They will never kill Cap in the movies, Whedon-trope or not.

Leading up to The Avengers, all the post-credit sequences were all about connecting the heroes and their world, and SHIELD.


Could be "cool" if in this batch of movies leading to Avengers 2, they have scenes that connect the villains to each other. Some sort of Marvel equivalent of an Injustice League/Society/Legion of Doom situation.

Essentially what I posted a while ago?

Hmmm......apart from the Masters of Evil (who eventually got turned into the Thunderbolts), does Marvel even have that sort of villain team?

Because you'd think Dr. Doom and Magneto would probably get along like gangbusters.

You mean in that huge post I didn't read?

I believe you are thinking of Bendis. Unless you are talking about Whedons's television work, in which case I don't know. I've only ever read his work in comics.

The problem with thanos being in love with hela is that she is only the godess of death in asgard. Thanos himself works on a scale far, far beyond that of Hela, and his fixation is on the living embodiment of death, not simply a shepard like hela, let alone a shepard of one world.

fucking new page, damn it

Thanos has cold-cocked Galactus; I seriously doubt he'd be led along by a single Asgardian.

Masters of Evil and the Sinister Six are the only villain teams with remotely prominent villains. Even then, a good portion of the members of the masters of evil are pretty weak.

I would still say go with Ultron in the second film, with a bit of Thanos and his thralls working in the shadows, and then do The Infinity Gauntlet in Avengers 3.

Who knows, maybe by the time 3 comes around, they can get the license to the FOX owned properties, and have a true epic marvel crossover movie.

To be fair, Hela is no simple Asgardian, and has greater power than even Odin.

But yeah, Thanos has defeated not only Galactus, but all the cosmic entities including Eternity itself. Only reason he ever loses is because he subconciously wants to lose.

I put Hela in that role she would better explained in the MCU than 'death herself', with Asgard already established.

In that sense, you could make Hela a minion of Death. Would be a great way to tie Thanos into Thor 2.

Any chance Avengers 2 will rehash the Infinity Gauntlet story?

It's possible, especially if Thanos really is the main villain.

The scale of that story is so epic, though, and Thanos so powerful a villain, that there really isn't anywhere to go but down from there. That's why I'd rather they save it. Whedon himself said that he put Thanos in because he is the ultimate bad guy in the Marvel Universe.

That could work. Hard to set-up without short-changing Hela or Thanos, both major players.

If Fox and Sony collaborated with Marvel Studios on this, making War of Gems a cross-production venture - it would end the world in awesomeness. There would no longer be a need for comic-book movies.

Only thing bigger is a live action Marvel vs DC with all legacy actors intact.

Carol Denvers could be introduced as a SHIELD agent who gets infected by leftover Chitauri tech to set-up Ms Marvel in Avengers. I would also like to see She-Hulk for another fun snippy character.

Or because he's fighting Squirrel Girl.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MFz0z7jVEK...+vs+Thanos.jpg


Nobody fucks with Squirrel Girl.

Nobody.

I put Squirrel Girl on my team in Kalyx's thread, for that reason.

Kind of cheating tbh, as it's an instant win.

The First X-Men:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17mn...g/original.jpg

Prequel, showing that Logan started a team to combat mutant haters before Xavier formally created a team. Kinda pretentious but it might be fun.

BOOOOOOO. There is just so much wrong with that whole concept.

Stop with the goddamn X-Men prequels, for Christ's sake!

I thought the whole appeal of Wolverine was that he wasn't a team player in the first place, a selfish loner who didn't take up any cause, then grew into the role as he went. If he was calling the shots on his own team before the X-Men were even a thing, then that's......pretty much undoing the entire point of the character. This is like finding out Han Solo was a leader of the Rebel Alliance before running into Luke and Obi-Wan; pointlessly retconning one of the core elements of what the character is and why people like him.

It has Sabretooth, though. Which itself raises a lot of questions but whatever.

Ugh. Wish Sabretooth would stay dead for more than a month.

Was sorting my collection the other day and found this. totally forgot I owned it. Have always loved the Inhumans.
http://i49.tinypic.com/3089ixi.jpg

http://instinctmagazine.com/blogs/bl...rectory=100011

Marvel Makes It Official On 'The View': Northstar Will Marry His Boyfriend In Historic X-Men Issue

Using the chatty mouths found on the ladies of The View (of all places) to make one of its biggest announcements in years, Marvel made it official on Tuesday morning: Northstar will propose to and marry his boyfriend Kyle in a landmark story arc for The Astonishing X-Men.

First teased with a mysterious "Save the Date" issued in March, it has since been speculated by countless fanboy sites and industry blogs that Northstar would be the character tying the knot. The announcement on The View today put an end to the churning of the rumor mill and gave a thumbs up to everyone's best guess. For the first time in Marvel's history, two men will marry.

"In Astonishing X-Men #50, gay X-Man Northstar will propose to his boyfriend Kyle, with a marriage in an upcoming issue," Whoopi revealed on Tuesday's episode. “That’s kind of amazing," she added. “When I was a kid and I used to read these magazines, you never saw an array of people."

Issue #50, the proposal, will hit stands tomorrow with the marriage issue slated for #51 in June. (Yay! A June wedding!)

Though I always cry at weddings, this one, if you don't mind me outing myself as a lifelong comic book geek, will unhinge the flood gates. The X-Men universe was my playground in young childhood, my escape from bullying in my pre-teen and teen years and my nostalgic way to relax in the evenings in these, my adult years. It's not exactly coincidental that right around the time Northstar said "I am gay" in 1992 I, for the first time, considered echoing those words.

Oddly enough, being able to relate to the X-Men always helped me feel normal. With my nose stuck in between the pages of each and every issue, deeply inhaling the musky scent so that as many senses as possible were able to experience the story, I finally did fit in somewhere, no matter whatever the kid up the street shouted my way.

Twenty years after Northstar came out of the closet, I still know firsthand the significance of what having an out X-Man marrying his boyfriend will mean to the countless young LGBT. It's a landmark moment in pop culture, a storyline decades in the making for Marvel and a watershed for comic book fans young and young at heart alike. Kids outside the bubble of politics (a world that itself has rapidly evolved toward marriage equality in recent months) will finally have a major mainstream and accessible character making his dreams of marrying his partner come true. If Northstar can marry his boyfriend, why won't they be able to in the near future?

It may seem fun and trivial and no more than a pop culture meme destined to fizzle as soon as the honeymoon ends, but let me assure you: the moment Northstar slips that ring on his boyfriends finger, gay kids around the world will be forever changed.

Will they suddenly turn straight?

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god damn Iron Man's villains suck

Yeah, but


COLDBLOOD?



Shitty as his villains are, they could do a lot better than some 90's cliche. Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo, Firepower....

Fuck, after seeing how they turned whiplash into such an awesome character, I would have even taken Blizzard.

But COLDBLOOD?

I had to ggogle that fucker. And I know me some shitty Iron Man villains.

they should call him Otto Von Ruthless for the movie

But anyway I have not heard of Coldblood either, but that is a pretty sweet costume he's got.

Who is going to be the villain in Captain America?

Batroc the Leaper?

How about the Gamecock?

http://www.rapsheet.co.uk/Images/Cha...s/Gamecock.jpg

Actual Captain America villain btw.

I had to google that because it did not sound like a real person.

they should have the villain be Robot Hitler I think. ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO ROBO HITLER

whoa, Captain America also has awful villains

although I'm pretty sure Robo Hitler is gold, someone email Marvel

Should just scrap the cap 2 movie and make Robo Hitler vs Mecha Roosevelt.

Mecha Roosevelt should probably just replace Hulk in The Avengers line-up

how dumb did people think whiplash was going to be and how did that turn out?

Point.

Odds are he's going to be a secondary villain anyway, if Kingsley really is the Mandarin.

Still

Cold blood?

It's not a bad name though.

they should have gotten Phillip Seymour Hoffman to play him as Truman Capote

Third villain, Firepower, apparently going to be added to Iron Man 3

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/iron-m...-a-new-villain

Firepower and Cold Blood will not get along

Is it likely they'll just be henchmen for The Mandarin or something?

Marvel Characters, Disney Style:

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17nq...g/original.jpg

I'm ok with some but not all.

Ya feel me? Though Deadpool...fucking Deadpool

Deadpool made me laugh in that pic.

Deadpool is violating Kitty's innocence.

Colossus violated that years ago.

Kind of shocked that people still remember Marrow.

Don't remember seeing her in anything since she appeared in an X-Factor arc a few years back.

That looks a lot like the X-Men Evolution style.

Iron Man 3 Movie Set Pic (villain):

Well...

WTF? how can they work that out? the character that wears that is owned by sony... soooo how can they use it?

I had this discussion with my nephew A week ago and Its been paraphrased on the Venture Bros. but Marvel really does come in second to DC in terms of badass villians IMO (keep in mind I am a comic book fan period therefore I have no real bias)storytelling and Character-wise I mean they have me actively reading Animal Man.

Perhaps a strange but sensible loophole like the Magneto kids. Think about it, would Osborne be allowed to use a Stark suit in the new Spidey trilogy? Like I mused about Magneto's kids, this setup yields the least questions in the mainstream eye, in the same way Witch/Quicksilver being in X-Men movies would be more acceptable than in an Avengers movie.

I must emphasize; 'in the mainstream eye'.

Fucking fuck! I'm happy to see any pictures from IM3!!!

Easy...Norman doesn't exist in this universe. They stick someone else in the suit. It's really not hard.

I like both companies but if anything..one of the most common complaints I hear about DC from fans and haters alike..is the crappy gallery of villains. With the exception of some, there really is not much going on. In Marvel, the villains are more legendary..often..being more popular than the heroes.

uuuhhhhh no not that easy. Norman Osborn is Iron Patriot. Thats like saying the same exact thing for green goblin or the venom symbiot

No it's not. Green Goblin and Venom are iconic villains in the marvel universe. Iron Patriot is an Iron Man suit that Osborn wore for a few months.

Not that big a deal.

Completely disagree.

First off, as far as storytelling goes, it doesn't matter if it's marvel or dc. That comes down to the writer. I do think it's easier to write character driven stories in Marvel, because that was the whole basis of silver age Marvel, and it still shows today.

I will give DC credit in that they typically do the big epic crossover better.

Most of the DC universe doesn't do anything for me, but there's a lot of Marvel stuff that sucks me in.

ok so spiderman wore an ironman spider suit for a couple of months so then they shouldnt have a problem using that on too?


and its not just the goblin who is iconinc, but norman is just as iconic and he IS the iron patriot

The Spidey Suit looks like Spider-man so it wouldn't make sense. Anyone can throw on the IP armor.

It doesn't matter how iconic osborn is, the Iron Patriot suit isn't. It wasn't even originally designed for Osborn. The suit first showed up as just some random Iron Man art, and like a year later they used it for Osborn.

If you seriously have beef with this, then you probably hated IM 2, considering Whiplash was actually an amalgam of Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo.

What Figgy and me are saying is the Iron Patriot armor showing up in an Iron Man movie makes more sense and causes less drama than, say, Norman busting it out in Amazing Spider-Man 3. Which raises more questions? Stark armor in a Stark movie or it being in Spider-Man, which would look strange no matter what the 616 history says.

And there's a underlying thread of patriotism in the MCU, where an Iron Patriot appearance would yield 'good' drama - if anything but for the countless Cap references RDJ can improve in a post-Avengers period. Norman as Iron Patriot would make Reavant and 14 others feel good but I tell you it would not work.

It's Iron Patriot here or not at all in movies.

Also, from a legal standpoint, the Iron Patriot Name and Costume probably has a separate trademark from Osborn, considering it was created after Sony aquired the Spidey license.

You gotta know when to bend for these movie adaptations, this much I learned since comic movies really picked up. Some mix-ups are blunders (Dr. Doom), others are fairly reasonable (Wolverine and Sabretooth established unambiguously as brothers in the XM movie-verse).

Also, that might not even be a villain. Might actually be stark making a promotional appearance ala the stark expo, and they made it like the Iron Patriot as a bit of fan service.

Certainly there were discussions, Marvel Studios isn't that sloppy. If Witch/Quicksilver is anything to go by, they're ready to avoid any legal missteps ahead of time.

And Sony more than likely has no interest in Norman's Iron Patriot stint with so much Spidey history they can draw from for many more movies.

Yeah could be an easter egg deal. People aren't even sure if the guy in the pic is an actor or a stuntman. And I found it weird that they would actually have an actor in a fully armored scene, which is what that scene looked like.

Looks like it's only from the waist up.

Speaking of Norman Osborn... I hope that if he shows up in any Amazing Spider-Man sequels, they find some way to adapt his ICONIC hairstyle into the movie.

Plus besides comic fans, who knows of Iron Patriot? He was just a brief alter ego.

He has mo-cap tags on his legs, guess they'll be in post.

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bah no you dont get it... I could care less how the movies adapt characters as long as they work....
This is where my problem is.... If they can get away with this without pissing sony off then where exactly is the line?

I really don't see a complication or slippery slope.

To that I say, if we get a badass Iron Patriot armor in the new IM movie, then who cares where the line is?

Just noticed that armor on the forearms and shoulders looks more like war machine.

Could be an alt-suit Easter Egg for Rhodey even.

It's obviously not going to be Norman Osborn inside the suit and is probably a completely different character. Could be Tony Stark suited up for a 4th of July party for all we know.

So I doubt Sony care.

Will probably be expensive as heck.

I do not own any of the movies, though. So a collection would be "cool".

Aleady have Thor and Cap on Blu Ray, IM1 & 2 on DVD but that does sound like a cool set.

I think I might own the first Iron Man, but this set sounds pretty fantastic.

The rumor I've been hearing is that inside the Iron Partiot suit is Coldblood.

I only own Iron Man 2, so I'll definitely be dropping the cash for that set.

Hey I heard Green Lantern likes the meat sticks now.

honor your word :foc:

oh wait...I see what you did here

I was just thinking... how I wish Chris Hemsworth was popular back in the day when they were casting for sabretooth in wolverines movie. I really think he could have pulled it off considering he can actually act and hes also big like sabretooth and kind of looks like him.

He was a kid back then. X-Men was over ten years ago.

wolverines movie

Oh. He'd still come off looking much younger, though. But I can see it. I do like Liv.

I liked the way liv talked and the way he delivered lines, but its hard getting over the physicality of his character... or the lack there of.


and i dont know how much younger he would have looked. He was kirks dad in the new star trek the same summer that wolverines movie came out

A young father, though, and a promoted captain (for 5mins).

Bear in mind Sabertooth is the older brother.

all he has to do is grow his beard out and he looks much older