Fair enough, but don't criticize the actor for it.

I didn't say he couldn't act. I was criticizing the casting decision to cast a character like Beast as a teenager. The Disney thing was more of a joke about his age.

I can't believe James McEvoy is Professor X...

I will give them Michael Fassebender as Magneto. He was incredible in Inglorious Basterds.
I'm just not very high on the idea of going as young as possible. I feel like they're really going for a Twilight thing here, which they'll probably laugh all the way to bank with, but shit on the property in the process.

Same with Spider-Man, if reports are correct

Ya know the X-Men were originally a group of teenage superheroes. They met the original Teen Titans once as their concept were so similar.

They weren't originally a group of teenagers. They had history with Professor X that dated back to their youths (in some cases), but that was always the backstory and not the main incarnation of the X-Men.
If that backstory was exploited as the main focus of a story later on, then so be it, but it's not their original form.
That's like saying Darth Vader was originally a podracing slave.

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I'm fairly certain they were teens, or at least young adults, even in their debut books.

Sparkly Wolverine

I was always under the impression that they were adults in the Jack Kirby era. Prof. X and Magneto were certainly their normal age

Originally yeah, they were teens and whatnot. It's been established later on tho that some members of the X-Men (not just the original 5, mind you) have encountered Xavier in prepubescence. Storm and Jean Grey immediately come to mind.

I knew they had long histories with Xavier. I didn't know they were so young in the early books. Were they? That changed quickly.
I'm more familiar with the 80s and 90s X-Men.

Still, I don't think the studio's intentions are so noble as to be true to the first issues.

The boy who's playing Beast is famous in the UK, he was in a series called Skins which is massive over here and he was the boy in About A Boy with Hugh Grant.

But more recently got rave reviews for his perormance in A Single Man opposite Colin Firth and was in Clash of the Titans.

I'm pretty sure Iceman was only 16 when X-Men first debuted. The other X-Men were probably between 19-23 ish...

Not that I give a shit about his age, all this rebooting shit pisses me off, especially if this new continuity is being born from the Wolverine film, which is a prequel to the old continuity.

If they find a way to link First Class to the X-Men Trilogy then at least it'll make some sense.

I actually liked the various X-Men: First Class comic books.

Yea I eat my words about them not being originally younger. I honestly never gathered that. It didn't look it.
I still don't like the direction though. I feel like the intention here is not to be true to the origin comics but rather to bring youth to the franchise and take it in that direction.
Either way I'm just feeling the 80s-90s style of X-Men, which I feel is the version of X-Men that most people have wanted to see and has gotten them to where they are now.

I can deal with them starting over too. I think they screwed the franchise up enough after 2 that going the Batman route is acceptable at some point. I just don't think this is the place or way to start it.
I'd rather see them enter the story in the adult years, and just approach the material differently.

Nope. The original 5 all graduated high school under Xavier. They were all teens, with Iceman being the youngest.

Have a feeling Bacon will be Nathaniel Essex in First Class. I have absolutely nothing to back this up but my gut.

Did sinister ever appear in First Class? I figured he could be a Lucifer flashback.

Continuity? Go rent X-Men 1 through 3 as well as Origins and see what Fox thinks of continuity.

Is anyone going to say anything about the whole Ed Norton/Avengers debacle going on right now?

Um it's gay?

Sounds like Marvel's trying to save a few bucks and slammed Ed Norton, probably to try to defuse the fan complaints.

I'm surprisingly indifferent about it all. Sure I expected them to strive for continuity (kinda the point of their current agenda) but I guess it helped that I half expected them to downplay Banner for Hulk altogether anyway.

I think a recast is pretty lame though. The whole attraction here is that they built towards this super-movie with individual installments, so to cast a new actor in the role for the first time takes the whole thing down a notch.
It's not disasterous, since it's only The Hulk, but it still sort of feels like they'd be better just leaving him out of it altogether, unless they only show him in Hulk form.

I rather they just use Hulk form if Norton couldn't be cast. Norton not making it makes recasting any of the other heroes possible (no matter how small). This is something Marvel should fight to work out. As you said is severely misses the point they were getting at.

A recast would make it the third guy to play Banner in as many films. Shitty.

the rumor is that joaquin phoenix might be bruce banner

Meh. I love Norton and all, but don't have a problem with recasting Bruce Banner.

so far the heros in avengers will be:

iron man
captain america
hulk
thor
war machine
nick fury
black widow

missing anyone?

If you're going by founding members, Ant-Man and Wasp. Gotta wonder if Widow will be an actual member or just one of the Shield liaisons but ends up getting in on the action.

Hawk Eye.

from what we have seen and what theyre planning in terms of movies to be made is what i was referring to

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Not really digging Loki's look.

Well, maybe if his clothes were a little more golden and he had his little horn hat...

It's just not easy to turn his original look into something not retarded irl.

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I think it's the alien look that's a big turn off to people. I know that has roots in some versions of Thor, but I think the majority of people wanted/expected the ancient looking Norse epic.
I suppose this was a decision based on what would translate best into the universe they're establishing for Iron Man and Captain America.

If the movie works, it works. I am definitely not high on any of the costumes or sets I've seen though.
Conversely, I'm loving everything I see from Captain America.

I am a bit sad they did not take the old Norse approach..but I am not upset with that semi-steampunk look they have going. Could be interesting.

Doing the ancient norse look would have been taking the easy way out though. As someone who has read all the thor books from his first appearance on, I'm very happy they are showing respect to Kirby's work by going this route with the visuals. Tells me the people working on the movie are legit fans, and gives me hope that the movie will be good.