Go ticats

They don't need your un-knowledgeable endorsement, thank you.

>=(

They need any endorsement they can get, who are you kidding lol

Don't feel bad Gin and Ronic, Canada will always be America's hat.

<font color=goldenrod>Ruben Amaro Jr has a new job...........








......Red Sox first base coach</font> :lol:

Lmao seriously?

Well, Dan Jennings went from Marlins GM to Marlins manager..........and back to being GM. Ruben ain't exactly making history, just taking a road seldom traveled by front office execs.

throw dale newstead out of the thread for arguing balls and strikes please.......

Jobbed indeed. I am not taking anything away from the Royals and Jays had their chances and should have capitalized, but that call was horrendous and literally changed the outcome of the game.

Get out of here John Hershbeck.

There was two of them, one on Navarro and also a missed balk. I don't thnk it's a conspiracy against the Jays, I think it was Jeff Nelson choking in the ninth inning of a big game. BUT, what happens when you miss your opportunitites early on is often in ANY sport, the calls towards the end have a way of going against you.

And also, it says something about Wade Davis that you can't give him a two strike count lol

<font color=goldenrod>That 9th inning of Game 6 pissed me off big time. I said way back in June when the Mets and Blue Jays played a 4 game home-and-home series that it would be a dream World Series matchup to see the Mets' pitchers vs. the Jays bats.

It also would have been a better matchup for my Mets probably. Royals are objectively a way more complete team than the Mets. The good thing is the one area the Mets have the edge is starting pitching, which is the most important thing in the playoffs. They're going to live and die with their starters. Simple as that.</font>

shut up dale

you got a guy on 3rd with no out and you can't score him, no amount of shitty ball/strike calls makes up for that

jays didn't perform

fucking hate all these bandwagoners bitching about this, go back to moaning about the leafs every night

They shoulda bunted. What a dumbass manager. Hope he learned to say "I'm sorry" while he's been in Canada.

Well Mr. Doggie Dogg, take your potty mouth elsewhere.

Read what I said. The calls didn't sit well with me, but it says something that you can't give Wade Davis 2 strikes, because he's a monster. And also, they blew their opportunities early on, and usually in a tight game, when you don't capitalize, the calls go against you. That being said, those were some shite calls. I've seen calls go the Jays way all the same, (ie. Cecil striking out Gardner 3-2 with the bases loaded on a low strike, then striking out the side) but it's a point of contention regardless. The Royals deserved the win, and there wasn't much stopping them, but I'm allowed to be pissed with some shit calls, that jobbed Revere pretty hard. Donaldson also couldn't capitalize when he came up with 2 outs, and that's on him. Don't lump me in with whatever narrative you're trying to tell yourself.

Note, I never bitched about the home run. Price served one up and got pwnt, reach or no reach from neck beard boy. And the baseball gods squared it out by having Revere make that unbelievable catch later in the game.

Also, fuck the Leafs fans, cannot stand them.

Man, my brother is having one hell of a year. His favorite NBA team won a title and his favorite baseball team the Mets have a good chance. I'll be rooting for the Royals.

If you complain about balls and strikes you are a giant pussy whiny bitch get over it

Go away catfish boy.

More importantly, where's David Price going? Hope the Jays pick him up, he's a class act. But is there any word Stateside about preferred spots for him?

<font color=goldenrod>Wouldn't surprise me to see the Dodgers open up their wallets to bring in Price, regardless of whether or not they're able to re-sign Greinke.

They're gonna end up putting the early 2000s Yankees to shame in terms of dollars spent.</font>

No argument from me there. From the beginning of the series you can find posts of me praising the virtues of Kansas City. You even repped me for one of my posts.

People are too black and white. Because I'm saying that Revere got jobbed in his at bat and I think Nelson choked as an ump, I'm saying the Jays deserved to win. Kansas City deserved to win, but Revere (And Navarro to a lesser extent) deserved a fair shake at bat. The two aren't mutually exclusive. And I think the Jays deserve credit for sticking around in that game that long. Their offence was piss poor, but they really played some great defence to keep them in it.

I'm not "one of those" Jays fans. I don't accuse guys of choking, accuse guys of cheating, blah blah blah, but a bad call is a bad call. And yeah, if you're the actual better team that night, they usually don't effect you.

Hell I even said Volquez was hard done by on that call in game 5. Only difference is they'd walked Bautista all series and he fought off about a billion pitches, and the umpire gave him (incorrectly) the benefit of the doubt.

Well they are mostly just leafs fans latching into anything they can.

I think it'll probably lead to more of a push to have balls and strikes review-able. Might not lead anywhere.

Meh no point, it'd slow down the game too much. Umps just need to be consistent and accountable.

lol

Don't u lol me. We are now mortal enemies.

I don't get it though. Am I not cool enough to be a baseball fan. I legit knew like every player from the ages of 6-13. I wanted to be Pet Hentgen. Clearly I don't pass Tonyboys test.

At 40 years old and 19 seasons of service, Torii Hunter decides to call it a career.

The man put on a show when he was in the outfield.

love Torii

<font color=goldenrod>Can't read another article about this World Series. I've analyzed the hell out of it for the better part of a week and still am completely 50/50 on how this will go.

The Mets' success hinges on the starting pitching keeping up with what they've been doing, and the offense being able to jump on the KC starters early. But no team hits the high heat better than KC, and who knows if the layoff will have an adverse impact on the Mets' bats, especially if they try too hard to swing for the fences like Toronto did.

Hell, both teams even have a compelling backstory. The Mets have felt like a team of destiny since Wilmer Flores hit that walkoff bomb off of the Nats days after nearly being traded. The Royals are coming off of a year in which they were a hit away from winning the World Series in Game 7 only to lose, which is essentially the baseball version of blue balls.

It's been a 15 year wait, who knows when they'll be able to get back here. Just gonna enjoy this while I can. Ready to watch some baseball.</font>

I think they've seemed like the team of destiny since Flores openly wept on the field. That whole situation was pretty cool. Especially how Terry Collins handled it.

<font color=goldenrod>The Flores situation was unlike anything I've seen before. It will definitely sting if they don't finish the deal here given how different the team might look next year. Nearly all of the players they traded for are impending free agents, with Cespedes of course being the marquee name. And now Murphy appears to be ready to cash in on a huge payday. Harvey and Familia among others are due substantial arbitration raises.

The Mets will definitely see a financial windfall from the extra revenue from getting this deep into October. The question is whether or not the Wilpons will be willing to reinvest those funds back into the team to either keep one of Cespedes/Murphy or bring in a big bat from the outside. The goodwill they've bought with the fans in the last couple of months will fade pretty quickly if they fall short of a championship and then do nothing in the offseason.

But alas, those are questions for the offseason and fortunately my Mets aren't there yet. Wish it was 8 PM.</font>

Well the Mets currently employ the Dark Knight, so I'd give them a pretty good shot.

Royals bring up one of their top guys Raul Mondesi Jr.

Wonder if this is game changer for the Series.

<font color=goldenrod>One pitch into the game and Collins is looking like an idiot for not DH'ing Conforto and playing Lagares in CF. How neither Conforto nor Cespedes caught that is a joke.</font>

Miami Marlins fan is back again behind home plate for the second World Series in a row. Bright orange jacket and all.

Just seems so out of place.

Daniel Murphy with a sweet hit to get things started for the Mets offence. On fire. Not trying to swing for the fences either, and then makes a great play running the bases. Great game so far, minus Cespedes little oops to start things off, defences are tight, and pitching is great. AND GRANDERSON JACKS ONE WOOOOOOO

Harvey settling in too, looks great.

Just waiting for his moment to do a run-in attack. Cubs failed with the Back to the Future stuff but Miami can still salvage something out of it by association.

I was bummed the Jays didn't advance but I'm glad I won't have to deal with any Gorgeous Dale Newstead posts for approximately ~300 days

oh wait nvm

sigh...

:kiss:

lol I don't understand, have I broken some cardinal rule of baseball? Would love to know why I'm the sultan of uncool in the baseball forum

<font color=goldenrod>Can't make any excuses for Harvey there. Needed a shutdown inning, didn't do it.

And now the Royals are about to jump into their bullpen. This doesn't bode well.</font>

Mets will be putting one up in the 8th, this current inning.

Called it

Lagares had a pretty sweet at bat

how them knuckles Vito?

<font color=goldenrod>That was a dagger in the heart of a team if I've ever seen one. :-\ The only trustworthy guy in the bullpen blows it.

I really can't see how the Mets escape this with a win. Hope deGrom is on his A-game tomorrow.</font>

haha, I wouldn't say "blows" it. One run games are notoriously fucking hard to save. Everybody's number is up eventually, the key is he didn't implode and we're onto extras.

<font color=goldenrod>He did blow it, though. I can't be mad at him because he's been money all season and postseason but he had the chance to lock down the biggest game of his life and he surrendered a moonshot. Sucks.

And this Mets bullpen is not gonna survive a battle of the bullpen with the Royals. They just won't.</font>

Jonathan Niese disagrees with you

<font color=goldenrod>lol why the fuck did they bother activating noted clutch pinch hitter Juan Uribe on the roster when they are just having Cuddyer take hapless swings.</font>

Damn. Hard game 1 loss. Granderson is coming through huge next game to carry the Mets.

<font color=goldenrod>What a clusterfuck of emotions last night. The Hosmer error invoked memories of Buckner only for Alex Gordon to be like "nope". Truthfully I knew the game was lost after that, and I said as much when it happened.

Familia definitely gets a share of the blame. Not as much as the offense for continually failing to capitalize or Harvey for letting up those 2 runs in the 6th when he needed to clamp down, but he did still blow the save in the biggest game of his life. It happens. Just really unfortunate timing.

Not winning that ballgame after that error is just a really bad omen I think. That may well be the only error the Royals commit all series, and they couldn't turn it into a win. Sucks.

But at the end of the day I never saw the Mets taking both games in KC. This team has come out guns blazing in the face of adversity all year. Gotta win tonight because the series is most certainly over if you let the Royals take a 2-0 lead. They're too good.</font>

Former Red Sox GM Ben Cherrington taking at least a year off from baseball after declining management jobs from both the Yankees and Phillies recently. Got hired at Colombia University as a teacher for their sports management program.

Would likely have become the assistant GM with the Yankees to replace the guy who recently left and likely as the possible new GM for the Phillies.

Cherrington's insight would have been a nice refresher for the Yankees.

Teaching.......interesting.

Anthopoulos rejected the Jays' contract extension. Mildly surprising but kind of what a lot of people expected would eventually happen when they got a new president. He should easily get a job elsewhere.

also, don't think I fully appreciated this hilarious news tidbit yet

<font color=goldenrod>Amaro (who numerous posters have made fun of and who noted Phillies fan screech hates) was the GM of Philly for the better part of the last decade. He got fired this year and now accepted a job as Boston's 1B coach.

Basically it's just a ridiculously huge demotion, especially since 1B coaches really have fuck all to do.</font>

They hand out butt pats and keep the guys' batting gloves safe.

Fucking hate everything

oh no no, I understand what happened and all, I just did not give it its appropriate LOL-ness

what I'm actually reading about the move though is that he may be trying to use it to transition into more of a manager role, and could feel that "on-field experience" may help him in that regard, which I guess kind of makes sense?

<font color=goldenrod>Might be. Just seems that first base coach duties are relatively light, enough so that I'm not sure how much experience there would be to glean from it. He'll probably be expected to be an infield coach or something in addition to 1B coach, as there's not too much he'd need to do in-game.

Feel like if you want to become a manager, you're best off trying to land a minor league gig where you can properly run a team and then work your way up from there. But who knows. I hope it works out for him somehow because it'd make for a nice story.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>Pretty sure eventually all 30 big league manergial jobs will be taken by former catchers anyway.</font>

Ausmus has been working out well so far!

Some management news:

* Marlins hired Don Mattingly as their new manager.
* Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopoulos rejected a contract extension and has left the team.
* Padres hired former D'Backs 3B coach Andy Green as their new manager.

Interested to see what Mark Shapiro does with the team.

Whoa. Double A left the Blue Jays?!

I don't think all the moves at the trade deadline warranted him to fall on his sword. Somebody will snatch him up.

Well I dunno, they offered to extend him with a handsome deal, so it's obviously about his motivations vs the team not wanting him. He's clearly not thrilled about suddenly having someone to answer to vs Paul Beeston who's a marketing guy and not a baseball guy.

I'm not overly concerned. One of the Jays analysts made the point that Mark Shapiro hasn't exactly come to Toronto looking to lose.

Biggest problem moving forward with Shapiro is if he tries to be the new sheriff in town and takes a resentful attitude towards the Toronto faithful weary of this controversial beginning to his tenure. The "I know better than you attitude" really only holds weight if you have actual success (within the organization) to draw upon. The community and players have a fondness for AA and aren't going to pleased with this. He needs to be smart and respect what he's coming into, and not be a giant (yet typical to these kinds of roles) dickwad about it, or else the attendance and fanbase as well as players willing to come play in Toronto will dwindle fast. This is a fickle city with baseball, they demand results or they don't go to ball games.

The most concerning thing is if he starts trying to work from a shoelace budget perspective and doesn't make winning moves, but instead rebuild or status quo moves. The writing will be on the wall at that point that this guy in this situation is completely up his own ass and he simply won't last.

shoestring budget* SHOELACES ARE EXPENSIVE YO

After the Marlins hire Donnie Baseball as manager, they turn around and fire GM/Manager Dan Jennings.

Mattingly mad a big mistake taking the Miami job. Loria is a basketcase. And this move proves it.

They hired Don Kelly?!

Mets got Bucknered! Poetic Justice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<font color=goldenrod>lol you're probably the only Red Sox fan that cares about Bill Buckner even after winning 3 titles since 1986.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>anyway, unfortunate loss but I'm nowhere near as bummed as I thought I would be. I basically thought the series was over at 2-0 and had vowed to not allow myself to get my hopes up unless they knotted it up 2-2.

would be hilarious if the Mets can pull off the biggest heist in World Series history but I just don't see it. Royals have got this. still a far better Mets year than I ever could have hoped for.</font>

Yeah the Murphy error was costly but nowhere near as costly as walking 2 Royals in a row especially when ur up 0-2 in the count. Royals are fucking back breaking.

<font color=goldenrod>I still think Game 7 of the 2006 NLCS hurt me worse than any of these late World Series losses. Might have just been where I was in my fandom at that time. There was absolutely zero doubt in my mind that that team was winning the World Series. And when Beltran took that backwards K I went completely numb.

Games 1 and 4 this year hurt, but I still didn't feel the same level of disappointment that I did in 2006. You know that Simpsons ep where Bart pauses the tape to pinpoint the second that Ralph's heart breaks after Lisa dumps him? That was me in 2006. I think it single-handedly altered the way I view baseball and sports in general because it was really the first time in my sports fandom that I got completely crushed in part due to having unwavering confidence. Seriously, go back to some of the really old MLB threads and you'll see how different my mindset was, lol.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>I know I've gotten a lot of shit over the years for being negative, and even I can admit I've been irrational at times. But this year made me understand that there is light at the end of the tunnel. There's no guarantee how long the window of contention will stay open, so I've just embraced this run while I can and have accepted it for what it was.

You look at comments on Mets blogs and you'll see loads of people talking about how this year was their chance and how they have a feeling the Mets will find a way to not make the playoffs again in the next few years with this pitching staff. The average Mets fan is wayyyyyy more jaded than even I am. I have no idea what the Mets will do in the next few years, but I do know that the very idea of having a guy who throws 96 MPH with his left arm like Matz as our fucking #4 (maybe even #5 once Wheeler is back) starter is simply outrageous. Win or lose I can't wait to see these guys pitch the next few years.</font>

Come on Mets!!!!! Fuck.

@Vito Cruz you should be jaded. They are the fucking Mets. Misery.

Wow Mets

Either throw that to first a lot quicker or force the guy at 3rd to stay even if meant letting the other runner go to first.

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On the flip side, Familia for the Mets now owns the WS record for most blown saves with those 3 games.

Good to see that FOX Sports is only interested in making sure that Canada's national flag is nowhere near the Commissioner's Trophy.

To me, FOX committed an anti-Jays, anti-Canada fuckjob in the ALCS. If FOX is going to use Old Glory like that, then FOX should be stripped permanently of the MLB broadcast rights, and have them go to CBS...it'd be nice vengeance for what FOX did to CBS in 1993, getting the NFC games package for the NFL out of CBS' hands.

FOX should have been banned from bidding, given the network's contaminated social editorial direction. > = (

lol

<font color=goldenrod>Poor Familia really deserves better fate than blowing 3 saves in the World Series. The media will try its hardest to paint him as a choke artist despite his amazing season...even though his only proper blown save was in game 1. In games 4 and 5 he came into impossibly difficult situations and got victimized by the Mets' awful infield defense. Rivera wouldn't have gotten out of those jams against this Royals team.

Can just chalk it all up to the save being a completely arbitrary and meaningless statistic really.</font>

<font color=goldenrod>I was at my dad's watching the game and after the bottom of the 9th I went home and went straight to bed. Duda's misplay made me sick and then seeing them respond with going down 1-2-3 with minimal resistance was all I needed to see. I had no desire to keep watching at that point. They wouldn't have scored again if they played 50 more innings.

There would have been more honor in getting swept decisively in each game than there is flat out blowing 3 games in the fucking World Series. The Royals of course deserve the credit for being tough bastards and for capitalizing on any and all Mets mistakes, but jesus christ the Mets fucking bricked it especially in games 4 and 5.</font>

Seems crazy that every player on the Royals played in the World Series. Feel like that just doesn't happen.

The Royals have a very back breaking style of play. Any time you lose to them, it just makes you look bad, due to how good they are. Not only is the offence disciplined and consistent, where they make the pitcher work for EVERY OUT, but they put the ball in play and make the defence work for every out.

On top of that, for every team, it's a race to the sixth inning. Not just to be winning, and have a lead, but to have a substantial lead so you don't have the battle against their bullpen. Blown leads don't mean so much when you aren't up against an almost 100 per cent SHUT DOWN bullpen where you just can't get runs off of them.

So Vito, the Mets were over matched. It hurts to blow games, but they hadn't played a team like Kansas City, who are just down dirty battle tested dogs. Kansas City is MLBs wake up call. Starting from shattering Houston's rallying cry, to winning a nice little series against the Jays, where both teams shined but KC was clearly the better team to just breaking the Mets' backs from game one by just grinding.

Credit given where its due for the Royals bringing home a title, but let's not pretend that the Mets very much blew it both on defense and game management. Harvey shouldn't have gone out for the 9th, Familia should've not been used in a blowout game that burned precious innings, Collins should've deployed Ligares in game one, and pulled DeGrom in game 2 before it got out of hand.

Granted, the Royals took extreme advantage of the opportunities presented to them and maybe the series ends in their favor anyways. But it didn't need to end last night with the Mets handing the trophy over.

<font color=goldenrod>I was 100% on board with Harvey coming out for the 9th. He'd earned the chance. But leaving him in after the leadoff walk to Cain was stupid.

Tying run on 2nd with no outs against a Royals team that puts everything in play was a situation almost nobody could have gotten out of. And Familia basically did get out of it and did exactly what he needed to do...until fucking Duda botched a throw that a Little Leaguer would have made in stride.</font>