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Volare 03-09-2021 01:16 PM

If you follow Dark....this is for you.

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xrodmuc316 03-09-2021 01:25 PM

Yeah they aren't making things better for themselves...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Weird that the super fan-friendly, all inclusive, totally not like the evil WWE empire, happiest place on earth wrestling company was so concerned about wiping their main event off Twitter, since Tony said they had a storyline explanation of Kenny sucking at making bombs. 🤔💣 <a href="https://t.co/jcbLjeZx98">https://t.co/jcbLjeZx98</a> <a href="https://t.co/bqOuFrJubZ">pic.twitter.com/bqOuFrJubZ</a></p>&mdash; Meltzer Said What? (@MeltzerSaidWhat) <a href="https://twitter.com/MeltzerSaidWhat/status/1368987390870749191?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

drave 03-09-2021 01:36 PM

Chris Benoit.






- WWE Says what?






You'll never believe what else WWE wants you to pretend never happened! Click here to see NEVER BEFORE SEEN footage of the most crazy canceled thing of things.

xrodmuc316 03-09-2021 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5433835)
Chris Benoit.






- WWE Says what?






You'll never believe what else WWE wants you to pretend never happened! Click here to see NEVER BEFORE SEEN footage of the most crazy canceled thing of things.


Sigh, it's been a while...

https://i.imgflip.com/4oq3k4.jpg

That is a bad argument, always.

drave 03-09-2021 04:01 PM

Your post literally referenced WWE.

Vastardikai 03-09-2021 04:13 PM

https://scontent.ftpf1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...9c&oe=606DF4F7

This is getting into Bruce Pritchard levels of denial.

screech 03-09-2021 04:15 PM

Wait is that from the company?

EDIT: looked a little closer and saw the "news" bit. It's bad, but it would be 100p worse if that was an official thing.

Vastardikai 03-09-2021 05:04 PM

It popped up in my feed, and it was likely fanmade. But, holy shit.

"Don't let the fact that Nick Patrick slow counted the "fast count" against Sting vs. Hogan take away from how it was a great match."

Nark Order 03-09-2021 05:51 PM

The ending was awful. The idea that it destroyed the entire show though, which some are trying to assert, I don't think that's the case. The anti-AEW people are jumping on this hard like it justifies every negative thing they've ever said about the company, the pro-AEW people are acting like the ending didn't matter at all. At the end of the day it was a great PPV with a terrible botched ending. Credit should be given for the great show and criticism should be given for the botch. Those two things can happen simultaneously.

Nark Order 03-09-2021 05:56 PM

Braun Strowman winning the tag titles with a 10 year old is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen in wrestling and it will most likely never be topped. That didn't ruin that Wrestlemania though, it was just a stupid part of the show.

xrodmuc316 03-09-2021 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5433879)
Your post literally referenced WWE.

You mean the tweet I posted about how AEW is trying to erase the botch from twitter?

You do know that just because the guy mentioned WWE in his tweet does not mean I referenced WWE.

In fact all I said was AEW isn't making things better by trying to get it taken off Twitter so more people don't see it.

But if that is the game you want to play, please explain how it is you think the fact that WWE doesn't promote a guy who murdered his family somehow means AEW trying to hide their botch is what, good?

slik 03-09-2021 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narkseid (Post 5433911)
Braun Strowman winning the tag titles with a 10 year old is probably the stupidest thing I've ever seen in wrestling and it will most likely never be topped. That didn't ruin that Wrestlemania though, it was just a stupid part of the show.

While the Braun tag team thing was dumb, I will say it was rather fun live to see.

Evil Vito 03-09-2021 07:11 PM

Lol a 10 year old winning a title happened only to knock Rene Dupree out of the record books as youngest champ

screech 03-09-2021 07:12 PM

lol for real? That's fun

Jordan 03-09-2021 08:12 PM

If we are comparing Braun and that dumb kid with the Revolution dud, the dud was a far worse experience.

Mr. Nerfect 03-10-2021 01:51 AM

Hahaha, I heard people defending AEW removing people’s content being defended as “It’s not like AEW is personally doing it. Don’t blame AEW.” Then Girl on Cinema shared a notification saying that AEW had manually reviewed her content and had it removed.

Fuck these cunts.

Volare 03-11-2021 01:13 PM

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xrodmuc316 03-11-2021 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volare (Post 5434881)
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Includes going to an all you can eat buffet with The Painmaker!

Mr. Nerfect 03-11-2021 06:43 PM

Would have loved to have met Chris Jericho once upon a time. Now you’d have to pay me. Fuck that bloated piece of shit.

Nark Order 03-11-2021 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5434977)
Would have loved to have met Chris Jericho once upon a time. Now you’d have to pay me. Fuck that bloated piece of shit.

You're such a weird guy. It's baffling.

Emperor Smeat 03-11-2021 07:54 PM

Found this interesting since it usually doesn't work this way for trademarks involving real names.

WWE got their trademark for "Dean Ambrose" initially rejected due to them not getting consent from Jon Moxley despite that not being his real name nor a ring name he used in the indies and the character being owned by WWE. Its all due to a snafu WWE made when they filed the trademark that ended up giving Moxley legal priority over the name and WWE being very lazy when it came to correcting the mistake.

The way the USPTO responded, seems even if WWE fixed it, Moxley might still end up with some ownership of the name.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HeelByNature.com
Last October, WWE filed a new application for the name Dean Ambrose under the entertainment services classification, namely, wrestling exhibitions and performances by a professional wrestler. The filing is likely to maintain ownership of the IP associated with the character.

On 3/10, the USPTO issued a review of the filing according to trademark documents obtained by HeelByNature.com.

The first issue is identifying whether Dean Ambrose is the name of a “living individual”, including the first name, pseudonym, stage name, or nickname. WWE failed to identify this in their initial filing. The trademark office requires the written consent, which in this case would be Jonathan Good (Jon Moxley).

Despite Dean Ambrose being a character, the USPTO requires the person who used the name to provide consent, unless they are no longer living. If WWE does not provide this information, the trademark filing could be refused.

https://heelbynature.com/wrestling-n...itten-consent/

Vastardikai 03-11-2021 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5434137)
Hahaha, I heard people defending AEW removing people’s content being defended as “It’s not like AEW is personally doing it. Don’t blame AEW.” Then Girl on Cinema shared a notification saying that AEW had manually reviewed her content and had it removed.

Fuck these cunts.

Oh, and it gets so much worse from there. Khan responded, and it opened the door for the Horde. Possibly even pictures getting leaked onto 4Chan

xrodmuc316 03-11-2021 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5435021)
Found this interesting since it usually doesn't work this way for trademarks involving real names.

WWE got their trademark for "Dean Ambrose" initially rejected due to them not getting consent from Jon Moxley despite that not being his real name nor a ring name he used in the indies and the character being owned by WWE. Its all due to a snafu WWE made when they filed the trademark that ended up giving Moxley legal priority over the name and WWE being very lazy when it came to correcting the mistake.

The way the USPTO responded, seems even if WWE fixed it, Moxley might still end up with some ownership of the name.



https://heelbynature.com/wrestling-n...itten-consent/

It would be awesome if Moxley does get to keep it, then they can make some jobber in AEW Dean Ambrose, Vince would be pissed lol

slik 03-12-2021 09:56 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Meltzer in this week's WON, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRevolution?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRevolution</a> grossed around $7 million dollars in PPV buys, making it the highest-grossing non-WWE show in the US since 1999.<br><br>B/R Live numbers up 50%. 20-40% increase in international streaming numbers. Record number of buys, too.</p>&mdash; Andy H. Murray (@andyhmurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/andyhmurray/status/1370373260492308484?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Volare 03-12-2021 10:06 AM

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

Lock Jaw 03-12-2021 10:13 AM

Just watched the Christian Cage segment from this week....

Is that Eddie Kingston guy supposed to be "good"/"a big name"? He literally looked like one of those dudes from one of those backyard rassling videos.

Anyways... Christian should definitely win the world title off of Omega.

drave 03-12-2021 10:17 AM

Guess he is more of an "Enzo" in that he can talk shit. I dunno, I'm not impressed.




Christian still needs to get the hell off my TV. I'd rather watch Baron Corbin

erickman 03-12-2021 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5435150)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Meltzer in this week's WON, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRevolution?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRevolution</a> grossed around $7 million dollars in PPV buys, making it the highest-grossing non-WWE show in the US since 1999.<br><br>B/R Live numbers up 50%. 20-40% increase in international streaming numbers. Record number of buys, too.</p>&mdash; Andy H. Murray (@andyhmurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/andyhmurray/status/1370373260492308484?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

good to see you can still make money from a ppv, after wwe killed the ppv with the network.

Lock Jaw 03-12-2021 10:39 AM

I'd rather you just leave TPWW again and this time not return

Lock Jaw 03-12-2021 10:41 AM

Sorry, that was harsh..... but you don't besmirch Christian :foc:

Jordan 03-12-2021 10:41 AM

Kingston definitely has a look that WWE would've never gone for but in every way he has the type of talent they or anyone could use. I'd recommend you give him a chance or watch more of his AEW work. They've pushed him appropriately and he's been awesome. Absolutely one of the best characters in AEW.

Jordan 03-12-2021 10:44 AM

One but picky critisim I have for Christian is that I don't like the "stoic" angle he's played in his AEW appearances this far. Let's be honest he is not intimidating at all from head to toe, so we have him walk out all Eastwood like and not talk? His money is on the mic and in the ring. The angle was good on Dynamite but still I'd preferred to actually hear from him afterwards.

Lock Jaw 03-12-2021 10:44 AM

Also "lol" at Omega making fun of him being all "Don, quick 69 me" but then they actually 69ed.

It's like "bro, you are so gay!!" Then proceeding to suck a dick and just laughing "haha look! This is how gay you are!! Mmmfmfmfmfm"

Jordan 03-12-2021 10:46 AM

"69 me Don" was the funniest thing AEW ever produced :rofl:

slik 03-12-2021 10:47 AM

I think Kenny Omega is bi so he's kind of half-gay

slik 03-12-2021 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5435171)

Is that Eddie Kingston guy supposed to be "good"/"a big name"? He literally looked like one of those dudes from one of those backyard rassling videos.

He totally has that backyard look :lol:

Kingston's great on the mic, the guy can sell pretty much anything and get it over

Jordan 03-12-2021 10:49 AM

I didn't think of that as a "gay moment" just reminded me of something immature like DX in '97 or me and my friends around the same time.

slik 03-12-2021 11:02 AM

would be funny if Paul Wight was dressed as one of Kenny's cleaners for his entrance

Volare 03-12-2021 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5435190)
"69 me Don" was the funniest thing AEW ever produced :rofl:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/hQFfg...&rid=200w.webp

drave 03-12-2021 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5435186)
Sorry, that was harsh..... but you don't besmirch Christian :foc:




Christian is where he should have always been, in the shadows. I'd like to see Mark Stunt v Christian in a battle of the who gives a fuck


https://i.imgur.com/D6lDD5J.gif

Jordan 03-12-2021 11:57 AM

Just want to say I can't remember when I've been this pumped for the next episode of Dynamite. The St. Patricks Day SLAM is gonna be awesome I just know it. But it's not even just the card they have lined up. It's the shake up they've so clearly done after Revolution. Sure some stories are going to continue but they will obviously evolve and bring in different characters (Mox/Kingston/Kenny/Good Bro's/Christian). It already feels so fresh compared to the rut I felt AEW was in for the past two months.

I have a feeling that Sting/Archer/Darby will end up being allies against Team Taz who I could see scooping up Scorpio. Penta/Cody is going to be sick and I can't wait to see where Penta goes after. Also, the Inner Circle vs MJF Alliance is a great evolution and I'm hoping it ends up in Stadium Stampede.

I think one thing that is feeling dry to me though is the Young Bucks. I feel that as fun as their matches can be that "I've seen it all". When they are on, they are awesome but ultimately right now I think they are just hitting their spots and I don't feel a very strong connection to their characters. They come off pretty fake to me. But still yeah they do cool spots. I think I'll be more interested when something fresh happens, a break up or a heel run. Just something different.

drave 03-12-2021 11:58 AM

Isn't that what the Bucks always have been though? I think the "advantage" they had in years past was less eyeballs familiar with the same shit on a different night.


Never understood their appeal, really.

Jordan 03-12-2021 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 5435220)
Isn't that what the Bucks always have been though? I think the "advantage" they had in years past was less eyeballs familiar with the same shit on a different night.


Never understood their appeal, really.

I guess so. I've never had the opportunity to watch them week in and out for this long of a time. I was most exposed to them in NJPW which I watched occasionally. I was a fan from ROH though. I saw their ROH debut at The Hammerstein and I was like "wow they shouldn't be opening the show".

Volare 03-12-2021 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5435218)
Just want to say I can't remember when I've been this pumped for the next episode of Dynamite. The St. Patricks Day SLAM is gonna be awesome I just know it. But it's not even just the card they have lined up. It's the shake up they've so clearly done after Revolution. Sure some stories are going to continue but they will obviously evolve and bring in different characters (Mox/Kingston/Kenny/Good Bro's/Christian). It already feels so fresh compared to the rut I felt AEW was in for the past two months.

I have a feeling that Sting/Archer/Darby will end up being allies against Team Taz who I could see scooping up Scorpio. Penta/Cody is going to be sick and I can't wait to see where Penta goes after. Also, the Inner Circle vs MJF Alliance is a great evolution and I'm hoping it ends up in Stadium Stampede.

I think one thing that is feeling dry to me though is the Young Bucks. I feel that as fun as their matches can be that "I've seen it all". When they are on, they are awesome but ultimately right now I think they are just hitting their spots and I don't feel a very strong connection to their characters. They come off pretty fake to me. But still yeah they do cool spots. I think I'll be more interested when something fresh happens, a break up or a heel run. Just something different.

Kinda hoping FTR get the belts back so they can use em with the new faction vs faction war against Santana/Ortiz.

Jordan 03-12-2021 12:11 PM

Yeah that would be good. Santana/Ortiz are over due for a solid title run.

Jordan 03-12-2021 12:18 PM

Oh no apparently AEW taped ST PATRICKS DAY SLAM already and there are spoilers available. MUST...NOT...READ!

slik 03-12-2021 12:26 PM

Apparently Paul Wight strips Jim Ross nude in a BBQ Death Match

slik 03-12-2021 12:26 PM

I should have put that in a spoiler tag...

Volare 03-12-2021 12:26 PM

Easy not to, I don't follow a bunch of sites that post them now.

Volare 03-12-2021 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5435236)
Apparently Paul Wight strips Jim Ross nude in a BBQ Death Match

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5435237)
I should have put that in a spoiler tag...

You schumma bitch!! Schnuva Bitch!!

Volare 03-12-2021 01:41 PM

And this I need to see!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What?!? Is that Captain Insano’s music? <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulWight?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PaulWight</a> explains why we might see Insano in the ring to <a href="https://twitter.com/ReneePaquette?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ReneePaquette</a> on the latest episode of Oral Sessions <a href="https://t.co/BQQPSzt9jU">pic.twitter.com/BQQPSzt9jU</a></p>&mdash; The Volume (@TheVolumeSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheVolumeSports/status/1370027319092416512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Evil Vito 03-12-2021 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5435234)
Oh no apparently AEW taped ST PATRICKS DAY SLAM already and there are spoilers available. MUST...NOT...READ!

I'm not surprised it was taped, they've been on a pretty consistent taping schedule since May. Live Dynamite on a Wednesday, tape the next Dynamite on Thursday, and then everyone gets 12 days off before they have to be at the next live Dynamite.

Given the times I prefer they make the talent do that then have to go to back and forth between home and Jacksonville every week. That said, it's surprising that Dynamite spoilers aren't readily available most of the time.

Jordan 03-12-2021 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volare (Post 5435252)
And this I need to see!!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What?!? Is that Captain Insano’s music? <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulWight?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PaulWight</a> explains why we might see Insano in the ring to <a href="https://twitter.com/ReneePaquette?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ReneePaquette</a> on the latest episode of Oral Sessions <a href="https://t.co/BQQPSzt9jU">pic.twitter.com/BQQPSzt9jU</a></p>&mdash; The Volume (@TheVolumeSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheVolumeSports/status/1370027319092416512?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'M MARKING

Volare 03-12-2021 04:04 PM

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xrodmuc316 03-12-2021 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5435150)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Meltzer in this week's WON, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRevolution?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRevolution</a> grossed around $7 million dollars in PPV buys, making it the highest-grossing non-WWE show in the US since 1999.<br><br>B/R Live numbers up 50%. 20-40% increase in international streaming numbers. Record number of buys, too.</p>&mdash; Andy H. Murray (@andyhmurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/andyhmurray/status/1370373260492308484?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LOL What?

So they did the most PPV buys for a wrestling show not produced by WWE since 1999. So basically they beat 2 companies that were within 2 years of being bankrupt and Impact...WHAT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT!!!!!!

drave 03-12-2021 05:10 PM

An impressive feat, none the less, for such a young company.

Emperor Smeat 03-12-2021 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5435299)
An impressive feat, none the less, for such a young company.

Yeah and it also shows how badly wrestling has fallen these past 20 years under WWE's dominance and Impact's inability to be a true rival to them.

Only other company besides Impact who could have produced that type of PPV number pre-AEW is Ring of Honor and they've never gotten close to doing so.

WarnerMedia is probably very happy since the biggest goal they had for AEW was for them to help grow their B/R Live subs and they've been doing that right from the start.

slik 03-12-2021 05:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheChairman?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#TheChairman</a> .... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BMF?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BMF</a> <br><br> <a href="https://t.co/OaLsZYMIMN">pic.twitter.com/OaLsZYMIMN</a></p>&mdash; Shawn Spears (@Perfec10n) <a href="https://twitter.com/Perfec10n/status/1370504602517377026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

xrodmuc316 03-12-2021 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5435299)
An impressive feat, none the less, for such a young company.

Then they should just say that. Acting like it is some massive thing that they sold more PPVs than the company they are working with and tongue in cheek burying doesn't mean jack.

Plus who cares what they grossed, that means literally nothing. What did they net? If they have the best deal with PPV ever, maybe the PPV provider only got 50% of that.

$3.5 Million minus all expenses and they probably took a net loss, although that is not much of a brag on Twitter thing, is it?

Supreme Olajuwon 03-12-2021 07:34 PM

Literally only you and the saddest poster on TPWW care

xrodmuc316 03-12-2021 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5435319)
Literally only you and the saddest poster on TPWW care

LOL I'm sorry but I think it's funny when they frame something that means nothing like it is so great triumph.

Grossing $7,000,000.00 means absolutely nothing, yet they are bragging about it. To me, that is funny, and again to me, it is funny that anybody is buying that it is an accomplishment.

You do realize there is a reason why they aren't bragging about what the Net was, right?

And maybe I am the only one who cares about the truth instead of believing all the carny nonsense they try to spin. Getting upset that I'm not "All In" on every propaganda story seems pretty sad to me.

Emperor Smeat 03-12-2021 10:14 PM

That's not that far off from what WWE gets on average for their monthly PPVs on the Network.

$10 at around 1 million paid subscribers on average comes out to $10 million for gross revenue in the US and around $15 million when including global.

Even when factoring in the different costs eating into it for WWE and AEW, the gap probably isn't that huge in the end since WWE's costs are much higher than AEW in general.

xrodmuc316 03-12-2021 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5435368)
That's not that far off from what WWE gets on average for their monthly PPVs on the Network.

$10 at around 1 million paid subscribers on average comes out to $10 million for gross revenue in the US and around $15 million when including global.

Even when factoring in the different costs eating into it for WWE and AEW, the gap probably isn't that huge in the end since WWE's costs are much higher than AEW in general.

WWE reports profits as a publicly traded company.

AEW has Dave Meltzer spin grossing $7 million.

It's not the same thing.

Volare 03-12-2021 10:38 PM

You're right, from now to be counted as successful you must make one billion in your first year or you are a failure.

By the way, there are only 135 companies in the U.S. that are worth that much. So everyone but those 135 suck ass (including you and me I guess.)

xrodmuc316 03-12-2021 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Volare (Post 5435374)
You're right, from now to be counted as successful you must make one billion in your first year or you are a failure.

By the way, there are only 135 companies in the U.S. that are worth that much. So everyone but those 135 suck ass (including you and me I guess.)

No, the people who take an irrelevant number and portray it for something that it is not are the only ones that suck ass.

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5435348)
You do realize there is a reason why they aren't bragging about what the Net was, right?

That is the only logical question.

drave 03-13-2021 07:53 AM

lol, they can hit all the marks they want, you'll keep moving those goal posts to bitch about something else.

#1-norm-fan 03-13-2021 09:04 AM

Motherfucker seriously flipped out because AEW’s PPV numbers were reported in a way that was too positive for his liking. Amazing. :lol:

Volare 03-13-2021 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5435430)
Motherfucker seriously flipped out.


Jordan 03-13-2021 10:17 AM

I think the PPV numbers are a big accomplishment. Xrod has a point to some extent, but I think failing to realize how many companies have tried to meet a goal as large as what AEW has just hit. Many companies have tried to run PPV and fallen far short of this or any AEW number. NJPW, ROH, TNA/Impact, AAA, MLW and of course as mentioned WCW. I understand Rod's specific annoyance with the brag but this is what promotion is. WWE straight up lie's ever year they hold Mania by adding 10-20,000 or more to attendance. AEW has accomplished more in it's two years than any company outside of WWE in over 2 decades. From the initial ticket demand, PPV numbers that continue to grow, TV ratings which stand among the top of the list every Wednesday and of course the TV rights deal which outside of WWE is the biggest ever.

The perspective to take is not "oh they still haven't beaten WWE", I don't think that's what anyone is saying. People are praising the success that when compared to any other promotion in the last 20 years is far and above at the top. Some of the AEW die hard's here are obviously incredibly supportive and proud of the product and it's success. I think it's worth mentioning that AEW, Tony and the EVP's early on all said that their goal wasn't to "beat WWE" but to become a viable alternative and successful in it's own world. Which they have done and hopefully continue to do.

xrodmuc316 03-13-2021 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5435430)
Motherfucker seriously flipped out because AEW’s PPV numbers were reported in a way that was too positive for his liking. Amazing. :lol:

Not flipped out, not angry, just amused.

xrodmuc316 03-13-2021 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5435443)
I think the PPV numbers are a big accomplishment. Xrod has a point to some extent, but I think failing to realize how many companies have tried to meet a goal as large as what AEW has just hit. Many companies have tried to run PPV and fallen far short of this or any AEW number. NJPW, ROH, TNA/Impact, AAA, MLW and of course as mentioned WCW. I understand Rod's specific annoyance with the brag but this is what promotion is. WWE straight up lie's ever year they hold Mania by adding 10-20,000 or more to attendance. AEW has accomplished more in it's two years than any company outside of WWE in over 2 decades. From the initial ticket demand, PPV numbers that continue to grow, TV ratings which stand among the top of the list every Wednesday and of course the TV rights deal which outside of WWE is the biggest ever.

The perspective to take is not "oh they still haven't beaten WWE", I don't think that's what anyone is saying. People are praising the success that when compared to any other promotion in the last 20 years is far and above at the top. Some of the AEW die hard's here are obviously incredibly supportive and proud of the product and it's success. I think it's worth mentioning that AEW, Tony and the EVP's early on all said that their goal wasn't to "beat WWE" but to become a viable alternative and successful in it's own world. Which they have done and hopefully continue to do.

You are 100% right, and for the record, I call bullshit on WWE's inflated attendance numbers too.

#1-norm-fan 03-13-2021 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5435447)
Not flipped out, not angry, just amused.

Well, however you wanna describe your reaction... holy fuck. It was really far less than you’re making it out to be.

#1-norm-fan 03-13-2021 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5435150)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per Meltzer in this week's WON, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWRevolution?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWRevolution</a> grossed around $7 million dollars in PPV buys, making it the highest-grossing non-WWE show in the US since 1999.<br><br>B/R Live numbers up 50%. 20-40% increase in international streaming numbers. Record number of buys, too.</p>&mdash; Andy H. Murray (@andyhmurray) <a href="https://twitter.com/andyhmurray/status/1370373260492308484?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Based on your reaction to THIS tweet, it’s like someone hailed AEW Revolution as the beginning of the end for WWE or any company that may dare challenge them on their climb to entertainment supremacy.

It’s literally just stating the numbers and giving historical relevance and you saw that and decided it was bragging so much that you needed to stop the injustice.

Jordan 03-13-2021 11:09 AM

I want to start a new discussion
 
Who on the AEW Roster that appears on Dynamite are you ready for Tony to cut ties with when their contract is up? Who are you tired of seeing?

This for me is kind of tough because I often feel this way for certain talents. And if AEW is going to be bringing in disgruntled former WWE talents they will have to make some room.

1. Kip Sabian (sorry Slik). This guy really don't do it for me, and I can't really see a way that he becomes a drawing card in any way as a heel or babyface.

2. Miro, I'm not ready to say "don't resign him" but there is just something about his in ring work that bores the shit out of me even when he's at his best. Letting him run his own gimmick with his video game fandom and his designer dork wear also does absolutely nothing for me. I love his look, he looks awesome but his work on the mic and in the ring never matches that potential for me. He hasn't had a great chance at a good match yet so I am willing to give him a go with one of the top stars. But I don't expect my opinion to change. I really think he was botched from the start. Kind of an impulse signing when they didn't have a great story for him to make much of an impact.

3. Jake Hagger. He's really done nothing of consequence minus his matches with Moxley and Wardlow. Every other match has been boring and he is death on the mic. I don't see the point, he's not adding value anywhere in my opinion. I'd let his contract be one and done at the end of it.

4. Matt Sydal. I just don't really see the point in this guy, he has no character at all and quickly became just another guy. Why don't they attempt to do something unique with him? Otherwise what is the point?

5. Jim Ross. There is no longer credibility added to the broadcast by JR. He just doesn't fit in and has too many bouts of seeping negativity. If they need to keep him around then perhaps an advisory role or something backstage but for the love of God he's gotta go. They have a lot of people who could replace him, or just have a two man booth with Excalibur and Tony. JR doesn't come off like a fan of AEW to me he's coming off like he's trying to like the show more often than not. When I read that Joey Styles recently trademarked his name, it gave me some hope. How cool would it be to see Styles, Excalibur and Schiavone on Dynamite regularly?


There are other talents I feel that are stalled. Hobbs for instance has sucked since joining Team Tazz, he should've stayed a babyface for sure. QT and Dustin should be dealt a better hand than they've gotten recently. The style they bring is too valuable to be left behind with all the high flyers in AEW. The entire Dark Order other than John Silver seems quite aimless right now, I don't know that all of them will need to be there long term. Luchasarus will need to go heel eventually, and learn a less or two from Paul Wight. He could be something but his attempt at being a giant cruiserweight isn't going to work long term no matter how the crowd will pop for his spots. Crowd pops ain't sustaining interest.

A lot of my other problem performers have been relegated to Dark which I never watch anymore so that's good news for me.

Lock Jaw 03-13-2021 11:22 AM

Forgot to mention "lol" at JR's reaction to Christian's music hitting being ".... the hell is that?"

I'd even have taken Michael Cole yelling "OH MY! Could it be?!" over that reaction.

Volare 03-13-2021 11:55 AM

That was really really bland you are right.

drave 03-13-2021 12:50 PM

But 100% accurate. Who the fuck would recognize Christian's 2 themes.




Blue Luchador Masked wrestler: El Cage




or gtfo.

xrodmuc316 03-13-2021 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5435450)
Based on your reaction to THIS tweet, it’s like someone hailed AEW Revolution as the beginning of the end for WWE or any company that may dare challenge them on their climb to entertainment supremacy.

It’s literally just stating the numbers and giving historical relevance and you saw that and decided it was bragging so much that you needed to stop the injustice.

And I made an initial joke about it, why are they bragging about beating Impact PPV. It wasn't a big deal at all to me. But in typical TPWW fashion, there had to a rally against anything not 100% blind support towards AEW. So I simply mentioned there is a reason they aren't reporting the Net Profit.

Clearly it was originally me thinking it's a funny thing to brag about. I can't help it that people are so sensitive that they can't tell when I start out a post with "LOL" that it is funny, not a tirade.

Volare 03-13-2021 03:20 PM

https://scontent.ffcm1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...b4&oe=60737767

Volare 03-13-2021 10:26 PM

Posting it here cause I'm sure it'll be tied into something...

SPOILER: show
FinJuice defeated Impact World Tag Team Champions The Good Brothers to become the NEW CHAMPIONS!

Emperor Smeat 03-13-2021 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Volare (Post 5435547)
Posting it here cause I'm sure it'll be tied into something...

SPOILER: show
FinJuice defeated Impact World Tag Team Champions The Good Brothers to become the NEW CHAMPIONS!

SPOILER: show
FinJuice helping out Christian or Eddie Kingston in their feud against Omega & Pals in AEW would be very interesting if it happens.

Since both guys also worked for TNA/Impact in the past, Impact gets something big to hype up for a return appearance at a future show.

Emperor Smeat 03-14-2021 04:14 PM

According to Wrestlenomics, current estimates for Revolution pay-per-view buys are around 125,000.

Would break AEW's all-time record for PPV buys by 20k that was previously held by last year's Double or Nothing event.

Also based on updated estimates, AEW is now currently expected to have made $5 million in gross revenues from the event and around $1.4 million in net profits after revenue splits and costs are factored in.

Even with the new lower revenues estimates, Revolution would still be the highest grossing revenues non-WWE event since 1999.

xrodmuc316 03-14-2021 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5435620)
According to Wrestlenomics, current estimates for Revolution pay-per-view buys are around 125,000.

Would break AEW's all-time record for PPV buys by 20k that was previously held by last year's Double or Nothing event.

Also based on updated estimates, AEW is now currently expected to have made $5 million in gross revenues from the event and around $1.4 million in net profits after revenue splits and costs are factored in.

Even with the new lower revenues estimates, Revolution would still be the highest grossing revenues non-WWE event since 1999.

A net profit of $1.4 million is a much better number to hype. It's not a large number in the grand scheme of things, but making a 7 figure profit for one night is a success.

Edit:How does Meltzer seriously keep making money in this industry, he is never right!

erickman 03-15-2021 07:24 PM

anyone watching dark tonight

Volare 03-15-2021 07:53 PM

On and off, working on some stuff for my game as well.

Volare 03-15-2021 07:53 PM

Paul Wight is really damn solid behind the desk.

erickman 03-15-2021 07:54 PM

paul is not to bad on color

erickman 03-15-2021 08:06 PM

damn this is on the same time as raw

Mr. Nerfect 03-16-2021 05:02 AM

Hahaha, Tony Khan has appeared as a GM even though he said that he wouldn’t do that shit. Tony Shiavone tried to kayfabe it on Twitter. This is amazing.

xrodmuc316 03-16-2021 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5435985)
Hahaha, Tony Khan has appeared as a GM even though he said that he wouldn’t do that shit. Tony Shiavone tried to kayfabe it on Twitter. This is amazing.

He is about 6 months away from becoming WCW Vince Russo.

Emperor Smeat 03-16-2021 09:01 PM

Cody vs. Penta is kicking off tomorrow's show based on AEW's paid ad segment on Impact tonight.

Tom Guycott 03-16-2021 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5436053)
He is about 6 months away from becoming WCW Vince Russo.

Then he skipped the step where he is shot from the back while he sits in a big chair and only his hands are visible onscreen like he's Dr. Claw.

Bro.

rez 03-17-2021 12:28 AM

Someone recap me on Nerfect retweets from not watching television. thanks

rez 03-17-2021 12:28 AM

moron

rez 03-17-2021 12:29 AM

pathetic noid spends more time looking at tweets than watching youtube recaps

rez 03-17-2021 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5435985)
Hahaha, Tony Khan has appeared as a GM even though he said that he wouldn’t do that shit. Tony Shiavone tried to kayfabe it on Twitter. This is amazing.

If you bothered to follow the live threads we addressed that but go ahead and be edgy aboot it. :rofl:

drave 03-17-2021 07:24 AM

Don't misunderstand. He's excited because they are doing things like "kayfabe" and other things. Let him be amazed. :rofl:

screech 03-17-2021 08:14 AM

Kinda sad that "person in rasslin lied" amazes anyone at this point, but to each his own!

Evil Vito 03-17-2021 08:15 AM

Wish TPWW hid quoted posts from people you have on ignore. It's the only exposure I have to their idiocy at this point.

Impeccable 03-17-2021 08:29 AM

Just got around to watching Dark Elevation.

I really enjoyed Paul Wight on comms.

Like many, I'm feeling JR is not quite all there. Tony K must surely be looking at succession planning for JR.

If JR is there for recognition factor, and Tony K wants the familiar voice / face on comms greeting fans to Dynamite, then potentially he has a comms team here with Tony Schiavone and Paul Wight. Tony on pbp and Wight on colour would give a familiar voice to existing AeW fans and older WCW fans, as well as a familiar face in Wight with casual WWE fans recognising him.


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