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#1-norm-fan 06-06-2018 10:48 AM

Shocking that they aren't showing any Smackdown episodes to really show off Kevin Dunn's cutting edge work on Windows Movie Maker. Those Emmy voters would eat that shit up.

#1-norm-fan 06-06-2018 10:52 AM

When the word "Rockstar" scrolled across the screen during Nakamura's entrance in order to inform the audience that he was a rock star, television as we know it changed forever.

Walking Dead is sure to get their own copy of Windows Movie Maker next season so they can have "SCARY" scroll across the screen during zombie attacks.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-06-2018 10:58 AM

I do enjoy how WWE can't let anything be organic. Shinsuke didn't become a "rockstar" or w/e the fuck they decided he was in Japan because he told everyone he was. It's incredible how even the slightest hint of subtlety is completely lost on such an overwhelmingly successful entity.

"YOU'LL LIKE WHO I TELL YOU TO LIKE"- Vince McMahon

#1-norm-fan 06-06-2018 11:01 AM

It's like the episode of Seinfeld where George awkwardly tries to force the nickname "T-Bone" on himself. WWE literally has the self-awareness of an out of touch sitcom character.

BigCrippyZ 06-06-2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5130886)
It's like the episode of Seinfeld where George awkwardly tries to force the nickname "T-Bone" on himself. WWE literally has the self-awareness of an out of touch sitcom character.

:lol:

Jordan 06-06-2018 12:46 PM

Anyone from here going on Jericho's cruise?

slik 06-06-2018 01:33 PM

Muhammad Hassan would like a final run:

http://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/muh...san-interview/

Ezra 06-06-2018 01:44 PM

I got a phone call from muhammad hassan yesterday according to my caller id. Thats probably what he wanted to tell me.

Evil Vito 06-06-2018 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5130912)
Anyone from here going on Jericho's cruise?

I thought about it. I turn 30 right after so it would've been a gift to myself. But it's expensive as shit for a pretty short cruise, plus I'd have to drop extra for a flight to Florida to get to the cruise. So nah.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-06-2018 02:42 PM

I would just end up super disappointed I didn't become best friends with Chris Jericho.

Cool King 06-06-2018 03:34 PM

https://shop.wwe.com/on/demandware.s...rge/QR1001.jpg

Emperor Smeat 06-06-2018 04:10 PM

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Outsider 06-06-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5130960)
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God dammit.

"Where's" not "Wheres".

WAY TO RUIN YOUR OWN SIGN.

Emperor Smeat 06-06-2018 04:38 PM

Supposedly Bruce Prichard recently pissed off the WWE to the point they delayed this week's episode of his Network podcast show for editing reasons.

This week is supposed to be about WWE's version of ECW and WWE didn't like some of the stuff mentioned in the show since it cast their handling of the brand in a bad light.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrestleInc
"Hey, what's up guys? No show today. WWE wanted to edit some stuff, we've got creative differences, it ain't airing," Thompson said. "I wanted you to hear it directly from us. It's not because we didn't tape the show, we did, we're just not happy with the final product. This is the first time this has happened and rather than just throw something up to have something up, it's going to air on Friday.

"We're not re-shooting it, Bruce and I are done, we're happy with it but we're not going to change the narrative. I don't want to white-wash everything that ECW was. So I'm fighting for it. We're going to get you the best possible product to you this Friday on the WWE Network, with a delay, and our most controversial 'Something Else to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard' ever. Tune in Friday."


Bad News Gertner 06-06-2018 04:47 PM

Lol half of it is lies since it's coming from Bruce anyways

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-06-2018 05:08 PM

Half is pretty generous. I think we can go for 80-90% of it being lies.

#1-norm-fan 06-06-2018 05:14 PM

Bruce also sucks WWE's collective dick every chance he gets though. How bad does something have to be to where he can't even bullshit his way to making WWE sound good?

Bad News Gertner 06-06-2018 05:53 PM

I don't get listening to a wrestling history podcast when it's just history made up by Bruce to fit his narrative?

#1-norm-fan 06-06-2018 06:02 PM

I still listen because Conrad calls him out on his bullshit a lot which evens things out a little. Though even that was toned down on the WWE Network episode I watched. Seemed like Conrad was sure to make some "sneaky" references to Bruce kissing HHH's ass just to show they weren't selling out or anything but for the most part, he was much less confrontational.

Bad News Gertner 06-06-2018 06:31 PM

From what I've heard from others, Conrad doesn't call him out as much as he used to, due to Conrad being too busy to do his own research anymore

DAMN iNATOR 06-06-2018 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ezra (Post 5130931)
I got a phone call from muhammad hassan yesterday according to my caller id. Thats probably what he wanted to tell me.

Or maybe he just wanted to say "Happy Ramadan and Allahu Akbar!".

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-06-2018 08:57 PM

Conrad pretty much just implies Bruce is lying about everything.

Fignuts 06-06-2018 09:51 PM

Recently listened to an edge and christian podcast with a former writer who went on to co create metalocalypse and it was hilarious. Best podcast out there right now.

#1-norm-fan 06-07-2018 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5131025)
Conrad pretty much just implies Bruce is lying about everything.

A safe bet

Disturbed316 06-07-2018 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5131030)
Recently listened to an edge and christian podcast with a former writer who went on to co create metalocalypse and it was hilarious. Best podcast out there right now.

My favourie wrestling podcast, so funny.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-07-2018 08:04 AM

83 weeks is literally Conrad going "The Observer/wrestler said this happened" and Bischoff going "I don't remember but that sounds like it could have happened/I don't remember but a lot of wrestlers make up stories to babyface themselves"

He's actually worse than Bruce that he doesn't even 100% commit to his lies. Just says he doesn't remember. I still enjoy parts of it because I like how he talks about his business methods (particularly when the company was turning a profit) but Conrad really has a hard time getting these guys to even slightly tell the truth.

Bad News Gertner 06-07-2018 08:21 AM

It's so fucking bad.

Bad News Gertner 06-07-2018 08:23 AM

I have a 4 hour car ride tomorrow with a guy who thinks Bruce and Conrad are the greatest thing ever. He also listens to Russo's podcast. 4 hours with a reddit WWE fan. If you hear of a body getting thrown out of a car on the 401 I may need a place to hide.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-07-2018 08:37 AM

Honestly, I respect Conrad for the marketing efforts of Something to Wrestle With. The show is what it is. Podcasting is actually what wrestling used to be...guys committing 100% to their characters and working the marks (WWE Reddit fans) and building a fan base. That's why all these old timers are doing so well with it.

I digress... my respect for Conrad is he was able to take someone as irrelevant as Bruce Prichard and rejuvenate his career into something better than when he was in the business. And honestly, it's all Conrad--whether he's a money mark or not (which he probably is lol). A lot of the marketing/advertising can come off as annoying, but the die hards fucking love it.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-07-2018 08:38 AM

Think about it. As irritating "Make it a shirt" shit is, all the shirts fucking sell! Like... come on!

Gerard 06-07-2018 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5131110)
83 weeks is literally Conrad going "The Observer/wrestler said this happened" and Bischoff going "I don't remember but that sounds like it could have happened/I don't remember but a lot of wrestlers make up stories to babyface themselves"

He's actually worse than Bruce that he doesn't even 100% commit to his lies. Just says he doesn't remember. I still enjoy parts of it because I like how he talks about his business methods (particularly when the company was turning a profit) but Conrad really has a hard time getting these guys to even slightly tell the truth.

Bischoff is great at using the saying "i don't recall". He even denied the situation that wcw thought Nash and Hall were jumping back to wwe when Jr was talking about bringing them back and the fake diesel and razor appeared. Supposedly wcw paid nash and hall more so they would stay thinking this was legit, and weren't too happy when the 2 fakes appeared.

You would think he would recall this but apparently doesn't, near sure i've heard him flip flop saying it didn't happen in one interview and "i don't recall" in another.

There's one other interview out there where he says his first interaction with Bret was at an airport waiting to tell him the news that Owen had died, thats ignoring the fact he signed with wcw much earlier than that and he had been with them several months, if not close to a year before that.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-07-2018 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5131116)
Bischoff is great at using the saying "i don't recall". He even denied the situation that wcw thought Nash and Hall were jumping back to wwe when Jr was talking about bringing them back and the fake diesel and razor appeared. Supposedly wcw paid nash and hall more so they would stay thinking this was legit, and weren't too happy when the 2 fakes appeared.

And it's clearly true because Nash and Hall have both told the story 80,000 times as well as pretty much everyone else associated w/ the story including the Observer. But Bischoff is like "It MAYBE happened, but I doubt it." it's like nah bro, it obviously happened.

slik 06-07-2018 08:45 AM

Is Conrad that fat dude who likes toys or is that someone else?

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-07-2018 08:48 AM

He's certainly a fat guy. Could see him liking toys too lol

He got his start w/ Ric Flair's podcast. Moved onto doing Bruce's podcast (which has found resounding success despite its abundant lack of credibility) and Tony Schiavone's podcast (I like Tony, seems like a sweet guy).

Now he's doing a podcast with Eric Bischoff which lacks even more cred than Bruce's, and will surely be more successful somehow.

Evil Vito 06-07-2018 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5131117)
And it's clearly true because Nash and Hall have both told the story 80,000 times as well as pretty much everyone else associated w/ the story including the Observer. But Bischoff is like "It MAYBE happened, but I doubt it." it's like nah bro, it obviously happened.

lol they even told that story on WWE Network

Gerard 06-07-2018 08:49 AM

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This is the one where he says his first interaction with bret was telling him owen had died.

Danny Electric 06-07-2018 09:24 AM

Looking forward to Sanity debuting on Smackdown in 2021.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-07-2018 09:34 AM

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slik 06-07-2018 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5131122)
He's certainly a fat guy. Could see him liking toys too lol

He got his start w/ Ric Flair's podcast. Moved onto doing Bruce's podcast (which has found resounding success despite its abundant lack of credibility) and Tony Schiavone's podcast (I like Tony, seems like a sweet guy).

Now he's doing a podcast with Eric Bischoff which lacks even more cred than Bruce's, and will surely be more successful somehow.


Whose the one that got heat on social media for calling Nia Jax "Battle Cow"?

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-07-2018 09:36 AM

#SelfPlug

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-07-2018 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5131144)
Whose the one that got heat on social media for calling Nia Jax "Battle Cow"?

lol no clue. Likely not Conrad though, cuz he plays nice.

#1-norm-fan 06-07-2018 09:41 AM

No. That guy was some obnoxious Youtuber with a wrestling toy show or something. Conrad is quite likeable.

Heisenberg 06-07-2018 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5131030)
Recently listened to an edge and christian podcast with a former writer who went on to co create metalocalypse and it was hilarious. Best podcast out there right now.



I never knew Blacha wrote for WWE, that explains why him and Will Sasso acted the way they did on Ten Minute Podcast

Innovator 06-07-2018 10:23 AM

Sure thing brother, ok dude

Heisenberg 06-07-2018 10:25 AM

he is Shitty Hulk, brother

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-07-2018 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5131124)
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This is the one where he says his first interaction with bret was telling him owen had died.

Yikes what a moron. On his podcast he said his first interaction with Bret was in 1996 when they met in LA for beers. So, he signed Bret to a contract and then never spoke with him (1997) and then never talked to him for two years (1999.)

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-07-2018 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Electric (Post 5131135)
Looking forward to Sanity debuting on Smackdown in 2021.

and where are the AOP?

Cool King 06-07-2018 02:44 PM

Waiting for The B-Team to fully turn face when they win the Tag Team Championships.

Evil Vito 06-07-2018 03:35 PM

Yeah, I expect they will win them. Wyatt's gonna turn on Matt so we can get yet another boring match between them at the next PPV.

Innovator 06-07-2018 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5131223)
Yeah, I expect they will win them. Wyatt's gonna turn on Matt so we can get yet another boring match between them at the next PPV.

The B Team will infiltrate the Hardy compound, leading to Bo falling into the lake and being possessed by Sister Abigail

James Steele 06-07-2018 06:29 PM

I enjoy Conrad’s podcasts, but Cornette’s are the best.

Emperor Smeat 06-07-2018 06:49 PM

Seems Jeff Hardy might be dealing with a similar health issue that Jason Jordan recently had.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrestlingnews.co
Jeff Hardy is currently not listed on the card for the Money In The Bank pay-per-view and it looks like an injury could be the reason.

Hardy, who has had well-documented neck issues over the years, is said to have a pinched nerve. PWTorch reported that the pinched nerve has caused numbness in his fingers.

Hardy wrestled at the live events over the weekend and he wrestled in a dark match after 205 Live on Tuesday night. The match was kept short and he teamed with Daniel Bryan and faced Big Cass and The Miz.

Fans that have seen Hardy in recent weeks have remarked that he seems to be in pain during his matches. This sounds similar to what Jason Jordan was dealing with back in January. He tried to work through it but ended up getting surgery.


Emperor Smeat 06-07-2018 07:40 PM

:lol: at Reigns getting booed at WWE's event for the Television Academy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cagesideseats.com
Can The Big Dog ever get a break? Last night the WWE held it’s first ever For Your Consideration event for the Television Academy in Los Angeles. With hopes of getting Emmy nominations for the Raw 25th Anniversary special, the Mixed Match Challenge, and WWE 24: Empowered on the Women’s Revolution, WWE held a presentation in front of 600 TV Academy and television industry executives last night (Jun. 6).

Of course Roman Reigns was part of one of the panels WWE trotted out and of course he got booed?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yes, Roman Reigns even got booed at the Televison Academy. <a href="https://t.co/TxS4GnPNtm">pic.twitter.com/TxS4GnPNtm</a></p>&mdash; Pro Wrestling Sheet (@WrestlingSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/WrestlingSheet/status/1004552952856473600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 7, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Ol Dirty Dastard 06-07-2018 07:49 PM

He's definitely the guy :roll:

screech 06-07-2018 08:31 PM

Watching this week's RAW. This is one of the most awkward episodes I've ever seen.

#1-norm-fan 06-07-2018 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 5131265)
I enjoy Conrad’s podcasts, but Cornette’s are the best.

A Conrad/Cornette podcast in the same "one subject" style of Conrad's other podcasts could be amazing. Though I wonder if their "no bullshit" personalities would cancel each other out. Conrad is at his best when he's calling out Prichard for being a WWE kiss ass or calling out Schiavonne for not remembering shit/not being entertaining enough. I don't know where he and Cornette would find something to clash on.

slik 06-07-2018 09:24 PM

Even though I've complained about WWE RAW a lot the last few weeks there is one fantastic decision they made I overlooked: We haven't seen No Way Jose in a long time!

slik 06-07-2018 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screech (Post 5131296)
Watching this week's RAW. This is one of the most awkward episodes I've ever seen.

If I hadn't watched I probably would have thought the internet was exaggerating but nope, it was weird and just 'not good'.

Juan 06-07-2018 10:18 PM

What Happened When is the best Conrad podcast. I was never into NWA/JCP but I still listen to the shows because Tony is great

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-07-2018 10:25 PM

I'm glad they moved his show. Too many podcasts dropping on Mondays.

He's funny and he doesn't lie. Can't say the same for Prichard and EasyE.

#1-norm-fan 06-07-2018 10:37 PM

Tony Schiavone making dick jokes never gets old.

Emperor Smeat 06-08-2018 03:01 AM

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Bad News Gertner 06-08-2018 07:19 AM

Lol the Hart vs Bischoff pissing match is my favourite thing on the internet.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-08-2018 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5131334)
What Happened When is the best Conrad podcast. I was never into NWA/JCP but I still listen to the shows because Tony is great

Yeah Tony comes across as a genuine guy and someone I would have a beer with. Even when he discussed Bobby Heenan’s beef with him which was super heated, he took responsibility and owned it.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-08-2018 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5131354)
Lol the Hart vs Bischoff pissing match is my favourite thing on the internet.

Bret may over state his ability (particularly drawing potential) but he at least tells the damned truth. You always praise Meltzer for “getting it right” and he almost 100 p backs Bret on everything.

Bad News Gertner 06-08-2018 08:59 AM

Lol it's two guys who are completely full of themselves, lobbing insults that are so beyond ridiculous

Innovator 06-08-2018 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5131354)
Lol the Hart vs Bischoff pissing match is my favourite thing on the internet.

It's as good as Dr. Amann filing a defamation suit for emotional distress because his cranberry sauce tasted yucky because of mean tweets from Mike Litoris

owenbrown 06-08-2018 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5131334)
What Happened When is the best Conrad podcast. I was never into NWA/JCP but I still listen to the shows because Tony is great

This. I am constantly going through the Playlist on YouTube.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-08-2018 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5131369)
Lol it's two guys who are completely full of themselves, lobbing insults that are so beyond ridiculous

LOL Okay you got me there.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-08-2018 03:36 PM

Jim Cornette insulted Dana Loesch again and the right wing brigade is losing their shit. Tremendous.

Cool King 06-08-2018 03:47 PM

WWEShop are selling yet another Roman Reigns T-Shirt, just a week after putting another Roman Reigns T-Shirt up for sale.

https://shop.wwe.com/on/demandware.s...rge/AB0083.jpg

I can only assume that we'll see another Roman Reigns T-Shirt within a week, or a week and a half at the most.

slik 06-08-2018 04:00 PM

THE BIG DOG

Heisenberg 06-08-2018 04:03 PM

Welcome to Monday Night RAW where the fans will cheer the bad guys and boo the heroes like THE BIG DOG ROMAN REIGNS OOOOOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

Vastardikai 06-08-2018 05:38 PM

If the heels didn't have a point with their protestations, maybe they wouldn't be cheered.

Mr. Nerfect 06-08-2018 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5130824)
There are better WWE 24 specials, but that one is about women so it does have a slightly better chance. (But realistically no chance)

But the thing is this isn't a feminist-friendly company. They do business deals with Saudi Arabia, don't pay their women as much as the men in a company where they claim they are "equal" (I'm not saying that as performers they are, that's just company narrative) and you still get the sense the company keeps some around because they are hot. Their feuds are still based on hair-pulling and mean nicknames. High school drama, because girls love #HighSchoolDrama.

Mr. Nerfect 06-08-2018 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5130877)
Shocking that they aren't showing any Smackdown episodes to really show off Kevin Dunn's cutting edge work on Windows Movie Maker. Those Emmy voters would eat that shit up.

You're basically on fire on this subject, but this is just a general :lol: of support.

Mr. Nerfect 06-08-2018 08:27 PM

Conrad Thompson has done well for himself. I don't have any ill will towards him, but his podcasts just have this ring of "let's suck up under the guise of telling it like it is." I can't believe how successful Bruce's bullshit is. Tony is a funny guy, but there was so much "I don't remember," "WWF was always better -- I should have stayed there." I refuse to listen to Bischoff's. I like Bischoff as a performer, but as a person he is so full of shit. The company fell apart in such a public way that I don't think there is much left to say. Bischoff sold the company's soul to the devil in order to buy a few huge years with Hogan and the nWo, and then things turned ironic.

Russo can just fuck off forever, thanks. I get so infuriated when I hear people actually defend him like it's not a myth that has been completely busted. The worst is that you can't reason with people like that, because it's such an unreasonable position. But there are still people who credit Russo as the mastermind behind the WWF's success, and some even go as far as to credit him for 2000 as well, because he "planned ahead." I also get annoyed by the "he seems like a nice guy" narrative when he has tried to fuck over everybody he has worked with to get himself into position. Which would just be office politics if he didn't deny being that sort of person. He's also a misogynistic, homophobic piece of shit. Grrr, he angers me so fucking much! I seriously want to start a "Fuck Vince Russo" thread and just post in it every couple of weeks about what a piece of shit this guy is. The dude actually wrote a book that included phrases about how hard the business has been on his family, and it's still his fucking chosen profession as he sooks about how wrestling hurts his kids.

I've been listening to Cornette's podcasts more frequently recently. I don't disagree with Cornette on much politically, but I prefer it when he talks about wrestling, because that's why I listen. But fuck me if his promo on the right-wing wasn't fucking hilarious this week. The guy's magic on the mic. One of those comedy news shows should hire him to do a segment where he chimes in like those 1997 Raw ones but for politics.

Cornette occasionally focuses on one subject with his "deep dives." I like Brian's questions too. But I would like to see Cornette do a "go through the Observer" look at the WWF during the Attitude era or something like that. I'd like to hear more specifics on how Russo was full of shit, or how things were supposed to go. The WWE narrative is kind of that they got to 1998 and then they were great and everything was sunshine and roses, and there isn't really anyone to give an honest take on the creative process. JR is someone that could shine a lot of light too.

I'd actually like to hear a Cornette/Shiavone podcast, with Shiavone playing more of the apologist and Cornette slapping down the silly.

Emperor Smeat 06-08-2018 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5131525)
But the thing is this isn't a feminist-friendly company. They do business deals with Saudi Arabia, don't pay their women as much as the men in a company where they claim they are "equal" (I'm not saying that as performers they are, that's just company narrative) and you still get the sense the company keeps some around because they are hot. Their feuds are still based on hair-pulling and mean nicknames. High school drama, because girls love #HighSchoolDrama.

Assuming WWE still hasn't done it, the worst might be promising their women's division an extra paycheck because of the Saudi mess and not actually giving it to them so far.

Mr. Nerfect 06-08-2018 08:29 PM

The SCG Radio Timelines are really good for the Attitude era stuff, to be honest. I recently went back and listened to them all again. It's crazy how obvious certain things are when you go back and really look at the period. But it'd be cool to get one with an insider.

Ben Rodrigues 06-08-2018 09:30 PM

Dana White just confirmed Brock's WWE deal is until August.

Mr. Nerfect 06-08-2018 09:37 PM

Come on, Harold Meij. Call Heyman. Get Brock. Let him do UFC. Get Bryan. Sell TV to Paramount for cheap. You can do this.

Mr. Nerfect 06-08-2018 09:42 PM

Call The Rock. Call Conor McGregor if you need to. Wrestling needs something.

Emperor Smeat 06-08-2018 11:56 PM

NJPW wouldn't be able to afford McGregor even if they wanted to considering even WWE balked at the idea of having him show up for an appearance due to his high price.

Think he made more money in his fight against Mayweather than NJPW did as a company last year.

Anybody Thrilla 06-09-2018 12:48 AM

Buddy Murphy is really good. Mustafa Ali too.

Anybody Thrilla 06-09-2018 01:01 AM

Nikki Cross. Also great.

Big fan of Shayna Bazler too if she talks less.

Lock Jaw 06-09-2018 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5131525)
But the thing is this isn't a feminist-friendly company. They do business deals with Saudi Arabia, don't pay their women as much as the men in a company where they claim they are "equal" (I'm not saying that as performers they are, that's just company narrative) and you still get the sense the company keeps some around because they are hot. Their feuds are still based on hair-pulling and mean nicknames. High school drama, because girls love #HighSchoolDrama.

DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE HISTORIC FIRST EVER WOMEN'S ROYAL RUMBLE?!?!?!?!

OR THE HISTORIC FIRST EVER WOMEN'S GAUNTLET MATCH?!?!?!?!

Anybody Thrilla 06-09-2018 01:40 AM

Lacey Evans. Kairi Sane. Bianca Belair. Lots of great talent in NXT right now.

Evil Vito 06-09-2018 05:01 AM

I haven't listened to Art of Wrestling in several years, but felt the need to tune in this week. Colt recorded a synopsis after each day of the trial and he released them all today now that the trial is over. Pretty interesting insight to what going through a trial is like.

screech 06-09-2018 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 5131574)
Nikki Cross. Also great.

Big fan of Shayna Bazler too if she talks less.

I also think Shayna should talk less.

screech 06-09-2018 06:24 AM

I'm enjoying TM61 right now. Didn't expect them to turn, but they're good at being dicks

Ben Rodrigues 06-09-2018 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5131547)
Call The Rock. Call Conor McGregor if you need to. Wrestling needs something.

To be honest, I'd rather not see outside stars come anywhere near wrestling. Ronda Rousey has seemingly already lost everything that made her special. She's not an actor and cannot do wrestling skits. She should have just been portrayed as a no-nonsense killer who breaks arms. Conor McGregor would come in as a big deal and then probably be paired up with Hornswoggle within a few months to appeal to kids.

Sixx 06-09-2018 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ben Rodrigues (Post 5131664)
To be honest, I'd rather not see outside stars come anywhere near wrestling. Ronda Rousey has seemingly already lost everything that made her special. She's not an actor and cannot do wrestling skits. She should have just been portrayed as a no-nonsense killer who breaks arms. Conor McGregor would come in as a big deal and then probably be paired up with Hornswoggle within a few months to appeal to kids.

I want to see that.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-09-2018 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5131527)
Conrad Thompson has done well for himself. I don't have any ill will towards him, but his podcasts just have this ring of "let's suck up under the guise of telling it like it is." I can't believe how successful Bruce's bullshit is. Tony is a funny guy, but there was so much "I don't remember," "WWF was always better -- I should have stayed there." I refuse to listen to Bischoff's. I like Bischoff as a performer, but as a person he is so full of shit. The company fell apart in such a public way that I don't think there is much left to say. Bischoff sold the company's soul to the devil in order to buy a few huge years with Hogan and the nWo, and then things turned ironic.

Yeah, given the nature of his brand and his reliance on "name" personalities, Conrad has to play nice. I also think he's just a giant WWF fan and doesn't want to piss people off. People who take those podcasts as gospel are fucking marks to the highest degree.

#1-norm-fan 06-09-2018 10:00 AM

Where is this idea of Conrad being a WWF fan who "sucks up" and doesn't want to piss people off coming from? I constantly hear him flat out talking shit about WWE. Whether its terrible booking decisions or calling out Vince on being kind of a piece of shit.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-09-2018 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5131674)
Where is this idea of Conrad being a WWF fan who "sucks up" and doesn't want to piss people off coming from? I constantly hear him flat out talking shit about WWE. Whether its terrible booking decisions or calling out Vince on being kind of a piece of shit.

It's because he balances it out with reverence and praise. Though I'll concede that it's probably because he actually just DOES like Vince and the WWE. But compared to Meltzer he doesn't go SUPER hard in on the criticism I guess.

#1-norm-fan 06-09-2018 01:20 PM

I mean, he definitely does balance it out but we all would in the same situation. WWE hasn't always been utter shit and Vince isn't an immoral piece of shit 100% of the time. He seems to call out the bad shit and praise the good. He's definitely not afraid to piss people off. The Pillman episode is a good example. He calls out Vince for how he handled the announcement of his death and the Melanie interview without hesitation and won't let Bruce brush it off.

Of course, the Network show he definitely seems to toe the line more. Which is why I forgot about that show after episode one.

Ultra Mantis 06-09-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5131558)
NJPW wouldn't be able to afford McGregor even if they wanted to considering even WWE balked at the idea of having him show up for an appearance due to his high price.

Think he made more money in his fight against Mayweather than NJPW did as a company last year.

McGregor would be a baffling decision because nobody in Japan would know who the fuck he was, he's not a pro wrestler so they would also be taking a huge gamble on him not being the shits.

Brock also would be dumb, especially since he totally fucked them over last time he was there and only cares about the money. They're definitely not going to bankroll having him come in just to steamroll all their top stars like Vince has.

Jordan 06-09-2018 02:19 PM

It's not that big of a deal but it does annoy me when people think that NJPW needs American "superstars" to get over in the USA. Be logical... McGregor? Lesnar? to NJPW are you living in this reality?

Fignuts 06-09-2018 05:20 PM

Yeah, I don't want Brock anywhere near NJPW.

Fignuts 06-09-2018 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5131708)
It's not that big of a deal but it does annoy me when people think that NJPW needs American "superstars" to get over in the USA. Be logical... McGregor? Lesnar? to NJPW are you living in this reality?

It will only do so much. Unless they drastically change their product NJPW will always be a niche product. There's nothing wrong with trying to grow that niche, but they should stick to that. Every time they've made major decisions for marketing and profit reasons its bit them in the ass hard.


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