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#1-norm-fan 07-29-2021 11:03 AM

There’s always context in the banana stand.

Noid 07-29-2021 11:07 AM

All this cyberbullying is too much to handle. #BAStar

drave 07-29-2021 12:35 PM

Find your disturbing context of lack I.

slik 07-29-2021 12:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Spoke to someone from one of the networks right after today’s <a href="https://twitter.com/Matmenpodcast?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Matmenpodcast</a> <br><br>Here is what this person said:<br><br>“WWE is not as concerned about the possible Daniel Bryan and CM Punk signing to AEW as we are…”</p>&mdash; Andrew Zarian (@AndrewZarian) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewZarian/status/1420786094979887116?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damian Rey 2.0 07-29-2021 01:02 PM

WWE shouldn’t care until it starts putting a dent in their wallet. And the only way I see that happening is if AEW keeps pulling a million viewers, and WWE gets low balled on their next TV deals because why is a TV company going to going to post ungodly amounts of money for a product that’s barely out drawing the alternative?

But until that happens, they won’t and maybe shouldn’t care what AEW thinks.

fundiddle 07-29-2021 04:36 PM

tbs is where shows go to die. long term game

rez 07-30-2021 06:04 PM

eh, WWE went to TNN/SpikeTV and UPN for a minute

slik 07-30-2021 11:35 PM

TBS is in more homes than TNT

Mr. Nerfect 08-05-2021 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5468079)
TBS is in more homes than TNT

That means nothing. It’s a ghost town of comedy reruns. Everyone who has a TV can pick up a basic signal, but it doesn’t mean you don’t want Netflix over 3am local access.

Mr. Nerfect 08-05-2021 05:32 PM

Doesn’t matter how many people watch AEW if the idea is that they’re all a bunch of muppets either. AEW getting kicked off its slot for semi-serious sports is not a good thing, no matter how hard someone squints to make it look that way.

And when TBS realizes they make more ad revenue off Big Bang reruns than Dynamite, the game’s gonna change again.

No one with any sense of taste advertisers value thinks AEW is good. It’s bad taste trash that is a punchline for how popular something with no artistic merit can be. And it’s not even that popular for that.

Mr. Nerfect 08-05-2021 05:42 PM

Look at and listen to an AEW crowd. They are people you wouldn’t trust to fix your sink without supervision, let alone people you would want to spend any sort of meaningful time with. Doesn’t matter how many of them are at a party if they’re the sort of people who kick their fingers before reaching back into the cheese puffs.

The demo talk is all bullshit. Wrestling fans are people other companies don’t want to be seen with their product. More likely to buy their enemies advertising time to punish them. Meltzer needs to sell newsletters and the ratings talk provides a consistent section he can rattle on about during slow weeks. They provide a story that can be poorly represented and interpreted. And when he wants to make someone look good, you can talk about how someone did well in a certain demo, on cable in 2021, like fucking lol. Raw sucks, declining viewership, AEW rules, high demo, not as good as Raw’s, but don’t talk about that. You’ve got a declining fan-base, but they spend more money than ever before, so carer to them and get out while you can.

Lock Jaw 08-05-2021 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5469435)
Look at and listen to an AEW crowd. They are people you wouldn’t trust to fix your sink without supervision, let alone people you would want to spend any sort of meaningful time with. Doesn’t matter how many of them are at a party if they’re the sort of people who kick their fingers before reaching back into the cheese puffs.

lol just the mental image I am getting

drave 08-06-2021 09:38 AM

You kick your fingers regularly, LJ? Pre or post work poo?

Noid 08-11-2021 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5469435)
Look at and listen to an AEW crowd. They are people you wouldn’t trust to fix your sink without supervision, let alone people you would want to spend any sort of meaningful time with. Doesn’t matter how many of them are at a party if they’re the sort of people who kick their fingers before reaching back into the cheese puffs.

The demo talk is all bullshit. Wrestling fans are people other companies don’t want to be seen with their product. More likely to buy their enemies advertising time to punish them. Meltzer needs to sell newsletters and the ratings talk provides a consistent section he can rattle on about during slow weeks. They provide a story that can be poorly represented and interpreted. And when he wants to make someone look good, you can talk about how someone did well in a certain demo, on cable in 2021, like fucking lol. Raw sucks, declining viewership, AEW rules, high demo, not as good as Raw’s, but don’t talk about that. You’ve got a declining fan-base, but they spend more money than ever before, so carer to them and get out while you can.

There is merit to this argument. The fanbase comprises of outcasts who do not fit the mold of society or what advertisers are looking for. On top of that, they're entitled and constantly seeking gratification. I'd say this is true for WWE fans as well. All the hate watching is simply very toxic and doesn't really paint a good picture of one's mental health. I'd reckon cutting down on your consumption of wrestling. Cherrypick what speaks to you and discard the rest. Change is an undeniable fact of life. Everything you love will change and there's a good chance that you might be resistant to it.

Triple A 08-11-2021 05:07 PM

Tony Khan on Busted Open Radio today: "I think everyone knows what to expect on the second episode of Rampage, which is titled ‘The First Dance.’ And I expect the anticipation will continue to build.”

Sepholio 08-11-2021 05:31 PM

Maybe its me but I feel like the anticipation would be a hell of a lot higher if they didn't constantly reference whats going to happen. Everyone knows its coming. There is no surprise or "what if" feeling to be had. Sucks tbh.

Sepholio 08-11-2021 05:35 PM

Imagine if they kept it quiet. Rampage in Chicago is on the air. Crowd doing a CM Punk chant because it's Chicago. No one really expects him to be there because it's Punk and it's been 8 years. Then that music hits and the roof explodes into the stratosphere.

It will still be a huge pop regardless, but not like it would have been if they left the element of surprise there.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-11-2021 05:53 PM

They haven’t flat out told you what to expect. The Punk rumors are just that at this point and there’s no report our company confirmation that he’s been officially signed. It’s smart to be vague because they want eyeballs on the he show which is already on a bad night, and they’re gonna want the follow up viewership the following Wednesday. I can tell you personally that my anticipation is building and I’m eager to get to next week to see how they debut him or how of the results the crowd goes if he doesn’t show up.

BigCrippyZ 08-11-2021 06:38 PM

Yeah, no one involved has even officially mentioned Punk's name yet and I'm still going to check out Rampage next Friday just to see what happens. Would it be "cooler" if it had been kept entirely secret, sure, but they likely would never have been able to sell the tickets they have for the United Center, and they would have been pretty dumb to book a venue that would've otherwise likely been half empty for a debuting CM Punk.

xrodmuc316 08-11-2021 06:54 PM

I dont know if it would even be that big of a deal to me if it was a 100% surprise. I think waiting 3 extra years before joining is dumb. Punk feels very irrelevant to me.

I think maybe that is why they are *wink winking* him coming in so much, because after the initial return in his hometown, is anybody honestly not going to be immediately looking forward to the New York show and Bryan Danielson?

Punk seems like filler until Bryan shows up.

xrodmuc316 08-11-2021 06:57 PM

Although, I would enjoy Colt getting the Dark Order to try and collect Colt's legal fees by beating them out of Punk.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-11-2021 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 5470345)
Yeah, no one involved has even officially mentioned Punk's name yet and I'm still going to check out Rampage next Friday just to see what happens. Would it be "cooler" if it had been kept entirely secret, sure, but they likely would never have been able to sell the tickets they have for the United Center, and they would have been pretty dumb to book a venue that would've otherwise likely been half empty for a debuting CM Punk.

They sold out for next week and still have tickets available for the go home shows the following week. I think if Punk does show up, the ballsy move to run the same market 4 straight shows might pay off gate wise. If for whatever reason they didn’t sign Punk, and they run Rampage without him, that crowd is gonna have a meltdown and high jack the show.

I would hope and think Khan and company aren’t that dumb.

Jordan 08-11-2021 07:59 PM

If for whatever reason AEW doesn't have Punk under contract I think that as long as they have Paul Wight (no more BS you guys) work a tour of big matches that the crowd in Chicago and all the people who fly in will go home happy.

drave 08-12-2021 09:01 AM

Are you fucking insane? The hype around Punk right now, in CHICAGO, better deliver. As stated already, the fans will revolt if it is anything else and if AEW shits the bed again, it'll be the start of a pretty nasty downward spiral.


It wouldn't be the first time they "over-promise" or whatever, and wrestling fans are fickle to a fucking fault.

Jordan 08-12-2021 09:20 AM

I think "No More BS" Paul Wight is the BIGGEST star in wrestling and could carry the torch higher than any competitor in the world.

Lock Jaw 08-12-2021 09:29 AM

He's no Christian Cage.

Jordan 08-12-2021 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5470600)
He's no Christian Cage.

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Evil Vito 08-12-2021 10:36 AM

Cult of Personality hits and MJF walks out instead.

Damian Rey 2.0 08-12-2021 03:10 PM

That would be awesome the following week. Open the show with MJF pissing off the marks.

Frank Drebin 08-16-2021 12:44 AM

Simpsons did it

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