Yes, complete 100% shoot. It just took them 6 minutes to figure out how to cut his mic.

HAHA Nice. Junior member, know your role

Hey, they did their job if people ask if it was real.

The fact that in a tirade that took aim at the biggest stars the company has, past and present, the company ethos, the boss, his daughter and son-in-law, amongst other things, the only word censored was "douchbag" kinda gives it away.

Is that what they censored? I was wondering what the hell he said.

The Rock is starting to sound like the old WCW guys, all about who draws the money. Also, he is sounding like the old guys like Dusty Rhodes who sit at the round table.

Taker it easy with posting your sig in every post

Check out the front page of TPWW, there is shit about Punk's status and mention of Heyman and Lesnar.

And a follow up to it

http://www.wzronline.com/wrestling-n...-punk-wwe.html

Off topic, but in regards to the Lesnar/Heyman deal, my guess would be some kind of Legends deal, or something that allows WWE to use their likenesses. Action figures? DVD? WWE 12 even?!

Forgive me, I don't really watch WWE or wrestling at all anymore. I know it wasn't a total shoot, rather a "shoot-style" promo, I just wasn't sure if he legitimately "took it too far" and got carried away and went off script and that's why they cut his mic. It was just strange hearing him specifically mention other promotions and take some pretty serious shots at people which is why I asked.

Hahaha, I love CM Punk if it's true about him trying to get Colt a spot on the main roster.

You';re comfortable with people knowing you like a negro?

Was abit fucked while typing last night so got abit confused when responding to your post,lol. I was actually talking about sometime after next years WM.

As awesome as the promo was, I am starting to think people are throwing the words "historic" and "revolutionary" out there way too much.

Calm down Jimmy, don't get your panties in a bunch because he called Trips a doofus.

lol

It was an awesome promo, but it wasn't "historic" or "revolutionary". It could lead to something "historic" or "revolutionary" but we said the same thing about the Nexus angle last year.

I don't think we'll know the impact until after the PPV. If they play it right and do something with Punk taking the belt, then it might well be the next big thing. It's certainly not going to change the industry like Austin 316, the NWO, or Hulkamania; but it will be the angle of the year - perhaps even of the decade.

In reality, looking at the possible various outcomes, the smart money is on Cena winning and Punk saying goodbye, even if just for a short while. That would put a lid on this whole thing, and means you will be absolutely 100% right.

I really want Punk to win and take the belt to ROH (obviously scripted, but to add to the storyline).

WWE worked with ECW in the 90's, so this isn't unbelievable.

Who, this guy? Nah, he's been around forever dude, just hasn't posted in a looooooooooooooong time. :shifty:

My ideal booking goes like this:

1) Punk wins at the PPV. Immediately runs from the ring through the crowd to the outside to a waiting car, where he's driven off into the Chicago night. Why not have a cameo for Colt Cabana as the driver too?

2) Show ends with Cena looking shocked in the ring.

3) Following night on Raw, Vince announces that Cena and Punk are both gone from the WWE, and are not coming back. Any mention of either man is forbidden on television, the website or any other WWE medium.

He announces the start of a new era, and a tournament to crown a new champion with a new belt. The final will take place at the next PPV, Summerslam.

4) Punk "goes back" to ROH to a hero's welcome and forms an alliance with the Kings of Wrestling. He defends the WWE championship at shows. However, the WWE does not acknowledge this at all, and although there are obviously videos on youtube and mentions on forums, there is no official comment from the WWE.

5) At the finals, lets say between Del Rio and Big Show, Punk jumps the barrier and attacks both men with the old belt. A couple of guys from the back hit the ring. Punk clears a few of them but starts to get outnumbered before Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli also jump the barrier and fight them off.

As they the start to overpower the WWE guys, Cena's music hits and he rushes to the ring. But instead of decking Punk, Hero or Castagnoli; he teams with them a beats on the remaining WWE guys. Show ends with four men triumphant in the ring.

6) Next night on Raw, the show starts with the group in the ring. Punk says he called the WWE and said he'd come back and defend the belt one more time against someone of their choice, but on his terms and with his ROH guys as enforcers. He explains Hero and Castagnoli have his back, and they're here for one night only.

His reasoning for coming back is because he's CM Punk, and he can do whatever he wants, when he wants. Tonight Raw is CM Punk's playground and there's nothing the WWE can do.

Cena explains that he's with Punk because that speech he gave on the 27 June woke him up. He got into wrestling to be the best, not the most popular. When Punk beat him for the belt, he realised he wasn't the best. He tells the WWE Universe that the champ is here, and that the champ isn't him: it's CM Punk.

He confesses that he telephoned Punk and they reconciled, and hatched this plot. Cena says he doesn't hate his fans or his popularity, but it clouded his judgement and swelled his ego. It made his shallow and superficial, and distracted him from his goal of being the best wrestler the planet ever saw. He says he's going back to his roots, he's aligned himself with some of the best wrestlers in the world such as CM Punk, Hero and Castagnoli - and together, they will collectively be known as "The New Kings of Wrestling".

7) A match is booked for the championship, but under Punk's rules, and it's a triple threat with CM Punk and Cena versus any top babyface.

Cena helps Punk retain, while Hero and Castagnoli act as enforcers at ringside. A few run-ins from WWE guys, but the show ends with a simultaneous GTS and Attitude Adjustment in the ring from Punk and Cena.

8) The following week on Raw, "The New Kings" re-appear and admit that as the best in the world, they should be on the biggest stage in the world, and that stage is the WWE. They disclose that they have all signed with the WWE, but that their doing things their way.

Punk says he was rehired because the WWE admitted defeat and that there is only one true WWE championship - the one in his possession. The tournament to crown a new championship was, and he quotes, "in desperation". To restore some prestige to Raw, the WWE had to swallow their pride and rehire Punk.

Cena, Hero and Castagnoli were hired as part of the conditions of Punk's contract.

9) Thus starts a program with "The New Kings of Wrestling" dominating like the NWO. Hero and Castagnoli pick up the tag titles and Cena starts wearing wrestling-trunks instead of his jeans to symbolise his transition from a Superstar to a "wrestler".

Have the whole thing run for a while. Hero and Castagnoli could be on short term contracts and also appear on ROH at their will. Punk is the top heel on the show, and while Cena stops doing a lot of his "Hustle, Loyalty and Respect" schtick, he remains a tweener. Eventually, Cena comes back to the WWE's side, beats Punk for the title and thus dismantles the stable.

Wow, I didn't mean to write so much. I just "Noided".

Please take a read though, I think it's a pretty good idea.

Maybe because I don't really see this as a revolutionary moment. I think it could be an awesome angle for a couple of months and elevate Punk to a new level, at the most.

I'm being realistic in that there's no way the WWE would commit to turning Cena heel permanently because of the money he draws right now. A brief flirtation with a heel stable like this would probably be the most they'd do.

Punk would benefit greatly from being the leader of a proper stable for once; one that even includes Cena. Sure, it sounds a lot more like Nexus than it does NWO, but for those few months they'd be the hottest and most despised group of people in the industry.

I like Chavo's idea aside from the last bit only because the WWE should push a new face while Cena is in this stable. Maybe a face Miz?

So we're agreeing the ending sucks? :(

Meh, I didn't really focus on the ending too much as the heel turn for Cena and return for Punk are the bits that excite me the most. You can probably tell when I spent only one sentence summarising my finale.

They'd definately need to push new faces to feud with the group. Triple H would be an ideal rival, as he'd be fighting for the honour of the WWE against these (excuse the pun) punks who have gatecrashed the WWE and are disrespecting the legacy and achievements of everyone in the Hall of Fame.

Face Miz could work also - I love that idea. He could be booked as desperate to join the group, as he sees them as the elite. However, "The New Kings" toy with him, making him jump through hoops before they reject him for a third time. He snaps and takes them out. Obviously, they'd have to fight back and obliterate him to remain to appear strong, but that moment Miz snaps would be gold.

Especially if Miz once again wins MITB but cant cash it in this time cos there's no championship on Raw (forget about jumping to SD) It really could work. Im just thinking now tho that its very similar to Nexus from last summer and might be too fresh in peoples minds to do it again with Cena. Even tho he never turned heel with nexus

It is very recent and similar. I hope if they were going to do something like this, they'd push the group with intent and leave any comparisons behind in the dust.

I really love the image in my head of the four men stood on the turnbuckles in each corner of the ring looking smug and soaking in the venom of the crowd. Hero and Claudio as tag champs; Punk as top bad guy and champ; and Cena as a rejuvenated heel. It excites me.

CSL, i think its THE WAY he comes out on top though. When he won the title off Miz that was fine. When he beat R-Truth in Washington that was bollocks. A fucking little Jimmy throws water on him and then he's done for?! That would be fine during the match but then Cena tosses him in the ring, AA right away and theres the 3? Not buying it

Dude my helmet is peeping out the top of my jeans at the thought of it but remember the classic line "This is the WWE after all so they will fuck it up"

The kid throwing water finish was still better than the Duct Tape finish.

I was watching Capitol Punishment at a local Buffalo Wild Wings, and for some reason, the place when BALLISTIC when Lil' Jimmy soaked R-Truth. I didn't know exactly how to feel about that.

I will be so sad if PUNK goes. Worst wrestling news i have ever heard. Lame. Vince needs to not suspend him and give him any money and a lifetime supply of Pepsi.

Worse than Guerrero's death or Benoit's murder/suicide?

I just wish Benoit had done that murder angle ten years earlier. He pushed me so close to switching off wrestling forever with that championship run in 2004. When Randy beat him at SummerSlam i almost cried with joy. I wish Benoit's wife and kid were still alive and instead the selfish cunt had just hung himself and let us all move on. He was my most hated wrestler and possibly person of all time, nobody will ever touch him on that and i almost felt justified when i heard the murder/suicide news.

Ill never forget being stared at by Benoit and thinking he was a fucking nutjob. I was at a house show in Ireland, Benoit was on last defending the belt against Kane. Their match followed HBK vs HHH which had just completely tore the house down. It was epic and every fan was on their feet the entire time, crowd was probably 65%-35% in HBK's favour.
Then Benoit comes out. We could hear him talk to Kane from the front row at one point during the match, the arena was silent. Match felt like it lasted 100 mins but finally after Benoit won he was holding the belt high above his head as the majority of the crowd clapped him. He was showing the belt to all corners of the crowd and when he turned towards us, we all flipped him the bird. There was 5 of us doing it and he definately saw us to the point that he lowered the belt down significantly and just stared a hole through me and my mates. We joked afterwards saying how cool it was that we pissed Benoit off but we all agreed as we stood there flipping him off that we were kinda frozen scared when we realised he saw us. Is that because he looked like an actual nutjob that could just go off and kill a fan? We didnt give him much shit during his match except a few boos so he had no reason to react so badly towards us.

On a seperate note Edge vs Ric Flair was on that card too and Flair wrestled for 2 full mins with his tights down and pasty ass hanging out. The greatest moment though was when he climbed the turnbuckle right in front of us and we got a mighty shot of his massive white ass. Truly a beautiful sight

If Benoit wanted to, he could have killed you and all your scrawny, prepubescent friends at the same time.

Chris Benoit killing his family was sad but im only sadness for his child and his wife. Not him. He is a bastard. BUt to me PUNK leaving is worst.

The irony of bringing Benoit up in this thread is that the match he no-showed was meant to be against Punk. That match would have been awesome.

We were 20 at the time you ignorant wankstain. And one of the guys i was with is a former kickboxing world champion who i have tried to encourage to start wrestling. Not saying 'id kick benoits ass' but anthony probly could do well on his own against him. But you brought up such a fucking childish stupid point so, 5 on 1 yeah WE woulda killed HIM.

Then to you i say, you are very dumb

Alright sweetheart, calm down. It's such a beautiful day today. No need for that attitude. Get it? :kiss:

Think you answered this yourself earlier in the post.

Just watched the promo again. Absolute thing of beauty. But there's one thing missing that I wish Punk had mentioned:

While he was ranting about being the best and not being used properly etc, he should have mentioned Survivor Series 2006, and used insider terms, like how he 'outpopped' the biggest 'babyfaces' in the company... and look where that got him... on ECW! (or something along those lines...)

"I was put on a brand that nobody gave a fuck about. A brand that used to mean something, but ever since Vince got his grubby fingers on it, it became a watered down former shell of itself. Basically, it became worse than the XFL. No wonder Paul Heyman gave Vince the old fuck you. I mean, sure I won the ECW Title in time, but so did guys like Mark Henry, Chavo Guerrero, and Matt Hardy. So if that isn't a slap in the face, I don't know what is."

isn't this just a set up for CM Punk to face Vince's DOOFUS son-in-law at SummerSlam?

Honestly, this is either a really GREAT work or its real because I'm second-guessing myself now.

I seriously think he's leaving. Seriously. I'm seriously thinking he's leaving and not coming back. I think he's going to win the belt at the PPV, only to have the MITB winner (it makes the MOST sense for it to be Kofi, his real life friend and former tag team champion partner who is one of the only guys he likes in the locker room) to come save it. He puts him over on the way out.

I don't see Del Rio winning it because he already got the Rumble this year and no one else in MITB makes sense for this storyline, assuming that MITB will even play into it.

Whatever happens, I'm watching to see.

why would they let him win it if they know he's leaving, I don't get it

To appease him, in a sense that, he's already signed an extension and its just a really GREAT work.

Why you say that?

Maybe it's their plan to just have one main title again?

Because you said that CM Punk POSSIBLY leaving the WWE is a bigger tragedy than Chris Benoit murdering two innocent people in cold blood. I mean its fucking moronic at best. Id almost pass that comment on to the cops and tell them to keep an eye on you.

I never said that it was worst. But to me PUNK leaving the WWE is terribble to me. Sorry if I upset anyone. Of course if someone kills a kid and a wife then he is a bad person and it is bad. Maybe it came out wrong: I dunno.

you aren't very old are you?

why you say that? also, why cant i post in my thread i made yesterday? what happen?

see you type like a fruitcake, whats goin on?! what age are you? i dont care if ur 10 but i just wanna know what the deal is

Fruitcake? i dunno about that. SOrry if I write too bad for you. I just signed up here to talk about WWE. Geez.

Settle down HBPunk. You don't type like a scholar yourself.

come on this guy is an obvious sock. why the fuck are you at me again tho juan? my typing skills are certainly not the greatest but id guess im a lot brighter than you as you dont sound like a scholar

I wasn't aware you could hear me...

Also, this guy doesn't show up as sock in the "sock detector" (like Sexton Hardcastle did ;) )
so there's really nothing I can do. He can still be a sock, but he might be hiding his real IP.

I like the way you wrote that angle, Classic. Personally, I think an angle like that would be quite intense. The only thing is that it makes Cena look "second-fiddle," and I don't think the WWE would be willing to do that. He and Punk would probably reveal themselves to be "buddies" and "partners," with Punk just being the guy to hold the WWE Championship. Everything else I love about it, though. Especially the tournament that goes nowhere because The New Kings intervene. The final two guys could become two of the top faces leading the charge against Punk.

I would love to see Colt Cabana brought into the angle, though. Apparently Punk has been pushing for the WWE to sign him, and even X-Pac has recently said it was stupid of the WWE to let him go. Colt Cabana as the driver would be a nice touch, but I'd like to see Cabana officially part of the group.

CM Punk: WWE Champion
John Cena: Enforcer
Colt Cabana: United States Champion
Chris Hero & Claudio Castagnoli: WWE Tag Team Champions

this coming from the guy who told me to stop typing in capital letters because i was "shouting"...get some sleep john

Sexton whocastle?! Never heard of him ;)

I'm pretty sure this is all a work, by the way. I can't see the WWE giving this much attention to a guy that is on his way out of the company. Seems counter-productive, you know? By work, I mean "cheah, duh," but I think Punk has already signed a new contract with the WWE, or that even more of that promo was scripted than we imagine.

:y: :yes: Completely agree. It makes zero sense from every logical angle that this could be anything but a work

I dont know if this is a work. It look pretty real to me. I hope it is though bc Ive been a Punk fan forever. And I would hate to see him go to the crappy TNA. Also, what is that HBKpunks deal?

The fact that he mentioned Laurinitis (sp) was just for smarks and nobody else. I think they are working the IWC more than anyone. If you think about it they have been trying to outfox the IWC a lot more in the last 12-18 months, this is just the best thing they have ever done. They know we will discuss it to death and we will have no answer by the end of it until it all plays out. I think the WWE deserves huge credit for this

All i did was ask your age because you type like a child. Thats my deal

Building up CM Punk as the biggest thing in wrestling, and then letting him go to ROH would be stupid. Also, there has been talk about Punk's contract coming up for the longest time. The WWE could have easily jobbed out Punk. But as it gets closer they put him in a fucking title match?

I know Jeff Hardy was champion but didnt he leave after a huge build and a title match loss, ironically to CM Punk?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljvnas4Gid1qb3ujn.jpg

http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/c...0bow_53582.jpg

And on a side note, I'm a Paul Heyman/Lesnar guy too! :P

RAW REBOUND on Smackdown:

This whole thing is a giant work. I can't believe that there are retards that think otherwise. And as for HBpunk, Taker it Easy and that CM punk moron. Are you fucking idiots braindead? Jesus. I would expect idiocy from Seth82 and captain burrito but they seem like Mensa members compared to your collective 3 brain cells.

This is serious business this pro rassllin'

WE WANT RASSLE

WE WANT RASSLE

WE WANT RASSLE

I think this is definitely a huge work (Punk just took some extra liberties in his promo JUST FOR KICKS)

This will all build up to CM Punk vs. Triple Doofus at SummerSlam, like I thought this was the original plan anyways, according to James FUCKING Steele's thread

Out of all the guys on the roster, Punk is the best one to convince Doofus and Vince to think outside the box and make things edgier.

Cena has no balls to do that, he just goes along with whatever Vince wants him to do. He won't even take charge of his own character.

Punk is smarter than everyone on the roster, and this is proof. (A punk is someone who goes up against authority, right?)

Pure genius, actually. JUST MY OPINION THOUGH

also, I don't know why Punk would be legitimately bitter at WWE though. He came in and became a 3 time WH Champ or whatever (in such a short period), so why should he still be angry at that? Plus he got a good run as a heel with SES

I can see him getting frustrated with stuff recently, but overall, the guy doesn't have anything to be bitter about. His WWE career has been successful in my eyes. A storybook career. MITB winner twice.

huge work. I'm not falling for this shit

Will you go as far as to state that if Punk does leave and it's not a work, that you'll leave TPWW forever? :p

sounds familiar....

Whats your fucking problem dickface? I know its a giant work aswel iv been saying it all along. Go fuck yourself :foc:

If Punk leaves and it's not a work, I'll leave TPWW forever. No one here likes me anyway, but more importantly, all my faith in WWE relies on this angle right now. I already know about next week, but MITB is the proving ground. And if Punk leaves, I have no reason to follow wrestling. So I'll probably just find some other aspiration. Maybe accounting, or aviation. Maybe even magic.

Damn, now I really need him to stay lol

Yo chief, Thanks for the white rep. Oh you've been saying it's a work the whole time. Good job. A winner is you!

I dont give a rats balls about rep, just wanted to let you know your a twat :wave: You sad little boy

*you're

Quavers.

And Mini Cheddars!

Nice racist comment you left me there behind your lil red dot. Lovely stuff. Im not 'proud' to be irish cos i had nothing to do with being born there so i dont give a shit but you are an ignorant piece of shit

*suck it

From what I've heard, he was treated like shit and miserable when he first started. Also, from what I've heard him say, he seems like a guy who really doesn't like the fame. He seems to be a very "leave me the fuck alone if you see me in public" type guy. That, mixed with his perceived misuse, mainly the company not getting behind him, I can see where he might not be happy... Unhappiness tends to lead to bitterness against the entity you perceive to be causing it.

Not saying it's all justified, if it' true, but I could see him being legitimately bitter.

I think he's mad becuz they didnt put him on a collectors cup. He seemed mad about that I and would too if i was the best wrestler in the WWE.

At least he has a T-shirt.

So does Zack Ryder.

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Talked about this on my last show. Took up about half my time.

Almost a half hour talking about a six minute promo. Seems so ridiculous.

Yep. That'd be the major gripe I reckon.