Yeah, this is what I've heard too. It's basically a philosophical move to remove wrestling from the network. I do think that they thought TNA would bring more eyeballs to their station than what they did, but it doesn't help that Dixie Carter and her clowns are pretty much an embarrassment in everything they do.

Sinclair should sink some money into ROH.

Honestly I hope POP TV gets behind TNA better than DA did. Although like Noid said Dixie does the company no favors. Should reach note homes on POP but really need to promote the show more. Hell if Lucha Underground can buy a commercial slot for Raw why can't TNA.

100% yes. They have a great talent and partnerships around the world. They're moving to COMET on Dec. 2, I don't get that channel but can still get them on syndication. COMET is owned by Sinclair and MGM so if that channel grows it could be good for ROH. Really feel they could do bigger arenas to but not 20,000 seat arenas though. More like a 5,000 seat arena would be great for them and make their TV product better.

They need to promote the show more, but how many people even realize that POP exists? They should promote what they have left, but the company has chased away all the talent that helped lend it an identity, and it's not like people were never aware of TNA. They've pissed away whatever good will existed for it on the internet and have squandered their word of mouth tools.

There's some talk that they want to bring in Goldberg or Rey Mysterio. Both would be big signings, but you have to know what to do with them. Does Goldberg go right after the title? If you put the belt back on EC3 and then have Goldberg come in, does he take the belt or do you stifle him right out the gate?

Rey Mysterio is the easier one to use, because the path with him is really simple -- put the X-Division Title on him and let him "make" Tigre Uno. At the same time, allow him to work AAA so that you can build that goodwill and maybe even be able to pinch talent when you need something fresh. AAA would surely like to get a few of their new crop of guys over too, so the occasional "AAA showcase" in TNA might be worth something to them.

Maybe you can even lock down guys like Johnny Mundo and cross-promote him with Lucha Underground and AAA? TNA might not have enough of a presence to get back on PPV, but maybe joint ventures with AAA in America might work? Okay, I have gone off on a weird tangent here, but I think they need something else, because the "TNA" brand is basically bad news at the moment.

The more I think about the TNA/AAA partnership, the more I think it would benefit both promotions. I mean, Konnan has heat with some personalities in TNA, but that sort of stuff dies down when it needs to. AAA just lost Alberto and Myzteziz. They've been using John Morrison and have done a great job with Brian Cage, but bringing in guys like The American Wolves for a heel stint, or The Hardys to pad out a big show would be so valuable to them right now. I imagine, anyway. I don't really understand the world of lucha. It seems Konnan is pretty open about wanting to "evolve" it though.

Goldberg? Hadn't heard that but with Kurt leaving soon they could use a big name signing about the time of the debut on Pop. Goldburgs return to wrestling could be something worth promoting across different channels and get the word out about Impact on Pop TV.

Goldberg himself has come out and said that TNA made him an offer. I'd say chances of him coming in are higher now that there is a confirmed television deal in place with TNA. I could see him taking a schedule that coincides with the TNA/Pop TV deal. At first I was like "Ugh, what are they even going to do with him?", but the more I think about it, the more options I see for him. A team with Bobby Lashley against EC3 and Tyrus; a cat and mouse program with Bobby Roode; a big singles match against Lashley.

At the end of the day, if the WWE don't say "fuck it" and sign Angle to some sort of deal, then it's very likely Kurt will end up working for TNA again after taking some time off. And truth be told, I could see the bloom being off The Dudleys in WWE and them ending up back in TNA. If Christian isn't satisfied with how his WWE run went and still feels he has some matches left, it's not like he left TNA on bad terms either.

I wouldn't say I am "optimistic" about TNA's future. Most of their problems come internally from not really understanding how professional wrestling should work; but I feel a sort of "rebound" effect about them at the moment. Like they've hit rock bottom and that any direction they go really has to be up, and that could create the illusion of progress.

They should really put someone sane in charge of booking. Or insane in a good way. I know Gertner and I used to share the same idea that Raven being given the book would be interesting. I'd be on board with Kevin Sullivan getting to pick a team of guys to form a creative team, possibly even on rotations so as to keep the ideas fresh (obviously you need a grand vision, but the conclusion of an arc ending with Sullivan taking a few months off in order for Jim Cornette to come back and book a "season", if you will, could keep things energetic).

But given a new creative direction, and in my opinion, allowing a lot of their talent to work shows for PWG, AAA, New Japan or wherever they want to go, might lead to more guys seeing TNA as a viable place to earn some coin. I don't know if AJ Styles would ever consider returning there, but with a different direction and a renewed focus on what he brings to the table, he could be their #1 guy very easily.

I dunno -- I don't see TNA growing too much within their own bubble. I looked over the card for one of Tommy Dreamer's "House of Hardcore" shows recently -- and it used a lot of TNA guys and actually looked really fucking good on paper. There's stuff TNA can do if they stay sensible, but I'd strongly suggest trying to wash off the TNA stink by being the "good guys," and giving independent talent more shine, but at the same time letting them work in their homebase to keep themselves growing. TNA aren't big league enough to survive as a big league. But that's just my opinion.

And sign Chris Hero. Don't know why, but I feel like he'd be awesome in TNA. Let him bring in some guys to work matches with ("Speedball" Mike Bailey) and let him carve out an association with TNA Wrestling.

TNA have kicked Paragon Pro Wrestling off Pop. They could use that as an angle to bring some fresh blood in. No, not a "major" invasion angle, but having the current champions attack a few guys in the carpark could build to something. Jesse Sorsensen is their current Heavyweight Champion, a guy named Darin Corbin (ha) is their American Champion, and their Tag Champs are a really good looking team of a guy that looks like a norse god and a Russian guy that looks like a supermodel.

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I don't know how well he works, but I'd be giving him a look if I were starting up a wrestling company.

He's young too. Like 24.

GFW was apparently looking for a spot on Pop TV too. I would kind of like it if Pop got behind wrestling and gave Amped a spot on their line-up too. Could they afford it? I'm not sure, but the current run is basically paid for anyway, so they might be able to just line up something where they press play and use TNA to advertise GFW and GFW to advertise TNA.

Yeah I checked out PPW when they first came on POP but they were on at like 6 am on Saturdays and didn't set the DVR to record it. Their last episode on POP is tomorrow at 8 am.

That'd be alright, I'm really hoping GFW finds an home before long. I seen where Sonjay Dutt said they already had about 15 episodes recorded so they got something to sell. Could go to WGN after TNA has snubbed them twice.

That's if WGN is interested in them. They do need a spot, but I'm not exactly *enthused* by the product (on paper, of course) that GFW has put out. It feels like a lot of guys randomly out there wrestling. I mean, I love wrestling, and I like the old-school presentation of shows (recently I've been checking out Smoky Mountain Wrestling, and NXT actually falls into that style of booking and formatting), but GFW really feels like a slapped together "If you enjoyed early days TNA" knockoff.

Jarrett was on Jim Cornette's Experience podcast and he was proud of crowning four champions from four different continents. Okay. Cool. But your headline acts are still Magnus and Chris Masters. I'm not knocking those guys, but it just feels like there's no "traction" there. It's a very gentrified and round product at the moment -- there's not enough that's sharp and that clicks.

Yeah I get what your saying and I'll have to actually see the product to judge it but I feel Magnus is a good young talent to build a global company around. I'm not sold on the NEX GEN title name but it is what it is. Just feel like if WGN is willing to give TNA a chance and keep getting rejected why not take a chance on something new and fresh with GFW. Had big hopes when they started signing all those talent agreements but things have been slow since then.

I like Magnus, but I would have gone with Shelton as the first champion and had Magnus chase. But that's subjective.

It's getting to the stage where I think Jarrett should just start putting Amped up on a video sharing site so people can get a feel for the product, they can get the views and use that to point towards any success there when it comes to shopping for a network. I mean, it's pissing away those first shows, but at some point they're going to lose their relevant edge and GFW is going to need to tape more and keep doing shows anyway.

Yeah, should have done Internet PPVs like he did with TNA to start for the first couple of shows. Agree he needs to do something before the years up. If 2016 starts and he still doesn't have a network GFW may be a lost cause by then to fans.

iPPV might have been a good way to start. :y:

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TNA debuts on POP TV tonight. Best of 2015 show.

time for a pop thread dest America is dead

These two weeks are best of, which i assume is 2 hours of dead air.

wasn't last 2 months "best ofs"

No they been doing the World Title Series since Bound for Glory. I guess next week will be another best of 2015 show or something before the live debut on POP.

ROH airs on COMET now. Idon't have it but still get them through syndication.

2 names have been announced fro ROH's Top Prospect Tournament.

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Lio looks like Skate from Streets of Rage series. Action Ortiz looks like Action Bronson shaved his beard and tried to make the CAW equivalent of Bam Bam Bigelow's ring gear. Can't wait!

So Destination America got rid of ROH, too?

Yep, they left before TNA. Went to COMET which is owned by Sinclair. Still in syndication to.

Going to attempt to watch tonight assuming I even get the channel and what time zone it airs in. Only fair after running them into the ground at every opportunity.

Hope they have a good show. EC3 should win the World Title Series. Should have some surprises to.

Tune into TNA on Pop, right after a block of Soap Operas

Wrestling has truly found its home

I really think it's a good spot for them. Wrestling has been called a man's soap opera so it fits with the channel. POP also plays That 70s Show so I like the channel and if TNA does good on there it could be good for he channel too.

TNA got a PandaTron

Wonder if they remember Tyrus is the#1 contender.

Three hour delay for it on the west coast. Don't care that much.

Lol Bobby Rhoode won and they about played Beer Moneys music. Dead give away that Storm was showing up.

Maria!

He lloks like Armanda Alejandro Estrada i that get up

Y2B

While they last. AJ, Gallows, Machine Gun and Shinsuke Nakamura about to sign with WWE.

Sayonara

EC3 still champion

Ok show. Glad EC3 won the title. Mike Bennett could be interesting, don't know if he's a heelor a face but a EC3/Bennett feud could be good.

Based on results, doesn't sound like I missed much. Please confirm.

Yeah, just a basic Impact nothing real special about it.

All that tournament to justify giving Matt Hardy an undeserved title reign just because they were in North Carolina.

EC3 back to being champ like nothing happened.

LOLTNA.

Puts EC3 over more. Makes sense to me, it's not like nothing happened either. EC3 can cheat to win but if you cheat to beat him he has the power to fix it, plus he won the tournament so it puts him over pretty well. Now the lolTNA moment will be if they forget that Tyrus is the #1 contender.

You missed Maria in borderline unwatchable standard definition

SD Dixie didn't do ANYTHING for me. WTH

First time seeing Eli Drake, seems to be a good promo cooking

Yeah I like Eli Drake but don't really know what they are going for with him. Seems very similar to Mr. Anderson's character without the intro and stuff. Don't even know if Mr. Anderson's still on the roster really.

Poop TV has to go HD or else I won't stick around for it. I'm trying to give TNA a chance this year. Really like a lot of the talent they have there.


Cringeworthy moment of the night was hearing "CREATURES" during the Hardy theme. I'm sure people with Pacemakers there died when that went off

Overall not a bad show, my "issue" on this show was less about the wresting, and more about the production side of thing. Multiple times people fumbled over their lines, Dixie, Jesse Goderz, and of course, Bram saying "2006" is going to be his year. There were a couple of misques on the music, anybody else notice the Beer Money theme start after Roode beat Bram?
On the plus side, I really liked Eli Drake's promo as well as Mike Bennetts. It may of just been me, but Jade really shined in that Knockout's match. The matches themselves were pretty good, that piledriver from EY looked disgusting. It seems like if TNA can "fix the little things" they can become a serious number 2.... but then again that's been said about TNA for years :-\

That mishap with BRAM could actually put him over if they let him ride that gimmick of being confused about what year he's in, slow pan into his face and then end the segment

Bennett and Maria still on ROH to for awhile. Next week's main event is The Young Bucks vs Red Dragon vs The Kingdom in a street fight.

Not that much longer, that's the final match they did for ROH.

Thought the Kingdom was going to break up this week but they should next week unless they just kick out Maria and Bennett. ROH has some great tag teams though so it won t hurt them to bad.

Why would ROH get rid of Maira?

Think it was Maria and Bennett's decision and TNA might have offered them more money.

Bram Truth?

I watched earlier in the week, maybe my expectations were too high. Not at all taken with the idea of Beer Money getting back together, and whilst the arrival of Bennett is welcome, there was rumour they'd end up in WWE/NXT and I'd probably have preferred that.

EC3 as champ is cool but it basically resets things to where they were 2 months ago.

More announced for ROH Top Prospect Tounament
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Shaheem Ali

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Knockouts street fight on Pop.

Like the Eric Young/Bram pairing so far.

Gabi from Tough Enough is TNAs newest Knockout. Raquel, had a vignette this week dont know when she will debut.

I guess 10th place is good enough for the 5th worst wrestling company around.

TNA Title spolier

Hate that they took the title off EC3 so quick but they really did a good job doing it. Turning EC3 face might be a good choice. Still made him look strong in defeat though. Heel Matt Hardys alright.

Basically starting EC3's face turn. Matt pulled out all kinds of heel tatics to try and win (low blow, Reby handed him a hammer to use) then Tyrus turned on EC3. Matt hit him with the title, won and announced its the era of Big Money Matt. Pretty good Last Man Standing match though.

Hmmm ok it makes sense :y:

It's not a bad idea for them to turn him face. He's extremely charismatic, and they have a few potential "main event heels" in the future (Eli Drake, Bram, Jessie Godderz, Mike Bennett) and the only really strong face they have right now is Drew Galloway. It wouldn't be bad to build a second one, now

Knew he would turn face eventually and I like how they did it. The Hardys contracts are up in February and giving him the title might be some insensitive to resign with them. Big Money Matt seems like it could be a good gimmick for him. Dont know if they have forgot about Tyrus being # 1 contender or not, EC3 mentioned it but I dont see Tyrus faceing Matt after he joined him.

Heel Matt Hardy works in theory. Babyface Matt is a bit dry at this point, but I can buy a Hardy clinging to relevance by aligning with a powerhouse and basically screwing over the younger, cooler guy -- the guy that Matt Hardy used to be.

I see the WWE snapping up The Hardys in February if their contracts are up. The WWE are going to want to stack WrestleMania.

Hmm, I HOPE they keep them around past Feb, it would seem really rushed to have Matt lose the title again a month after winning it (and make EC3 a three time champ in less than a year). It looks like they want to do Matt vs Jeff first (with Jeff being the face) and eventually turn it into Heel Matt vs Face EC3 after that. I ASSUME EC3 gets the belt back then, and he moves on to a feud with Mike Bennett (after that little rendezvous backstage last week) and etc, etc from there....

Yeah and you can have EC3 and Tyrus while they work out tge Jeff/Matt situation. Maybe even have it be if EC3 beats Tyrus he looses his championship opportunity that he won back at BFG.

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We may not of been at TNA, but I told him if he needed a new bodyguard....

Hell yeah thats way cool. Way to go with them high fives.

Thanks, did a tag match with him for a local show. Great guy, great match, he gave me the rub. The best part.... someone (we'll just call them a "smark") asked him after the show, when are you going to NXT? He didn't necessarily shit on he guy (which I probably would haveif I washim) but he pretty much said don't believe everything you read. He said TNA pays him really well/ treats him right, the company is steadily progressing. He said, he's a star on a national product... why would he go anywhere else?

Yeah, TNA has done a tremendous job building him up and with his babyface turn there is no doubt he'll be the face of that company going forward. One of my favorite wrestlers right now.

You kind of remind me of rock star Cesaro for some reason. That's a good thing.

I could see Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy vs. EC3 down the line. The plan should be to move the title on EC3 and have Mike Bennett built up and ready to go.

Really like what TNA has done with the main event and the women. The tag divison is a little dry as its the Wolves and Beer Money as the only two legitimate teams. I like the Bram/EY pairing but dont think it will be any thing long term. Dont like the Jesse/Eli Drake pairng though. Hate the King of the Mountian Championship and wish it was still simply the TNA Television Championship but it is what it is. Feel like the X Division gets the most over looked and is pretty much a cruiserweight title now. I think Mohabali Sheria/Koya (not sure about thst spelling) would be great for the X Divison and used kind of like a Samoa Joe type character.

Cesaro was one of/ if not the coolest person I met when I did my "15 mins" with the WWE last year.

That is so cool.

ROH Top Prospect tournament starts this week. Supposedly this guy trained Sascha Banks

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He won his first round match against Shameem Ali.

Really dont like Kyle O'Reilly being in the main event for ROH 14th Anniversary show. Lethal vs Adam Cole vs Kyle O'Reilly for the ROH World Championship. Hope either Cole or Lethal win. Dont really like Red Dragon as a tag team but woukd raher them stat as a team than go into singles competition

Well, here's to Brian Fury winning the thing.

Jeff Hardy has resigned with TNA.

Glad he retired.

lol Tyrus carring Matt and Reby's baby to the ring.

Feast or Fired

Grado definitely got the fired case, I hope.

Drew Galloway, Eli Drake, and James Storm grab the remaining cases.

Not sure whats in the cases necessarily, I know one is fired and one is a World title shot, ones a Tag team title shot but Pope and Mathews were talking about their being a King of the Mountian case so I dont know if their is a X division case. Will find out later at the reveal I guess.

Gregory Helms vs Tigre Uno might be pretty good. Havent seen Helms wrestle in a while though.

Crazy Steve and Abyss seems like a intriguing team. Definitely the best use of Crazy Steve since he got to TNA. Dont know who this chick is though.