I'll show myself out.

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here's something much worse than Chyna porn

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much...much worse

Yeah, its a branding thing. Lisa Ann typically does higher end porn with bigger name companies and better branded actors and actresses. Working with Chyna is kind of a step back...

Like, you wouldn't have Charlie Sheen show up to host an episode of Superstars, yeah it might gain some type of media attention, but you'd have to use him for something bigger (thats what she said).

Maybe she is just a wrestling fan, and thrilled at the chance of being in a wrestling porn parody.

I mean thats definitely possible. I was just pointing out that its still could be surprising to see her with...Chyna....

Who the fuck is Paul

I like tag teams

I like divas

I like Triple H

makes sense to me.

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Yeah, anything that isn't focused on an eventual main event draw. Like the cruiserweight division is WCW. Very useful. People loved it. Should never have gotten a ton of segments on the show. It's a gimmick division. A great one. But you were never gonna headline your biggest show of the year with a cruiserweight title match or anything. Same with divas. Ideally, I'd have one segment devoted to the divas, one segment devoted to the cruiserweights and you can focus the rest of the show on the rest of the roster who are on the "main card". The part of the roster who can move around up to the main event and such.

I'm just speaking to divisions though. As for comedy wrestlers, I think it depends on their place. I think there's room for a guy like Santino and a guy like Brodus Clay on the same show. They both serve a purpose.

The divas division was a mess before. It has nothing to do with Kharma. It's just the way they're booked. Two women feud, squashing the rest of the roster in the process and then one of the "squashees" replace one of the "squashers" for a new feud and repeat. Eventually every diva has spent so much time getting squashed to make each other look good that no one really looks good.

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What's "bigger" for a porn star than working with a legit celebrity in a movie that's likely to make a lot of money (in terms of porn)?

Chyna is not a "legit" celebrity.

Tag Teams I understand. Honestly, I love looking at hot chicks, but if the Divas were completely taken away, would anybody notice?

Chyna is not a legit celebrity, first of all. Second of all, saying it'll "make a lot of money, relative to porn" is a moot point because thats not relevant. It's about protecting your brand.

Tom Cruise could star in a movie produced by WWE Films. Yeah, it'd make a good amount of money because of his name, but he'd never do that because it could harm the integrity that comes with his brand. When you get to a certain level of success in any arena, you can't be as accessible to everyone as you once might have been.

Lol I know I just compared porn acting with actual acting, but it definitely does parallel.

That's almost as ludicrous as comparing wrestlers to actors.

:lol:

"Protecting her integrity". She's a fucking pornstar. She takes cocks for a living.

Anyone know of any full-match footage of the Rollins/Punk vs. KOW match? All I can find are the angle leading up to it, the pinfall and aftermath.

Paul is referring to Paul "Triple H" Levesque. He thinks he is a big shot smark when he uses his real first name. Sadly, TheAdamEvansFan is not any of those things and the typical sack of shit that has become commonplace here on TPWW.

Oh, I forgot porn was riddled with celebrities fucking and therefore the standards for what makes a legit celebrity are really high...

Yeah, you're right. Lisa Ann needs to protect the high standard she's built up with such gems as that video she did for "PornStarsLikeitBig.com" a couple months ago. None of this lowering herself to starring in fuck films with mainstream celebrities.

Lisa Ann should have held out for a supporting role in the Prince William & Kate sex tape. She will never get that gig now. Porn career is pretty much over.

30 minute scene with Johnny Longschlong on "Mommy's Got Boobs" OBVIOUSLY protects her integrity more than a film with a mainstream celebrity for the biggest production company in porn. Duh!

so did everyone know Nicole Bass did lesbian dominatrix porn or what?

Yeah not clicking that. Thanks, though.

Should probably send it on to Hanso, though.

Do we do Impact chats? I wanna chat tonight. Let's do a live Impact chat. haven't seen Impact in a long ass time.

lol dude referred to Triple H as "Paul"

... said the woman who got fake tits and a facelift prior to having this picture taken. Perfect "be who you are" role model there, kids!

Kane is a Spaniard.

You both missed my point, but okay. I wasn't talking her PERSONAL integrity, I'm talking about her BUSINESS and BRANDING integrity. I'm not sure if either of you run your own business or have an understanding of protecting the integrity of your BRAND, but yeah, you missed my point completely, great work.

Regardless, commenting on her PERSONAL integrity in a negative way is pretty judgmental, but whatever.

I mean, you're mocking it obviously, but its big business. You seem to look at it like "WELL ITS ALL SEX ON CAMERA HURR HURR" but the companies you work with, the different reputations of such, all play a part. I was merely saying that Lisa Ann working with Chyna is surprising because Chyna. Is. Not. A. Mainstream. Celebrity. lol.

I understand you, Shadrick.

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Speaking of missing the point...

I'm not saying "It's all sex on camera"... I'm saying she's in a movie with a mainstream celebrity that is produced by the biggest porn production company there is and you're talking about it being below her, you dolt. lol

And Chyna is a mainstream celebrity. How the fuck is that even a discussion? lol Did she just get famous after she started doing porn? Seriously... come on...

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It's not a discussion. She's not a mainstream celebrity.

Flawless argument.

I am feeling ignored :'(

lol. It really isn't a discussion. Do you need me to define words for you or something?

We've had enough talk about Chyna's porn on 100,001 replies. Fuck whoever brought up the porn in the first place.

Keith. You got some splainin' to do!

She was a wrestler in WWE during it's most popular era, she's posed for Playboy, she's been on Howard Stern, she's done cameos on popular TV shows, she's been part of the cast on popular reality shows...

Ya know... all these things that aren't mainstream and are usually done by non-celebrities.

Jesus. lol

I feel like people are seriously too stuck in the "LOL ______ IS A SHITTY CELEBRITY." joke that they're unwilling to even admit someone is a mainstream celebrity. It's insane that that's even a question. You can't be serious.

All those things were like 13 years ago.

Elvis has been dead since the 70's.

Is he not a mainstream celebrity?

Did... did you just compare Chyna to Elvis fucking Presley? The hell are you smoking man?! :wtf:

That being said, Chyna is in no definition of the word a "mainstream celebrity". Mainstream means that you're basically a household name (i.e. John Wayne, Elvis Presley, George Clooney, Tom Cruise, etc.). Chyna is as much a celebrity as Snooki or Paris Hilton or basically any other mutant that people think is interesting just because they're an idiot on TV.

P.S. Chyna is one ugly bitch even with the plastic surgery. Just sayin'.

P.P.S. I have to wonder if HHH ever thinks back to his time with Chyna and just vomits in his mouth at the thought of that she-beast.

Did you read the context where STD implied that the time since someone has done something is relevant when it comes to someone being a celebrity?

Both mainstream celebrities.

Thank you for proving my point.

Your personal feelings on someone are in no way relevant to their celebrity status.

Sorry for not looking through the other 800+ pages.

Fuck me.

.......... Please tell me you're not serious......... Like seriously.........

Maybe it's just because of the country I'm in, but if you mentioned Chyna to someone, you'd either get a shrug or after some prompting, an "oh yeah, what the fuck is she doing now" where you can gleefully show them what she's doing now.

You can be a former celebrity, like reality stars who are no longer on TV. She easily falls into that category. People like Elvis are still "celebrities" because they manage to be in a segment of the populations thoughts regularly and are talked about. Nobody that I know or see online talks about her other than on here.

Chyna isn't even on the same level as Snooki and/or Paris Hilton.

She's at the same level as Screech from "Saved By The Bell", though.

Exactly. Go up to the next random person on the street and ask them who Chyna is and I'll bet you get a blank stare. Being a mainstream celebrity means that people outside of your fanbase know who you are.

Recognition wise no she's not, but she's every bit as much of a blight on society as they are. :yes:

"Paris Hilton and Snooki are not mainstream celebrities."

This is literally what you are saying right now...

And bullshit! Saying she's on the same level as anyone from Saved By The Bell is blasphemy!

So you're a big Paris Hilton/Snooki fan huh?

That's exactly what I'm saying. Hilton and Snooki are fads. 20 years down the line they'll be dead and nobody will care one way or the other who they were or what they "accomplished". (Yes I'm aware I'm being bias here but fuck anyone who likes Paris Hilton or Snooki. Not even joking I hope they get anus cancer. :foc:)

She's not nearly as famous as either of those two...

She has notoriety though. Blatantly obvious nototriety. Roughly Screech-level, yes but she branched out into the mainstream, thus making her a mainstream... celebrity...

Hmm... my logic has been exposed as flawed... no matter I shall continue to stand by my statement that they should both be fed to alligators and then have said alligators be launched into the abyss of space.

Branched out into the mainstream? :wtf: Uh when?

lol. Regardless of their need to be fed to alligators. Your hatred forcing you into a flawed logic backs up my theory of people confusing their hatred of celebrities with "They're not a celebrity".

On a serious note though Chyna is not a mainstream celebrity. Snooki and Hilton are (though they shouldn't be and I hope 2012 brings the end of the society that made them into celebrities). Like I said Chyna isn't known by anyone who wasn't a wrestling fan at some point and even most wrestling fans today don't recognize her unless they grew up in that era of wresting. She's a former wrestler cashing in on the fact that somewhere some idiot will buy her porno simply because he saw her compete in WWF.

See above...

Howard stern is not passable as mainstream today, and WWE no matter how much we wish it is not mainstream either. Playboy is where slutty 20 somethings go for a quick buck or washed up "celebrities" go to try and get some attention.

Mainstream means that someone knows who the fuck you are. 90% of the world will never even here about this porno and 70% of those that do will not even know who Chyna is. She's a wrestling celebrity but she's not mainstream period.

You've proven you have no idea what mainstream is by falling back into your admittedly flawed logic.

Howard Stern... come on. lol

If you're gonna call her mainstream then Edge must be mainstream too. Oh and Khali was in a movie so he must be mainstream too.

Again, she has mainstream notoriety. Especially in the context of the fucking porn business, she's a bonafide star. lol

Take one of the aspects I listed and use that while ignoring the others... Sneaky.

Does anyone on the planet even care about Howard Stern because last I checked no they did not. No one pays to see Howard Stern. No one pays to listen to Howard Stern. People might watch and listen to him but no one would pay just to see him and him alone.

Wait... I didn't even list her being in a movie as a reason... lol

You're falling even deeper into your "Personal opinion is everything" hole.

Yes people pay to listen to Stern. What the fuck?

There are plenty of porn stars who are more well known in that industry and porn really isn't mainstream so being a porn celebrity doesn't make you mainstream. Yeah she'll probably get some horny teenagers to wank to her vid but she's not getting any awards.

Not... even... what I said...

Good Lord...

You said TV show. Tomato tomato.... hmm that saying doesn't translate into text very well....

Your thousandth post... Just sayin'...

Uh yeah it is....

Neato hit 1k. Think I'll burn an effigy of Snooki to celebrate!

I did not list her being in porn as a reason she is mainstream.

The original reason for this discussion came from how she was a mainstream celebrity who went to porn. I was referencing that. Not using her porn career as a reason she's a mainstream celebrity.

So... Uh no it isn't....

Anyway though you're basically saying anyone who's ever been on TV is mainstream and that's a lie. Is she a celebrity? Yeah, but being a celebrity and being a mainstream celebrity are two completely different things. She's like Zack Ryder whereas someone who's actually mainstream would be like Cena.

Ah well I misread then. My apologies good sir.

Holy shit... lol

lol? You do realize that that is exactly what you're saying right? You used her appearance on tv and in wrestling as reasons for her being mainstream. She has the same drawing potential as HHH in that regard. She's not mainstream no matter how you spin it. WRESTING IS NOT MAINSTREAM! :roll:

Hmm... anyone else notice there are two Dark One's looking at this tread right now?

That's not exactly what I'm saying.

I listed certain things... some revolve around her being on TV. Again, you turn it into something completely different as "Anyone who has ever been on TV is mainstream."

No. But I would say that anyone who has been promoted and profited on via their celebrity status by multiple mainstream outlets, television shows and featured in the main cast of a popular celebrity based reality show (Despite your lack of being able to separate things that are viewed as "trashy" from the conversation at hand) can pretty much lay claim to being mainstream.

.......... No comment.........

Didn't think it was possible, but I think those creepy wrestler sex fantasy pictures would be better than the last several pages here.

Better?

Also, why is there a "Darkone" in this room right now, Dark One?

Does the guy at the local Walmart recognize Snooki? Yes. Does he recognize Miley Cyrus? Yes. Does he recognize *Enter random trashy bitch #24 here*? Yes. Does he recognize Chyna? No. I realize that trashy stuff can still be mainstream. My previous comments about Snooki and Paris were just me fucking around. Chyna isn't recognizable outside wrestling. She was used in other things but all that did was attract wrestling fans to watch those things. Do you really think that Joe Shmoe in Milwaukee tuned into that reality show because he saw Chyna's name on the roster? No he didn't.

To be fair Slater's hair is fucking amazing.

It doesn't matter what people tuned in specifically for. Once she is featured regularly on a MAINSTREAM television show, she becomes a MAINSTREAM celebrity. Moreso, when she is featured on that show BECAUSE she's a celebrity.

It's really that simple. The standards aren't nearly what you're making them out to be.

Your definition of mainstream makes no sense at all. mainstream means people recognize you. People don't recognize Chyna. She's not mainstream get over it. Just because you were on a few "mainstream" shows in the 90s/early 00s doesn't make you mainstream. Being recognized by millions no matter where you go does. Anyone can be mainstream by your standards if they just appear on the Real World.