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TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 3902534)
We've had a recent influx of trolls. I think it's hardened us on mistrusting newbies as of late. If you're not Iop/Pretty Cool then welcome to TPWW.

Yeah,,, the troll is you ,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 03:40 AM

Where is WWE headed you ask,,,,,???

heading to 0.5 ratings because they put out a horrible wrestling show,,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 03:45 AM

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owenbrown 06-23-2012 03:56 AM

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owenbrown 06-23-2012 03:57 AM

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TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 3902548)

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OWNED,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 3902549)

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OWNED,,,

owenbrown 06-23-2012 04:00 AM

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TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 3902554)
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OWNED,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 04:11 AM

YOU RACE TO WIN THE CUP,, ANY NASCAR FAN KNOWS,,,,,, LOOK AT MARK MARTIN,,, look at Ricky Rudd,,, nothing without the cup,,, and JR WILL WIN the cup

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 04:16 AM

-4 POINTS FROM THE LEAD,,,,,, jr the man go #88,,, JUNIOR NATION IS HERE GOGOGO green flag,,,, ladys and gentleman start ur engines

Rick Hendrick broke the news to Steve Letarte at around 3 o'clock in the afternoon in late November of 2010. About 15 minutes after being told that he would henceforth be overseeing the No. 88 team of NASCAR's most popular driver, Letarte was in his car, on his way to Dale Earnhardt Jr.'s house. Even though they had worked under the same roof for three years to that point, the crew chief introduced himself as if they had never met.
"We started with a blank sheet of paper," Letarte remembered. "We didn't take any preconceived notions of what Dale's strengths or weaknesses were. I personally didn't listen to anybody else's opinions on Dale. I learned a lot from Mr. Hendrick on how to deal with people and with relationships, and the most important thing is to create your own relationship firsthand. Dale and I did that."
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When you go to the shop and watch him kind of work, you can see how this team is as good as it is.


-- DALE EARNARDT JR.


_______________________


Not everyone could have gone up there and sat down with Dale and said, 'Look, this is the way it's going to be.'


-- RICK HENDRICK


And so began the relationship that would help transform Earnhardt, slowly at first, from the black sheep of a dominant Hendrick Motorsports franchise to arguably the organization's top championship contender this season. Make no mistake, it was Earnhardt's name attached to that epic 143-race winless streak, which saddled him for more than four years. It was Earnhardt's name on the trophy that ultimately snapped the skid this past Sunday at Michigan International Speedway. But the road to that moment began in late 2010, directly on the heels of a second consecutive rotten season for the No. 88 team, when Hendrick shuffled his personnel and paired Earnhardt with a crew chief who proved capable of turning everything around.
Sunday was Earnhardt's moment and Earnhardt's triumph, clearly. But it was made possible in large part because of Letarte, who took plenty of grief as Jeff Gordon's crew chief during that near-miss championship season of 2007, who even a week earlier at Pocono had drawn some raised eyebrows with an unpopular but necessary call to pit for fuel in the waning laps. For crew chiefs, that kind of second-guessing comes with waking up in the morning. None of that changes the indisputable fact that Letarte has been perhaps the singular catalyst in the rebuilding of both a program and a driver, that he instilled confidence, belief and professionalism within Earnhardt from almost the moment of his arrival, that over time he built cars capable of dominating a race just like they did at Michigan.
"He's hard to compliment, because he doesn't take it very well. But him and that team, they can have all the credit -- my engineers and Steve sit in that lounge every weekend and make the car go. You know, they make it turn. They make it whatever I want it to do. If I ask them, you know, this is my problem and this is where we are hurting, they get together and they fix it," Earnhardt said after the drought-buster in the Irish Hills.
"I just trust that he's looking out for, not for the best interests of just me. He looks out for the entire team and puts great people around himself to be able to do the job right. We have a good group. ... When you go to the shop and watch him kind of work, you can see how this team is as good as it is just by being in the shop and watching him sort of dictate and move pieces around like on a chessboard. He's really sharp."
Letarte brought with him so many things Earnhardt needed. The cars have been solid from almost day one, turning a variable into a constant, even if it took until Sunday to burst through the dam. He came in with a reputation for being able to keep his driver focused and upbeat in the car, able to head off episodes like the one Earnhardt suffered at New Hampshire in 2008, when he nearly melted down over a set of poorly matched tires and required Hendrick to come over the radio to talk him off the ledge. At the same time, Letarte began to demand things of Earnhardt that no other crew chief ever had. Fill out post-race reports. Attend meetings. Be ready to get to the track early, and stay there late.
That's the way the great Ray Evernham did it at Hendrick, the way Letarte and colleague Chad Knaus learned it. For all the support he offers over the radio, Letarte has a stern side to him, too. "Stevie, he can be extremely funny, and in a nanosecond he's very serious," Hendrick said. Earnhardt needed a little of a taskmaster; his first crew chief at Hendrick, Tony Eury Jr., was also his cousin, and it was difficult for the two to see each other as anything else. Earnhardt never really responded to Eury's successor, Lance McGrew. Enter Letarte, who brought with him a track record of winning races a certain way. Earnhardt bought into it.
"This is how this building has always operated," Letarte said, referring to the Hendrick organization. "It operated that way when Ray was here. I think Chad and I learned a lot from him, how he ran his race team. There are expectations set forth for every employee whether you're the tire man, engineer, engine man or the driver. The driver isn't a subcontractor, he's a team member. When you become a team member of the 88, you're expected to carry your end of the ship. That is not only the hard work you put in, but there's certain expectations and certain things needed. For the engineers to do their jobs as needed, certain times be available, certain expectations to come post race. I can't say enough about it. I think those expectations were laid out. They've been met 110 percent."
"Not everyone could have gone up there and sat down with Dale and said, 'Look, this is the way it's going to be, this is the way you have to show up,' " Hendrick added. "Stevie has a unique way of putting his arm around him and saying, 'Look, Bubba, we're in this together. Together we're going to do this. This is what I'm going to do, this is what I need you to do.' Dale felt comfortable and trusted Stevie. I don't think Stevie gets near the credit he deserves for getting Dale to feel all the things that Dale has to feel to be successful and be comfortable with the guys. To go from doubting what he had to feeling like he has the best in the garage, that's a tremendous job. I think it's probably the hardest job out there. So I just don't think Stevie gets near enough credit for what he's accomplished."
It was all made through much more than just meetings and tough love, though. Hendrick said Letarte worked hard to create a bond with Earnhardt, who doesn't let everyone in. The two traveled to test sessions together, flew to Las Vegas together to pick up Earnhardt's Most Popular Driver award a week after they were paired up. They took a methodical approach, one of improvement by degrees rather than leaps and bounds, and they became frustrated at times when they wanted it to happen more quickly than it did. But eventually it did happen, and now Earnhardt has a victory and is second in the championship standings, thanks in large part to a crew chief who figured out how to make NASCAR's most popular driver a winner once again.
"We use that word a lot, 'trust.' But Dale does not trust everybody," Hendrick said. "He doesn't think sometimes that he's taken in the right light. You see that more when his confidence isn't there. But when his confidence is switched on, I mean, he's convinced and he knows he's got the best in the garage. He believes that. He believes he's got the best crew chief and the best team. He believes this is what he's needed. Chemistry is so important. Sometimes, you never hit the right combination. But, man, I look back and I think we're very fortunate. Didn't have any idea it was going to be this good. But I think that the chemistry between these two guys, and I've been doing this for 30 years, is as good as or better than any I've ever seen."

owenbrown 06-23-2012 04:18 AM

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owenbrown 06-23-2012 04:21 AM

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TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 04:21 AM

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TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 3902564)
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TRADITION OWNED,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 04:29 AM

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Heisenberg 06-23-2012 04:30 AM

Posting Russo propaganda should be banned from these forums, this guy is totally on another level of fail.

It's not even funny or informative. What's funny is that you actually believe the words you type in to these posts.

owenbrown 06-23-2012 04:32 AM

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TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dethklokface (Post 3902569)
Posting Russo propaganda should be banned from these forums, this guy is totally on another level of fail.

It's not even funny or informative. What's funny is that you actually believe the words you type in to these posts.

Funny that I "get it" and know how to make wrestling succesful when 99% the internet is brainwashed by meltzer and dont know jack,,,, funny that I aint stuck in the wrasslin bubble and think its real,,, sorry im not a rohbot and wwe fan boy lololol but the only person you need to feel sorry for is you traditionalists who have ruined the business,,, RUSSO OWNZ U

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 3902570)
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OWNED,,,,,,,,

Heisenberg 06-23-2012 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AntiTradition (Post 3902571)
Funny that I "get it" and know how to make wrestling succesful when 99% the internet is brainwashed by meltzer and dont know jack,,,, funny that I aint stuck in the wrasslin bubble and think its real,,, sorry im not a rohbot and wwe fan boy lololol but the only person you need to feel sorry for is you traditionalists who have ruined the business,,, RUSSO OWNZ U

I'm sorry if you can't make out what is trying to be said in general response to all your posts, but honestly we aren't what you accuse us to be. We are fuckin' wrestling fans. Wrestling brings family and friends and even half-minded simpletons like you together for entertainment.

We are here to discuss current and past kickass moments and memories of our favorite superstars, and also discuss the future. What you will post before, now, and in the future will be laughed at and frowned upon, hell you might get famous for one minute in your life. That has to feel good on your brain.

My main point is that I'm going to be either ridiculed for entertaining your posts(obviously you're trolling, because no one would carry on in real life in Vince Russo's buttocks), or triumphed for putting down a freaking idiot who comes into these beloved forums and bashes us for liking WWE/ROH/TNA.

owenbrown 06-23-2012 04:46 AM

Does Dave Meltzer even know or even CARE who the fuck you are, TNA(P)RICK?! Get off of his nuts.

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dethklokface (Post 3902574)
I'm sorry if you can't make out what is trying to be said in general response to all your posts, but honestly we aren't what you accuse us to be. We are fuckin' wrestling fans. Wrestling brings family and friends and even half-minded simpletons like you together for entertainment.

We are here to discuss current and past kickass moments and memories of our favorite superstars, and also discuss the future. What you will post before, now, and in the future will be laughed at and frowned upon, hell you might get famous for one minute in your life. That has to feel good on your brain.

My main point is that I'm going to be either ridiculed for entertaining your posts(obviously you're trolling, because no one would carry on in real life in Vince Russo's buttocks), or triumphed for putting down a freaking idiot who comes into these beloved forums and bashes us for liking WWE/ROH/TNA.


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Originally Posted by Dethklokface (Post 3902569)
Posting Russo propaganda should be banned from these forums, this guy is totally on another level of fail.

It's not even funny or informative. What's funny is that you actually believe the words you type in to these posts.


Make up your mind,,,,,,, I would love to be entertained in wrestling in the future too but the people running the business have no idea what they are doing and continue to cater to u internet traditionalists and giving lame storylines and gimmicks and keeping the traditionalist mentality,,, and the product will never grow this way and ratings will continue to decline,,,,, sry bud but I come with the facts and they piss u off so bad,,, that you resort to these insults against me,,, call me troll call me sock (whatever the f--- that means) ,,,, I DONT GIVE A F--- IM THE REALEST POSTER HERE,,,, what dont u get about that,,,,,, I dont sit back and read the wrestling observer ,,, i dont sit and stop watch the time minutes of wrestling on a show,,, i dont get mad over wrasslers winning and losing fake title belts,,,,,,, and i dont come up with new gimmick for wrassler "make him a intense wrestler #43344369022 " you dont have a f---ing clue about what works in wrestling and you are the reason its in the shape it is today,,, CONGRATS U KILLED THE BUSINESS

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 3902577)
Does Dave Meltzer even know or even CARE who the fuck you are, TNA(P)RICK?! Get off of his nuts.

Send good ol dave a email or call him sometime,,, he will have plenty to say about me,, he has been trying to stop me from speaking the truth for years and has attempted to have me arrested on numerous occasions,,, Daves a piece of filth liar scumbag like cornette,,, sry to burst ya bubble

Heisenberg 06-23-2012 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AntiTradition (Post 3902579)
Make up your mind,,,,,,, I would love to be entertained in wrestling in the future too but the people running the business have no idea what they are doing and continue to cater to u internet traditionalists and giving lame storylines and gimmicks and keeping the traditionalist mentality,,, and the product will never grow this way and ratings will continue to decline,,,,, sry bud but I come with the facts and they piss u off so bad,,, that you resort to these insults against me,,, call me troll call me sock (whatever the f--- that means) ,,,, I DONT GIVE A F--- IM THE REALEST POSTER HERE,,,, what dont u get about that,,,,,, I dont sit back and read the wrestling observer ,,, i dont sit and stop watch the time minutes of wrestling on a show,,, i dont get mad over wrasslers winning and losing fake title belts,,,,,,, and i dont come up with new gimmick for wrassler "make him a intense wrestler #43344369022 " you dont have a f---ing clue about what works in wrestling and you are the reason its in the shape it is today,,, CONGRATS U KILLED THE BUSINESS

FEED ME! FEED ME MORE COMMAS!!!! **Ryback**

COMMA HIM!!!

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#1-norm-fan 06-23-2012 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AntiTradition (Post 3902550)
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OWNED,,,

HAH!!!

I actually did look at the ratings.

The Benoit vs Bret Nitro got a 2.9 rating, not a 2.6. Now, he could have been referencing the week after that match, in which case, he should get his facts straight. Not really my problem. Whether he got those two weeks mixed up is irrelevant however to most of the upcoming Vince Russo stupidity I am about to unleash.

So, it went up .6 in that three months. Which is good for Russo... until you actually look at the fact that ONE month before Benoit vs Bret, Nitro got a 4.1 rating....

So Russo took over after a bad week for 3 months (Of course he'll ignore that it happened to be a worse than usual week considering the rating a month earlier was better than anything in the upcoming 3 months that he was responsible for).

During Russo's 3 months, the highest rating was that 3.4. The lowest? 2.8... that was 2 months into his "reign of excellence". Oh, and if you don't wanna do the math, that's also lower than that pitiful 2.9 that the Benoit-Bret Nitro got before he came in to save the day.

So Russo leaves for 3 months. When he is asked to come back, the rating is "back" at 2.5. That would be the 4/17 Nitro. Of course he fails to mention that the week before that, the rating was 3.1. And the highest rating during that Russo-less 3 months? It came a month after Russo went home... 3.6. That's right. .2 points higher than the highest rating during that three months WITH Russo.

Man, when you just say the things that help your case and leave out the details, it is REALLY easy to skew things in your favor.

Sources:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2nskfq.jpg

http://www.twnpnews.com/information/WCW/wcwnitro.shtml

http://cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=4310

owenbrown 06-23-2012 04:58 AM

where's your proof that Meltzer is stopping you from doing anything... and if he is trying to have you arrested it means you are probably stalking him like the creeper you are

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3902582)
HAH!!!

I actually did look at the ratings.

The Benoit vs Bret Nitro got a 2.9 rating, not a 2.6. Now, he could have been referencing the week after that match, in which case, he should get his facts straight. Not really my problem. Whether he got those two weeks mixed up is irrelevant however to most of the upcoming Vince Russo stupidity I am about to unleash.

So, it went up .6 in that three months. Which is good for Russo... until you actually look at the fact that ONE month before Benoit vs Bret, Nitro got a 4.1 rating....

So Russo took over after a bad week for 3 months (Of course he'll ignore that it happened to be a worse than usual week considering the rating a month earlier was better than anything in the upcoming 3 months that he was responsible for).

During Russo's 3 months, the highest rating was that 3.4. The lowest? 2.8... that was 2 months into his "reign of excellence". Oh, and if you don't wanna do the math, that's also lower than that pitiful 2.9 that the Benoit-Bret Nitro got before he came in to save the day.

So Russo leaves for 3 months. When he is asked to come back, the rating is "back" at 2.5. That would be the 4/17 Nitro. Of course he fails to mention that the week before that, the rating was 3.1. And the highest rating during that Russo-less 3 months? It came a month after Russo went home... 3.6. That's right. .2 points higher than the highest rating during that three months WITH Russo.

Man, when you just say the things that help your case and leave out the details, it is REALLY easy to skew things in your favor.

Sources:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2nskfq.jpg

http://www.twnpnews.com/information/WCW/wcwnitro.shtml

http://cagematch.net/?id=1&nr=4310

Nice try to try and twist the facts,,, not working pal anyone with a brain can go look up the ratings their selves

#1-norm-fan 06-23-2012 05:08 AM

Yeah, those facts with actual sources that make your hero out to be the lying dipshit that he is are a bitch to argue aren't they?

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:10 AM

GO LOOK AT YOUR OWN SOURCES,,, every time russo would leave after his 3 month stints the ratings would fall,, are you really that f---ing dumb that you cannot even read out of your own sources,, he said the truth in his interview u just are too much of a moron to understand the ratings when they are wrote down right in front of u,,,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:12 AM

<table border="5" cellpadding="4" height="6269"><tbody><tr><td align="center" height="20">12/18/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.3 (2.5/2.0)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">12/11/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">1.7 (1.5/1.9)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">12/4/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.5 (2.6/2.3)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">11/27/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.4 (2.6/2.2)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">11/20/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.3 (2.6/2.0)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">11/13/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.6 (2.9/2.2)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">11/06/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.5 (2.4/2.6)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">10/30/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.5 (2.9/2.1)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">10/23/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.2 (2.7/1.8)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">10/16/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.2 (2.7/1.9)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">10/9/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.5 (3.1/1.9)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">10/2/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.6 (3.1/2.2)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">9/25/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.9 (3.2/2.5)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">9/18/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.8 (3.2/2.3)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">9/11/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">3.2 (3.4/2.9)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">9/04/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">3.6 (3.2/4.0)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">8/28/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">3.5 (3.1/4.0)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">8/21/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.6 (2.8/2.4)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">8/14/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.4 (2.7/2.1)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">8/7/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.5 (2.7/2.2)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">7/31/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.3 (3.0/2.3)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">7/24/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.8 (3.0/2.6)</td> </tr> <tr><td align="center" height="20">7/17/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.4 (2.0/2.7)</td> </tr><tr> <td align="center" height="20">7/10/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.4 (3.1/2.1)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">7/3/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.3 (2.6/1.9)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">6/26/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.8 (3.2/2.4)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">6/19/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.7(2.9/2.5)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">6/12/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">3.0(3.2,2.8)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">6/5/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.8(3.1,2.6)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">5/29/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">3.0(3.2/2.7)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">5/22/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">3.0(2.1/4.0)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">5/15/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">3.2(3.4/2.9)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">5/8/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.8(2.9/2.7)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">5/1/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.5(2.6/2.3)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">4/24/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">3.1(3.7/2.4)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">4/17/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.5(2.9/2.1)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">4/10/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">3.1(3.6/2.6)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">4/3/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">1.8(2.3/1.3)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">3/27/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.6(3.1,2.1)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">3/20/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.5(2.9,2.1)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">3/13/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.6(2.9,2.2)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">3/6/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.8(3.0,2.5)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">2/28/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.6(3.0,2.2)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">2/21/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">2.8(3.2,2.3)</td> </tr> <tr> <td align="center" height="20">2/14/00</td> <td align="center" height="20">3.6(3.0,4.0,3.8)</td></tr></tbody></table>

owenbrown 06-23-2012 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3902591)
Yeah, those facts with actual sources that make your hero out to be the lying dipshit that he is are a bitch to argue aren't they?

[/thread]

#1-norm-fan 06-23-2012 05:17 AM

I would quote in my original post where I give clear details as to how the ratings were actually higher at times during his 3 month absence than they were with him there or how he completely gets the rating wrong for the Benoit-Bret Nitro but... Jesus Fucking Christ, are you really that deep in "LALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALALALA!" to read numbers?

Razzamajazz 06-23-2012 05:19 AM

wtf @ this thread

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:20 AM

Oh your mad I just proved you wrong so you try to twist the numbers when they are RIGHT THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE,,,, my f------ lord

Heisenberg 06-23-2012 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3902599)
I would quote in my original post where I give clear details as to how the ratings were actually higher at times during his 3 month absence than they were with him there or how he completely gets the rating wrong for the Benoit-Bret Nitro but... Jesus Fucking Christ, are you really that deep in "LALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING LALALALALALA!" to read numbers?

He's clearly self-absorbed in his gimmick of being a Russo lackey. This type of behavior would of flew in the sinking ship days of a Russo led wCw.

#1-norm-fan 06-23-2012 05:28 AM

I'm gonna try simplifying this for you because I seriously feel like you're just too slow to comprehend everything I've said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3902582)
The Benoit vs Bret Nitro got a 2.9 rating, not a 2.6...

Bret vs Benoit was on 10/4/99. The rating for that Nitro was 2.9. Not 2.6 like Russo said in the interview you posted.

Am I wrong so far? Feel free to point it out. I'll wait to move on to my next point to make sure you're grasping this first bit.

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:28 AM

LMFAO,,, I JUST PROVED YOU WRONG and you guys are still acting like you are right,,, Look at the god dang ratings for f--- sakes are you that blinded by meltzer,,, I swear,,,,,,,

Hey while your at it take a look at the WCW THUNDER ratings

http://www.twnpnews.com/information/WCW/thunder.shtml

LMFAO owned u again,,, getting tired of getting owned by Russo? Then quit your troll s--- and open your god da-m eyes . Swear to f----ing god ,,,,, you roh wwe botz make me so sick to my stomach

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3902605)
I'm gonna try simplifying this for you because I seriously feel like you're just too slow to comprehend everything I've said.



Bret vs Benoit was on 10/4/99. The rating for that Nitro was 2.9. Not 2.6 like Russo said in the interview you posted.

Am I wrong so far? Feel free to point it out. I'll wait to move on to my next point to make sure you're grasping this first bit.

What is your point about him mixing up a week date on a rating in a interview YEARS AND YEARS after it happened MY FUC-ING GOD what the f--- why are you going on and on about him mixing up a date ,,, READ THE RATINGS EVERYTIME IN HIS 3 MONTH STINTS THEY WOULD RISE THEN WHEN HE WOULD LEAVE THEY WOULD PLUMMET,,

owenbrown 06-23-2012 05:32 AM

Funny, how after the whole "reboot" angle where all the titles were held up on April 10, 2000, until the end of August, 2000, Raw was still getting 6's and 7's in the ratings while Nitro was struggling to make 3 in the ratings

#1-norm-fan 06-23-2012 05:33 AM

Alright, so we've got that out of the way. The rating for that episode was a 2.9. We're making progress...

NOW...

Quote:

During Russo's 3 months, the highest rating was that 3.4. The lowest? 2.8... that was 2 months into his "reign of excellence". Oh, and if you don't wanna do the math, that's also lower than that pitiful 2.9 that the Benoit-Bret Nitro got before he came in to save the day.
Now... do you comprehend this part? Am I wrong?

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 3902610)
Funny, how after the whole "reboot" angle where all the titles were held up on April 10, 2000, until the end of August, 2000, Raw was still getting 6's and 7's in the ratings while Nitro was struggling to make 3 in the ratings

Funny how the WWF was still riding the wave of RUSSO CREATED CHARACTERS and just brought back SCSA who Russo created ,,,,,, and now look at the WWE HAHAHA LMFAO name all the SCSA great moments after Russo left,,, haha oh yeah they could never come up with anything for him to do since and he became just another stale guy,,,,,,

Name the mega stars WWE have created since Russo left,,, oh ya u cant do that either cuz there are none,,,,,

RUSSO MADE ROCK UNDERTAKER SCSA MICKFOLEY DX VINCE MCMAHON,,,,,

Heisenberg 06-23-2012 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntiTradition (Post 3902606)
LMFAO,,, I JUST PROVED YOU WRONG and you guys are still acting like you are right,,, Look at the god dang ratings for f--- sakes are you that blinded by meltzer,,, I swear,,,,,,,

Hey while your at it take a look at the WCW THUNDER ratings

http://www.twnpnews.com/information/WCW/thunder.shtml

LMFAO owned u again,,, getting tired of getting owned by Russo? Then quit your troll s--- and open your god da-m eyes . Swear to f----ing god ,,,,, you roh wwe botz make me so sick to my stomach

Your accusations and commas are amusing. You spit off the same crap in every post, and still think you are getting heat and exposure for yourself. The only person that can comprehend your posts are yourself, so congratulate yourself, treat yourself, take the Poster lady in your sig out for a nice dinner and then continue to keep your troll shit in your own sick twisted world.

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3902611)
Alright, so we've got that out of the way. The rating for that episode was a 2.9. We're making progress...

NOW...



Now... do you comprehend this part? Am I wrong?


HEY DO THE MATH AND LOOK AT HOW THE RATINGS WERE UP WHEN RUSSO WAS THERE AND THEN LOOK WHERE THEY WENT WHEN HE LEFT,,,,, :y:

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dethklokface (Post 3902615)
Your accusations and commas are amusing. You spit off the same crap in every post, and still think you are getting heat and exposure for yourself. The only person that can comprehend your posts are yourself, so congratulate yourself, treat yourself, take the Poster lady in your sig out for a nice dinner and then continue to keep your troll shit in your own sick twisted world.

You are a attention seeking pimple on meltzers a-- gtfo ,,,,,,,

#1-norm-fan 06-23-2012 05:38 AM

... Are you saying I'm wrong on this point then?

I'm really trying to go slow so you can grasp these simple concepts. lol

#1-norm-fan 06-23-2012 05:40 AM

Let's try again...

Quote:

During Russo's 3 months, the highest rating was that 3.4. The lowest? 2.8... that was 2 months into his "reign of excellence". Oh, and if you don't wanna do the math, that's also lower than that pitiful 2.9 that the Benoit-Bret Nitro got before he came in to save the day.
Seriously. If I'm wrong, feel free to say so. If not, feel free to continue to evade the facts and live in your own little world.

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:41 AM

Yes you are wrong you are not looking at the ratings,,,,, you are trying to spin one off numbers into bulls--t that they arnt,,,,,,, im telling you to look at the months and look at the big picture in the ratings,,, and also go look at the WCW Thunder ratings,,, its clear as daylight but u just seem to want to argue over something even though in your mind you know your wrong,,, its very frustrating for me man,,,,,

sry for calling you a moron earlier ive just met so many people like yourself who just seem to read what they want to read and not actually look at the ratings it amazes me ,,,,

and do not forget Russo wrote 3 months at 3 seperate times,,, the last because he had to go home with concussion,,,

#1-norm-fan 06-23-2012 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3902621)
What does any of this have to do with being a good announcer!?

I have no idea. I was just skimming through and saw the Russo video and decided to call out the bullshit that followed.

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3902624)
I have no idea. I was just skimming through and saw the Russo video and decided to call out the bullshit that followed.


More like you got called out on your bull--- dude,,,

Heisenberg 06-23-2012 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntiTradition (Post 3902617)
You are a attention seeking pimple on meltzers a-- gtfo ,,,,,,,

Where'd you go to school? The Toilet Store? You make no damn sense, as far as I'm concerned, I'm part of the Troll Patrol here to escort your ass back to Russo Town where you guys can sit and watch VHS tapes of your golden days of David Arquette title reigns.

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3902621)
What does any of this have to do with being a good announcer!?


Well lets see I posted a interesting video of a good announcer Mark Madden getting beat up by Tank Abbott,, then the troll OwenBrown wanted to derail the thread with a picture of the death wcw book,,,, ok there ya go

#1-norm-fan 06-23-2012 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntiTradition (Post 3902623)
Yes you are wrong you are not looking at the ratings,,,

And with this, there is nothing I can do. I literally stated a fact with the ratings laid out to back them up and your response is "You're wrong". What I said is not subjective. If you look at the ratings I pointed out, it's right there. It's hard to get big picture when you ignore clear facts that are right there for you to see.

Russo chose to pick three ratings numbers to say "I improved ratings". I'm going much MUCH bigger picture while still using his own method.

But like I said, if you're denying objective facts, then you're beyond help. It's literally as if I'm saying "The sky is blue. Just look up." and your response is "No it isn't!"

owenbrown 06-23-2012 05:50 AM

It's one big giant Russo mark thinking he is God

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 3902632)
Mark Madden sucked and Tank Abbott should have never been in WCW

Ladies and gentlemen we have the troll ,,,,,,,,,,,

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/XUmmcHtywbI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

#1-norm-fan 06-23-2012 06:35 AM

I may be very gullible. I understand AntiTradition is probably not a real person. But there's always that chance...

taker707 06-23-2012 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntiTradition (Post 3902614)
Funny how the WWF was still riding the wave of RUSSO CREATED CHARACTERS and just brought back SCSA who Russo created ,,,,,, and now look at the WWE HAHAHA LMFAO name all the SCSA great moments after Russo left,,, haha oh yeah they could never come up with anything for him to do since and he became just another stale guy,,,,,,

Name the mega stars WWE have created since Russo left,,, oh ya u cant do that either cuz there are none,,,,,

RUSSO MADE ROCK UNDERTAKER SCSA MICKFOLEY DX VINCE MCMAHON,,,,,

Your kidding right? Vince Russo made Vince Mcmahon?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/6vxiQ9JCKvE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

taker707 06-23-2012 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntiTradition (Post 3902614)
Funny how the WWF was still riding the wave of RUSSO CREATED CHARACTERS and just brought back SCSA who Russo created ,,,,,, and now look at the WWE HAHAHA LMFAO name all the SCSA great moments after Russo left,,, haha oh yeah they could never come up with anything for him to do since and he became just another stale guy,,,,,,

Name the mega stars WWE have created since Russo left,,, oh ya u cant do that either cuz there are none,,,,,

RUSSO MADE ROCK UNDERTAKER SCSA MICKFOLEY DX VINCE MCMAHON,,,,,

Mega Stars WWE has created without Vince Russo. How bout Cena, HHH,HBK,Hulk Hogan,Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio , Jericho, Randy Savage. To name a few. Im a defender of TNA But not of Russo. Russo is Crap.

Krow 06-23-2012 07:25 AM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5...f1i8o1_500.gif

Gertner 06-23-2012 07:53 AM

If Russo got AIDS I'd feel sorry for the virus.


That's how God awful he is.

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 10:34 AM

NASCAR IS A REAL SPORT,,,, unlike wrestling

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 12:44 PM

Yo supreme,,, wat up bro,,, ignore these guys they are just trolling I dont pay no attention to them,,, keep up the good work and lets clean these guys off the board!

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 12:50 PM

Why do people still care about this poll,,,, it means nothing and is rigged,,, people are voting with multiple accounts the whole thing was a good idea but turned out horrible,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 01:01 PM

WWF/E went from 7.0 to 3.0 ratings,,, why would u have any doubt in your mind that they wont be down to .05 in a few more years,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 01:23 PM

Women shouldnt have a division,,, they should be used as eye candy and if needed to wrestle put in interesting gimmick matches,,,, so voted no

Wehttam 06-23-2012 04:47 PM

hahahaha i love how he said vickie venom died even though it is obvious she left him because he wasn't manly enough

owenbrown 06-23-2012 05:45 PM

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g1...ng/sheeple.jpg

owenbrown 06-23-2012 06:09 PM

credit Xero (I think) for that. That was made years ago.

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 08:50 PM

Mr Anderson reveals where he came up with assholes...
 
"Interestingly enough Vince Russo then wrote for me the next week the line about Jeff Hardy has his fans who he calls the Creatures of the Night. Well, I’ve got my own fans, and I call them Anderson’s assholes, and right at that moment the entire crowd started chanting, ‘We are assholes.’"- Mr Anderson

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 08:52 PM

"Hey, now. I liked Russo, He was good to me and worked very hard and was very creative." - Tony Schiavone (Feb 15, 2012)

Follow former WCW commentator Tony Schiavone at:
http://twitter.com/tonyschiavone24


"Every time Russo does a wrestling show with no drama, the ratings drop." - Kevin Nash on Twitter (1/27/2011)


Jim Ross blogs:

"Yes...Vince Russo played a significant role in the success of the Attitude Era of WWE back in the day but everything and I mean every thing that appeared on TV was vetted and approved by the Chairman of the Board. Everything. The talent roster wasn't bad either if you will pardon me while I pat myself on the back (Thanks, Gorilla.) But Russo should be given his due in all fairness."

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 09:02 PM

Hey tjgogo,, thanks for agreeing with my post it just seems we a little outnumbered by the trolls on here but keep fighting!!!,,,,, tradition will die

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjogo (Post 3902903)
:y:

they could easily add another belt for the time they spend with the women's division/title.


The return of the Saskatchewan Hardcore International Title,,,,,,,, LOL

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 09:32 PM

Everything paul heyman and spolosky write are written in meltzer sheep doo doo,,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 09:34 PM

The fact that you trolls on here give yourselves gimmicks shows how lame you are,,,, your not cool your not funny,,, get over yourselves,,,

RUSSO OWNZ U

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 11:44 PM

I mean whats the point of you guys having a gimmick,,, your posting on a f----ing message board you are not wrestlers,,, sorry that your upset you never held the WCW World title like Vince Russo,, but heyyyyy you can cheat with accounts and win the tppww forum award which nobody cares about,,, congrats,,,,!!!

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 11:49 PM

Football,,,, should dogs be allowed in the NFL
 
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HAHA,,, teaching my dog how to play the game,,,

loopydate 06-23-2012 11:50 PM

"Vince Russo is the greatest writer in the history of our sport!" - Tony Schiavone (July 8, 2004)

"Goldberg/Hogan was the greatest match in the history of our sport!" - Tony Schiavone (Oct 24, 2007)

"This sandwich is the greatest lunch in the history of our sport!" - Tony Schiavone (Apr 2, 2012)

#1-norm-fan 06-23-2012 11:52 PM

"The week before I started with WCW, the show got a .00001 rating. The week I took over the ratings went up to 473.9." - Vince Russo

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 11:52 PM

WWF fan,,, are you having a change of heart or something??,, liking your posts a lot more lately after I raped you with ratings facts last night lol,,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-23-2012 11:56 PM

Tell me about it dude,,, they sit and troll the forums trying to post witty comments and you just think in your ahead omfg how dumb they sound,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-24-2012 12:06 AM

Go to the social groups area and join the group i made called,,, ANTI TRADITIONALISTS bro

TNARICK,,, 06-24-2012 12:08 AM

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, THERE JOIN NOW

Tom Guycott 06-24-2012 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loopydate (Post 3903277)
"Vince Russo is the greatest writer in the history of our sport!" - Tony Schiavone (July 8, 2004)

"Goldberg/Hogan was the greatest match in the history of our sport!" - Tony Schiavone (Oct 24, 2007)

"This sandwich is the greatest lunch in the history of our sport!" - Tony Schiavone (Apr 2, 2012)

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.co.../t/tony/09.jpg
"This was the greatest post in the history of our sport!"

#1-norm-fan 06-24-2012 12:29 AM

The first week that Mr. Anderson called his fans "Anderson's Assholes", TNA beat WWE in the ratings by a 7 to 1 margin.

FACT

TNARICK,,, 06-24-2012 12:51 AM

Booker T in WCW,,,
 
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/LE5GdT03OqY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The best his character ever was,,,, dont hate the playa hate the game,,,,,, save the drama for yo moma,,,, BOOK END

#1-norm-fan 06-24-2012 12:56 AM

http://s1.e-monsite.com/2009/05/12/0...booker-jpg.jpg

TNARICK,,, 06-24-2012 01:01 AM

Dude dont post that crap in my thread,,, they ruined booker t,,,,, gtfo with that crap,,, Booker T use to be my favorite wrestler in WCW 2000 and he became s*** by time he returned from his injury and had long hair after Russo left thats when I reallized how much Russo had to do with making the wrestlers into stars,,,

Then Russo made Raven my favorite wrestler in TNA when he had more control,,, as soon as Russo lost his control in TNA Raven became crap,,,

Ever since then ive decided Russo is my favorite wrestler because at least you always know no matter what he will deliver in his own character,,,,,

#1-norm-fan 06-24-2012 01:04 AM

All hail King Bookaaaaaah,,,,,,,,,,!

Heisenberg 06-24-2012 01:19 AM

WWE 4 Life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-24-2012 01:58 AM

WWE SUX BALLZ

owenbrown 06-24-2012 04:36 AM

you suck ham sandwiches through a straw

owenbrown 06-24-2012 04:37 AM

go back to being a John Goodman ripoff :n:

whiteyford 06-24-2012 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AntiTradition (Post 3903312)

Then Russo made Raven my favorite wrestler in TNA when he had more control,,, as soon as Russo lost his control in TNA Raven became crap,,,

Yes, Raven in TNA was such a bold character shift from his time in ECW/WCW/WWE/ROH and even his 2nd run in TNA, each one was wildly different:roll:

I love Raven so fuck you for making me say anything disparaging about him:nono:

owenbrown 06-24-2012 06:20 AM

I am on the toilet taking a shit that is 6839284714837557390385529 times better than this thread

TNARICK,,, 06-24-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 3903392)
Yes, Raven in TNA was such a bold character shift from his time in ECW/WCW/WWE/ROH and even his 2nd run in TNA, each one was wildly different:roll:

I love Raven so fuck you for making me say anything disparaging about him:nono:


Nice try to be sarcastic,,, DUDE Its like if you have SCSA today he may be the same character in looks but the situations he is put in are nothing compared to the compelling storylines and situations that he would be put in when Russo was around which would build his character,,,,,,,

SAME AS RAVEN,,,,,,, your a dumb___ if you dont realize Raven vs Jarrett Raven vs AJ were the highlights of his career,,,,,,,

TNARICK,,, 06-24-2012 10:44 AM

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Wehttam 06-24-2012 10:44 AM

vicky venom e-mailed me yesterday telling me about all the sick russo fantasies you guys would act out.

she was always 'russo'.

so sad.

TNARICK,,, 06-24-2012 10:46 AM

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TNARICK,,, 06-24-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Wehttam (Post 3903489)
vicky venom e-mailed me yesterday telling me about all the sick russo fantasies you guys would act out.

she was always 'russo'.

so sad.

Vicky Venom died from a stroke you sick stupid bitch dont fucking talk about her less you want your ass fucking handed to you cuz i will track you down and beat the living fuck out of you,,,,,,,

itsmeJD 06-24-2012 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AntiTradition (Post 3903491)
Vicky Venom died from a stroke you sick stupid bitch dont fucking talk about her less you want your ass fucking handed to you cuz i will track you down and beat the living fuck out of you,,,,,,,

So Jeff Jarrett killed her?


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