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Raven is so good to listen to.
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Watching a WWECW episode from 2009. My God was Matt Striker awful on commentary
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Bullet Club shirts at Hot Topic are buy 1 get 1 half off. I got Kenny Omega and Marty Scurrl. I think I can get away with wearing the Villain Club shirt a lot more
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Fightful's data analyst Brandon Howard recently posted some stuff about the WWE with some of the biggest takeaways being:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ICYMI I looked into whether <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%24WWE&src=ctag&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">$WWE</a> business is down. So far the data is less dramatic than the anecdotes. <a href="https://t.co/igvWpYPEPr">https://t.co/igvWpYPEPr</a> <a href="https://t.co/DSOVaRjMZT">pic.twitter.com/DSOVaRjMZT</a></p>— Brandon Howard (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/915919924240973824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 5, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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I wanna say that I feel like Bullet Club has run it's course, but people on both sides of the ocean still buy their shit like hot cakes so what do I know.
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When people say hotcakes, they just mean "slightly more than other wrestling shirts," right? I'm not a fan of them, but it baffles me that the WWE haven't tried to monetize The Balor Club yet. Regardless of whether or not something is your cup of tea or not, stick your finger in the wind and see what you can dupe people out of.
The same goes for this Matt Hardy stuff. It's asinine and people are going to see it and go "wtf," but you might as well see if you can milk it a little bit before you go back to Mid-Card Matt. |
In the US it's just shirts, but if you watch events in Japan you see people wearing all kinds of bullet club merch while holding a big bullet club flag or some shit.
I just feel like their roster is becoming bloated and there are a couple guys like Tama Tonga and Chase Owens who are actually being held back by being a part of it. I actually wouldn't be against the elite separating from the bullet club, with Tama Tonga taking over as the leader. Dude turned it on in a big way this summer, and he deserves to move up to that next level imo. Bad Luck Fale can tag with Tonga Roa, giving you a VERY intimidating meat mountain of a team. |
I just finished the last few months of Nitro, and I gotta say... pretty damn entertaining all around. Without my judgement of the time, the shows were very watchable minus anything involving The Cat and Mike Sanders.
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I watched the highlights of Raw this morning as there was nothing else on TV at the time and the editing team of the highlight show added loud cheers to Roman Reigns' entrance and pretty much everything he does.
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I'd take Fale, Guerillas, Scruill, and Hangman, leave the rest. Maybe keep the Tokyo Pimp around just because I liked the Godfather in WWE.
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lol saw that on the front page. Fantastic.
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Good times. :'(
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Minus Air Boom though.
They were kinda lame. |
Kofi still tag team champion all these years later.
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Thinking about it now, I actually prefer "Air Boom Kofi" to "New Day Kofi".
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How did you get Santino is a P.O.S. from that when the only thing you can really hear in the video is Cornette yelling..... you don't know what Santino was doing or saying......
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I don't really see Santino being a "piece of shit" in that video. To me, to be a "piece of shit" you would have to do something that a "piece of shit" would do. Like slapping someone for not doing what you wanted them to do. But that's just my opinion. |
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Santino appears on the show "Aftermath" here in Canada.... Seems like a genuinely nice dude.....
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Cornette is great. He's emotionally fucked though.
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Why is Santino a piece of shit? He remains very composed during that clip. A piece of shit surely would have slapped Cornette silly there.
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Lol, props to Cornette for not backing down from Santino. Obviously you miss the start, but you can kind of tell by Santino's body language that he is the one "confronting." He's angled himself to trap Corny against the wall. Santino sounds "calm," but he's clearly the "aggressor" in the situation.
My guess would be that Santino and Cornette were going to be in the same place and Santino thought "Hey, if I see Cornette I'm going to ask him why he keeps ripping me." He probably thought he could reason with him or intimidate him into being all "No, Santino, I love you, you're the best," to have a story or something. Santino probably wasn't going out of his way to be a piece of shit, but I bet that situation didn't go the way he wanted, and there's no way you can look good trying to physically intimidate an old fat white dude with only good leg, lol. But I guess Santino is broken himself. Isn't his neck held on by duct-tape at this point? When talking about the Cornette situation, Santino always sounds like a fucking idiot. Like, the dude is funny and I enjoyed moments of his career, but you hear Cornette's version of the story -- which is self-deprecating, throws shade at WWE management and makes Santino look like a moron. Then you hear Santino's story, and he's probably not as good at telling stories, but it's literally like "I could have whooped Cornette's ass if I wanted to," which has always been one of Cornette's points. He wasn't slapping Santino because he thought he could beat him in a real fight, lol. I dunno, when weighing up the Cornette vs. Santino issue, I've always sided with Cornette. I mean, I understand the liberal "Oh, you don't slap an employee!" stance. Yeah, Cornette shouldn't have done it. I don't believe in slapping someone I don't like. But I'm not in wrestling for a reason. In a wrestling context I think it makes complete sense, lol. And the boys clearly still rib Santino about it. Did anyone hear about Santino getting "called" by Jim Cornette and Santino being dumb enough to think that it was real? He responded to this "shoot" Cornette call and Corny was like "Why the fuck would I call you, you dumb worked motherfucker? How the fuck would I even get your phone number?" |
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Don't know how reliable this is, but I'm reading a report that says that Santino approached Cornette, the two talked, they actually did shake hands, but then Santino demanded an apology and wouldn't let Cornette go until he did.
There sounds like there might be reality in that, because Cornette, despite not being the calmest individual lol, is very good at picking his spots and avoiding places that will have anyone who will make his blood boil. If Cornette and Santino were both advertised, I don't think Cornette would have gone if he "couldn't control himself" around Santino Marella. Unless Santino was a surprise guest, but then he woud have been yelling at whoever booked him too. |
I saw someone claiming to have shot the videos on YouTube who claimed that Santino called Cornette a "pussy" twice. I didn't think it was reliable, but I've since seen the name shared as the guy who sourced the videos. So, take that for what it's worth too.
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Just saw Shelton Benjamin for the first time in a while. He looked good.
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Seems like Santino was being a fucking dweeb, and wrong in this scenario. But damn, Cornette slapped the fucking guy, should have apologized a long time ago no matter how right he thinks he is. He only has himself to blame for this kind of stuff.
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So in 1987 the WWF brought in Missy Hyatt to host Missy's Manor which was supposed to replace Piper's Pit. They were so bad they didn't air, but Missy herself uploaded them.
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Just like everyone falsely accused JBL of bullying, you all accused Cornette of being in the wrong. Now you all owe two apologies.
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I pretty much could tell the scenario from the start, but it doesn't make it any less Cornette's fault. At some point you have to deal with your actions. As I said, he shoulda been the bigger man and apologized to Santino AGES ago, and this wouldn't have happened.
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If I worked with Cornette I would piss him off on a daily basis.
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It's probably to do with making the impact look better/more interesting/more painful.
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They do it a lot in matches and I understand why there since a superman punch would probably look bad in slo-mo but in the clip above It would look a lot better if it was just all slow-mo
......did TDE edit that clip themselves? If so I guess I would ask them that but I know WWE does it a lot too. |
No, they showed it like that in the show. But yeah, it emphasises the impact when you see Shane fall at full speed. That's the idea anyway.
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That's the word I was looking for. |
I guess, IMO it would be cooler to see how close they came to hitting each other.
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With 205 Live approaching its first birthday and having an uncertain future, I was wondering which guys would be in danger of being cut should the division fold.
I assume the three that came from the main roster in the first place - Neville, Kalisto, and Enzo would all be safe. Neville may be finished with the division anyway. Cedric Alexander, Akira Tozawa, and Rich Swann almost strike me as being too good to cut. Maybe a couple of them will end up in NXT for a bit but I'm not sure I see any of them receiving the boot. The Brian Kendrick has greatly mended the fences with WWE, and even if they decided they didn't have room for him on the main roster I'm quite certain he'll wind up in NXT as a trainer. Jack Gallagher has a unique gimmick that could be plugged in wherever, and I think they're keen to keep a Brit on the main roster. Drew Gulak's politician gimmick I think could play on either brand. He's a great mat-based wrestler as opposed to the flippy style of the other cruiserweights, so he could work good matches with guys out of the division. Supposedly they had him doing seminars in NXT before he was even signed so that tells me they value his presence. Tony Nese I think may find work as an enhancement guy just because he has a fantastic look, plus he's in more televised matches than anyone else in the division. So that leaves me with the rest. TJP, Gran Metalik, Noam Dar, Ariya Daivari, Mustafa Ali, Lince Dorado. They're the ones that I think may be in some trouble. Of they group TJP figures to be the safest, but they abandoned his initial push after a month and he's just kinda been "there". |
Mustafa Ali and Ariya Daivari might be kept around for representation. They seem to like Noam. I dunno, I basically agree with your list. I could see Rich Swann, Tozawa and/or Alexander being cut though.
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I mean I don't dislike any of them or particularly want to see any of them let go, but realistically there isn't enough room for them all on the main roster without a cruiserweight division in place...and NXT is fairly crowded as is.
The good news is the guys who signed will be able to make a fair amount of money on the indies. It never hurts to be able to add "Former WWE Superstar" to your billing. |
It's like...yeah, you don't want anyone to lose their job. But at the same time, this is a business and the more guys you have saturating the main roster as just bodies, the more diluted the pot is for everybody.
One of the things that really startled me about the Attitude era WWF (again, shout-out to the SCG Radio guys who do an amazing job with their podcast), was just how few stars were there. It was literally just Austin for a while. And you had Vince, and Mankind got hot, and Undertaker was a good auxiliary player. Kane was functional. But the real "star" was Austin. That was it. Then The Rock came along and he started being a star too. But it was Austin and Rock. I don't know why it took me so long to click onto that. I had this idea that...I don't even know what I thought. But anyway, those guys made everyone else more over because they were stars. Like, there's no real disputing that more people watched Crash Holly on television than Kevin Owens. So, I guess what I am arguing for is a "trickle-down" effect in wrestling. That's the bright side to downsizing a roster and getting some focus back. Because you'd need to do that for wrestling to get hot again. You need that star -- that Hogan, Rock or Austin. No one else really matters. It's good to have solid hands, good promos, fun acts, etc. But outside that star everybody is expendable. So, while I would feel sorry for guys in the immediate sense -- selfishly I want wrestling to be good again. And I think that most wrestlers would like it that way too. And we're so focused on "jobs for the boys" sometimes that I don't think we really appreciate how much more money everybody would be making if wrestling were hot. And, at the end of the day, if you're the sort of talent that is only around because there are five shows a week with three unique rosters, then how likely is it that you are that star? How valuable is your work, really? That's why when people say "the brand split offers an opportunity to more stars," I kind of groan. Because if you're only good enough to be there to fill hour four or five, then maybe it's because you're not quite good enough to fill hours 1 and 2. And those are the hours I really give a shit about, because they are going to engage me as a fan. I feel like an asshole saying it, but there are actually benefits for the talent too. It freshens them up. They can go and learn new tricks. They can develop on their own, without scripting, without having all their matches planned out. Time away has obviously helped many acts. It would be a bit nicer if there were a real alternative product though. Could you just imagine how much better used guys like Dolph Ziggler and Cesaro would have been by now if they had left and gotten to be Nick Nemeth and Claudio Castagnoli in a promotion that could also pay them $200,000 a year and give them national exposure. Is Bo Dallas getting more out of just standing around and being a fall guy for The Miz, or could he have used a fresh coat of paint and a chance to find himself elsewhere? Wrestling needs competition and it needs stars. If The Rock could just start his own wrestling promotion, that would be great. |
Was originally just going to say that I could see Rich Swann being put into NXT and put into a fun tag team. But I went on that tangent instead.
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In response to that Noid post:
The problem is that WWE has gone too far in the that direction of "one star". We're supposed to laser focus on, say, Cena, but they don't bother building anyone else for the long run. Not until another plague of injuries occurs. Not saying everyone needs to be at the top of the card, but there are too many that just aren't doing anything of note. I mean, in a microcosm, look at the Smackdown tag scene. Why is the New Day/Uso feud neverending? I mean, besides the history book scrubbing thing, it is doing nothing but overexposing those two teams. Meanwhile, the rest of the "division" isn't really doing shit. Over teasing a Hype Bros breakup and/or heel turn, comedy skits with Fashion Police and Ascention, Shelton and Gable are there. Then maybe some NXT blood gets pumped in... but why? Just to languish? One of the famous Vince-isms is "Perception is reality, pal!" but the company has been doing less and less to make a good portion of their roster seem like anybody. And then, the talent gets blamed for not connecting? Why am I going to care about someone who loses all the time? How is anyone going to get behind *anyone* with 50-50 booking? Everyone is on equal footing, and nobody is championship material. WWE is focused on the wrong shit. It's nice that they gave Jinder and Roman a push, but they are trying to create artificial demand for those two; Jinder for the cynical India market cash-grab, and Roman to essentially try to recreate The Rock (in terms of marketablity, I mean). They squandered the Ryder Revolution, and the few times he was on TV in an actual match, he was usually jobbing... short lived title reign notwithstanding. It took forever to get behind Daniel Bryan, instead of milking that cow like they would have back in the day. There was a golden opportunity to have Bray Wyatt essentially be the next Undertaker... but they saw fit to job him out at every opportunity to the point where he became a joke and a glorified manager to two tall guys who seem to have fallen off the planet. Curtis Axel was repackaged and promoted... for a couple of weeks before making him into a meatshield lackey and sucking any of the credibility they had just pumped into him away.They managed to squeeze most of the mystique out of Shinsuke. They hit the reset button on Bayley right after she got called up and she's been on a holding pattern since. Hopefully, they don't "get bored" and bury Asuka in a couple of months. They have EVERYTHING they would ever want in Brawn Strowman- tall, burly, strong, and even the rare commodity of being over on that alone- and all signs point to them just fattening him up to be fed to Reigns. They have time to build other talent, they just squander that time with a boatload of advertisements, recaps of shit we just watched, and the same faces on repeat with promos and backstage segments. NXT is more like RAW used to be - they do more with less. The same people don't need to show up on every airing. Raw and SD and even 205 could do the same. Take time and care to develop these guys and gals instead of expecting them to outpop DX instantly, especially when nobody knows who they are and don't have any reason to latch on to yet another face in the crowd. Yes, some folks can stand to go away and freshen up like Cody (Rhodes), but there is truly no reason why some of this can't be done in-house. They don't neccessarily need to "trim the fat" as much as they need to learn to take care of the toys they already have instead of trying to run out and get new ones all the time. |
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I don't think Corny should have slapped Santino, but I also think more that Santino should have taken responsibility for fucking up more. I guess he didn't really get the chance to. I dunno, in my experience, I actually find people like Cornette really easy to deal with. I hate this about myself, because I generally don't like being told what to do, but when they yell at you then you just say "What would you like me to do?". Then you do it and later on you say "Thanks for your guidance," and they seem to take a real shine to that. Like, Cornette had to yell at John Cena exactly once. Cena was clever enough to be like "Oh, this is how you learn from this guy." As a teacher, Cornette should be more flexible with how he teaches too, but I dunno, without getting too "the world is getting too soft!" because I'm generally a liberal hippy, I do think the wrestling business is supposed to be a bit tougher than dudes getting upset because their trainer yelled at them and slapped them around for being a dick, lol. And you don't go to Harley Race, for example, and try to get Harley Race to teach you according to your learning style, lol. I'm trying really hard not to make an argument for conformity and "taking it like a man," but it's fucking wrestling. I dunno. |
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But it's not that there is one star that is the problem. It is finding that right star. WWE wants to tell you who the star is going to be, and that is a problem. |
Quick results from tonight's SmackDown LIVE house show in East Lansing, MI:
The Usos © d. The New Day, Breezango and Benjamin & Gable -- Fatal 4 Way (4 corners style) tag team match -- SDL Tag Team Championship Bobby Roode d. Dolph Ziggler Tye Dillinger & The Hype Bros d. Aiden English & The Ascension Randy Orton d. Rusev Charlotte Flair, Becky Lynch & Naomi d. Lana, Tamina, Carmella (w/James Ellsworth) & Women's Champion Natalya -- 4-on-3 Handicap match Sami Zayn d. Mike Kanellis after KO came out and distracted Mike by congratulating him and Maria on their first child being on the way, allowing Sami to hit the Helluva Kick KO promo AJ Styles & Shinsuke Nakamura d. WWE Champion Jinder Mahal (w/The Singh Brothers) & United States Champion Baron Corbin Alright show overall, I guess, although seemed way more underwhelming than when they were last here in 2013...I give it a 'C'. |
Going to a RAW house show here on Saturday.....
They are advertising Roman vs Braun in a last man standing match, Jason Jordan vs. The Miz, and Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose vs The Bar I think I would have rather had a Smackdown house show, but hopefully will be good...... |
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