oh shit we were supposed to pick sides?!

Nah, but he did.

I think he’s the only cunt who hasn’t gotten a paycheck for it from them.

I picked the side of anti-dumbfuckness.

Noid picked cumdorx’ side because he’s desperate for an ally and doesn’t want to alienate him. Now he’s forced to pretend cumdorx makes valid points at the expense of what little credibility he has left.

Though in his defense, even he has had to subtlety distance himself from some of cumdorx’ dumb shit in the past couple weeks since he’s become EXTRA desperate with this latest fake ignore. Even Derpfect has his limits.

There was a time long ago where I would still view posts from blocked people from time to time. Now I enjoy seeing how easily this dude is triggered to replying to everything I say...

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Everyone else can tell the truth, only Fan is in denial. He has been reduced to the gimmick of rage posting over and over again in some misconception that he is not obsessed with defending Phil and AEW. If ever there was a time for these, it is now...

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

What a weird thing to mention out of the blue. It’s almost like you’re desperately trying to defend your past actions that HAPPENED to be quoted in a post that you DEFINITELY could not see. As evidence by you posting a PICTURE to PROVE that you’re DEFINITELY ignoring me this time!

Well…

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TAKE THAT!

Tpww white...gross

TPWW white is like 473 on the list of brain dead decisions he’s made.

And it’s a REALLY dumb decision.

I’m still on the green. I can’t believe I used default for so many years. Didn’t explore enough.

It is easier on the eyes!

If you put them both on ignore its actually pretty jarring how much they post. I havent quite got the entire page ignored out with them replying to each other yet but one of the AEW threads went close the other day.

lol Vito pointed this out the other day. I just scroll right by at this point but yeah it's wild when you really look at it.

This site should be viewed in its original concept anything else is a bastardization.

tpww green 4 life u sick f*cks

TPWW green all goddamn day

Blue you cunts

I’m a blue man myself.

yup

It’s always funny to me when people try to make fun of people for posting on a message board they are also members of.

Green machine all day!

Red and yellow! Red for MOX (blood) and yellow for PUNK (pussy)

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Don't think he was making fun of you. He's pointing out that you have some of the highest post counts in AEW threads for something you abhor so much.


I'd imagine the same 3-5 lines being repeated ad-infinitum caused he and others to hide the posts from you and cumdorx.


Also, your statement is the same thing, albeit passive-aggressive. You're calling him out for his right to exercise content he doesn't want to see.




Wrestling will be better one day. :wavesad:

No, it was a dig, but digs like that always seem like a self-own to me. And no, I’m not calling him out for his right to exercise content. He’s welcome to exercise content anytime he wants. That’s the exact point.

Lol, my posts are dripping with insight. They just don’t coddle them weak-hearted.

Some of them definitely are worded with insight. 90% of the time though, it's just the same drivel as it was the previous day. 100p passive aggressive.


Your Survivor Series booking, for example, not terrible at all. Even AEW sucks, with valid criticisms, are (IMO) well thought out.

Thank you, my criticisms are valid. :y:

Some of them.

My favorite totally valid Noid criticisms are when he criticizes made up shit that can easily be proven did not happen. If you just ignore the fact that the premise is an obvious blatant lie, the criticism is often valid.

#GoodFaithConversation

Almost all of them.

I have 3 criticisms that are all valid

1. CM Phil is the biggest fake tough guy bitch with ZERO credibility
2. 1 million is never going to be more than 2 million
3. Tiny Khan is an insufferable manchild with a creepy hugs fetish

Listening to Cornette last week made me think: how do you think CM Punk would go in a fight situation with someone like Kenny Omega or a Young Buck? Punk was a joke in MMA, but would most of the AEW roster do much better?

And before some mark goes off about Omega having MMA training…so did Punk.

Omega is an athlete. Omega worked through multiple injuries for months. Phil stubbed his toe and cried. They are not the same.

And I could not care any less about Kenny Omega, but he would destroy Phil.

Like his claim that mjf turned on Cody and then they never touched?

I dunno, man. Omega was probably milking his injuries for all they were worth too. I’d love to see the sissy boy slapfight that would ensue.

Nah I’d say his injuries are severe because that’s what happens when you wrestle every match to impress uncle Dave. He supports unsafe wrestling by bolstering unsustainable styles (see how he used to report on Benoit)

Maybe. I remember hearing an interview Omega did in Japan where he was shrugging off the risks of that style. Someone asked him about Shibata and he was like “Shit happens.” Not verbatim, but it was pretty depressing.

1.99 million for SD on Friday
2.1 million for RAW this week


RAW returns to being the A-show for WWE

With a taped episode airing Friday, I would expect a 1.5 for this week. Tony will claim it as a win in the Friday Night Wars somehow, because #LFG!!!

2.1 million is nowhere near as impressive as 975k for Dynamite on Wednesdays. Get the fuck out with your spin.

I always think of LFG as Looking For Group because I play too many games.

Two titans battling it out : Raw and Smackdown. Brings back memories of the massive ratings Raw vs Nitro did.

Triple H is going to create the internal competition Vince always wanted.

1.02 million for Dynamite's go home for ALL OUT

Guys, it didn’t just get 1 million viewers…it got 1.02 million viewers!

I don't think its fair to mock them for being sub 1 mil and then mock them for not being over 1 mil enough. Mock them when in 2 weeks theyre sub 1 mil again.

Nah, there’s plenty of reasons to mock them. 1 million is just an arbitrary line. It’s a psychologically satisfying line, since people like their even chunks, but the difference between an estimated 1 million and an estimated 970k is about 30k.

I like to mock them for being unpopular for wrestling even in the modern era. This is in relation to what WWE does and what is still possible. And I like to laugh at the idea that about 1.02 million people saw THAT show.

But yes, I will mock them in two weeks too. :y:

“lol No million”/“Who cares about a million?” is just another one of those issues that shift based on whether it works with the narrative. Same with year-over-year, the sheets being bullshit, etc.

(Sudden inconvenient post burial incoming)

According to the quarter-hours (as much stock as you want to put into them), Omega and The Bucks lost viewers bad. Knocked them down to below 900k. It’s at least significant in the speculates Punk/Omega civil war. Point to Punk. Unless you want to point to Punk’s stuff not gluing people to an entire show. But it’s in no way a win for Omega or The Bucks.

Danielson also seems to lose viewers. Funny that taking one of the most beloved wrestlers of the past decade and making him an afterthought has done that.

:lol:

Based punk drawing the house

And Mox outdrew them both.

Mox is the house drawer.

And that is not goofy shit!

Wasn’t Omega supposed to come back and start telling stories?

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I don’t get this obsession wrestling fans have about the 18-49 demo on cable in 2022. I really don’t. Can anyone explain why this is still what advertisers look at when there are so many other pressing metrics and mediums?

Also, they only place that high on a weak night of television if you take out programming not in its first run. They don’t get better numbers than the Big Bang Theory, which is also more culturally relevant. You’d surely generate more revenue with that than AEW. So why spend money on the original programming when you can just do a better rated block of rerun television that better advertises your streaming service?

They don't actually, they just pretend whatever thing they can spin to make their favorite wrestling company sound good. When they don't get a million in the ratings, it does not matter one bit, they are still number 1! When they get a million viewers, it is a celebration the likes of which you onky ever see when #1BubblingFan has when he thinks Punk might come to this forum and thank him for his loyal support.

Just like Tiny and Meltz were celebrating AEW grossing $100 million this year. Nevermind gross means nothing whatsoever because that is before expenses. Gross mean even less when there is nothing reported about the Net Profit.

They take one thing, act like it matters because they can't admit failure, and convince a bunch of their idiot fans that already love them, that they are killing it.

It is nothing more than a misrepresentation of everything. They are a private company so they can get away with it, but anybody with any business acumen can see right through it. The problem is most of these people are too stupid to realize it.

You have Jericho out there repeating the same old "my boss has more money than your boss" trope. But that is complete bullshit, always has been, but idiots are too stupid to understand anything beyond Forbes' Net Worth list.

The whole AEW narrative is a house of cards. It looks really solid if you only view it from very specific angles, but it is quite a long con (no pun intended) to make a bunch of socially awkward weirdos feel important by pretending the are successful.

That’s it.

RAW - 2.05 million

SD - 2.07 million


USA Network in the mud

Braun drawing the house!

WWE still trailing behind AEW I see.

Over a million again for Dynamite I see.

Listened to Jerichos podcast with the Wrestlenomics guy the other day, it was an interesting listen that explained a little more how some of this stuff works. ,Whats relevant and whats not, a little about the impact of streaming etc.

Jerichos wrestling related podcasts are normally solid but this was pretty interesting in general terms.

Dude you didn’t need to listen to Jericho and some no-name marks from Wrestlenomics. Noid’s been doing pretty much weekly breakdowns of what advertisers and tv execs look for right here on TPDub.

What were Thurston’s sources? Other than “my best friend works for AEW and I’m on an AEW wrestler’s podcast?” A quick Google search will tell you everything you need to know about modern opinions on the demo.

-Cable is dying.

-Women are important.

-Wrestling is perceived as trashy.

-Advertisers are more aware of ethnicity, sexuality and other demographic factors.

-Economic and cultural factors have affected which demos are most desirable.

-AEW’s average fan is likely to be >34.

What am I wrong about?

Wow only 1.035 million. I thought it would have been much higher considering all the buzz.

If I wanted to get info from an internet dream booker I would follow TK on twitter :shifty:

Seriously though it was interesting just to hear it laid out as someone who really doesnt care to much about ratings or dug too deep into it, explaining how demos work and why they are valued over a total number was interesting for example.

Holy shit, is that all it was?! And it dropped massively throughout the show again. I wonder if that’s because the show sucks or the 49 yr old audience fell into a cheese coma and leant on the remote forcing an irreversible channel change?

A Google search on opinion will yield whatever opinion you tell it to search. Also, being a nerd, Google's index only accounts for roughly 4% of the internet's traffic, a farcry from any majority.

Just saying that Google =/= a reliable source.

Dunning-Kruger personified. It takes some serious stupidity to believe that reading Google search results will give you remotely equivalent (let alone superior) knowledge or expertise as people who are and have actually worked for decades in the field you're discussing.

You don’t need to stay on Google, lol. A search engine can be used to find information. It’s not really relevant that 91% of internet traffic is porn.

So use Google to find the reliable sources. The point is you don’t need to go deep to work this shit out.

Lol, every single legal tidbit you’ve stirred up has been from Google. Because you’re fake. You’re also the moron who called someone a cocksucker because they didn’t immediately condemn NXT. Your opinion on what is reasonable has long been disqualified.

And yep, Chris Jericho = media analyst. Go back to the shadows because AEW sucks and not even you can deny it anymore.

No one actually disagreeing with my points either.

SD - 2.3 million

Holy shit.

Was everything cancelled?

Smackdown literally Quintupling Rampage, just ask Jerry McDevitt! :yes::yes::yes:

But Rampage still won the war, right?

RAW rating. Woof.

Raw only getting 1.7 million against Monday Night Football is a direct shot at Dynamite struggling to even get 1 million against Real Housewives :rofl:

Yeah, looks like Football season will be tough for raw

1.71 is down from the 2 million of HHH's first month

Down 300,000 is rough, they lost the entire Rampage audience :lol::lol::lol:

AEW tends to have bad weeks when WWE has bad weeks. They’re off the PPV bump and any (if any) interest from the controversy. It was a fair guess that their number would already be down, but it is going to be interesting to see what their number is.

1.175 milliion -- most watched Dynamite since September 2021

… Wait, what???

All trash talk aside, that is a bizarrely good number. I think everyone had it dropping back under a million after last week’s chaos bump.

Yeah, it is. I wonder why it had such a big bump? Thought for sure it'd either be the same or a touch lower after the hype died down from last week.

Like if you told me that was the number for next week I wouldn't have been shocked. They'll do a good number then too. It'll be interesting to see if it goes back down after that though.

I wanna jokingly say “MJF, man…”

But also… MJF, man…?

Could be people banding together to support the company during a hard time?

Alright. “All trash talk aside” aside…

How is Noid gonna spin this into shit?

Sounds like after a year of Phil driving people away, the real fans are coming back now that his 0-2 embarrassing ass is gone!

0-1-1*

I don't think he can get the credit here as much as I'd love to give it to him. If he was the driving force then wouldn't you have expected the ratings bump to come last week for his return to Dynamite after winning the chip? ESPECIALLY with the drama to boost last weeks ep too.

1. Weed is NOT a performing enhancing drug
2. He got legitimately tickled in the Octagon

He is more 0-2 than any fighter ever.

Apparently the quarter hour ratings never even dropped below a million. Barely below 1.1 million.

Surprisingly not under 1 million. 1.175 is almost 1.2 million, which is almost 2.3 million.

AEW. What a league.

Straw man the shit out of it and ignore your previous post (and then probably bury all the evidence in a shitpost frenzy). A shocking method. I hope everyone bet against the odds.

No, he's actually 0-1-1. Record books don't lie, fella

I saw the fight, that record book is lying :lol:

thats false. His record officially is 0-1. The 2nd fight was retroactively ruled a no contest.

That doesnt go on the books as a draw its stricken. Dana ruled to over turn the unanimous decision officially on the grounds of unsportsmanlike conduct.

The reasoning was Jackson humiliated punk to such an extreme by choosing not to finish punk on multiple occasions and instead dragging the fight out, with mockery like tickling him, that the fight on paper never occured and barred Mike Jackson from the UFC for life.

Jackson argued that is was a mercy. He claims had he gone in the for the KO punks inability to protect himself would have led to punk taking severe damage possibly CTE. Despite Jacksons kindness Punk was still hospitalizated after the fight.