If you follow Dark....this is for you.

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Yeah they aren't making things better for themselves...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Weird that the super fan-friendly, all inclusive, totally not like the evil WWE empire, happiest place on earth wrestling company was so concerned about wiping their main event off Twitter, since Tony said they had a storyline explanation of Kenny sucking at making bombs. 🤔💣 <a href="https://t.co/jcbLjeZx98">https://t.co/jcbLjeZx98</a> <a href="https://t.co/bqOuFrJubZ">pic.twitter.com/bqOuFrJubZ</a></p>&mdash; Meltzer Said What? (@MeltzerSaidWhat) <a href="https://twitter.com/MeltzerSaidWhat/status/1368987390870749191?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chris Benoit.






- WWE Says what?






You'll never believe what else WWE wants you to pretend never happened! Click here to see NEVER BEFORE SEEN footage of the most crazy canceled thing of things.

Sigh, it's been a while...

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That is a bad argument, always.

Your post literally referenced WWE.

https://scontent.ftpf1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...9c&oe=606DF4F7

This is getting into Bruce Pritchard levels of denial.

Wait is that from the company?

EDIT: looked a little closer and saw the "news" bit. It's bad, but it would be 100p worse if that was an official thing.

It popped up in my feed, and it was likely fanmade. But, holy shit.

"Don't let the fact that Nick Patrick slow counted the "fast count" against Sting vs. Hogan take away from how it was a great match."

The ending was awful. The idea that it destroyed the entire show though, which some are trying to assert, I don't think that's the case. The anti-AEW people are jumping on this hard like it justifies every negative thing they've ever said about the company, the pro-AEW people are acting like the ending didn't matter at all. At the end of the day it was a great PPV with a terrible botched ending. Credit should be given for the great show and criticism should be given for the botch. Those two things can happen simultaneously.

Braun Strowman winning the tag titles with a 10 year old is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen in wrestling and it will most likely never be topped. That didn't ruin that Wrestlemania though, it was just a stupid part of the show.

You mean the tweet I posted about how AEW is trying to erase the botch from twitter?

You do know that just because the guy mentioned WWE in his tweet does not mean I referenced WWE.

In fact all I said was AEW isn't making things better by trying to get it taken off Twitter so more people don't see it.

But if that is the game you want to play, please explain how it is you think the fact that WWE doesn't promote a guy who murdered his family somehow means AEW trying to hide their botch is what, good?

While the Braun tag team thing was dumb, I will say it was rather fun live to see.

Lol a 10 year old winning a title happened only to knock Rene Dupree out of the record books as youngest champ

lol for real? That's fun

If we are comparing Braun and that dumb kid with the Revolution dud, the dud was a far worse experience.

Hahaha, I heard people defending AEW removing people’s content being defended as “It’s not like AEW is personally doing it. Don’t blame AEW.” Then Girl on Cinema shared a notification saying that AEW had manually reviewed her content and had it removed.

Fuck these cunts.

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Includes going to an all you can eat buffet with The Painmaker!

Would have loved to have met Chris Jericho once upon a time. Now you’d have to pay me. Fuck that bloated piece of shit.

You're such a weird guy. It's baffling.

Found this interesting since it usually doesn't work this way for trademarks involving real names.

WWE got their trademark for "Dean Ambrose" initially rejected due to them not getting consent from Jon Moxley despite that not being his real name nor a ring name he used in the indies and the character being owned by WWE. Its all due to a snafu WWE made when they filed the trademark that ended up giving Moxley legal priority over the name and WWE being very lazy when it came to correcting the mistake.

The way the USPTO responded, seems even if WWE fixed it, Moxley might still end up with some ownership of the name.

https://heelbynature.com/wrestling-n...itten-consent/

Oh, and it gets so much worse from there. Khan responded, and it opened the door for the Horde. Possibly even pictures getting leaked onto 4Chan

It would be awesome if Moxley does get to keep it, then they can make some jobber in AEW Dean Ambrose, Vince would be pissed lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Meltzer in this week's WON, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRevolution?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRevolution</a> grossed around $7 million dollars in PPV buys, making it the highest-grossing non-WWE show in the US since 1999.<br><br>B/R Live numbers up 50%. 20-40% increase in international streaming numbers. Record number of buys, too.</p>&mdash; Andy H. Murray (@andyhmurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/andyhmurray/status/1370373260492308484?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

Just watched the Christian Cage segment from this week....

Is that Eddie Kingston guy supposed to be "good"/"a big name"? He literally looked like one of those dudes from one of those backyard rassling videos.

Anyways... Christian should definitely win the world title off of Omega.

Guess he is more of an "Enzo" in that he can talk shit. I dunno, I'm not impressed.




Christian still needs to get the hell off my TV. I'd rather watch Baron Corbin

good to see you can still make money from a ppv, after wwe killed the ppv with the network.

I'd rather you just leave TPWW again and this time not return

Sorry, that was harsh..... but you don't besmirch Christian :foc:

Kingston definitely has a look that WWE would've never gone for but in every way he has the type of talent they or anyone could use. I'd recommend you give him a chance or watch more of his AEW work. They've pushed him appropriately and he's been awesome. Absolutely one of the best characters in AEW.

One but picky critisim I have for Christian is that I don't like the "stoic" angle he's played in his AEW appearances this far. Let's be honest he is not intimidating at all from head to toe, so we have him walk out all Eastwood like and not talk? His money is on the mic and in the ring. The angle was good on Dynamite but still I'd preferred to actually hear from him afterwards.

Also "lol" at Omega making fun of him being all "Don, quick 69 me" but then they actually 69ed.

It's like "bro, you are so gay!!" Then proceeding to suck a dick and just laughing "haha look! This is how gay you are!! Mmmfmfmfmfm"

"69 me Don" was the funniest thing AEW ever produced :rofl:

I think Kenny Omega is bi so he's kind of half-gay

He totally has that backyard look :lol:

Kingston's great on the mic, the guy can sell pretty much anything and get it over

I didn't think of that as a "gay moment" just reminded me of something immature like DX in '97 or me and my friends around the same time.

would be funny if Paul Wight was dressed as one of Kenny's cleaners for his entrance

Christian is where he should have always been, in the shadows. I'd like to see Mark Stunt v Christian in a battle of the who gives a fuck


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Just want to say I can't remember when I've been this pumped for the next episode of Dynamite. The St. Patricks Day SLAM is gonna be awesome I just know it. But it's not even just the card they have lined up. It's the shake up they've so clearly done after Revolution. Sure some stories are going to continue but they will obviously evolve and bring in different characters (Mox/Kingston/Kenny/Good Bro's/Christian). It already feels so fresh compared to the rut I felt AEW was in for the past two months.

I have a feeling that Sting/Archer/Darby will end up being allies against Team Taz who I could see scooping up Scorpio. Penta/Cody is going to be sick and I can't wait to see where Penta goes after. Also, the Inner Circle vs MJF Alliance is a great evolution and I'm hoping it ends up in Stadium Stampede.

I think one thing that is feeling dry to me though is the Young Bucks. I feel that as fun as their matches can be that "I've seen it all". When they are on, they are awesome but ultimately right now I think they are just hitting their spots and I don't feel a very strong connection to their characters. They come off pretty fake to me. But still yeah they do cool spots. I think I'll be more interested when something fresh happens, a break up or a heel run. Just something different.

Isn't that what the Bucks always have been though? I think the "advantage" they had in years past was less eyeballs familiar with the same shit on a different night.


Never understood their appeal, really.

I guess so. I've never had the opportunity to watch them week in and out for this long of a time. I was most exposed to them in NJPW which I watched occasionally. I was a fan from ROH though. I saw their ROH debut at The Hammerstein and I was like "wow they shouldn't be opening the show".

Kinda hoping FTR get the belts back so they can use em with the new faction vs faction war against Santana/Ortiz.

Yeah that would be good. Santana/Ortiz are over due for a solid title run.

Oh no apparently AEW taped ST PATRICKS DAY SLAM already and there are spoilers available. MUST...NOT...READ!

Apparently Paul Wight strips Jim Ross nude in a BBQ Death Match

I should have put that in a spoiler tag...

Easy not to, I don't follow a bunch of sites that post them now.

You schumma bitch!! Schnuva Bitch!!

And this I need to see!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What?!? Is that Captain Insano’s music? <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulWight?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PaulWight</a> explains why we might see Insano in the ring to <a href="https://twitter.com/ReneePaquette?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ReneePaquette</a> on the latest episode of Oral Sessions <a href="https://t.co/BQQPSzt9jU">pic.twitter.com/BQQPSzt9jU</a></p>&mdash; The Volume (@TheVolumeSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheVolumeSports/status/1370027319092416512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm not surprised it was taped, they've been on a pretty consistent taping schedule since May. Live Dynamite on a Wednesday, tape the next Dynamite on Thursday, and then everyone gets 12 days off before they have to be at the next live Dynamite.

Given the times I prefer they make the talent do that then have to go to back and forth between home and Jacksonville every week. That said, it's surprising that Dynamite spoilers aren't readily available most of the time.

I'M MARKING

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LOL What?

So they did the most PPV buys for a wrestling show not produced by WWE since 1999. So basically they beat 2 companies that were within 2 years of being bankrupt and Impact...WHAT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT!!!!!!

An impressive feat, none the less, for such a young company.

Yeah and it also shows how badly wrestling has fallen these past 20 years under WWE's dominance and Impact's inability to be a true rival to them.

Only other company besides Impact who could have produced that type of PPV number pre-AEW is Ring of Honor and they've never gotten close to doing so.

WarnerMedia is probably very happy since the biggest goal they had for AEW was for them to help grow their B/R Live subs and they've been doing that right from the start.

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Then they should just say that. Acting like it is some massive thing that they sold more PPVs than the company they are working with and tongue in cheek burying doesn't mean jack.

Plus who cares what they grossed, that means literally nothing. What did they net? If they have the best deal with PPV ever, maybe the PPV provider only got 50% of that.

$3.5 Million minus all expenses and they probably took a net loss, although that is not much of a brag on Twitter thing, is it?

Literally only you and the saddest poster on TPWW care

LOL I'm sorry but I think it's funny when they frame something that means nothing like it is so great triumph.

Grossing $7,000,000.00 means absolutely nothing, yet they are bragging about it. To me, that is funny, and again to me, it is funny that anybody is buying that it is an accomplishment.

You do realize there is a reason why they aren't bragging about what the Net was, right?

And maybe I am the only one who cares about the truth instead of believing all the carny nonsense they try to spin. Getting upset that I'm not "All In" on every propaganda story seems pretty sad to me.

That's not that far off from what WWE gets on average for their monthly PPVs on the Network.

$10 at around 1 million paid subscribers on average comes out to $10 million for gross revenue in the US and around $15 million when including global.

Even when factoring in the different costs eating into it for WWE and AEW, the gap probably isn't that huge in the end since WWE's costs are much higher than AEW in general.

WWE reports profits as a publicly traded company.

AEW has Dave Meltzer spin grossing $7 million.

It's not the same thing.

You're right, from now to be counted as successful you must make one billion in your first year or you are a failure.

By the way, there are only 135 companies in the U.S. that are worth that much. So everyone but those 135 suck ass (including you and me I guess.)

No, the people who take an irrelevant number and portray it for something that it is not are the only ones that suck ass.

That is the only logical question.

lol, they can hit all the marks they want, you'll keep moving those goal posts to bitch about something else.

Motherfucker seriously flipped out because AEW’s PPV numbers were reported in a way that was too positive for his liking. Amazing. :lol:

I think the PPV numbers are a big accomplishment. Xrod has a point to some extent, but I think failing to realize how many companies have tried to meet a goal as large as what AEW has just hit. Many companies have tried to run PPV and fallen far short of this or any AEW number. NJPW, ROH, TNA/Impact, AAA, MLW and of course as mentioned WCW. I understand Rod's specific annoyance with the brag but this is what promotion is. WWE straight up lie's ever year they hold Mania by adding 10-20,000 or more to attendance. AEW has accomplished more in it's two years than any company outside of WWE in over 2 decades. From the initial ticket demand, PPV numbers that continue to grow, TV ratings which stand among the top of the list every Wednesday and of course the TV rights deal which outside of WWE is the biggest ever.

The perspective to take is not "oh they still haven't beaten WWE", I don't think that's what anyone is saying. People are praising the success that when compared to any other promotion in the last 20 years is far and above at the top. Some of the AEW die hard's here are obviously incredibly supportive and proud of the product and it's success. I think it's worth mentioning that AEW, Tony and the EVP's early on all said that their goal wasn't to "beat WWE" but to become a viable alternative and successful in it's own world. Which they have done and hopefully continue to do.

Not flipped out, not angry, just amused.

You are 100% right, and for the record, I call bullshit on WWE's inflated attendance numbers too.

Well, however you wanna describe your reaction... holy fuck. It was really far less than you’re making it out to be.

Based on your reaction to THIS tweet, it’s like someone hailed AEW Revolution as the beginning of the end for WWE or any company that may dare challenge them on their climb to entertainment supremacy.

It’s literally just stating the numbers and giving historical relevance and you saw that and decided it was bragging so much that you needed to stop the injustice.

I want to start a new discussion
 

Who on the AEW Roster that appears on Dynamite are you ready for Tony to cut ties with when their contract is up? Who are you tired of seeing?

This for me is kind of tough because I often feel this way for certain talents. And if AEW is going to be bringing in disgruntled former WWE talents they will have to make some room.

1. Kip Sabian (sorry Slik). This guy really don't do it for me, and I can't really see a way that he becomes a drawing card in any way as a heel or babyface.

2. Miro, I'm not ready to say "don't resign him" but there is just something about his in ring work that bores the shit out of me even when he's at his best. Letting him run his own gimmick with his video game fandom and his designer dork wear also does absolutely nothing for me. I love his look, he looks awesome but his work on the mic and in the ring never matches that potential for me. He hasn't had a great chance at a good match yet so I am willing to give him a go with one of the top stars. But I don't expect my opinion to change. I really think he was botched from the start. Kind of an impulse signing when they didn't have a great story for him to make much of an impact.

3. Jake Hagger. He's really done nothing of consequence minus his matches with Moxley and Wardlow. Every other match has been boring and he is death on the mic. I don't see the point, he's not adding value anywhere in my opinion. I'd let his contract be one and done at the end of it.

4. Matt Sydal. I just don't really see the point in this guy, he has no character at all and quickly became just another guy. Why don't they attempt to do something unique with him? Otherwise what is the point?

5. Jim Ross. There is no longer credibility added to the broadcast by JR. He just doesn't fit in and has too many bouts of seeping negativity. If they need to keep him around then perhaps an advisory role or something backstage but for the love of God he's gotta go. They have a lot of people who could replace him, or just have a two man booth with Excalibur and Tony. JR doesn't come off like a fan of AEW to me he's coming off like he's trying to like the show more often than not. When I read that Joey Styles recently trademarked his name, it gave me some hope. How cool would it be to see Styles, Excalibur and Schiavone on Dynamite regularly?


There are other talents I feel that are stalled. Hobbs for instance has sucked since joining Team Tazz, he should've stayed a babyface for sure. QT and Dustin should be dealt a better hand than they've gotten recently. The style they bring is too valuable to be left behind with all the high flyers in AEW. The entire Dark Order other than John Silver seems quite aimless right now, I don't know that all of them will need to be there long term. Luchasarus will need to go heel eventually, and learn a less or two from Paul Wight. He could be something but his attempt at being a giant cruiserweight isn't going to work long term no matter how the crowd will pop for his spots. Crowd pops ain't sustaining interest.

A lot of my other problem performers have been relegated to Dark which I never watch anymore so that's good news for me.

Forgot to mention "lol" at JR's reaction to Christian's music hitting being ".... the hell is that?"

I'd even have taken Michael Cole yelling "OH MY! Could it be?!" over that reaction.

That was really really bland you are right.

But 100% accurate. Who the fuck would recognize Christian's 2 themes.




Blue Luchador Masked wrestler: El Cage




or gtfo.

And I made an initial joke about it, why are they bragging about beating Impact PPV. It wasn't a big deal at all to me. But in typical TPWW fashion, there had to a rally against anything not 100% blind support towards AEW. So I simply mentioned there is a reason they aren't reporting the Net Profit.

Clearly it was originally me thinking it's a funny thing to brag about. I can't help it that people are so sensitive that they can't tell when I start out a post with "LOL" that it is funny, not a tirade.

Posting it here cause I'm sure it'll be tied into something...

According to Wrestlenomics, current estimates for Revolution pay-per-view buys are around 125,000.

Would break AEW's all-time record for PPV buys by 20k that was previously held by last year's Double or Nothing event.

Also based on updated estimates, AEW is now currently expected to have made $5 million in gross revenues from the event and around $1.4 million in net profits after revenue splits and costs are factored in.

Even with the new lower revenues estimates, Revolution would still be the highest grossing revenues non-WWE event since 1999.

A net profit of $1.4 million is a much better number to hype. It's not a large number in the grand scheme of things, but making a 7 figure profit for one night is a success.

Edit:How does Meltzer seriously keep making money in this industry, he is never right!

anyone watching dark tonight

On and off, working on some stuff for my game as well.

Paul Wight is really damn solid behind the desk.

paul is not to bad on color

damn this is on the same time as raw

Hahaha, Tony Khan has appeared as a GM even though he said that he wouldn’t do that shit. Tony Shiavone tried to kayfabe it on Twitter. This is amazing.

He is about 6 months away from becoming WCW Vince Russo.

Cody vs. Penta is kicking off tomorrow's show based on AEW's paid ad segment on Impact tonight.

Then he skipped the step where he is shot from the back while he sits in a big chair and only his hands are visible onscreen like he's Dr. Claw.

Bro.

Someone recap me on Nerfect retweets from not watching television. thanks

moron

pathetic noid spends more time looking at tweets than watching youtube recaps

If you bothered to follow the live threads we addressed that but go ahead and be edgy aboot it. :rofl:

Don't misunderstand. He's excited because they are doing things like "kayfabe" and other things. Let him be amazed. :rofl:

Kinda sad that "person in rasslin lied" amazes anyone at this point, but to each his own!

Wish TPWW hid quoted posts from people you have on ignore. It's the only exposure I have to their idiocy at this point.

Just got around to watching Dark Elevation.

I really enjoyed Paul Wight on comms.

Like many, I'm feeling JR is not quite all there. Tony K must surely be looking at succession planning for JR.

If JR is there for recognition factor, and Tony K wants the familiar voice / face on comms greeting fans to Dynamite, then potentially he has a comms team here with Tony Schiavone and Paul Wight. Tony on pbp and Wight on colour would give a familiar voice to existing AeW fans and older WCW fans, as well as a familiar face in Wight with casual WWE fans recognising him.