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xrodmuc316 10-28-2018 11:09 PM

Fearless, not afraid of anything, but marriage :)

KIRA 10-28-2018 11:10 PM

I will concede that Daniel Bryan probably married the wrong Bella Twin

Triple A 10-28-2018 11:10 PM

I like how Rousey tries to realistically fight out of submission moves instead of them just being shitty boring unrealistic 2 minute rest holds like in other WWE matches

Emperor Smeat 10-28-2018 11:10 PM

WWE needing Ronda to do long matches really exposes how weak they suddenly made her after starting off as a beast. Same problem Goldberg had where his aura started to feel a lot less special the more he had to do longer matches.

KIRA 10-28-2018 11:11 PM

Takes out the 6ft 5 Triple H having serious trouble with the Bella Twins WWE logic

Triple A 10-28-2018 11:11 PM

Ronda's forehead bleeding, wonder if she actually hit her head on the ringpost

Stickman 10-28-2018 11:14 PM

Lol at Micheal cole texting

RP 10-28-2018 11:15 PM

Hey guys, I think Nikki has a chance here.

Emperor Smeat 10-28-2018 11:15 PM

:lol: at Ronda being too loud calling the spot.

slik 10-28-2018 11:15 PM

Michael Cole taken out lol

Emperor Smeat 10-28-2018 11:18 PM

Decent main event but also way too long.

Smackdown title match really should have closed out the show.

Crimson 10-28-2018 11:18 PM

Wtf was that kissing necessary

KIRA 10-28-2018 11:19 PM

There is also a massive bruise on Nikki Bella's hip

Crimson 10-28-2018 11:20 PM

Where's the other horsewomen

Emperor Smeat 10-28-2018 11:22 PM

Entertaining event overall even if some of the matches had flat or meh endings ... just like regular WWE PPVs so I guess that counts as equality.

Guess on the bright side, at least WWE didn't throw away a historic main event just to put the spotlight on something else instead.

Like with the Women's Rumble match having Asuka's spotlight taken away for someone not involved in the match, rumor was the MMA 4 Horsewomen were going to interfere in this match and likely turn Ronda heel in the process. So basically Evolution's main event would just have been a toss-away moment for Survivor Series and Ronda's Pals.

Triple A 10-28-2018 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson (Post 5189534)
Wtf was that kissing necessary

Long ass uncomfortable kiss

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-28-2018 11:25 PM

was pleasantly surprised with the main event. For the most part it made sense when Ronda was selling.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-28-2018 11:28 PM

Far too much Crown Jewel stuff tonight.

slik 10-28-2018 11:31 PM

Really good show overall

Volare 10-29-2018 12:30 AM

I watched for this...

https://media1.tenor.com/images/67b8...temid=12573529

and this...

https://66.media.tumblr.com/6c655e65...yu9yo1_500.gif

That is all.

Tom Guycott 10-29-2018 12:45 AM

Would you expect anything less?

xrodmuc316 10-29-2018 12:59 AM

You know what, why does Nia Jax cry every time she wins a match? That makes sense for an underdog, but when you weigh 200 pounds more than your opponents, shouldn't you expect to win?

RP 10-29-2018 01:04 AM

she needs to stop eating.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-29-2018 01:07 AM

Has a company ever done a great thing and followed it up five days later with something shit?

Is Evolution the NXT TakeOver of Crown Jewel?

Emperor Smeat 10-29-2018 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5189579)
Has a company ever done a great thing and followed it up five days later with something shit?

Is Evolution the NXT TakeOver of Crown Jewel?

WCW once had Lex Luger break Hogan's ironhold grip on the WCW World Championship only to hand it right back to Hogan 5 days later.

Triple A 10-29-2018 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5189574)
You know what, why does Nia Jax cry every time she wins a match? That makes sense for an underdog, but when you weigh 200 pounds more than your opponents, shouldn't you expect to win?

Yeah... also always feels extremely forced... like all of her promos tbh

slik 10-29-2018 01:51 AM

Ronda vs Nia was good the 1st time it happened but I'm surprised they are already doing a rematch

Sepholio 10-29-2018 01:53 AM

Ronda v Nia round 2 at SS is how they will debut the 4 horsewomen angle that they held off on tonight.

slik 10-29-2018 01:56 AM

Wouldn't that angle turn Ronda heel tho?

There's zero chance of Shayna getting a face push. Seems like turning Ronda heel would be 'dumb' r/n

slik 10-29-2018 01:56 AM

Then again they think Charlotte is a face

GD 10-29-2018 01:59 AM

It was a fine PPV. Appreciated the production and lighting scheme. Felt more of a NXT event rather than a WWE one. I guess Vince wasn't involved as heavily. Did anyone else catch Cole on the phone during the main event?

slik 10-29-2018 01:59 AM

Cole was texting all night I read

slik 10-29-2018 02:00 AM

#WhoWasColeTexting

Lock Jaw 10-29-2018 02:00 AM

Sorry I was not here with y'all, but I started watching the show late.

Anyways, I loved the show. Probably one of my favourite shows of the year. I hope they do more all-women events. Maybe a "Big Four" per year. (Not timed around the other Big 4 which already have NXT Takeovers)

Even the matches I thought that I wouldn't care about like the Battle Royale and the 6 women tag ended up being highly enjoyable.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-29-2018 02:00 AM

Texting with Vince or Corey Graves?

slik 10-29-2018 02:01 AM

Maybe Cole was sexting!!

slik 10-29-2018 02:02 AM

@lock jaw


I really liked it too. Great show.

slik 10-29-2018 02:03 AM

Cole prob sexting someone unexpected...maybe IVORY??

slik 10-29-2018 02:03 AM

OH MY

slik 10-29-2018 02:03 AM

COULD IT BE

slik 10-29-2018 02:03 AM

IT IS!!!

slik 10-29-2018 02:04 AM

(Michael Cole sends a dick pic)

slik 10-29-2018 02:04 AM

AN EXPLOSIVE DEBUT!!

xrodmuc316 10-29-2018 02:07 AM

Nia is more miscast as a face then Charlotte is. King Kong Bundy wasn't a face, and Nia shouldn't be either.

Also confused at putting over Ember Moon throughout the match just to not put her over and give her the win.

GD 10-29-2018 02:10 AM

I wish Ember Moon would've won the Battle Royal but then again Nia Jax is far more popular and a rematch with Ronda is warranted.

slik 10-29-2018 02:12 AM

Ember a solid contender to win the Royal Rumble now imo

xrodmuc316 10-29-2018 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverend David (Post 5189613)
I wish Ember Moon would've won the Battle Royal but then again Nia Jax is far more popular and a rematch with Ronda is warranted.

More popular than Ember? I beg to differ.

GD 10-29-2018 02:13 AM

Ember is solid in the ring. Wish her character was more defined. Has been a complain since her days in NXT.

slik 10-29-2018 02:17 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When the Network went from Evolution to House Hardy Halloween <a href="https://t.co/vjppaj5sjL">pic.twitter.com/vjppaj5sjL</a></p>&mdash; BIll kauFF (@BillKauff) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillKauff/status/1056734807219146753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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slik 10-29-2018 02:21 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nope.</p>&mdash; Rebecca Quin (@BeckyLynchWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE/status/1056741669733838848?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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SlickyTrickyDamon 10-29-2018 02:28 AM

Becky Vs. Ronda Survivor Series after all. :y:

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-29-2018 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverend David (Post 5189619)
Ember is solid in the ring. Wish her character was more defined. Has been a complain since her days in NXT.

It really is. She has been the character since a kid playing Dungeon and Dragons.

Franco Vazquez 10-29-2018 05:47 AM

What a poor PPV. Crown Jewel sold all seats within few hours whereas it took months to fill seats for this one. I see many people praising Becky vs Charlotte match. Like just because they did some monkey stuff doesn't its good. Men wrestlers hardly get any stipulation like that in WWE otherwise I am pretty sure they would have 1000 times better match than that.

Innovator 10-29-2018 10:05 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">She tried. <a href="https://t.co/roO56ylSAJ">pic.twitter.com/roO56ylSAJ</a></p>&mdash; Rebecca Quin (@BeckyLynchWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/BeckyLynchWWE/status/1056890653374853120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Volare 10-29-2018 11:19 AM

Savage Beck.

ClockShot 10-29-2018 02:15 PM

:rofl:

Brutal. I love it.

slik 10-29-2018 03:40 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So proud to be a part of such a historic night!!! So surreal!!! thanks <a href="https://twitter.com/COVERGIRL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@covergirl</a> for the glam ... ❤️<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVERGIRLPartner?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVERGIRLPartner</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVERMADE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVERMADE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ad?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ad</a> <a href="https://t.co/43jlR2V08J">pic.twitter.com/43jlR2V08J</a></p>&mdash; Nattie (@NatbyNature) <a href="https://twitter.com/NatbyNature/status/1056913760101826560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Lock Jaw 10-29-2018 03:41 PM

Scrolling down, thought she was kissing a vibrator

Gerard 10-29-2018 03:59 PM

What was the attendance for this meant to be? The setup looked more like a house show with the regular railings with banners on them instead of the padded ones we see on most other shows?

Swiss Ultimate 10-29-2018 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5189726)
What was the attendance for this meant to be? The setup looked more like a house show with the regular railings with banners on them instead of the padded ones we see on most other shows?

It was meant to be slightly bigger than a backyard wrestling match.

Mr. Nerfect 10-29-2018 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5189726)
What was the attendance for this meant to be? The setup looked more like a house show with the regular railings with banners on them instead of the padded ones we see on most other shows?

Not sold out. They were selling tickets for $7 right up to the event and there were pockets of empty seats and they had plenty of room to put people into the crowd for spots.

Emperor Smeat 10-29-2018 05:17 PM

Based on those at the event, WWE pretty much shut off the feed on the tron whenever they showed ads for Crown Jewel. Got that upset over the crowd who kept booing it rightfully so.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5189726)
What was the attendance for this meant to be? The setup looked more like a house show with the regular railings with banners on them instead of the padded ones we see on most other shows?

The usual 10k-15k range for smaller PPV events.

Considering WWE supposedly barely cared about the event itself to begin with, made sense they'd use a house show or NXT format for the setup and lighting.

Vastardikai 10-29-2018 05:20 PM

The question on everyone's mind:

How many Titties got honked?

:shifty:

Swiss Ultimate 10-29-2018 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5189771)
The question on everyone's mind:

How many Titties got honked?

:shifty:

I don't think Lawler was even there.

Bad News Gertner 10-29-2018 06:24 PM

Not a fan of how this inspires women to be whatever they want to be.

KIRA 10-29-2018 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Midnight Gertner (Post 5189786)
Not a fan of how this inspires women to be whatever they want to be.

You didn't even enjoy Becky killing Charlotte?

Also I'm pretty sure Shayna baszler is a man.

Mr. Nerfect 10-29-2018 07:04 PM

Thinking about checking out the Becky/Charlotte match. Was it as good as I hear?

GD 10-29-2018 07:14 PM

Meltzer suggested it was one of the best main roster matches of the year.

Emperor Smeat 10-29-2018 07:20 PM

Could make a strong argument on it being the best ever women's match on the main roster and MotY candidate in the WWE. I'd be shocked if WWE didn't put it in the Top 5/10 for their own list at the end of the year.

Only real complaint was the ref being comical at how inconsistent he was with the counting. Like the final 10 count shouldn't have happened since he called off similar downs earlier in the match.

Damian Rey 2.0 10-29-2018 07:24 PM

I watched a condensed version of the show on YouTube. The Becky Charlotte match looked fun, although there were some clips of Becky being sorta cowardly in demeanor. I'm stunned she won honestly.

Mr. Nerfect 10-29-2018 07:24 PM

That's a very frustrating thing though, haha. It kind of defeats the hard work the women did. If I can't make sense of it, maybe I should give it a skip.

Mr. Nerfect 10-29-2018 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5189800)
I watched a condensed version of the show on YouTube. The Becky Charlotte match looked fun, although there were some clips of Becky being sorta cowardly in demeanor. I'm stunned she won honestly.

Yeah, I was predicting Charlotte to win and piss off the crowd.

Lock Jaw 10-29-2018 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5189796)
Thinking about checking out the Becky/Charlotte match. Was it as good as I hear?

You should definitely skip it, because you don't like good things anymore.

Mr. Nerfect 10-29-2018 07:59 PM

:roll:

Fignuts 10-29-2018 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5189796)
Thinking about checking out the Becky/Charlotte match. Was it as good as I hear?

I think it's been overhyped a bit, but the PPV is worth a watch. Becky vs Charlotte, Storm vs Shirai, and Sane vs Bayzler were all good. Everything else was at least a solid fun match.

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-29-2018 09:14 PM

Becky versus Charlotte was a touch sloppy at times but where they succeeded was with intensity and creating a big fight feel. Maybe not an all time classic, but they definitely delivered something worth talking about when the division needed it.

I preferred it over that clusterfuck NXT ladder match from earlier in the year that everyone acted like was the greatest thing ever.

Bad News Gertner 10-29-2018 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 5189794)
You didn't even enjoy Becky killing Charlotte?

Also I'm pretty sure Shayna baszler is a man.

I don't even watch the men, let alone the women. (I'm just being annoying, I like women's wrestling but I don't watch current wrestling at all. Judy Martin > Anyone on the show .)

Swiss Ultimate 10-30-2018 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Midnight Gertner (Post 5190111)
I don't even watch the men, let alone the women. (I'm just being annoying, I like women's wrestling but I don't watch current wrestling at all. Judy Martin > Anyone on the show .)

I think I removed all ads through this thread. Now you can read everything I said.

Mr. Nerfect 10-30-2018 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5189887)
I think it's been overhyped a bit, but the PPV is worth a watch. Becky vs Charlotte, Storm vs Shirai, and Sane vs Bayzler were all good. Everything else was at least a solid fun match.

It sounds like they avoided a lot of the "chokepoints" I thought they might hit. The sadist in me was kind of hoping they would, becomes sometimes a disaster of a show is more fun than something solid, lol.

That referee thing might seem little, but that sort of thing really bugs me. Is it super-noticeable?

slik 10-30-2018 10:27 AM

Gertner actually attended the show. I have proof:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There was a dude in the men’s room last night at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWEEvolution?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWEEvolution</a> ranting about wanting “hot lesbian action” and bra and panties matches. “That’s what we want!” The response was crickets. He had zero support. One guy replied, “Do you want a time machine, too?”</p>&mdash; Marc Raimondi (@marc_raimondi) <a href="https://twitter.com/marc_raimondi/status/1056921616721035264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Bad News Gertner 10-30-2018 10:45 AM

The show would been actually entertaining. Pudding matches > Becky vs Charlotte.

Big Vic 10-30-2018 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Midnight Gertner (Post 5189786)
Not a fan of how this inspires women to be whatever they want to be.

It's this kind of toxicity that inspires people like Bad News Gertner to not want to post anymore.

Bad News Gertner 10-30-2018 11:30 AM

Bad News Gertner hasn't been around in a long time has he?

Ol Dirty Dastard 10-30-2018 11:40 AM

His lack of presence is the worst news of all :(

#1-norm-fan 11-01-2018 02:34 AM

Main event of this show is already being given away for free on YouTube by WWE.. It’s Rousey vs. Nikki Bella and for some reason it’s 20+ minutes long. Do they do a good job of making an excuse for why it takes Ronda over 20 minutes to dispose of Nikki Bella or should I just ignore it?

Damian Rey 2.0 11-01-2018 02:42 AM

The condensed version I saw the night of the ppv showed her in peril and Brie giving her trouble. So I'm not sure how you'd take that.

How Ronda isn't a Brock Lesnar esque wrecking ball is odd tho. She doesn't need 20 minute matches. She might get more over just bulldozing people.

Destor 11-01-2018 02:46 AM

Why would she dispose of nikki bella in less than 20 min? Its a work. Everyone buying a ticket knows that grandpa

Simple Fan 11-01-2018 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Midnight Gertner (Post 5190412)
Bad News Gertner hasn't been around in a long time has he?

Nashvember is upon us and he's usually Nashgiving. Hopefully he'll make a return.

#1-norm-fan 11-01-2018 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5191292)
Why would she dispose of nikki bella in less than 20 min? Its a work. Everyone buying a ticket knows that grandpa

The same reason Lesnar doesn’t have 20 minute matches. If you’re booking someone as a killer, having them do the same long, competitive matches as everyone else is fucking stupid.

#1-norm-fan 11-01-2018 11:47 AM

But again, if there’s some creative shenanigans that extend the length of the match, I’m all for it.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-01-2018 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5191289)
Main event of this show is already being given away for free on YouTube by WWE.. It’s Rousey vs. Nikki Bella and for some reason it’s 20+ minutes long. Do they do a good job of making an excuse for why it takes Ronda over 20 minutes to dispose of Nikki Bella or should I just ignore it?

I hate Ronda selling for dainty divas, but the psychology was tight. Nikki only gained her advantage when her and Bri double-teamed/distraction tacticked her. She got posted a few times and it looked "brutal".

Her comeback was strong and she pretty much murdered Nikki. Nikki on offence was a bit blah, but Ronda needs a bit more time to work on those middle portions of the match which can come with seasoning

It was by no means a classic, or even a great match. But it was solid work from the two ladies.

Damian Rey 2.0 11-01-2018 01:51 PM

Ronda's ring post spots have been great from what I can tell. Near Lesnar level.


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