole: 'Pentagon in control as Raw rolls on!'

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Big Vic 08-02-2018 04:16 PM

Cole: And we back from break and it's been all pentagon!

Coach: The word of this hour is Pentagon

Graves: I spoke with pentagon earlier today and he told me he is excited for the all womens PPV brought to by Stephanie McMahon

Coach: The word of this hour is Stephanie McMahon

Simple Fan 08-02-2018 04:20 PM

My god I hope they don't sign. They'd probably change Pentagon's name to rhombus or something ridiculous.

slik 08-02-2018 05:06 PM

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slik 08-02-2018 05:21 PM

Pentagon loves to have fun!!

Emperor Smeat 08-02-2018 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5154078)
My god I hope they don't sign. They'd probably change Pentagon's name to rhombus or something ridiculous.

Probably call him PJ or Hexagon.

Simple Fan 08-02-2018 06:02 PM

PJ Hexagon it is.

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Emperor Smeat 08-02-2018 07:40 PM

Apparently Big Cass is now going by the name of Big Cazz in the indies.

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Bad News Gertner 08-02-2018 07:43 PM

Lol that show looks amazing.

Sixx 08-02-2018 07:50 PM

Why not go with "Big Ass"?

Bad News Gertner 08-02-2018 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5153861)
Just announced Kiera Hogan from Impact, Eddie Edwards and Sami Callahan

They just announced Scarlett Bordeaux. Probably gonna have sex with her.

Simple Fan 08-02-2018 11:22 PM

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Tom Guycott 08-03-2018 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5153551)
It's just like a soap-opera. A lot of characters come and go. Some, even main-event/major ones, only have 2-3 years worth of story to tell. Some might have a decade plus.

Bray is a perfect example - 2-3 years worth of good story & could have released him after that. WWE instead just hires and stockpiles people. A smaller, constantly cycled out roster would keep things fresh all the time. And you can always bring some people back, if needed, for another run down the line.

Or, you know, actually give people you're not using time off or permission to work elsewhere.

Funny how someone could concievably have 8 months worth of stuff, then be off TV doing nothing and still have to follow the company around. I mean, when was the last time Zack Ryder even had a match? The only people who get time to freshen up/rest up is, ironically, someone who is either seriously injured or pregnant.

And I've made my feelings known about the "WWE instead just hires and stockpiles people" part... I believe they do it just so that person with buzz isn't attracting the buzz elsewhere. I first noticed it with CM Punk. He was getting all this attention in the indies for his matches everywhere with Colt. WWE hired him and sent him to developmental, and had no idea what to do with him and were ready to release him... after essentially wasting a bunch of time and effort because he made a name for himself outside of the machine. It's only gotten worse over time, especially with rise of NJPW worldwide, and the resurgance of wrestling in the UK.

You now have a glut of actual talent in NXT. You have an entire division nobody thinks about in 205 Live full of talented motherfuckers vying for the "This Flippy Shit Is All Vince Thinks You Are" purple belt. You have them trying to expand this "Women's rEvolution" to sign a ton of ladies from all around he world... just to have Sasha vs. Bayley become the female Cena vs. Orton. And even when it looks like they might try to build new stars, they either pull hotshot bullshit like with Roman or Jinder or they cut the nuts off of anyone gaining traction. Watch the B Team fizzle out in a few months because WWE will be done with them. Won't even be AoP they get fed to, because both of those teams will fuck off to oblivion when War <s>Machine</s> Raiders show up on the main roster (or Street Profits, if they blow the load of Hanson and Rowe meeting Harper and Rowan in short order).

Tom Guycott 08-03-2018 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5154137)
PJ Hexagon it is.

Vs Alberto Of The River.

Gawd... what was that advertisement with that on there? I know ADR wasn't the only name butchered.

Tom Guycott 08-03-2018 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5154170)
Apparently Big Cass is now going by the name of Big Cazz in the indies.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/BigCassWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BigCassWWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMickFoley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealMickFoley</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/THETOMMYDREAMER?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@THETOMMYDREAMER</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialHacksaw?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OfficialHacksaw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/realellsworth?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realellsworth</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/facesoffear?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#facesoffear</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BTWwrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BTWwrestling</a> LIVE IN SPARTANBURG! Get your tix @ <a href="https://t.co/jctFWMZjjF">https://t.co/jctFWMZjjF</a> <a href="https://t.co/Ytmh1FC380">pic.twitter.com/Ytmh1FC380</a></p>&mdash; Big Time Wrestling (@BTWwrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/BTWwrestling/status/1025102277328232448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Also, I love how "The Master of the Empire Elbow" has to change his name, but they just plopped "Emma" on there like it ain't no thang.

Cool King 08-03-2018 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5154170)
Apparently Big Cass is now going by the name of Big Cazz in the indies.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/BigCassWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BigCassWWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMickFoley?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealMickFoley</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/THETOMMYDREAMER?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@THETOMMYDREAMER</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/OfficialHacksaw?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@OfficialHacksaw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/realellsworth?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@realellsworth</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/facesoffear?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#facesoffear</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/BTWwrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BTWwrestling</a> LIVE IN SPARTANBURG! Get your tix @ <a href="https://t.co/jctFWMZjjF">https://t.co/jctFWMZjjF</a> <a href="https://t.co/Ytmh1FC380">pic.twitter.com/Ytmh1FC380</a></p>&mdash; Big Time Wrestling (@BTWwrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/BTWwrestling/status/1025102277328232448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 2, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Why not "Big Kass"?

It still sounds the same as "Big Cass", whereas "Big Cazz" doesn't because of the Z's.

Gerard 08-03-2018 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 5154307)
Why not "Big Kass"?

It still sounds the same as "Big Cass", whereas "Big Cazz" doesn't because of the Z's.

"Big generic sack of shit" would be better, and more truthful overall.

erickman 08-03-2018 09:52 AM

I want to know is both the faces of fear in the bullet club or just ming.

GD 08-03-2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by /r/SquaredCircle

I fed a bot a years worth of Raw recaps and made it write out an episode of Raw

Raw begins with braun strowman and dolph ziggler. Angle tries to play a happy person but he's no one tonight. Kurt makes roman into angle and says that all the compliments. Paul throws sunil at summerslam and says that only reason was doing what smells him lesnar. Braun asks if anyone is in charge and says he refuses the universal title and is ready for brock whenever he wants to face ziggler and alexa lashley.
finn is in the ringside to face off bayley and says he is going to break his arm. Everyone attacks the crowd boos hard but he's faced every move and throws the match

backstage roman interview with elias and mcintyre. He says that it won a match since rumble but lays it out to be able to beat up hardy to strip lesnar of the first ever universal title.
ember moon and the revival lay into the ring. Seth sarcastically congratulates the revival. Corbin can't stop walking backstage. ruby says she's going to put stephanie and throws out seth. the revival takes on kevin owens who blocks out punch. Angle interfere match until summerslam.
triple h is interviewed backstage and says he is going to call stephanie to tell her that rousey doesn't have his hair and says she's banned.

mickie james is facing tyler breeze and won in throwaway match
the b team with another chance and tells them that they are two people with the same title and tells roode and titus graves that jojo is still there. roode and graves hits him with the shatter machine and won
raw superstars come out next week and tries to get him to cancel elias. He threatens nothing and leaves. elias strikes up a match and tries to get traded to summerslam. the crowd is interviewed backstage with apollo.

The ring has dash wilder against strowman but admits he doesn't have any title. paul heyman rushes out with another title and says that only rules are going to be enforced. Ziggler holds the title once again and flattens corbin. He threatens angle.

universal champion sasha says he's going to find sunil and tells interview that she deserves a long title after last week. Drew mcintyre challenges sasha and says she's about to be deleted.
* backstage elias and police escort angle





#1-norm-fan 08-03-2018 02:04 PM

Still more logical than an actual Raw.

Innovator 08-03-2018 03:36 PM

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Lock Jaw 08-03-2018 04:28 PM

Who the hell is that beside Ciampa?

Lock Jaw 08-03-2018 04:29 PM

Oh, wait..... Never mind..... it is Shayna..... thought it was a dude and was confused as to who it was and what title he was holding.....

Bad News Gertner 08-03-2018 04:58 PM

Might as well be

Lock Jaw 08-03-2018 05:05 PM

Yeah.... I think Shayna has a bright future as a heel on the main roster, and feel like she will be a better "MMA heel" than Ronda Rousey could ever be, because Shayna has the "advantage" of not being attractive at all

Fignuts 08-03-2018 05:15 PM

I really don't understand why Carmella is anywhere close to a title. She is literally the same character as Alexa Bliss, but worse in every way.

Emperor Smeat 08-03-2018 05:44 PM

Source is sketchy but rumor going around online teases WWE is likely ending the brand split next year in order to keep FOX happy. Supposedly WWE is worried FOX might back out of the tv deal early if ratings keep sliding downwards or have a lot lower patience level for Smackdown's struggles.

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Originally Posted by 411mania.com
According to sources, there is some backstage speculation that WWE may once again be ending their brand split in 2019 in order to keep their new deal with FOX. WWE officials are reportedly concerned that FOX could back out of the deal due to ratings.

As previously reported here on eWrestlingNews.com, WWE and FOX agreed to a five-year deal back in May that is worth $1.025 billion for SmackDown! to air live on the FOX Network beginning in October 2019. WWE officials, including Vince McMahon, are reportedly worried that FOX could back out of a long-term deal due to the ratings for SmackDown! Live. If this were to happen, WWE would more than likely panic and end the brand split.

It should be noted that the exact details of the FOX-WWE contract are unknown and it’s said that FOX likely couldn’t back out of a deal worth that much so easily. The worst case scenario is that WWE SmackDown! Live would be moved to FS1 if it can’t compete live on Friday night’s.

Rumor might be related to the recent Observer Newsletter that mentioned FOX is already struggling a bit trying to fill in the gaps from UFC's programming without having WWE produce even more content than they already are. Same for FOX already preparing to spend a ton more money just on their cross-promotional plans for Smackdown.

Emperor Smeat 08-03-2018 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5154476)
I really don't understand why Carmella is anywhere close to a title. She is literally the same character as Alexa Bliss, but worse in every way.

Its been speculated for a long while its likely due to two reasons.

The first being she fits Vince's ideal image for a female star. She's blonde, has a model type body, and no real wrestling experience prior to WWE.

The other being the rumor Vince actually wanted Ellsworth to be the first ever MitB winner as some sort of twisted gag. Since he couldn't get that done, Mella with the MitB case was the next best option. Its also why they had to redo the first MitB match because of the backlash they got when Ellsworth grabbed the case to help Mella win.

Bad News Gertner 08-03-2018 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5154470)
Yeah.... I think Shayna has a bright future as a heel on the main roster, and feel like she will be a better "MMA heel" than Ronda Rousey could ever be, because Shayna has the "advantage" of not being attractive at all

I agree with all of that

GD 08-03-2018 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5154470)
Yeah.... I think Shayna has a bright future as a heel on the main roster, and feel like she will be a better "MMA heel" than Ronda Rousey could ever be, because Shayna has the "advantage" of not being attractive at all

Shayna reminds a lot of Roman Reigns.

Fignuts 08-03-2018 08:50 PM

Fucking how?

Ol Dirty Dastard 08-03-2018 08:55 PM

because dave is insane

Savio 08-03-2018 09:38 PM

SHE'S THE BIG BITCH!

GD 08-03-2018 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5154476)
I really don't understand why Carmella is anywhere close to a title. She is literally the same character as Alexa Bliss, but worse in every way.

I feel the same way. Alexa has improved significantly since she won the Smackdown Women's title for the first title. She feels quite credible and worthy of her program with Ronda Rousey. On the other hand, Carmella gaining pinball victories over both Asuka and Charlotte seems a bit excessive.

Bad News Gertner 08-03-2018 10:46 PM

Some lovely, lovely individual made a 14 minute Clothesline From Hell comp on youtube.

It's as amazing as it sounds


Jordan 08-03-2018 11:17 PM

Billy Gun sold it best.

GD 08-04-2018 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru Devendra Banhart (Post 5154520)
Shayna reminds a lot of Roman Reigns.

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5154533)
Fucking how?

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Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5154534)
because dave is insane

https://i.imgur.com/CgoHpU0.jpg

Jordan 08-04-2018 02:01 AM

Shayna is having the best matches of any woman in WWE I think. I dunno. I think she's the best. Her promo is a little hit and miss for me, but she's getting better and better. Not at the level of some of the top NXT female promo's but she's awesome. Shayna vs Ronda will be big time when that goes down.

Cool King 08-04-2018 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5154482)
Source is sketchy but rumor going around online teases WWE is likely ending the brand split next year in order to keep FOX happy.

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Cool King 08-04-2018 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5154470)
Yeah.... I think Shayna has a bright future as a heel on the main roster, and feel like she will be a better "MMA heel" than Ronda Rousey could ever be, because Shayna has the "advantage" of not being attractive at all

I was actually expecting you to say Sonya Deville and not Ronda Rousey.

Cool King 08-04-2018 05:06 AM

I've also just discovered that Deville is in a relationship with Seth Rollin's ex, Zahra Schreiber.


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