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This is an even better gif than

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Maybe.

My contribution:

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Could've had a V8

Also it appears that some Tea Party jackass is complaining about WWE making them look like idiots to the world with the Zeb Colter character, and that Vince and Linda are even worse because they're republicans "at the top". Pretty sure they already did that themselves by joining the Tea Party in the first place, but meh.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/217649574...-the-tea-party

Some Fox TV people ramble incoherently and tangentially about Swagger (more Zeb really) somewhat.

Funny thing is Swagger's new character is basically similar to Del Rio's when he was a heel but nobody complained.

Del Rio also hated the idea of handouts, illegal immigrants, and people who didn't speak English. Only thing he didn't have was the snake flag or "propaganda" videos besides the border one.

Sunday night, I thought Swagger's new theme was a downgrade.

Now, I am humming it constantly and afraid for my own well-being.

Unfortunately I see this getting ended now because Fox News decided to cry about it. Vince will pussy out and probably either pull the character all together or tone it down completely.

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Wrestlemania just won't be the same without Taker if he doesn't have a match.

It's happened before, and it'll happen again in the future. They can build a solid enough card without him.

But I see your point.

It'd be the first time in 13 years he's missed Mania, and only the second since The Streak started.

Third. He didn't wrestle at WMX

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Right! For some reason I was thinking "he's beat 21 guys, so he's been at 21 Manias," forgetting that the streak is at 20 and one of those matches was a tag/handicap match.

Also, I just assumed you was referring to WM 2000 as the other he had missed.

And mine:
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That's a huge bitch.

WWE's already starting to apologize or at least inform people that anything involving Zeb isn't actually meant to be taken seriously. It also appears the statement was issued mainly due to the negative reaction Fox News had with the storyline than earlier from people being upset on Twitter or on blogs.

Lick the underside of my balls and then tickle my taint, #1-wwf-fan.

Sabu The pimp

When did I say people wouldn't bitch? And it definitely had nothing to do with it being WrestleMania season.

Not like it effects shit with the match.

Jack Swagger being an idiot however...

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Stop ogling her, you MONSTER!

I'm just admiring her backslide.

This show was pretty fun. The opening round match with Future Shock against The Dojo Bros was hilarious. Adam Cole spits in Roderick Strong's face and shouts "SUCK MY DICK!" and the crowd starts chanting "Suck his dick! Suck his dick!" So then Roddy gets on one knee and Adam Cole sticks his pelvis out for him and then Roddy chops him in the dick.

A. What were they even attempting?
B. Forehead bumps are never recommended
C. The wrong guy is wearing a shirt, here.

part III

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My heart broke listening to that, I feel so bad for Scott Hall being unable to conquer his demons. I hope DDP and Jake can help him.

From the dirtsheets:
Was pretty easy to keep them both separated considering a good chunk of Lesnar's dates were used up too quickly last year. Think his next deal has a few more extra dates on it to prevent that from happening again.

So this means they are actually planning to have a WWE 14 game this year. Sort of thought they'd take a year off to try to make a really good first impression.

It's so weird having a situation where the champion going into WrestleMania is so guaranteed to lose the title. Like... there's been situations where you can be pretty sure who's gonna walk out champion but to have a situation like this... it's just stranger and stranger the more I think about it.

Cena needs a new heel? I know the answer, but why not have Cena be the heel for Ryback? It may revitalize a character that's stale as shit.

Best case scenario - Ryback goes over and revitalizes his push that's been somewhat wobbling in momentum recently.

Worst case scenario - Ryback follows Cena's previous feud with Ziggler in that he gets 1-2 wins but doesn't benefit at all from the feud and/or ends up worse than before.

They sort of backed Ryback into a corner when he got his main event push since they didn't want to make him champion nor give him any clean losses against Punk. It then carried over to the Shield feud where the WWE didn't want the Shield to completely dominate him but at the same time refuse to let Ryback get any real revenge on his own (unlike Cena and Orton who killed off both versions of the Nexus on their own)

Ryback is the latest example of why WWE is completely incapable of building new stars.

Yeah damn, being the last one in the rumble before Cena eliminated him is exactly how you fuck up your new stars!!!!! shut up.

Am I the only one who really loves WM 24?

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WWE have kind of backed themselves into a corner by putting Ryback up against The Shield as neither can "afford to lose".

As I see it, they've made the right decisions so far. The Shield have won through cohesiveness and I don't feel Ryback is any less over due to these losses (see the reaction he got whilst stood on the apron at Elimination Chamber).

I'd hate for Ryback to decimate The Shield at Mania as I feel that would curtail their momentum.

I'd also not be keen on a Ryback turn just yet.

For real, why can't Ryback just stay face and feud with Cena for a while?

Exactly :y:

Cena is incapable of getting a majority babyface reaction against any likeable wrestler.

They cheered for CM Punk AFTER he made those comments to Lawler in the triple threat match at Survivor Series. I don't know know who Cena could get a lot of cheers against at this point.

I think at this point if he had a match against a referee it would go Let's go Cena...Let's go Ref!

It'd be funny if he retains at mania only to lose it on raw the next night.

Or just takes it to the movies.

Nigel McGuinness would've hated the Drake Younger-Sami Callihan match at this show, like 20 unprotected chair shots to the head.

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He's jobbed in 5 straight PPVs, you tool.

Why do I feel like there's a small chance they might actually do something like that just for the swerve factor.

C'mon. Two of those were 6 man tags and one was the royal rumble, and that's the last three. Wouldn't exactly say he's being buried.

I didn't say he's being buried. I'm saying they've wasted the momentum he had going 5 months ago by not having him win a single match on PPV and basically using him while they turn their attention to putting over The Shield.

But you can't say he's looked weak at all. Punk needed to go over him, he's the champ and 'the best in the world'. It was a good first feud for him though, also showed he can be beaten (even if he was screwed both times). He shouldn't be main eventing WM, so I had no problem with him not winning the rumble, but he was final 2 FFS. And he looked strong against the shield. I just don't see how you think they're not booking him well. Not everyone can win all the time, his momentum is still there, if anything his frustration over not winning is keeping it all rolling, and when he snaps he's going to go nuts. The crowd are still begins him, and they're building this story nicely.

Fuck out of here. He got pinned in a 6 man tag at EC, big deal.
He was the last one eliminated by John Cena at the Royal Rumble, Oh noooo.
He lost a 6 Man Tag TLC where he was the only member of his team even moving when The Shield (who are the most dominant trio we've seen in a while) got the pin.
I don't remember how he lost at Survivor Series, but it was a triple threat involving the two biggest names in the WWE, what'd you expect?
And at Hell In A Cell he was fast counted and low blowed by the ref. Real big string of jobs right there.

The Shield debuted at Survivor Series, putting Ryback through a table/allowing Punk to pin Cena.

That right there is fan's biggest gripe with WWE; the constant "levelling out" of wins/losses.

You say all of this as if the current booking team is very competent and are capable of building a star like Goldberg at will as long as he just does his job...

That's true.

There's a big difference though between "can't win all the time" and using everyone to put everyone else over though. That kinda leaves everyone in a muddled mess and creates the mad scramble to build stars that WWE has been in lately because everyone's even.

You need guys who don't lose on a monthly basis to the point that when they lose, you say "HOLY FUCKING SHIT..."

How did that work with Cena?

Vince knew how to make a star. If he was as capable of making one as you seem to think, John Cena could suffer a career ending injury tomorrow and the company would flow along just fine. Because they'd have built a star over the years that can fill in instantly and not leave them begging for the part-time guys to come work some more dates to fill in for the lack of star power.

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What? Are you saying Cena never lost? Because despite the need to cling onto the "OMG CENA NEVER LOSES" gripe... he did. The only people bitching and trying to complain that he never lost were the ones who just aren't a fan of the character.

There is. Not having two main eventers constantly face off every week on Raw... compelling storylines that don't revolve around random tag matches to close out every show...

There are definitely ways to keep your top guys from being put in situations where one has to lose weekly.

And yes, a squash match or two scattered in there isn't the worst thing in the world.

I have never had that gripe, feel free to do a forum search. But he won, a lot. And people got tired of him... By the time he lost nobody thought HOLY FUCKING SHIT, it was more THANK FUCKING CHRIST.

What I'm getting at is, I can see you're passionate about Ryback, but every scenario you're throwing forward has pretty much been done by someone else. Will he be a big name in the future, quite possibly. But not being able to see the big picture that there are other people in the company who have the top spots and have worked their asses off for years to be there is pretty narrow minded. The Shield are being put over now, but the faces will get theirs in the end. It's wrestling 101. It's easier for a face to lose and regain credibility than for a group to keep losing and keep it.

Austin/HHH/Rock all started off feuding together, and when it was their time they blew through the roof. Ryback not winning at PPV's now and having people (The Shield) built to look strong against him now can only mean good things for him when it's his time to destroy them when they're on top.

the company would flow along just fine with I'd guess Orton slotting into the de-facto marquee guy and Punk, Jericho and all of the other top-line talent until the next "once in a generation" guy comes along. Guys like John Cena don't come along every day and no matter how hard you try and make somebody, it's still a somewhat two-way street. There is still plenty of bankable talent available to them, most of it made by them.

How to make a wrestling star 101 is the easiest thing ever: have a guy that beats everybody. If he has "it", the rest will pretty much take care of itself. If not, he will falter or it will become apparent that that's not the way to go with him. This is where Ryback currently stands. He looks like a killer for sure. He just doesn't seem to have that gear change or create that anticipation that makes the roof come off ala Goldberg. And for somebody you're trying to push as a big time babyface, that's a problem.

Yes. And as I said, it's their own doing. I personally would love to see squash matches on RAW. But seeing Cena/Sheamus vs. Big Show/Punk etc is "the norm" now, you can't suddenly start booking Kofi Kingston vs. Cody Rhodes as your RAW main event.

This is pretty much spot on. I think it's also where a lot of fans these days struggle with how the business is. It's easy to compare Ryback to Goldberg (not saying you are, just in general), but it was a different time and crowd back then. If Goldberg never existed and debuted today, would he get the same reactions? Or would he be where Ryback is right now.

Looking back to how stars were built and how easy they got over back then is different to now.

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How to make a wrestling star 101 is the easiest thing ever: have a guy that beats everybody. If he has "it", the rest will pretty much take care of itself. If not, he will falter or it will become apparent that that's not the way to go with him. This is where Ryback currently stands. He looks like a killer for sure. He just doesn't seem to have that gear change or create that anticipation that makes the roof come off ala Goldberg.

He has though. He got some raucous reactions during the Punk feud. He was put in a situation to make the crowd go nuts. And he did. They just haven't really followed up with him. He's been stagnant since.

Yes. And as I said, it's their own doing. I personally would love to see squash matches on RAW. But seeing Cena/Sheamus vs. Big Show/Punk etc is "the norm" now, you can't suddenly start booking Kofi Kingston vs. Cody Rhodes as your RAW main event.[/QUOTE]

You could main event Raw with something like Kofi vs Cody if the last segment is a non-match segment of some sort. If not, it doesn't always have to be main eventer vs main eventer. The first Sheamus vs Sandow match a few weeks after Raw went to 3 hours permanently was a perfect TV match for me. You had a main eventer and an up and coming midcard guy that you, presumably wanna make a star. Sandow looked amazing, Sheamus came out with the win in a good, long match. Sheamus justified why he's a main event star with the good win and Sandow justified why he's not there yet but he can break out at any moment.

The roster is stacked enough to where you can use Raw main events to position guys on the card. And Raw has been ending with in-ring segments a lot anyway so it's not like you're forced to have the main event match as the closer. You can let a couple up and comers get the spot once in a while.

It has something to do with people wanting to see Punk get killed. Not any guy is gonna come in months after his debut though and get the kind of reaction Ryback did though. It definitely takes a guy that people wanna get behind. And the fact that he was genuinely being booked as a scary as fuck monster, and he played the part well, makes him the perfect guy for the crowd to get behind anytime they wanna see a heel get the shit kicked out of them.

It's actually something Cena kinda lacks and I think part of the reason an older crowd can't get behind him. Cena's more the "heart and determination" type. Not exactly the kinda guy you watch and say "Oh shit, this guy I hate is gonna fucking die."

To be fair, he could be waiting to sign a contract extension until after Mania.

Doesn't he have to film something after Mania?

Rock recently stated he's signing a new deal after Mania although it wouldn't take effect until after his next films are done. Won't show up until maybe Summer Slam or Survivor Series the earliest.

Think its later in the month since his current deal goes into Mania week and maybe the week after that.

So he's still gonna be taking off. Even with an extension, I can't see any situation where he could possibly hang on to the belt.

They could do the Punk situation where Punk "left" as champion only for the next night to declare a new tournament to find the next champion.

WWE could easily start that the following week the Rock is gone although it does require them to tell the audience Rock is leaving which could impact some of the ratings (mainly those who just want to see him).

Seems like that would effectively make Rock a heel. Punk only turned face from it because he was "fighting the man". Rock leaving with the belt seems like it would just come off as him being a huge douche.

Kenny king did the squirrel dance for his entrance lol

That consensus would apply to marks more than anyone else.

I say this respectfully, and not in an antagonizing way at all.

But foresight is not really one of your strong suits based off of your posts.

I think I may have trolled a TNA fan via twitter...