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Jordan 07-24-2018 11:06 PM

I used to listen to Keller when I was a kid on a subscriber hotline, I think it was Keller, could've been Dave or Alvarez I'm not sure I was really young like 8/9 years old. Wade Keller really comes from a hard marks perspective for me, I don't enjoy his analysis or podcasts at all, his call in episodes are cringe worthy. PWI's website looks like it wants to but fuck my computer so I don't go anywhere near it. Although I know Triple H throws him a bone sometimes, I can get his stuff translated to the TPWW main page. Which truthfully, has always been my first stop on checking the news. Then I go to F4W to see if what I just read is legit, and listen to the podcasts and read The Observer weekly.

Emperor Smeat 07-24-2018 11:23 PM

Yeah PWI's website is atrocious and a text book example of why people use ad and pop up blockers. Think for a while Google threw warnings because of all the malware and adware that was going on.

Even this new computer I have has problems running multiple tabs from their site from all the shit that is being loaded or playing if I don't have blockers on.

Tom Guycott 07-25-2018 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5150534)
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King of Bun Style.

It's a good thing Shinsuke didn't have much to say. Since he doesn't shpeak Engrish. He should also wear that smoking jacket to the ring just because.

slik 07-25-2018 12:10 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the things you find going back through RAW in 2000. <a href="https://t.co/TK1KmXgzAB">pic.twitter.com/TK1KmXgzAB</a></p>&mdash; Attitude Era Signs (@AEraSigns) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEraSigns/status/1021959922764808192?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat 07-25-2018 12:18 AM

Not sure if Ronda is just terrible at smirking or WWE is terrible at taking good photos of Ronda for posters. Even her face for the Money in the Bank poster looked a bit off.

https://i.imgur.com/S5rLgBu.jpg

Tom Guycott 07-25-2018 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5150874)
That's what kills me about thr "plans change" criticism. The WWE changes their minds more than my girlfriend deciding where she wants to go for dinner on a Saturday night.

While this is true, it seems more like he uses it as a crutch at this point. It's almost like Bruce Pritchard's "I don't recall" on an issue he's specifically asked about when he supposedly was standing right there.

Yeah, there are instances like that infamous RAW that was re-written 3 entire times that day just for Vince to do yet another one himself right before they went on... but it doesn't happen to that capacity all the goddamn time, and that's mostly a WWE (Vince) trait. But there is a world of difference between "so-and-so got hurt/fired/arrested so some angle needed to be scrapped/altered out of neccessity" and "this guy didn't win a main event like I thought he would because it made sense to me on paper". It has gotten to where Meltz will use it for anything as a generic, catch-all disclaimer, which puts both of those instances on equal footing - and they're not.

Mr. Nerfect 07-25-2018 12:35 AM

There are plenty of people who might "know" someone who can get them an occasional scoop, but the thing about those people is that they don't know how to cultivate sources and when their contact is weeded out/moves on/loses details, they don't really have anything else.

What Meltzer has is a name and a reputation. He knows people from numerous different eras, and is also a historian at this point. In the world of social media and online content, he's as much part of the industry as so many of the guys working. He's not dependent on one person in WWE creative leaking him details that happen to be correct. He's got eyes and ears well and truly entrenched by this point.

Jack Campbell Peterson IV might get a great scoop from the writing buddy he went to college with, but when that writer gets fired because he scripts Alexa Bliss to say "boot-tooty" too many times in a segment and Vince gets the shits, he's useless.

Mr. Nerfect 07-25-2018 12:40 AM

I honestly don't really listen to much Meltzer, but he doesn't back off nearly as much as people say. A lot of the time things are clearly his opinion or just backstage mumblings, because that's all those details exist as. There's a difference between saying "This is definitely the plan" and "I imagine this is where they are going." Meltz will flat-out come out and say if he's just spit-balling and speculating based on other things he does know.

He was completely right about this women's PPV thing, wasn't he? And about Roman getting this title shot? He had obviously heard those where the plans and they came true. He obviously talks to people who hear what the plans are. That they change isn't so much a crutch as it is something that happens. If things change they can't stay the same, can they?

Tom Guycott 07-25-2018 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5151009)
Not sure if Ronda is just terrible at smirking or WWE is terrible at taking good photos of Ronda for posters. Even her face for the Money in the Bank poster looked a bit off.

https://i.imgur.com/S5rLgBu.jpg

I don't see the problem with this PPV, so long as between now and then they don't start sacrificing the badass for the pretty.

As for this poster, though... yeah, they need better promo pics of Rousey. Doesn't even look like a photo, looks like someone used an airbrush tool in Photoshop on someone who vaugely looked like her in a magazine.

Mr. Nerfect 07-25-2018 08:08 AM

Alexa Bliss is one of the three women being promoted for it. They're going to the pretty.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-25-2018 08:16 AM

In fairness, she's also the heel champion.

Big Vic 07-25-2018 08:29 AM

I agree with Noid, we should have an all black woman PPV.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-25-2018 08:32 AM

lol

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-25-2018 08:32 AM

Called "WWE: Lived Experience"

Evil Vito 07-25-2018 08:33 AM

If that PPV features Ember Moon getting nekkid, I'm on board

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-25-2018 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5151061)
If that PPV features Ember Moon getting nekkid, I'm on board

Also... Ember Moon getting choked out by Asuka while naked.... err I mean... nah that's exactly what I mean.

Evil Vito 07-25-2018 08:41 AM

I like the way you think

Big Vic 07-25-2018 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5151062)
Also... Ember Moon getting choked out by Asuka while naked.... err I mean... nah that's exactly what I mean.

Asuka wouldn't be on the PPV, Asians are not a protected minority.

The PPV would Be 2 Ironwoman matches

Alicia Fox vs Sasha

Ember Moon vs Naomi

Referee would be Jacquline
Commentator/Announcer: Jojo

Big Vic 07-25-2018 08:50 AM

Special appearance by "Du-rag Vince"

Innovator 07-25-2018 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5151065)
Asuka wouldn't be on the PPV, Asians are not a protected minority.

The PPV would Be 2 Ironwoman matches

Alicia Fox vs Sasha

Ember Moon vs Naomi

Referee would be Jacquline
Commentator/Announcer: Jojo

Shaniqua and Brandi Rhodes are the two returning acts

Innovator 07-25-2018 10:13 AM

https://i.redd.it/0f6ztiu6vzb11.jpg

Big Vic 07-25-2018 10:21 AM

Did you swipe right?

Evil Vito 07-25-2018 10:21 AM

Quite a distance ratio that person set

Innovator 07-25-2018 10:28 AM

Everyone should swipe right for the Good Brother

Innovator 07-25-2018 10:29 AM

Legit just had to google which way someone swipes on Tinder to say yes

slik 07-25-2018 10:36 AM

Barnburner claiming a #SCOOP about The Rock l8r today...hopefully u don't have to listen to a podcast and it's just an article

Jordan 07-25-2018 11:35 AM

I'm reading that The Rock may be wrestling at Wrestlemania. Rock vs Roman would be the money for sure.

Jordan 07-25-2018 11:36 AM

I'd say that Skyscrapers poor opening weekend in the US has a lot to do with this. Gotta regain that core audience.

Jordan 07-25-2018 11:45 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Seems as if this news is going to hit soon but, It seems like The Rock is leaning towards wrestling in 2019(Mania)and making some WWE appearances sooner rather than later. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a></p>&mdash; 17ABay �� (@TicketDrew) <a href="https://twitter.com/TicketDrew/status/1022130718649065472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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LibSuperstar 07-25-2018 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X
I'm reading that The Rock may be wrestling at Wrestlemania. Rock vs Roman would be the money for sure.

Would be the main event if it happened.

Innovator 07-25-2018 12:02 PM

Rumor mill is saying Vince is high on Almas after the AJ match

Big Vic 07-25-2018 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 5151101)
Rumor mill is saying Vince is high on Almas

Sounds funny.

slik 07-25-2018 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5151095)
I'm reading that The Rock may be wrestling at Wrestlemania. Rock vs Roman would be the money for sure.


I wasn't planning on attending WM35 and was leaning towards the RR19...might have to hashtag re-think this though via The Rock

slik 07-25-2018 12:40 PM

I joked earlier this year about how WWE's goal each year seems to be to find a way to get the WM crowd to respond even more hostile towards Roman Reigns than ever before

I think Roman beating The Rock would be pretty up there on the list.

slik 07-25-2018 12:44 PM

I could see them picking up that HHH vs Rock feud they've teased a few times over the last couple of years.

Big Vic 07-25-2018 12:45 PM

WM36 Roman vs Stone Cold
WM37 Roman vs Ronda
WM38 Roman vs a small baby

Innovator 07-25-2018 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5151111)
I joked earlier this year about how WWE's goal each year seems to be to find a way to get get the WM crowd to respond even more hostile towards Roman Reigns than ever before

I think Roman beating The Rock would be pretty up there on the list.

Rock costs Roman the title at Summerslam, BRAUN cashes in on Brock at RAW

Innovator 07-25-2018 12:48 PM

He does it for ....the people

Jordan 07-25-2018 01:02 PM

I'm quite sold that KO is going to walk out of Summersfest with the Universal Championship.

Jordan 07-25-2018 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5151112)
I could see them picking up that HHH vs Rock feud they've teased a few times over the last couple of years.

That would be such a waste. I hope Triple H is not on the WM card at 35. Unless he's against AJ, just because that would elevate AJ.

slik 07-25-2018 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5151119)
I'm quite sold that KO is going to walk out of Summersfest with the Universal Championship.

Ditto.

I think Roman finally beats Lesnar, the plan set in motion when Lesnar ended the streak...only to have KO come out and cash in his newly won MITB briefcase and leave Brooklyn as Universal Champ.

slik 07-25-2018 01:15 PM

Honestly, there isn't anyone other than KO whose qualified to be the top heel on RAW these days. KO is more over than Baron. Drew could be more qualified in time, after he ditches the Dolph.

GD 07-25-2018 02:06 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: In a celebratory mood, <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEBigE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEBigE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TrueKofi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TrueKofi</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/XavierWoodsPhD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@XavierWoodsPhD</a> COMPLETELY took over interview duties backstage at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a>! <a href="https://t.co/0eCNyThiEf">pic.twitter.com/0eCNyThiEf</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1021975597646458880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Big Vic 07-25-2018 02:12 PM

Was Ivory leading RTC at the end of its run?

Evil Vito 07-25-2018 05:00 PM

Nah, it was always Steven Richards.

Vastardikai 07-25-2018 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Devendra Banhart (Post 5151138)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EXCLUSIVE: In a celebratory mood, <a href="https://twitter.com/WWEBigE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWEBigE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/TrueKofi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TrueKofi</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/XavierWoodsPhD?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@XavierWoodsPhD</a> COMPLETELY took over interview duties backstage at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a>! <a href="https://t.co/0eCNyThiEf">pic.twitter.com/0eCNyThiEf</a></p>&mdash; WWE (@WWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1021975597646458880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looked like Big E was having some NXT flashbacks for a second.

Also, THAT Big E was amazing. THAT Big E would be a top draw in any company in the world that isn't WWE.

Shadrick 07-25-2018 09:42 PM

Do you know how badly I'd want heel rock vs face roman at mania? Only to have Roman win and fucking destroy the Rock after, finally turning for real? the heat....

in fairness i want heel rock vs anyone.

Damian Rey 2.0 07-25-2018 10:09 PM

Hollywood Rock gets my views

Emperor Smeat 07-25-2018 10:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bryan going on a rampage and then neatly putting the velvet rope back in place is just amazing. <a href="https://t.co/mCnpC2jnVJ">pic.twitter.com/mCnpC2jnVJ</a></p>&mdash; TDE Wrestling (@totaldivaseps) <a href="https://twitter.com/totaldivaseps/status/1021938072030797824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 25, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Ol Dirty Dastard 07-25-2018 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5151224)
Hollywood Rock gets my views

Hollywood Rock got more cheers than Face Rock who faced Brock Lesnar. WWE books heels more like faces.

Emperor Smeat 07-25-2018 11:43 PM

Seems WWE's plans for Hogan's backstage apology backfired even more than previously thought.

Titus O'Neil released another statement about the Hogan meeting and unlike previous times, he didn't hold back on his real feelings towards Hogan's apology.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TPWW Frontpage via Triple A
“I have zero respect for the way he came about his apology. It was not an apology and I still feel very strongly about that" ...

“He may regret it. But to come out and say, ‘you know, I didn’t know I was being recorded’ and ‘you know, be careful what you say’ and ‘I don’t remember what I said – I don’t remember saying that stuff’. When you start off an apology like that? Dude, you lost me already. I wanted to give him a chance. I didn’t know what that meeting was about going in, but I wanted to give him a chance. And he legitimately screwed that all up. Because, again, it’s not about making a mistake. It’s not a mistake.”

“The inconsistencies of the apology along with the lack of remorse and contrition with the apologies, are the reason why I felt, and many others felt in that meeting that this was a complete waste of our time.”

Came from a recent episode of the Busted Open Radio show with Mark Henry as one of the hosts.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-25-2018 11:49 PM

Not only is Hulk racist - but he may be fucking retarded.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-25-2018 11:50 PM

and how could WWE not vet the apology?

Vastardikai 07-26-2018 12:23 AM

Considering how much of the talent that would see through his apology is "only there to have fun," do you really think they Gave a Single Solitary Fuck if it was sincere?

Damian Rey 2.0 07-26-2018 12:34 AM

If that's really how he opened, and kept saying it was mistake, then Hogan's lack of self awareness is on another level.

Mr. Nerfect 07-26-2018 04:17 AM

I dunno, guys. Maybe being upset about this insensitivity is insensitive, and isn’t constructive to the discourse?

Big Vic 07-26-2018 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5151058)
I agree with Noid, we should have an all black woman PPV.

lol


<table class="tborder" width="100%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="6" border="0" align="center"><tbody id="collapseobj_usercp_reputation"><tr><td class="thead"> </td> <td class="thead">Thread</td> <td class="thead">Date</td> <td class="thead" nowrap="nowrap">Posted By</td> <td class="thead">Comment</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="alt2">http://www.tpwwforums.com/images/rep...tation_neg.gif</td> <td class="alt1Active" width="50%"> "100,001" Replies... </td> <td class="alt2" nowrap="nowrap">07-26-2018 04:14 AM</td> <td class="alt1" nowrap="nowrap"> Noid </td> <td class="alt2" width="50%">Fucking gross. Shit like that isn’t funny.</td></tr></tbody></table>

screech 07-26-2018 08:26 AM

Well, I learned something today

screech 07-26-2018 08:59 AM

Caught up on RAW yesterday. I didn't think I'd enjoy The B Team so much.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-26-2018 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5151274)
lol


<table class="tborder" width="100%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="6" border="0" align="center"><tbody id="collapseobj_usercp_reputation"><tr><td class="thead"> </td> <td class="thead">Thread</td> <td class="thead">Date</td> <td class="thead" nowrap="nowrap">Posted By</td> <td class="thead">Comment</td> </tr> <tr> <td class="alt2">http://www.tpwwforums.com/images/rep...tation_neg.gif</td> <td class="alt1Active" width="50%"> "100,001" Replies... </td> <td class="alt2" nowrap="nowrap">07-26-2018 04:14 AM</td> <td class="alt1" nowrap="nowrap"> Noid </td> <td class="alt2" width="50%">Fucking gross. Shit like that isn’t funny.</td></tr></tbody></table>

Noid has a lot on his plate as the white saviour of the masses. Forgive his surliness.

Big Vic 07-26-2018 10:11 AM

Noid probably did some very racist things in his past and is now trying to make up for it.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-26-2018 10:19 AM

Noid just is racist lol.

Big Vic 07-26-2018 10:21 AM

Hmmm possibly, he only wanted to push wrestlers like doug and danny basshem, as well as Val Venis.

Never D'Lo or Savio Vega.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-26-2018 10:28 AM

People who play the identity politics game as hard as he does are often times veiling their overt racism.

Big Vic 07-26-2018 10:38 AM

Noid seems like a racist with good intentions. like he would say

"Voting ID laws are racist because black people have a hard time getting an ID."

Or something Asinine like that.

Big Vic 07-26-2018 10:53 AM

Hey remember when Noid wanted to see black face on Raw?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 1117381)
I would mark the fuck out if Charlie Haas dresses up as a heavyset black woman and actually gets the part.


Vastardikai 07-26-2018 01:23 PM

If you care to know why I am single...

For my own amusement, I came up with a stable consisting of Bret Hart, Hulk Hogan, Kamala, Finlay, the second Max Moon, and Hillbilly Jim.

And if you know the theme here, you should be able to guess who other members should be. New Day is among them.

Cool King 07-26-2018 02:42 PM

I miss Charlie Hass.

He was really good.

Cool King 07-26-2018 02:42 PM

But has Haas is now retired, I'm happy to accept Charlie Haas V2.

Or as the WWE call him, Chad Gable.

He's really good too.

Cool King 07-26-2018 02:47 PM

https://shop.wwe.com/on/demandware.s...rge/9P1001.jpg

Gerard 07-26-2018 02:58 PM

https://i.imgur.com/J7SWgl3.jpg


Great camera shot :lol:

Cool King 07-26-2018 03:07 PM

http://i.imgur.com/BK1vAcV.gif

Cool King 07-26-2018 03:08 PM

Another example of good camera work.

Jordan 07-26-2018 03:15 PM

On The Rock at WM 35...

I'm suspecting that it is more likely he does a Rock Concert opposite Elias ending with a Rock Bottom/Peoples Elbow than an actual match.

Fignuts 07-26-2018 03:18 PM

Okay, that lucha house shirt is pretty cool.

Big Vic 07-26-2018 03:23 PM

Except for that ugly tag.

Jordan 07-26-2018 03:26 PM

Yeah the In Your House inspired shirt is cool but that team is so minimal I can't really imagine why they even made it. They need to give them some TV time, Sin Cara is so damn good.

Cool King 07-26-2018 03:33 PM

They could be about to give them TV time.

Tye Dillinger disappeared for months and then got a new shirt out of nowhere and a week or two later, he was having a match on SmackDown and appeared backstage the following week.

Cool King 07-26-2018 03:33 PM

Sure, he jobbed in that match but he was still on TV.

XL 07-26-2018 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5151378)
Yeah the In Your House inspired shirt is cool but that team is so minimal I can't really imagine why they even made it. They need to give them some TV time, Sin Cara is so damn good.

But Sin Cara isn’t in Lucha House Party.

Seanny One Ball 07-26-2018 05:47 PM

Reading "The death of WCW" and for some reason I had an idea for a wrestling angle I thought would be cool to see.
Has any major promotion ever done a blackmail/extortion angle where it turns out a Champ is only winning because he/she has some sort of long-standing leverage over a ref?

That could work pretty well with some vignettes of the wrestler and the ref having secret meetings. Probably could get 6 months out of that. You'd probably have to teach the guy to count 3 in a not-immediately-noticeably faster time. Like 2.5 seconds.
Then you could show a few vignettes of the secret meetings/suspicious activity over time and have a repeatedly screwed contender put together a tape of the fast counts to show that the champ was "a full 3 count away from being the champ".

I'm rambling and I have probably just recreated some well known old angle but it sounds good in my head.

screech 07-26-2018 05:55 PM

I would enjoy that. I liked when Nick Patrick was the nWo (/Alliance) ref. It would be neat to see a ref "in the Champ's pocket."

I wonder which wrestler/ref combo could pull that off in WWE. Did you have anyone in mind?

Seanny One Ball 07-26-2018 06:01 PM

I haven't seen WWE in years mate. I'm just back into watching documentaries and old matches recently.

It would have to be somebody nobody would expect. Somebody over but not near the title scene so that a sneaky fast-rise would look confusingly legit and completely out of the blue.

mike adamle 07-26-2018 06:02 PM

Never knew Noid was such a racist. What ISN'T wrong with that guy?

Seanny One Ball 07-26-2018 06:05 PM

If it was done in the 2000's you'd use somebody like Eddie Guerrero. That would have been a great way for him to become champ while he was probably the best performer in the company.

Emperor Smeat 07-26-2018 06:21 PM

Seems Jason Jordan is dealing with a Daniel Bryan situation right now.

PWI reported he still hasn't been medically cleared yet even though WWE only expected him to be out for a few weeks to a couple months at most. Rumor going online is that Jordan's doctors have cleared him but WWE refuses to do the same.

Jordan 07-26-2018 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5151422)
If it was done in the 2000's you'd use somebody like Eddie Guerrero. That would have been a great way for him to become champ while he was probably the best performer in the company.

I like the idea. Before you said Eddie I was think Andrade Almos, who is WWE’s top Mexican heavyweight. Would be a good angle for sure. It could lead up to him taking the US title which would be good heat.

screech 07-26-2018 09:15 PM

Almas would be a good pick for this, especially because it would add to Zelina Vega pulling off another great "business move" for him.

Seanny One Ball 07-26-2018 09:24 PM

I looked him up and his hammerlock DDT looks a bit dangerous.

Emperor Smeat 07-26-2018 09:59 PM

According to the WWE, the actual details of their deal with the Saudi government can not be revealed due to confidentially clauses in the contract.

Turns out WWE was a bit sloppy trying to hide it in their recent investor's report and its rumored to be in the range of $49 million per year. Basis for the number is a revenue spike in an area of WWE's financial report that WWE left vague for why it happened.

Bad News Gertner 07-26-2018 10:37 PM

Lol this got pointed out on a podcast that I listen to and it's so nerdy and stupid, but hilarious at the same time.

When the WWE made gave X Factor the Uncle Kracker theme, they took the first time the word "X Factor" was said and spliced it into the rest of the song because they were too cheap to have Uncle Kracker actually record it


DAMN iNATOR 07-27-2018 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5151232)
Hollywood Rock got more cheers than Face Rock who faced Brock Lesnar. WWE books heels more like faces.

In Rock's case though it speaks more to his ability as a performer to control crowds like he was the puppetmaster and they were his puppets. He was able to get them to pop with his catchphrases and other mannerisms only to be able to quickly get heat from them again by doing things like yelling at them not to chant or sing along with him. Very few heels nowadays, however, seem to be able to do that to the degree he can...maybe Elias is starting to build to that point but I don't feel he's there just yet.

DAMN iNATOR 07-27-2018 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5151420)
I haven't seen WWE in years mate. I'm just back into watching documentaries and old matches recently.

It would have to be somebody nobody would expect. Somebody over but not near the title scene so that a sneaky fast-rise would look confusingly legit and completely out of the blue.

How about Zack Ryder whom resident wrestling forum grouch Noid loathes to no end? Anything to get under his skin would be most excellent IMHO!

Mr. Nerfect 07-27-2018 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5151425)
Seems Jason Jordan is dealing with a Daniel Bryan situation right now.

PWI reported he still hasn't been medically cleared yet even though WWE only expected him to be out for a few weeks to a couple months at most. Rumor going online is that Jordan's doctors have cleared him but WWE refuses to do the same.

This seems very weird. Jordan seems like someone they would rush back if the clearance was there. If there's something to this, it's certainly an odd situation. It's possible that Jordan is just out longer than expected and people are misjudging the time-frames he was out by.

Innovator 07-27-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Some sad guy

The Sasha vs Bayley Saga

1/28/18 - Women’s Royal Rumble match
Sasha eliminates Bayley after entering #1 (Thanks Rated_R_Poster for reminding me)
1/29/18 – Sasha has great match with Asuka which she loses.
2/5/18 – Sasha believes she can beat Asuka, but Bayley boasts she has beaten Sasha before, which mean she can beat Asuka too.
Bayley has a match with Asuka and loses, but Asuka shakes her hand afterwards which she did not do to Sasha.
2/12/18 – Bayley and Sasha snipe back and forth and Kurt Angle makes a match between the two.
Bayley got the win. After the match they stare at each other before Nia Jax interrupts and destroys both of them.
2/19/18 – Bayley and Sasha team with Mickie in a 6 woman tag with all Chamber participants.
2/25/18 – Elimination chamber match and Sasha and Bayley’s Lion King moment.
2/26/18 – Another 6 woman tag with them on a team. Initially seem to be getting along once the match started Sasha clearly wanted the win for herself, but eventually conceded and went to tag Bayley who hopped off the apron.
Sasha tags Asuka in and Bayley does aid Asuka. Ends with Sasha staring daggers at Bayley.
3/5/18 – Bayley has a match against Mandy Rose w/ Absolution at ringside.
Bayley overcomes the odds and wins but gets beat down after the match.
Sasha runs them off and helps Bayley to her feet, but Bayley refuses to give her a hug!
3/12/18 – Sasha versus Sonya Deville w/ Bayley and Absolution at ringside. Bayley does help Sasha during the match, but leaves after Sasha picks up the win allowing her to be beatdown by Absolution.
3/19/18 – Sasha decides to forgive Bayley, because she is the bigger person. gasp
The Hug gangster clearly does not believe the Boss’ words and responds.
Bayley states that she didn’t mind what Sasha did during the Chamber match, but rather how much she seemed to enjoy.
They are interrupted by Absolution and a tag match starts.
Sasha accidentally distracts the ref from counting what would have been the winning pin by Bayley.
Bayley is pushed in Sasha, who is on the apron, knocking her off leading to Bayley getting pinned and losing the match.
3/26/18 – Sasha and Bayley become the first 2 women to declare themselves in the Wrestlemania Andre the Tiny Moolah Fabulous trophy battle royale.
Bayley and Sasha argue back and forth, Bayley claiming that Sasha always took advantage of her and Sasha made no apologies for her me first mentality.
Bayley finally hits a nerve when she says “Even though Banks was a 4 time champion, she never held it for that long.”
Which led to Sasha throwing Bayley into lockers and the two fighting before being pulled apart by refs.
4/2/18 – Bayley vs Sonya Deville w/ Absolution at ringside. Bayley wins, but gets beatdown after the match.
Sasha comes down for the save and then aggressively demands that Bayley allow her to raise her hand. Bayley refuses and the two brawl again.
Absolution takes advantage of them fighting one another and takes both women out.
4/8/18 – WM Battle Royale, Bayley eliminates Sasha to win! Or not. Have Naomi win and then Banks and Bayley both wallow in defeat outside while Naomi hugs bronze ovaries.
4/9/18 – Sasha vs Mandy Rose w/ Absolution at ringside (Paige announces her retirement on this episode)
Bayley makes her entrance right before the match starts.
Mandy Rose goads Bayley into taking a swing and she accidentally hits Sasha instead who goes on to lose.
4/16/18 – First day of Superstar shakeup.
Bayley vs Sasha #2 gets interrupted by the debuting on Raw Riott Squad, and are beatdown.
4/23/18 – 5 on 5 women’s tag w/ Bayley and Sasha on the same team. Rousey eventually comes out and causes a DQ loss for the two. No real significant interaction between them.
4/30/18 – Sasha can’t get a hold of Bayley and has to go into her match tonight without her.
Sasha vs Ruby Riott w/ the Riott Squad at ringside (I’m sensing a pattern here)
Sasha ends up losing thanks to the numbers game, while Bayley was shown backstage watching the match, but not going out to help.
5/7/18 – MITB Qualifying match Sasha vs Ruby Riott vs Ember Moon w/ Riott Squad and Bayley at ringside
Bayley attempts to help and fight off the other members of the Riott Squad, but Ember Moon ends up taking the victory
5/14/18 – MITB qualifying match Bayley vs Alexa Bliss vs Mickie James
Alexa wins
No interaction between the two
5/21/18 – The breathtaking Emmy worth segment that was Bobby Lashley’s sisters occurred.
Neither Sasha or Bayley was on this episode.
5/28/18 – MITB qualifying gauntlet match
Bayley starts at number 1 and between both Liv Morgan at 2 and Sarah Logan at 3, before being down by both allowing Ruby Riott at 4 to pick up the easy win.
Sasha comes in last and is able to beat a very game Ruby Riott who had already eliminated Bayley, Dana Brooke, and Mickie James, qualifying for the last spot in the MITB match.
6/4/18 – The Riott Squad vs Sasha Banks, Alexa Bliss, and Ember Moon.
Alexa fakes an injury causing Bayley to run down and take her place on Sasha’s team.
Bayley gets the win but Corbin got Angle to overrule it since she wasn’t legally in the match. Ruining what was a near moment of reconciliation between the two.
6/11/18 – Bayley gets an R painted on her chest in lipstick by the Riott Squad after getting beatdown.
Sasha competed in a fatal four way with the other MITB Raw contenders.
No interaction between the two.
6/17/18 – MITB match Sasha loses
Bayley not on the show, so no interaction.
My life feels very tedious right now
6/18/18 – Sasha & Bayley vs Liv Logan & Sarah Morgan
Liv pins Sasha with a handful of tights, Sasha gets upset and pushes Bayley to the ground.
Bayley follows Sasha backstage and attempts to confront her, but Sasha ignored her pleas leading to another brawl between the two.
Bayley tries to talk to Sasha once again, but Sasha again wouldn’t listen and drives off. Bayley throwing a water bottle after the car in a futile gesture
It really is starting to sounds like a romantic comedy at this point.
6/25/18 – Angle says that the two are really important to Raw so he is giving them one more chance in a 3 on 3 tag match.
From the start they work very reluctantly together, and after Sasha is pinned Bayley goes wild and beats the crap out of Sasha.
Which leads to Angle ordering the two into mandatory counseling or lose their job.
7/2/18 – Both Sasha and Bayley were unaware that their session was going to be together.
Honesty theatre… I just don’t know what to say
This was horrible
7/9/18 – Second week of counseling
Bayley continues on about how Sasha has stabbed her in the back and we as viewers continue to tune out
Cole claims that the report will not be favorable for one them
7/16/18 – Kurt threatens to trade one of them to Smackdown if they can’t coexist in a tag match… Again
Sasha & Bayley vs Alicia & Dana
Sasha get them DQ’ed
Sasha says that only she gets to beat Bayley up and that she loves how she always cares, but that it is hard for her to be as open about her emotions as Bayley, leading to an emotional declaration of love.


Mr. Nerfect 07-27-2018 11:22 AM

I just worked out you can put people on your ignore list, so instead of getting frustrated and bent out of shape by the casual racism on these boards, I can just ignore the racists. Fucking brilliant. :D

Mr. Nerfect 07-27-2018 11:25 AM

Re: Sasha vs. Bayley:

If they weren't going to feud, it seems weird to have them come to blows, but it seems weird to cool it down with all this other stuff. I wonder if the plan was to have them feud one week, and then it changed the next because they remembered they might want a set of Women's Tag belts?

Evil Vito 07-27-2018 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5151425)
Seems Jason Jordan is dealing with a Daniel Bryan situation right now.

PWI reported he still hasn't been medically cleared yet even though WWE only expected him to be out for a few weeks to a couple months at most. Rumor going online is that Jordan's doctors have cleared him but WWE refuses to do the same.

His blood tests threw up some surprising information in the ongoing paternity case.

RP 07-27-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5151584)
Re: Sasha vs. Bayley:

If they weren't going to feud, it seems weird to have them come to blows, but it seems weird to cool it down with all this other stuff. I wonder if the plan was to have them feud one week, and then it changed the next because they remembered they might want a set of Women's Tag belts?

My prediction

Sasha turns on Bayley next week because she feels like Bayley isnt reciprocating the love Sasha is giving. And then the Summerslam match is made.

Big Vic 07-27-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5151583)
I just worked out you can put people on your ignore list, so instead of getting frustrated and bent out of shape by the casual racism on these boards, I can just ignore the racists. Fucking brilliant. :D

How can you ignore yourself?


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