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Ben Rodrigues 12-15-2023 01:24 AM

Great video I just saw on Twitter of Tony Khan introducing Giannis Antetokounmpo.

Ben Rodrigues 12-15-2023 01:27 AM

Breaking news from CM Punk's reporter!

"The vibe we have been given is that AEW is in danger of not being renewed by WBD for TNT or TBS"

- Nick Hausman

Man. If this actually happens what a fall.

Mr. Nerfect 12-15-2023 01:44 AM

It wouldn’t surprise me if they’re dropped even if WBD doesn’t get Raw. They’ve done some disgusting shit lately and seem like an unprofessional outfit in general

Sepholio 12-16-2023 02:53 PM

lol Sasha Banks/Mercedes Mone no longer expected to go to AEW.

Wonder if it's because she's going back to WWE or if it's just because AEW no longer feels comfortable with the big spending when these rumors of them potentially losing their TV deal are flaring up.

Mr. Nerfect 12-16-2023 02:56 PM

So Kenny’s come down with diverticulitis. I don’t wish ill on anyone, but something about it struck me as karmic. It didn’t feel like a proportionate response from the universe re: the Punk stuff. His career being where it is and theirs being where theirs are does that. Then someone reminded me that Brock’s F5 is called “Diverticulitis” in AEW Fight Forever.

Mr. Nerfect 12-16-2023 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sepholio (Post 5639348)
lol Sasha Banks/Mercedes Mone no longer expected to go to AEW.

Wonder if it's because she's going back to WWE or if it's just because AEW no longer feels comfortable with the big spending when these rumors of them potentially losing their TV deal are flaring up.

I think it was probably a deal CM Punk had a hand in putting together. They’ve had friendly tweet exchanges in the past. She probably felt safer going to a company where a prominent figure said he wanted to rape her, who is now married to a bullying judoka with Punk there.

Plus, the company has just gotten a worse and worse image since they showed her in the crowd at Wembley.

Mr. Nerfect 12-16-2023 03:02 PM

Tony Khan said that to be AEW is to be attacked at the Final Battle press conference. He said you can do 5 great shows in a row and people will say something negative. When has AEW done 5 great shows, let alone 5 in a row? He says he shuts all the “negativity” out now. He’s advocating for living in complete denial. He’s making everything sound like it’s good. That’s a delusional perspective to take.

Mr. Nerfect 12-16-2023 03:04 PM

Oh, he also said they were #1 on cable Wednesday. That’s only in a certain demo that cable isn’t particularly apt at reaching, for ORIGINAL programming. He HAS to know that, right?

Lock Jaw 12-16-2023 03:07 PM

To be fair, it should be his job to say positive things about the company so he is in the right to say they put on great shows, and brag about whatever #1 stat they can get.

Lock Jaw 12-16-2023 03:08 PM

There's just gotta be the line between "public face staying positive to the public, while realizing things are not going well backstage" and "public face staying positive to the public, while also fooling himself that all is well"

Lock Jaw 12-16-2023 03:13 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 12-16-2023 03:24 PM

People will defend what Tony says and does as “promoting.” A good promoter increases business for what they are promoting though. When the “spin” comes across as transparent lies pushing reality back, it leaves a sour impression.

And you’re right that this public face can’t actually be an attempt to fool themselves.

Mr. Nerfect 12-16-2023 03:26 PM

Sorry, didn’t mean that to sound like I’m arguing with you, Lock Jaw. I agree with your point. Tony just isn’t very good at it lol.

Lock Jaw 12-16-2023 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5639358)
People will defend what Tony says and does as “promoting.” A good promoter increases business for what they are promoting though. When the “spin” comes across as transparent lies pushing reality back, it leaves a sour impression.

And you’re right that this public face can’t actually be an attempt to fool themselves.

To be fair, again, to a lot of people out there it doesn't come across as "transparent lies" because they just don't know better or care to know better.

Not everyone can be as "educated" as The Noid.

Ben Rodrigues 12-16-2023 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5639354)
There's just gotta be the line between "public face staying positive to the public, while realizing things are not going well backstage" and "public face staying positive to the public, while also fooling himself that all is well"

He'd garner a lot more support if he was upfront. Say the product sucks and here's what we're going to do better. Dana White does it all the time- if the show was shit he says it (and looks visibility pissed) apologises to everyone and then transitions into what they're going to do/how they're going to make it up to the fans. All I hear in press conferences and see on Twitter from Tony is that the shows are "great" when they aren't. He comes across as ingenuous.

xrodmuc316 12-16-2023 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5639351)
Tony Khan said that to be AEW is to be attacked at the Final Battle press conference. He said you can do 5 great shows in a row and people will say something negative. When has AEW done 5 great shows, let alone 5 in a row? He says he shuts all the “negativity” out now. He’s advocating for living in complete denial. He’s making everything sound like it’s good. That’s a delusional perspective to take.

He is an idiot. AEW gets attacked no matter what!!!!!

Maybe if his company directive from day 1 wasnt to attack WWE, people wouldnt come at him.

Mr. Nerfect 12-16-2023 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5639360)
To be fair, again, to a lot of people out there it doesn't come across as "transparent lies" because they just don't know better or care to know better.

Not everyone can be as "educated" as The Noid.

I don’t think those people are paying attention to his press conferences or ROH in general. Everyone knows AEW has got its shit going on. Lying to people isn’t going to help. It fuels the “negativity” (honesty). Promoting isn’t telling people “This ice-cream will give you an orgasm and make you rich.” You need to be aware of what you are actually delivering to people.

I don’t expect him to say “AEW sucks.” But stop trying to lie your way out of the shit.

Mr. Nerfect 12-16-2023 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5639372)
He is an idiot. AEW gets attacked no matter what!!!!!

Maybe if his company directive from day 1 wasnt to attack WWE, people wouldnt come at him.

Making yourself “the other” is always risky when the original actually gains approval. When your counterculture you become reliant on culture. He should have just focused on his own shop.

Mr. Nerfect 12-16-2023 11:16 PM

It’s also a millionaire throwing a pity party for themselves. And he basically told people he’s not going to listen to the fans unless they blow his product.

He’s becoming Vince at a rapid rate.

Mr. Nerfect 12-17-2023 02:38 AM

Disco Inferno posted something along the lines of “Like the shows need a reset.” Tony responded with something along the lines of “That you’re an irrelevant parasite unites the wrestling community.”

Guy’s losing it before our eyes.

Ol Dirty Dastard 12-18-2023 08:54 AM

in fairness, Disco is a parasite.

Sepholio 12-18-2023 10:22 AM

Dale being an irrelevant parasite is the one thing that unites the TPWW community.

Mr. Nerfect 12-19-2023 05:33 AM

I dunno. I enjoy Disco Inferno’s theme song more than I have anything AEW has ever produced.

Vastardikai 12-19-2023 08:36 AM

Disco was more over as a lower midcard with a goofy gimmick than all of the "Workrate" Gods of today.

Lock Jaw 12-19-2023 08:41 AM

Imagining Noid boogying to Disco's theme.....

Splaya 12-19-2023 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5639420)
I dunno. I enjoy Disco Inferno’s theme song more than I have anything AEW has ever produced.

That's a lie. Julia Hart's ascension from being a blonde associated with a tag team to being the real leader of The House of Black, her theme song, and her overall appearance is way better than anything Disco has ever done.

Ol Dirty Dastard 12-20-2023 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5639433)
Disco was more over as a lower midcard with a goofy gimmick than all of the "Workrate" Gods of today.

He really wasn't. Fuck off with this lol.

I mean I got a kick out of him but he was nothing. A never was. I couldn't give a shit about the likes of Omega and the Bucks or whatever, but Disco's input means nothing. He's a jackass with worthless, Bischoff-Russo-level takes.

Ben Rodrigues 12-20-2023 08:49 AM

He was a decent TV Champion.

xrodmuc316 12-20-2023 09:59 AM

Disco Inferno was absolutely a lower card jobber, but he is clearly relevant if idiot Tiny Khan cares that much about his comment.

Ol Dirty Dastard 12-21-2023 08:26 AM

Relevance and worth aren't the same. Disco's relevant because he's on a podcast that panders to the lowest common denominator. So he generates buzz (unfortunately). It doesn't mean his opinion is any less worthless.

Ol Dirty Dastard 12-21-2023 08:26 AM

Disco reminds me of Destor if Destor didn't ever read.

Vastardikai 12-21-2023 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5639441)
He really wasn't. Fuck off with this lol.

I mean I got a kick out of him but he was nothing. A never was. I couldn't give a shit about the likes of Omega and the Bucks or whatever, but Disco's input means nothing. He's a jackass with worthless, Bischoff-Russo-level takes.

Here is the funny part: your second paragraph is absolutely the truth. But it doesn't invalidate my point. That is more of an indictment of the workrate clowns.

Mr. Nerfect 12-22-2023 07:00 AM

Disco was a featured part of wrestling back when way more people cared about wrestling, and having a spot in general meant more. I think of him like an X-Pac (not in terms of ring skills, but just for…being there).

Mr. Nerfect 12-22-2023 07:02 AM

If Disco Inferno was signing autographs in the 90s as opposed to The Bucks signing autographs now…I think Disco might have the longer line.

Sepholio 12-22-2023 07:15 AM

Yeah he may have been a low midcarder match wise, but I have a lot of memories of Disco. He was on like every episode of WCW TV it seemed. Featured in several big storylines. He was basically the WCW equivalent of R-Truth in WWE. Or a lower tier Miz maybe considering he was the cocky asshole kinda guy they used to put people over on their way up. Also got over a little as a face and could instantly turn heel and get the crowd to boo him. Everyone was still discoing when his music hit though lol.

Ol Dirty Dastard 12-22-2023 08:07 AM

lol X Pac was way more meaningful than Disco. Their names shouldn't be uttered in the same sentence.

Big Vic 12-22-2023 08:35 AM

Disco also killed nWo 2002, huge impact on the industry.

Mr. Nerfect 12-23-2023 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Ol Dirty Dastard (Post 5639517)
lol X Pac was way more meaningful than Disco. Their names shouldn't be uttered in the same sentence.

Way more is a bit of a stretch.

Ol Dirty Dastard 12-23-2023 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5639531)
Way more is a bit of a stretch.

Dude--Disco never did fuckall. X-Pac had a hell of a career.

First, go back to before he was in the WWF when he was lighting the indies on fire with Jerry Lynn as Lightning Kid.

Then there's how he came in the fed. The angle with Razor was compelling television. During that run, he had one of the best Raw main events in history with Bret Hart.

Fast forward to him being Sixx. Not the biggest run in history, but his shift the WCW was another huge blow to the WWF.

Then, when he came back to the WWF as X Pac, it was a HUGE moment. I remember him coming out and cutting his cut the mustard promo on Hogan. It was huge.

He then proceeded to be one of the most featured guys on TV until around 2000. He was super over and even had a prominent odd couple tag team with Kane. After that, yes, he fell off. X Pac heat and all that. He didn't evolve and got way too into the meth, and that was it.

Disco did nothing. He danced and wasn't featured. Nothing he ever did made an impact.

Ben Rodrigues 12-23-2023 08:20 AM

Remember when he was part of the Wolfpac?


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