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Evil Vito 02-10-2021 08:53 AM

That's just it - when he's telling old stories, talking about some of his road trips, etc it's great and a lot of fun to listen to.

When he keeps pissing and moaning about a business that isn't to his tastes anymore, it's a bore to listen to. But unfortunately a large portion of his listeners like to hear him rail on the current stuff so he has to keep doing it.

Nark Order 02-10-2021 08:59 AM

The only time I ever have to turn him off is when he gets into politics. I didn't turn on the Jim Cornette Wrestling Podcast for his opinion on the Supreme Court.

Supreme Olajuwon 02-10-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5424301)
That's just it - when he's telling old stories, talking about some of his road trips, etc it's great and a lot of fun to listen to.

When he keeps pissing and moaning about a business that isn't to his tastes anymore, it's a bore to listen to. But unfortunately a large portion of his listeners like to hear him rail on the current stuff so he has to keep doing it.

I much prefer the a la carte clips they put on YouTube than listening to the whole episode. The stories are incredible.

Nark Order 02-10-2021 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5424306)
I much prefer the a la carte clips they put on YouTube than listening to the whole episode. The stories are incredible.

Unfortunately that's what I've been doing too. I used to have a weekly ritual where I'd sit in my car and eat Chipotle when a new episode came out but there's been too many times where I've had to turn him off lately.

The wackiest stuff with Corny is that he's willing to scorch personal relationships because he doesn't like certain things. I'm pretty sure he's completely burned bridge with Chris Jericho over AEW, somebody who he knows and at one time had a pretty close personal relationship. That's where it gets batty.

Evil Vito 02-10-2021 09:16 AM

He spent years saying glowing things about MJF only to immediately retract all praise for him because he did a singing segment with Jericho.

Pretty sure he even said flat out he'd never praise a current wrestler again because they'll inevitably "whore themselves out."

So straight up admitting he knows current wrestling isn't for him and he's not going to even try. Yet he complains about it weekly. Talk about the old days you have a passion for instead of spending big chunks of your podcast just taking down stuff that isn't geared towards you anymore.

Nark Order 02-10-2021 09:21 AM

I've always thought it funny how many guys are like "I love Jim Cornette. I want to be his friend. He's just such an asshole."

Evil Vito 02-10-2021 09:27 AM

lol his review of the women's Rumble he started the match halfway through because "come on, I can't sit through an hour long girls Rumble"

you don't have to review it at all, Jim.

Nark Order 02-10-2021 09:33 AM

Thats another thing. When he's like "I review AEW every week because that's what the fans want." Like it's this burden and he doesn't take any joy in shitting on modern wresting. Come on now. We know better, Jim.

thecc 02-10-2021 10:05 AM

I’m just tired of the discourse he creates now. Everytime time someone calls him out on his blatantly racist, homophobic, or transphobic shit there’s some crusty dude always willing to defend him.

thecc 02-10-2021 10:18 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jim Cornette is Donald Trump. Both use nostalgia to instigate hate and anger towards anyone who thinks differently than they do. (A thread)...</p>&mdash; EDfromPODVANDAM (@PodVanDam) <a href="https://twitter.com/PodVanDam/status/1163482459356442624?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 19, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nark Order 02-10-2021 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by thecc (Post 5424321)
I’m just tired of the discourse he creates now. Everytime time someone calls him out on his blatantly racist, homophobic, or transphobic shit there’s some crusty dude always willing to defend him.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Nark Order 02-10-2021 10:24 AM

I could make a list of grievances a mile long about corny and none of that would be on it.

thecc 02-10-2021 10:26 AM

He was retweeting intentionally shitty things against nonbinary people yesterday. and its not the first time either. and all the shit he said about Sonny Kiss.

Nark Order 02-10-2021 10:32 AM

Who is going to Jim Cornette for nuanced views on gender studies?

Supreme Olajuwon 02-10-2021 10:33 AM

Did he delete the tweets because I’m going through his feed and I don’t see them

thecc 02-10-2021 11:08 AM

it looks like he deleted the retweet but this was the one in question

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/TheJimCornette?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheJimCornette</a> If wrestling needs to be more real we need a tag team of non binary millennials called the Snowflakes who take a bump everytime someone opens their mouth</p>&mdash; Nick Withers (@Nickwithers1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Nickwithers1/status/1190360128492621824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 1, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And its not that anyone expects his nuanced takes. It's the fact that he's constantly saying shit like this and its clear most of his fanboys would rather ride his dick then not be shitty to oppressed people. Like he can't even do the bare minimum. And its frustrating that people either won't or choose not to see the problems it causes.

Nark Order 02-10-2021 11:24 AM

That's a pretty tame tweet, honestly. I don't know. It's not like I don't see your point, I just don't get how he's any less mean to literally everybody else. I guess I don't see the "targeting" element. If you want to argue that he's a grumpy old man who's mouth constantly gets him in trouble then sure but I'm not getting the homophobic/transphobic angle. He's a lifelong Democrat who talks about the importance of equality all the time and regularly shits on Republicans for exclusionary legislation. Even if he's out of date with his speech, I don't see where the malice towards these groups is.

Evil Vito 02-10-2021 03:58 PM

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Good background info on the joshi women in the tournament. Love stuff like this.

RP 02-10-2021 04:19 PM

MAH HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE!

thecc 02-10-2021 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Narkseid (Post 5424332)
That's a pretty tame tweet, honestly. I don't know. It's not like I don't see your point, I just don't get how he's any less mean to literally everybody else. I guess I don't see the "targeting" element. If you want to argue that he's a grumpy old man who's mouth constantly gets him in trouble then sure but I'm not getting the homophobic/transphobic angle. He's a lifelong Democrat who talks about the importance of equality all the time and regularly shits on Republicans for exclusionary legislation. Even if he's out of date with his speech, I don't see where the malice towards these groups is.

This might come across meaner than I intend but that's a pretty god damn privileged look at it. Every time this happens, queer people call him out on the issues it causes for us. Instead of showing any kind of remorse, he just doubles down and in turn his followers end up harassing us. I could see the point if it was just once that would be one thing but it's not. And for the record, it's not just him he's just the loudest one. I think the biggest thing that really gets to me but it usually leads to cis straight people always trying to talk over us and I'm just tired of it at this point.

Also I hate the idea that just cuz he's shitty to everyone that it makes it ok.

drave 02-10-2021 04:50 PM

Imma watch the fuck outta some AEW tonight!!

Nark Order 02-10-2021 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by thecc (Post 5424421)
This might come across meaner than I intend but that's a pretty god damn privileged look at it. Every time this happens, queer people call him out on the issues it causes for us. Instead of showing any kind of remorse, he just doubles down and in turn his followers end up harassing us. I could see the point if it was just once that would be one thing but it's not. And for the record, it's not just him he's just the loudest one. I think the biggest thing that really gets to me but it usually leads to cis straight people always trying to talk over us and I'm just tired of it at this point.

Also I hate the idea that just cuz he's shitty to everyone that it makes it ok.

Him being shitty to everyone makes it equal, not necessarily ok. If the specific accusation is targeting minority populations for harassment, I don't think that is shaking out to be the case. People are allowed to be mean to people, that's just the way of the world. If you want to argue he's a jerk, sure have at it. If you're trying to argue that he shouldn't be allowed to be mean on the internet or should only be allowed to be mean to people you deem appropriate, grow up.

Bad News Gertner 02-10-2021 05:52 PM

I'm pretty sure Cornette's main issue with Sonny Kiss was that she was presented with no backstory which is completely reasonable with a gimmick like that.

slik 02-10-2021 05:57 PM

Are Sonny Kiss/Janela still a tag team? I thought they worked better as a tag team than individual wrestlers.

Bad News Gertner 02-10-2021 06:29 PM

I read the AEW results and Janela accompanied Kiss for her match last night

Emperor Smeat 02-10-2021 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5424430)
Are Sonny Kiss/Janela still a tag team? I thought they worked better as a tag team than individual wrestlers.

Yeup.

They show up from time to time on Dark but think the reason for their lack of matches in recent weeks was due to Janela getting hurt during his match against Omega earlier in the year and him being busy working for GCW.

I wouldn't be surprised if Janela leaves AEW once his contract is up. Less due to his low status or lack of direction in the company and more due to him just enjoying working a lot more in a GCW style setting.

Mr. Nerfect 02-12-2021 07:39 PM

Just your occasional reminder that AEW sucks. How many kidnappings did they do this week?

Supreme Olajuwon 02-12-2021 08:13 PM

I mean I was held captive, but only as a viewer. Does that count?

Supreme Olajuwon 02-12-2021 08:18 PM

No matter how much I wanted to look away, I couldn’t. Because it was so great.

slik 02-12-2021 10:13 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fascinated by the censorship choices of this. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tna02?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tna02</a> <a href="https://t.co/13lyG1vHKi">pic.twitter.com/13lyG1vHKi</a></p>&mdash; Jus��in (@Justin_SofOK) <a href="https://twitter.com/Justin_SofOK/status/1360059927352516609?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Lock Jaw 02-12-2021 10:32 PM

Wonder what Disco Inferno is doing these days..... should bring him back in next year's Rumble even though he was never a WWE guy....

slik 02-12-2021 10:35 PM

He spends a lot of time trolling people on Twitter

slik 02-12-2021 10:37 PM

I wonder if this is Smelly Meatball...ya never know, he could have kept this secret for YEARS from the tpww universe


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/tna02?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#tna02</a> <a href="https://t.co/zyYyxOrbxO">pic.twitter.com/zyYyxOrbxO</a></p>&mdash; Jus��in (@Justin_SofOK) <a href="https://twitter.com/Justin_SofOK/status/1358180965261201413?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 6, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 02-12-2021 10:59 PM

I can say with 100% certainty that I've never been that fat before.

Sure I've gained a few pounds during this coronavirus pandemic but nowhere close to looking like a human sized meatball.

Going by Cagematch's listing, that picture of Meatball was from his only appearance ever in TNA.

Vastardikai 02-12-2021 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5425524)
He spends a lot of time trolling people on Twitter

He also does a podcast with Konnan, called Keeping it 100.

RP 02-13-2021 12:47 AM

Am I wrong or is everything happening in the Inner Circle ( Sammy quitting ), leading up to the IC turning on Jericho? I hope it is. I hope they beat the shit out of Jericho and put him out for 3 months and Jericho takes that time to get in shape and come back as the real Chris Jericho and not this fat piece of shit we've been treated to.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-13-2021 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RP (Post 5425566)
Am I wrong or is everything happening in the Inner Circle ( Sammy quitting ), leading up to the IC turning on Jericho? I hope it is. I hope they beat the shit out of Jericho and put him out for 3 months and Jericho takes that time to get in shape and come back as the real Chris Jericho and not this fat piece of shit we've been treated to.

It seems that way although the way they're setting things up, it could be both Sammy and Jericho getting the beat down. I want it to be Sammy because I think as a cocky, brash babyface chasing MJF around would be a fun program and really elevate him.

Mr. Nerfect 02-13-2021 01:46 AM

Every man and their dog expects MJF to take the Inner Circle. It will probably happen in a very similar fashion to the Festival of Friendship. It just doesn’t mean anything.

Jordan 02-13-2021 09:49 AM

I've been feeling like Santana and Ortiz could peel off and split with IC and side with Sammy. I think that would be an interesting story but I'm not sure if I'm getting those vibes right now. There may be many chapters yet to come in the dissolvement of the Inner Circle. I can't imagine Jericho going it alone in the world of AEW.

Evil Vito 02-13-2021 11:25 AM

Yeah the MJF and Sammy stuff this week has me thinking they’re in cahoots to get Jericho ousted.

Then MJF and Sammy could be all “there is no leader in our version of the IC!” even though both of them very clearly are trying to be in charge.

Evil Vito 02-13-2021 11:27 AM

But yeah I do see this eventually being a way to write Jericho off for a while, could see him taking a break after Double or Nothing in May.

He was meant to have last summer off to tour but the pandemic canceled everything, for better or worse live gigs are gonna start coming back this summer so I think Fozzy will be back on the road for a little while.

Mr. Nerfect 02-13-2021 06:58 PM

I just hope Jericho doesn’t become the next wrestling tragedy.

RP 02-13-2021 07:33 PM

Maki Itoh is my favorite AEW wrestler of all time!

RP 02-13-2021 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5425721)
I just hope Jericho doesn’t become the next wrestling tragedy.

I 100% agree with you on this. I was thinking about that a few days ago. I'm actually worried.

Mr. Nerfect 02-13-2021 11:19 PM

I genuinely don’t mean it doom and gloom or to be an ass, but I’ve just got a weird feeling. Yeah, he seems to be having the time of his life, but that often masks deeper shit. And that physical decline he’s had with the schedule he keeps? That’s not good. And just because he’s having fun doesn’t mean his family is. It’s got to be potentially embarrassing to be Chris Jericho’s kids and see him sucking in his gut with women half his age, spreading Covid, claiming he could be in AC-DC, supporting Trump so vocally, and being mocked by people seeing him for the first time in years. I’m being serious. It’s a VERY public mid-life crisis. Sometimes the money you make doesn’t make up for that.

I’m worried that the guys in AEW are such fans of his that they won’t ask the questions. And guys with real addiction problems can get quite good at masking how well they’re operating. They can make it seem a part of their brilliance.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-14-2021 12:36 AM

I'm gonna guess Jericho and MJF win the tag titles, because that's the most interesting angle for the belts and division, and eventually Jericho starts to lose his mister and trust and that's when MJF and the IC give him the boot, only for Sammy to return and clean house.

RP 02-14-2021 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5425827)
I'm gonna guess Jericho and MJF win the tag titles, because that's the most interesting angle for the belts and division, and eventually Jericho starts to lose his mister and trust and that's when MJF and the IC give him the boot, only for Sammy to return and clean house.

Nah

I think Sammy and MJF are in on it. The boot is coming a lot faster. The whole Sammy quitting thing is a sham and it's gonna end with everyone turning on Jericho.


Then hopefully Jericho leaves for 3 months and gets himself in proper shape.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-14-2021 01:15 AM

Jericho taking a break is definitely needed.

Emperor Smeat 02-14-2021 01:32 AM

Think its way more likely Jericho & MJF lose the tag title match than win the belts since this whole Inner Circle drama stuff is probably leading to the group disbanding instead of MJF taking over it.

Plus they don't really need the tag belts if the goal is to kick out Jericho. Them losing would speed up that process towards MJF becoming the new boss or the group splitting up.

Mr. Nerfect 02-14-2021 06:59 AM

I don’t think it matters. We all know this is going towards MJF vs. Alcoholic Chris Jericho in some fashion. MJF will win and he’ll be exactly where he was was when he started. Only now he’s lost the “true heel” vibe he had before the awful singing segment.

slik 02-14-2021 02:19 PM

https://i.postimg.cc/Y0jPL2b6/znsxxkkn7eh61.jpg

Mr. Nerfect 02-14-2021 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5425914)

That makes me hate the fucking group, lol.

Emperor Smeat 02-14-2021 03:51 PM

Sammy Guevara is currently in the dog house in AEW regarding a recent an incident he caused backstage over their current creative plans for him.

AEW originally wanted him to go to Impact as part of his current Inner Circle departure storyline but he refused and caused a big enough scene that word of it reached Impact who told AEW they didn't want him showing up at their tapings place in Nashville.

That led to AEW pulling the plans they had for him afterwards and him getting backstage heat over the big incident he caused.

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Originally Posted by Fightful
Sammy Guevara is taking a break from Daily's Place, but it doesn't look like he's in the IMPACT Zone any time soon.

On the most recent episode of AEW Dynamite, Sammy Guevara told Chris Jericho he was leaving the Inner Circle faction. After he walked away from the group, he would tell Alex Marvez that he needed a break from “this place.”

Now, a new report says Sammy Guevara has upset those in AEW after a reported creative dispute regarding a potential angle that would see him go over to IMPACT Wrestling.

According to a report from Slam Wrestling, Tony Khan is upset with Sammy Guevara for voicing his complaints about his potential storyline with IMPACT. Reportedly, Chris Jericho had the idea of Sammy Guevara going over to the other promotion after he walked out of the Inner Circle faction and an idea was formulated that Tony Khan agreed to so plans were made to shoot the angle. Fightful has not independently verified the stories regarding heat with Khan.

Sammy Guevara reportedly voiced his complaints about the creative direction of the angle and when IMPACT Wrestling received word of this, they contacted Tony Khan and Chris Jericho, leading to Jericho texting Sammy Guevara to return home after he had arrived in Nashville where IMPACT has been filming their programming since the beginning of the pandemic.

While the report does not state what the plan was or what Sammy had an issue with, it is said that Chris Jericho had to reach out to Don Callis about preventing Sammy Guevara from working the IMPACT tapings.

Reportedly, AEW management is concerned that Sammy Guevara may have negatively affected the working relationship the promotion has with IMPACT. Those that Fightful have spoken to on both sides indicated that it's nothing that can't be overcome.

Fightful had heard of an issue regarding an AEW wrestler and their IMPACT creative, but the person was not identified until Sunday morning.


Jordan 02-14-2021 04:57 PM

It feels like it's been 20 years since someone refused to do what they were told. About time.

Evil Vito 02-14-2021 05:33 PM

Sounds like he was going to do what he was told given that he arrived in Nashville for Impact tapings. But Impact didn't want to do the angle if it was someone salty about being there, and I don't blame them.

Emperor Smeat 02-14-2021 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5425955)
Sounds like he was going to do what he was told given that he arrived in Nashville for Impact tapings. But Impact didn't want to do the angle if it was someone salty about being there, and I don't blame them.

Yeah, I don't blame Impact at all for not wanting him showing up at their place.

Based on recent interviews from current and former Impact talent, the locker room there these days is very friendly and happy. All it takes is one grouchy person to start wrecking the cheerful mood over there.

Already seen it with WWE recently where it just took 1 bad incident for the mood of their main roster locker room to sour very quickly. They went from being very happy during the Rumble to becoming very angry post-fiscal report based on reports.

Evil Vito 02-14-2021 05:59 PM

Without knowing his reasoning for not wanting to do the angle, the easy conclusion to jump to is that he feels like going to Impact is a downgrade. If so, not a great mindset to have considering the World champion has done an angle there.

Volare 02-14-2021 06:25 PM

Super confused at all of this.

RP 02-14-2021 06:28 PM

Maybe he realizes Jericho is a fat lazy piece of shit and he doesnt like Jericho trying to send him off to Impact to work angles for Twitch followers.

xrodmuc316 02-14-2021 07:07 PM

I don't blame Sammy. If he wanted to go to Impact, he could have signed with Impact 2 years ago. Why should he have to if he doesn't want to, just because Kenny Omega is friends with Don Call is and Tony Khan wants to air stupid paid for by AEW ads?

JT 02-14-2021 07:46 PM

Also... why is Tony Kahn upset over this thing with Sammy?

AEW worrying about ruining their relationship with Impact is like WWE worrying about ruining their relationship with... well... any company other than WWE.

AEW holds all the power in this Impact relationship... really don't know what Impact even brings to the table here.

Jordan 02-14-2021 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JT (Post 5426082)
Also... why is Tony Kahn upset over this thing with Sammy?

AEW worrying about ruining their relationship with Impact is like WWE worrying about ruining their relationship with... well... any company other than WWE.

AEW holds all the power in this Impact relationship... really don't know what Impact even brings to the table here.


I agree. BTW I read on Twitter than Bryan Alvarez said Okada is coming to AEW. In with NJPW and out with Impact please. Their last ppv was headlined by formee WWE Cruiserweight Champion Rich Swann vs former WWE Hardcore Champion and 50 year old Tommy Dreamer FFS.

Emperor Smeat 02-14-2021 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JT (Post 5426082)
Also... why is Tony Kahn upset over this thing with Sammy?

AEW worrying about ruining their relationship with Impact is like WWE worrying about ruining their relationship with... well... any company other than WWE.

AEW holds all the power in this Impact relationship... really don't know what Impact even brings to the table here.

Whatever Sammy said must have included some really bad stuff to get the type of reaction that pissed off two companies.

Doubt AEW was going to have Sammy be a jobber or low tier wrestler during his time in Impact but whatever was Sammy's issue doesn't seem like it was something that could easily be fixed with a quick tweak of plans.

I wouldn't be surprised if AEW was also worried about this being a bad look on them with their current working relationship with NJPW.

JT 02-14-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5426129)
Whatever Sammy said must have included some really bad stuff to get the type of reaction that pissed off two companies.

Doubt AEW was going to have Sammy be a jobber or low tier wrestler during his time in Impact but whatever was Sammy's issue doesn't seem like it was something that could easily be fixed with a quick tweak of plans.

I wouldn't be surprised if AEW was also worried about this being a bad look on them with their current working relationship with NJPW.

I'd be curious to the little details, and sure they'll come out eventually.

But I'm also looking from a corp/business standpoint. This whole AEW/Impact crossover in general has been weird to me. I really don't get the benefit here... I mean if AEW wanted too, they could lure away almost any of Impact's talent, and their currently broadcast platforms are MUCH bigger than Impact's. This is what REALLY escapes me.

I mean NJPW could be a reason, but imo a thin reason. This just feels like a giant bowing to an ant.

Emperor Smeat 02-14-2021 09:56 PM

Biggest benefit AEW can get with their Impact deal is mostly from Impact's Women's division since that's more notable names and stars that could help out AEW's struggling division.

Plus Impact acting like a minor league system of sorts for them in terms of AEW sending some of their younger and lesser used talent to get them more ring work and experience. AEW's lack of a touring system and a Performance Center-like place really limits how much their talent can improve under current situations. Its why AEW has been more open than WWE when it comes to allowing talent to take outside bookings.

xrodmuc316 02-14-2021 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JT (Post 5426082)
Also... why is Tony Kahn upset over this thing with Sammy?

AEW worrying about ruining their relationship with Impact is like WWE worrying about ruining their relationship with... well... any company other than WWE.

AEW holds all the power in this Impact relationship... really don't know what Impact even brings to the table here.

A wrestler not doing exactly what his boss wants, and then gets buried out of spite, who does that sound like? :rofl:

Damian Rey 2.0 02-15-2021 01:52 AM

While I get why Sammy would be upset since Impact is obvs a much lower league, clearly the move was being done to continue to feature him and build up his return back to AEW while letting him do something interesting and getting fresh match ups. I highly doubt he would've been treated as anything other than a big dealin Impact. I wonder if he just shot himself in the foot and ruined a huge push.

RP 02-15-2021 02:49 AM

Imagine not pushing Sammy Guevera because he hurt Impacts feelings. Aside from maybe MJF, Sammy might have to most your superstar potential of anyone on the roster.

Maybe AEW is trying to position themselves to buy Impact and all there library.

Mr. Nerfect 02-15-2021 03:10 AM

AEW and TNA total messes. It’s probably a work. It doesn’t make sense for it to be, but that’d be the point.

Emperor Smeat 02-15-2021 04:03 AM

Turns out Sammy's incident wasn't caused behind the scenes in AEW but in Impact instead.

Same for AEW finding out afterwards what was happening and not the other way around with Impact.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWI
Sammy Guevara was slated to work this past week's Impact Wrestling TV tapings but was pulled from the tapings, SlamWrestling.net reported. PWInsider.com has confirmed with Impact sources that the story is accurate.

The original plan was Guevara to work a short storyline at the tapings that began this past Tuesday through Thursday playing off Guevara quitting the Inner Circle. Multiple sources indicate that AEW and Impact worked out the plans but that Guevara did not fly to Nashville the day before the tapings scheduled and rescheduled himself to arrive in Nashville just a few hours before the tapings would begin.

Impact sources also indicated that although everyone had agreed to the planned ideas, Guevara began texting Impact officials about alternative ideas and "not wanting to do what was agreed to." At that point, Impact officials canceled Guevara off the tapings. Slam's story states that Guevara has heat with AEW officials over the matter and that Chris Jericho informed him to fly back home after Guevara landed in Nashville on Tuesday's afternoon.

We are told that the majority of what had been planned for Guevara saw Decay's Black Taurus utilized in that role instead.

Impact sources reiterated there was no issue with AEW at all and the relations between the two sides are "golden."


Mr. Nerfect 02-15-2021 04:10 AM

Cracks starting to form. Why is Chris Jericho handling this sort of stuff? Just a fucking shit-show.

slik 02-15-2021 04:40 AM

damn @ Sammy G heat

Seanny One Ball 02-15-2021 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5426261)
A wrestler not doing exactly what his boss wants, and then gets buried out of spite, who does that sound like? :rofl:



lol

Jordan 02-15-2021 08:46 AM

Tony Kahn been getting heat in the UK for His Fulham league. Apparently they have lost 12 in a row. Fans saying he's too occupied on his pro wrestling company, calling for a change. I don't follow football so I'm not really up on it. Seems worth noting though.

Jordan 02-15-2021 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5426298)
Cracks starting to form. Why is Chris Jericho handling this sort of stuff? Just a fucking shit-show.

It will be interesting to hear the shit talk that comes from the first wave of talent who doesn't get renewed.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-15-2021 10:47 AM

"CrAcKs sTaRtInG tO fOrM" because Sammy had some ideas and Impact got mad? Lmao while Sammy should've just done what was planned, I highly doubt this'll do anything that would hurt his future or AEW.

screech 02-15-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5426313)
Tony Kahn been getting heat in the UK for His Fulham league. Apparently they have lost 12 in a row. Fans saying he's too occupied on his pro wrestling company, calling for a change. I don't follow football so I'm not really up on it. Seems worth noting though.

I know he only tweets about the team when they win lol

screech 02-15-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5426338)
"CrAcKs sTaRtInG tO fOrM" because Sammy had some ideas and Impact got mad? Lmao while Sammy should've just done what was planned, I highly doubt this'll do anything that would hurt his future or AEW.

Yes. Out of everything that could kill the company, Sammy being mad about an idea that another promotion had for him will be the beginning of the end. May as well shut down this and the ratings thread now.

drave 02-15-2021 11:08 AM

#ShutItDown


/Drebinpost

Damian Rey 2.0 02-15-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by screech (Post 5426340)
Yes. Out of everything that could kill the company, Sammy being mad about an idea that another promotion had for him will be the beginning of the end. May as well shut down this and the ratings thread now.

That report read more like "Sammy didn't like the idea and gave alternative ideas and Impact said fuck it, nevermind." This is not a big deal lol.

screech 02-15-2021 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5426351)
That report read more like "Sammy didn't like the idea and gave alternative ideas and Impact said fuck it, nevermind." This is not a big deal lol.

Exactly. Does it make some people look bad? Sure, but it's not the end of the world lol

Jordan 02-15-2021 01:02 PM

This just makes me like Sammy more.

RP 02-15-2021 02:17 PM

I already loved Sammy and now we see he actually has a backbone... This is great!

Evil Vito 02-15-2021 02:43 PM

Remember when the Dark Order first started becoming a cult in late 2019 and they had their JoinDarkOrder website with the mailing list?

Well they've implied several times on BTE over the last year that nobody has ever been checking the e-mails, including Hangman Page's application apparently being lost in the shuffle.

Today on BTE they showed Alan Angels struggling to reply to thousands of e-mails and now they've blasted this out to everybody on the mailing list:

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The wait has finally paid off. Your application to join Dark Order has been reviewed.
Congratulations. You have been accepted!

On behalf of all members of Dark Order: Welcome. You have found your biggest supporters. Together, we can find new strength in numbers.
We are one.

PS. If this is Adam's email, please get back to me!



-Alan "V" Angels

Mr. Nerfect 02-15-2021 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5426313)
Tony Kahn been getting heat in the UK for His Fulham league. Apparently they have lost 12 in a row. Fans saying he's too occupied on his pro wrestling company, calling for a change. I don't follow football so I'm not really up on it. Seems worth noting though.

Tony is notoriously bad at running everything. Jacksonville players have lashed out at his mismanagement too. He’s considered a “clown” in football circles. That and the hilarious comments about him wanking dogs.

TK is only exalted by wrestling fans. And that’s just because he’s not Vince McMahon. In time it will become apparent how poorly he has managed AEW and the overall negative it has been for wrestling.

He’s a fucking idiot. He’s the sort of guy who studies really hard in school to get a B, people think he’s smart because they only see the end result, and then his Daddy buys companies for him to work in because no one else would hire him.

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Originally Posted by Jordan X (Post 5426314)
It will be interesting to hear the shit talk that comes from the first wave of talent who doesn't get renewed.

It’s going to be amazing. I hope we get an honest JR shoot when he leaves.

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5426455)
Remember when the Dark Order first started becoming a cult in late 2019 and they had their JoinDarkOrder website with the mailing list?

Well they've implied several times on BTE over the last year that nobody has ever been checking the e-mails, including Hangman Page's application apparently being lost in the shuffle.

Today on BTE they showed Alan Angels struggling to reply to thousands of e-mails and now they've blasted this out to everybody on the mailing list:

This is fucking horrible.

xrodmuc316 02-15-2021 03:40 PM

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/20...ly-every-week/

Ross mentioned a tweet he received saying his commentary from past Royal Rumbles had been taken out of a recent video package highlighting the match’s history. He said nobody should be surprised and it’s another reason why AEW is on WWE’s mind.

“That shouldn’t surprise you,” Ross said. “It tells me they are aware of AEW very prominently even though they would not want to admit it. Triple H called us early on a ‘piss ant’ organization or something like that. This piss ant organization is beating NXT and we beat them soundly last week.”

Yet another idiotic take from this stupid old man.

Something Triple H said as a joke to his friend 2 years ago, and it is still on JR's mind.

He thinks this makes AEW cool and edgy, but it is sad. Old man spends his entire time burying his former employer, but expects them to keep highlighting his commentary from 15 years ago?

FYI, I just heard is voice in a recap video WWE did. So he is just lying so he can complain and bring up something from 2 years that butthurt him so bad he STILL isn't over it.

Fuck Jim Ross.

Damian Rey 2.0 02-15-2021 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5426455)
Remember when the Dark Order first started becoming a cult in late 2019 and they had their JoinDarkOrder website with the mailing list?

Well they've implied several times on BTE over the last year that nobody has ever been checking the e-mails, including Hangman Page's application apparently being lost in the shuffle.

Today on BTE they showed Alan Angels struggling to reply to thousands of e-mails and now they've blasted this out to everybody on the mailing list:

Hahaha

Volare 02-15-2021 07:02 PM

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Volare 02-15-2021 07:06 PM

Mei vs Yuka opening match.

Evil Vito 02-15-2021 07:07 PM

OH NO Mei and Yuka wearing character specific gear, the horror!!!1!

Volare 02-15-2021 07:08 PM

Mei is the female Japanese Colt Cabana lmao.

Volare 02-15-2021 07:10 PM

Damn nice torque on the figure 4 headlock over the ropes.

Volare 02-15-2021 07:10 PM

Nice STF Roll as well. I want this Yuka back asap!

Evil Vito 02-15-2021 07:11 PM

Magical Sugar Rabbits might be my new favorite tag team name

Volare 02-15-2021 07:12 PM

Ok first complaint....obvious as it could be with the overdelayed 2 count.

Volare 02-15-2021 07:13 PM

Holy fuck at Mei's submission!!

Evil Vito 02-15-2021 07:14 PM

Excalibur did his research here, a lot of good info on their careers

Volare 02-15-2021 07:14 PM

13K on YT currently....chat is all for Mei and Maki.

Volare 02-15-2021 07:16 PM

CATTLE MUTILATION?!?!?!?!?!

Evil Vito 02-15-2021 07:16 PM

Always loved the Cattle Mutilation


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