You know, "616's Reed's" expression looks a bit "satirical". Something about it made me think it's a fake surprised look.

I haven't actually read any Ultimate stuff. I think somewhere, I have a DVD full of a whole lot of it that I downloaded once.

Ultimate is the goods for the most part. Ultimates 1 and 2 are some of my favorite books. Ultimates 3, along with Ultimatum are the drizzling shits, however.

I read ultimate avengers, and that was really good, so they seem to be back on track.

Ultimate Spider-Man is always kind of a mixed bag for me. I really liked Peter Parker's personality and his banter (I haven't read Miles Morales yet, so I don't know whether I like him), and some of the takes on the villains and supporting cast are really good. However, there are a lot of things that never cease to irritate me, like the Goblin looking like the Hulk, Doc Ock having weird Magneto powers, Uncle Ben being a hippie, Carnage eating Gwen Stacy and then basically pooping out a new one later, etc. The first few volumes are definitely worth checking out, though.

I liked the whole Peter/Kitty thing. Should have drawn that out longer.

Loved his encounters with kingpin.

On a related note, does anyone know what issue of 616 spider-man that he beats living shit out of kingpin for trying to kill aunt may? It was like right after he revealed his identity.

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Was out yesterday and like a boss, remembered that I wanted to buy AvX Round #2 one stop before the comic shop. Get off and go in and look and only see AvX #1 and I am all like "what the hell, they can't be sold out that fast" so I pick up AvX #1 and read the finally panel "To be continued...in TWO weeks" muttered "fuck sake" under my breath and proceeded to browse a bit more.

Think I am going to go back and get that variant cover (or hell, all of them) since it is the first series I have got into.

the New Avengers issue involving the behind the scenes part of the AvX is pretty cool

Just read the first 8 issues of Wolverine and the X-men and I love it.

Such a breath of fresh air from the deathly serious x books we've been getting the last few years. Legit has made me laugh out loud at parts, and is in general just a really fun book. Highly recommended, though Bachalo's art style isn't everyone's cup of tea. I'm a fan, personally.

^ Think I may look into this as well.

I absolutely hate the art... its horrible

How did I miss this? And Eliza Dusku is voicing She-Hulk. The flying guy from Heroes is doing Iron-Man in a cameo (he's Stark in the Iron Man anime).

X-Factor is pretty wonderful. Gratz to Lock Jaw for the recommendation.

How far along is X-Factor? This issue every two weeks shite is not making me happy.

Pretty deep. The series I'm reading may have ended in 2010, not sure. I'll check later. I'm reading the 2005 X-Factor series and it went like 200 something issues in.

Wait, naw. I think it's still going. Gonna take me awhile to catch up. Only at issue #15

Like I said before, I think it went up to #50, then renumbered with #200. No idea where it is at now, since I am way behind.

Ill have a look during my next shop visit. Unless a torrent can be provided.

Marvel just dumped pretty much all of their animated movies on Netflix. Win.

Wasn't there already stuff on there?

Their TV stuff from the 90s and 2000s, but their animated movies were not there before. Planet Hulk, Hulk Vs, Ultimate Avengers 1 and 2, Next Avengers, Dr Strange, Invincible Iron Man, and Young Thor.

Only because it got renumbered. I think it hit issue 50, then picked up the numbering of the original X-Factor series so skipped straight to 200. By my count that means the current series has been running for maybe 85-ish issues and is still going.

Good series, but I've fallen way behind with it.

Holy shit. 25 issues in on Joss Whedon's run of Astonishing X-Men and I've loved every second of it so far. I'm a sucker for the Kitty storylines though. Also, Cyclops really gets developed as a character much more than I've seen so far. They do an incredible job of playing off of his bitterness spawning from Jean and his slight jealous towards Logan.

Yeah Astonishing's early runs were terrific.

Whedon's run on astonishing, is for my money, the best run on a book in the last decade. After he and cassidy left, the book was garbage. Hated the new artist, and the dialogue and character interactions were cardboard and boring.

Though Brubaker's run on Captain America is VERY close.

Yeah, started reading Astonishing #25 and wanted to fucking puke. I love Joss Whedon because he uses EVERY tool at his disposal for the most part. He doesn't just focus on the top-seller characters, he develops everything and everyone relevant. Really makes for a great experience.

Might start reading Runaways soon. Read #1 a couple days ago.

Runaways was pretty good, but never got quite as good as the first volume.

Wait what...?

what is that from?

I meant what book.

Secret Scars or some shit.

I take it's a sequel to Secret war?

I've got the hardcover of that one. Phenomenal artwork. This, not so much.

Don't think so. Deals with SHIELD quite a bit, and introduces the mainstream Nick Fury (as 616 Fury's son) and Agent Coulson.

That is......that's so goddamn stupid I want to hit someone.

So is Samuel L. Jackson Nick Fury coming into the 616 universe?

Nads texted me last night and since I got a new phone I didn't know who it was, all it said "What you doing tomorrow?" While waiting for a response I fell asleep and woke at 530am and responded.

Don't know why I thought I would get a response that early, anywho, probably heading to Giant Robot to pick up AvX #2 today.

Introducing Agent Coulson makes a lot of sense, but having Nick Fury have a black son who looks pretty damn old already, and is also missing an eye, makes no sense. Retcons ahoy!

I might be "out" after the first AvX "fight" comic. Pretty fucking stupid, to be honest. i don't know what I was expecting but god damn, it is just so dumb.

Oh that's from Battle Scars

I kinda like Secret Scars as a title, still.

Someday Kalyx.

But yeah, I guess that's Nick Fury's son Marcus Johnson, I don't think he was always bald or patch'd.

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Been hopping around series like a madman but that's the way I like it. Decided I wanted to catch up with Spidey so I'm starting Amazing Spiderman from Brand New Day (Issue #546). If there's any single issues or storylines I should read or catch up on before 546, let me know. I've never followed much of the web head before cause it seemed a bit intimidating jumping in to a huge numbered series like that.

I jumped on to spiderman during the Back In Black storyline.I think you should give that a read. It's got some decent stuff in it which I was disappointed to see retconned out.

That being said I was certainly a fan of the brand new day "villain of the month" formula. It let a ton of great artisits and writers work together and tell some fun stories. In fact it was this that got me back into reading comics full time.

I think the only really lame thing to happen in Spiderman in the last few years has been origin of the species. One moment in time was kind of a disappointment, but Origin is just the worst.

New Spidey trailer is nice.

Did not enjoy spidey from the clone saga all the way to brand new day. Exception being when he went public with his identity. Thought that would freshen up the character, and give him lots of new types of stories to work with, but One More Day cancelled it out.

I want to say that I like the idea of Pete not being with MJ anymore, but the execution and fallout of the story was abysmal.

I still don't even understand how that works in relation to all the other books he's in.

Halfway through spider island and it's pretty great, I gotta say.

I am not all the way through Brand New Day, but have to say that I loved it since the beginning. Way more "interesting" and "compelling" than any other Spidey I had read.

The side books like Venom and heros for hire tell the story of spider island better than the spiderman books

Yeah. Really love the visuals they're creating. In terms of colour palette and what have you. It looks comic book-y without looking totally fake. And I continue to love Andrew Garfield as Parker.

The slow motion skateboarding tricks give me a little pause. I'm still in, though.

Just watched Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance. Wasn't brilliant, but wasn't as bad as a lot of reviews made it out to be. Not really better or worse than the first one, either.

My biggest complaint, similar to the first movie, is that there's really not enough of Ghost Rider cutting loose. All the fights consist of him whipping his chain around and riding his motorcycle. I mean, he defeated Blackout in about a minute, and he even beat the devil guy (can't remember what he was calling himself) with no fight whatsoever.

Not a hater of Nicolas Cage, but I never really thought he was right for this role.

But on a positive note, the CGI is pretty good. Especially the Rider himself. He looked pretty fucking awesome. Kinda wish he'd spoke a bit more, and thought his Penence Stare was pretty crap. The first movie got it right, with the glowing eyes, the flashbacks of the evil stuff the villain had done, but here, he pretty much just looks and growls at people while they look scared, but the non-GR fans will have no idea what's going on. This is especially the case with the fight with Blackout.

Overall, it was alright. Nothing amazing, but then anyone who actually goes into a film about Ghost Rider expecting The Dark Knight deserves nothing less.

I liked it better than the first.

AAAAAND just finished watching X-Men: First Class. Now I'm fully up to speed with my Marvel movies.

Fucking loved this movie. Ah, I remember how we all mocked it when it was first announced, and how Magneto with his helmet looked stupid in that picture. But this movie was awesome. After one viewing I'm not gonna say it's better than the others since I've enjoyed all the X-Men movies (Including 'Last Stand' and Wolverine), but this was definitely a great movie, which ended perfectly setup for a sequel.

Felt really tragic and sad throughout the whole movie, knowing how things will ultimately end up. Very much like how powerless we all felt watching the Star Wars prequel trilogy, knowing that Anakin will eventually turn into Darth Vader.

I have only one issue with this movie. Only one. It's small, it's silly, and it's really meaningless, but it's also fucking huge to me that from the moment I saw it, I couldn't stop thinking about it!!!

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Just thought Beast looked really stupid and goofy in this movie! I can understand they were trying to capture more of a 90's-look Beast, before his mutation fully evolved and he looked more animalistic, but it really didn't translate so well on the big screen in my opinion. 'Last Stand' Beast looked fucking awesome, 'First Class' Beast looked really cheap and goofy.

Overall though, great fucking movie! Sequel apparently starts filming in January 2013! Can't wait for this! :love:

So, with the recent success of Thor, Captain America, *ahem* Ghost Rider *ahem*, X-Men: First Class and of course The Avengers, and with Spider-Man just around the corner, this is why Marvel is so far ahead of DC when it comes to movies.

Yes, DC has the Batman trilogy, but once The Dark Knight Rises is out, their hype machine will likely die down a little.

Marvel on the other hand, are already well on their way to giving us another Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, FUCKING AVENGERS and X-Men, and surely we haven't seen the last of Spider-Man. Plus we have The Wolverine, which will hopefully have some kind of reference to the X-Men movies, since it's pretty established now that despite continuity errors, these movies are all part of the same X-Universe.

Great fucking times ahead for Marvel fans. :D :D :D :D :D

P.S. Someone posted this on a previous page, but it's a good point to bring up. It's really sad that something I got ridiculed and mocked in school for reading and collecting has now become a worldwide sensation.

P.P.S. On the other hand, it's great that two of the biggest, highly-anticipated movies this year, and of recent years, are both comic book movies. Considering the state the comic world was in 15 years ago, it's really cool to see how huge these things, the comics themselves and the movies, have become. :)

Yeah, it's a good time to be fans. I'm happy non-readers can enjoy it, too.

The next Superman movie comes out next year I believe.

But so far, DC have only really been able to have success with Batman. No doubt this will get hype because it's Superman, but still, Marvel are just way ahead of DC at the moment in terms of movies.

Reason why DC can't get any traction going with Superman is their afraid to let him beat the holy shit out of a Supervillian that can beat the holy shit out of him.

That doesn't quite make sense, to me. I think I get what you're saying, but please explain if you can, just to confirm if I understood correctly or not.

Shadow not making sense

In other news, candy apparently tastes good. More at 11.

We don't know what the formula is for Superman in Hollywood. He had two incredible movies decades ago. And he, literally, only just came back in 2006 with something good but not quite what fans were expecting. We can't say what the problem is for certain, we can only guess.

I doubt it's because he doesn't beat people up, but it may be a factor. They should look to Superman of the DCAU to see what really sticks. Superman's World of Cardboard speech at the finale is something I think fans and mainstream can agree with for a Superman.

Hollywood appears to not want Superman to throw down on a villain for some reason. And it's a damn shame because there's a few in his gallery that could give him a nice punch up fight. That's what I'm getting at.

He fought Zod in the second Superman movie decades ago. And then a rather dirty brawl with Nuclear Man. He's also had a few scuffs in Smallville.

It is very sad to see DC not be able to pull of films to the capacity that Marvel has. Kinda funny, because as of late I have been getting into DC much more. Going back and reading important stories and what not.
I feel like DC at times are a bit too conservative with their characters perhaps?
My problem with Superman is that I want to see him fight a villain that will push him to the edge. Sort of what Shadow is saying.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I've always been saying. Really wanna see Superman vs. Doomsday on the big screen. Sick of seeing Lex Luthor and other humanoid villains.

But ultimately I feel DC just doesn't have the roster for mainstream audiences. Other than Batman and Superman, I really don't think non-comic fans care about other DC characters. I mean, I don't think anyone really cared about Blade all that much before his movies came out, but DC just can't seem to get it right when Batman isn't involved. I mean... why was there a Catwoman movie before Green Lantern? And why does Johan Hex even have a movie to begin with?

Hopefully the success of The Avengers will show DC that their big movies don't need to be "dark, gritty, and 'realistic'"

Same was said about Iron Man, once. He was a B/C lister, now he's a superstar.

DC should stick to dark and gritty.

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Still hate Chris O'Donnell.

@ Ramm: No they shouldn't. Showing wacky examples means nothing. Marvel has blunders as well.

Well, yeah of course. Jeez don't take that post too seriously! :p

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Rebecca Hall from the Prestige will be in Iron Man 3.

I still say they put the nipples on the wrong sidekick's costume.

I wish they make a movie of Lady Punisher...

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Ew.

That's so disgustingly 90s I don't even... :nono:

Care to tell us why?

Great workrate.

I think it would be interesting to see a female Punisher and see how much destruction she can do.

Stupid.

They've already done that movie and it failed miserably.

Considering Punisher does everything with guns, and not super-powers or martial arts or whatever, wouldn't the amount of destruction a female Punisher doled out be exactly the same as the plain old regular Punisher?

Except she's a female. She will do as much emotional damage as physical.

lol so sad that that's not a terrible departure from how some writers depict female characters.

Plus regular Punisher isn't obscure enough for DLVH.

Japanese Punisher is better

A Japanese Female Punisher set in the 1950's.

If Marvel REALLY wanted to make money, they'd get started on a 3-D Man movie.

Mangaverse Punisher

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Jesus, I hope that's not a real thing.

Oh it is.

Iron Man 3 - May 3, 2013. Thor 2 - November 15, 2013. Captain America 2 - April 4, 2014. All confirmed.

Avengers 2 will likely be in 2015 then. As before, it seems Cap's movie will precede the team-up.

Iron Man 3 has been reported to adapt the Extremis storyline, the book itself something of a reboot for Iron Man years ago with his mainstream sleek armor and added powers. It deals with a nano-machine version of the super-soldier serum, which would make it topical with the MCU. The Mandarin, or some version of him, will be the villain. Expect requisite new armor and possible new abilities that makes Stark rather superhuman.

Thor 2 was spoken of to include other worlds, and explore Thor and Loki's brotherhood following Avengers. Jane Foster and Dr. Selvic will return. No word on the Warrior's Three and Sif, though I think they're likely. Also no word on the villain. There was lots of interest by both Chris and Tom about Loki's possible redemption, jury's out on how much of their input will be added to the story.

Cap 2 sees Steve still the man out of time working with SHIELD. Kevin Fiege revealed that he may meet old allies from his old time. Bucky's actor as signed for multiple pictures though there was no talk of Winter Soldier. With the SHIELD angle, Nick Fury, Hawkeye, and Black Widow are likely to appear. The comics show that Hydra is still alive and well in modern times. Explaining Winter Soldier's longevity would also be a good time to expand on Nick Fury's allusion to his actual age - as well as Black Widow if they adapted that part of her comic version.

The new macro-arc may involve Thano's presence. Since the last major arc was the Avengers coming together, using SHIELD and Nick Fury as the thread, these new movies could be connected by indirectly connected villains. It helps that unlike many other superhero movies, villains aren't killed off as much. Tony's rival Justin Hammer is alive and vowed revenge. Red Skull is still out there in the universe, his super-soldier serum may have helped him age well. Loki lives, of course, as do an entire planet of Frost Giants who had their king killed by an Asgardian (and what is Loki's place in that kingdom technically speaking?).

So let's talk villains then:

The Mandarin's presence was made known in the Iron Man movies, with the Ten Rings adapted as a international terrorist organization. Whiplash received his forged papers to head to Morocco by a Ten Rings agent (confirmed by Word of God). The Mandarin is the likely payoff to these hints. With my theory that the underpinning of these movies will be the villains at work, how does he fare in the larger universe? Well if he's the head of this terrorist regime in the MCU, he most likely got on SHIELD's radar long ago. Tony's not an agent of SHIELD, so his knowledge of them is as good as any civilian. Facing the Mandarin may force Tony to cross paths with SHIELD once again.

In Thor 2, Loki is likely bound and chained as a prisoner. Odin would never sentence his son to death, and you kinda wanna keep a character as awesome as this alive (or...). This also jives with interest in redeeming him, which is in any case a common comic book trope. Thor 2 is important since the Infinity Gauntlet was last seen in Thor, and it is a major item in regard to Thanos. There are plenty of Thor villains that can be used as the main threat in Thor 2, namely The Enchantress and Executioner. But bear with me on this; that Thanos could make is full reveal within Thor 2 itself. His acquisition of the gauntlet simply isn't something to leave between movies, and may be too major an event to slip in a post-credits scene or even DVD extra short film. Also, and most curiously, if Thanos would make an 11th hour appearance as in Thor 2 - would Loki's redemption be in the form of sacrificing himself against this major threat?

While we're still talking Asgard, I wonder what would the rules be as far as death is concerned in the MCU. You see, Agent Coulson was killed by an Asgardian - so would that make him available to Hela's domain? Under certain circumstances, one can return from the dead if Hela can be convinced...

On to Cap 2, as mentioned Hydra may still be around. There a few Cap villains to use in that regard, but I can't help but think about Winter Soldier. Cap 2 is said to invoke espionage. I see this as a super-powered Tom Clancy movie, rich with historical revelations of dark politics. This is certainly perfect for Winter Soldier who was modeled into a Russian assassin, which may have been Black Widow's fate once upon a time. But wait, since we're talking international intrigue let's go back to The Mandarin and his Ten Rings outfit. Is the Ten Rings related to Hydra? Perhaps an evolved form? A spin-off? Do they know of each other? How about Red Skull returning to reclaim his army? What has he seen in the void that drove Loki so far (assuming his fate was similar to Loki's). Red Skull doing some world hopping and appearing in Cap 2 would tie Cap to the larger cosmos, which is what needs to happen in some way if this 'villain-focused thread' is to be followed.

And as for Avenger 2... Thanos may not be the main villain after all. My final theory points the finger at Hela herself. Once again somebody from Thor's life may come to wreck things. You see Whedon made clear that Thanos is intact in the MCU, love of death and all. But I think we can't go and introduce some intangible concept of death, even after the fantastical things the MCU has allowed. That leads me to Asgard's incarnation of the character: Hela. In the MCU Thanos is actually in love with Hela and she will use this to her advantage as a major villain. What's the plan? I can only guess... perhaps she wants to claim all human life. Maybe she wants to be bigger than a soul manager. But that's the best I got.

I could be wrong about all of my thoughts but based on what I know and heard, this is my view of the MCU going forward.

I really don't see Hela being the main villain in Avengers 2.

Just making guesses here, not betting a single dollar on any of the theoretical stuff!

I really don't want Thanos to be the main villain in Avengers 2. I'd much rather throw that onto Avengers 3. Let the Masters of Evil be our main bad guys for 2 and then bring it all together for 3 in one epic movie the likes of which we shall never see in our lives again.

I'd die a happy man.

I'm not really all that clued up on the comics, so can someone fill me in a bit. When does Captain America die? Is it in any of the story arcs that are being rumoured or speculated about being used in future movies? Just wondering because me and my friend were wondering if Whedon continues on with the Avengers movies, whether or not he'd be killing off other major characters at some point, as is kinda his way.