See, I like how someone tells a story. Sometimes I think you can tell a great story in a really bad way. Everything is really Shakespeare, but not everything is good Shakespeare. I'm fine with rules being broken, but I get more annoyed when I get the impression that someone doesn't understand why that rule is there in the first place. You have to know them to break them properly, as it is in any art form. Wrestling is full of silly rules, you are completely right, but if you just stop and shrug off an Irish whip, I don't particularly get the point of it, because it just exposes how silly it all is. Sometimes things just get too cute and winky and it annoys me. I think wrestling being silly is more of a reason to not draw attention to silly things, not less.

Honestly Noid, Dick Beyer is one of the greatest masters of psycology in the history of the business, but if you thought about his matches as much as you're thinking about this spot, you could verbally destroy them.

What I'm saying is, maybe hit a blunt and chill your brain before you watch any wrestling. Because its clearly working overtime on something that really doesn't warrant it.

Okada did go flying across the ring when he missed, so there you go.

Isn't there a movement in India where if you aren't Hindi then they don't even count you as Indian? Isn't Mahal like Punjabi Sikh or something? And isn't each region of India radically different from the other ones?

I've only got a limited understand of India through family and friends -- I should really know more about it -- but I've always felt the whole "any Indian will do" idea that the WWE has to be kind of racist -- in a tokenism sort of way. I'd personally feel condescended if the WWE tried to tell me that Jinder Mahal was my national champion. If they put the belt on Buddy Murphy and tried to tell me that he represents all Australians, I'd rightly tell them to fuck off.

I think what bothers me about it is that it is heralded as great. I liked the first Omega/Okada -- it was a solid **** match to me (I hate rating things, but there you go). I think that even if you consider something flawless (which it can't be, even by fans' own admissions that the second match might have been even better), you need to give things time to breathe to determine that lasting legacy as to whether or not it is truly a ***** match. Austin/Bret you can probably do that with, because it was 20 years ago and we know what it did to Austin's career, etc.

I haven't seen the second match yet, but this sort of buzz around "Look at Omega fall down instead of taking the move he is being set up for" makes me want to not. I'm cool with things being flawed and people making mistakes and bad choices. Daniel Bryan has made mistakes in the ring. Whatever, it's cool. It's just the buzz around some of these annoying choices that puts me off.

It may not have even rubbed me the wrong way if it weren't shared as a gif for the yucks, honestly, but if that's the spot used as a teaser for the match, which I'm sure is great, then it actually puts me off.

I was just reminiscing on Shane Douglas (for some reason), and the idea to look up his finisher came to me. I was wondering if it could be used in a more stylized way as sort of a modified inverted stunner -- like how Austin's Stunner was different from a regular jawbreaker.

Anyway, the point is -- be careful when you look up "Shane Douglas Bareback" on Google Images.

Also sad is what the suggestion menu says when you just type in "Shane Douglas." :(

They'd been going for 50 minutes and Okada was clearly most interested in giving the biggest impact, so all his remaining energy is pulling him towards on the left side and pushing forward on the right hand clothesline, so Omega could drop. In the context of the match, it is an amazing visual.

I like that explanation, Hasney.

Still think it's a bit weak, but I will allow it to stand on its merits with applied context. This is why meme culture can be negative -- it's removed the context.

I think I'm going to redirect my WWE Network money towards New Japan. I want to support an alternative company.

Fuck I hated that match, haha. I get to the point of the double handspring and I check out.

It is the fireworks match to end all fireworks matches. All that oohing and aahing and at the end I'm done with it.

There is a guy around my part who wrestles under the name White Mike. He came off as a low rent Joey Ryan. No dick spots (thank god, I think that well is dry by now), but plenty of intentionally missed spots. Like opponent is 3/4s of ring away and he does a Swanton, missing by half the ring for lulz.

Eh, to each their own. It's just not for me.

How's Nakamura doing on SmackDown? I haven't watched in quite a while, but I was hoping he'd heat things up.

He's pretty much just another guy in the main event ranks.

Pretty much.

Debut was handled pretty well and so was keeping the mystic for his first match but his booking and build so far has made him feel as just another guy on the roster.

Then again Smackdown overall still feels as its trying to regain its groove that got messed up from the Shakeup.

I was never a Cody Rhodes fan. Liked him when he'd get a gimmick. "Disfigured" Cody was great. I liked Stardust. But when he was just Cody, he bored me.

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The guy is fucking money since leaving WWE though. If there was ever a glaringly obvious piece of evidence how much scripting and micromanaging guys makes wrestling shit...

This question may be a touch dark but

Who dies first Lex Luger or Tammy Sytch?

Xavier Woods on the origin of his trombone gimmick with New Day from Giantbomb's E3 night show earlier tonight:

He's an upper mid card guy. Still is. He hasn't exactly been putting on 4 star matches. He's a slightly less talented Dolph Ziggler.

Did Shinsuke infer that Dolph Ziggler would do a lot better in Japan on the latest Talking Smackdown show?

He's definitely an upper mid card guy. The difference is, he's a REALLY good upper mid card guy now. In WWE he was just another one of those generic guys in the upper mid card because everyone is booked/scripted the exact same.

He's really not done anything that impressive since leaving. His stuff as Dashing Cody Rhodes is miles better and more interesting than anything he's done now.

I fucking loved Cody and Goldust as a babyface team in 2013/14.

When they won the WWE Tag Team Championship from Seth and Roman...never forget. Almost got an erection from that shit.

I thought for sure they would beat the New Age Outlaws and defend the belts against The Usos at WrestleMania XXX. Whoops.

That initial Cody/Goldust run against the Shield and Goldust's big return etc was pretty awesome.

lol His promos and character just as regular old heel Cody now are miles better and more interesting than his promos and character just as regular old heel Cody in WWE. It's night and day.

That was actually a cool story. Once it was over though and they stopped feuding with The Shield, the charm of the team kinda wore off.

but Jim Cornette doesn't like Kenny Omega so Noid has to hate anything he's involved in.

Cody has been putting on the worst matches on an NJPW card fairly consistently. Hoping Okada can carry him like he did Fale.

Thank you

He just did the fucking dick spot with Joey Ryan. Fuckin eh Cody.

Joey Ryan's cock is so powerful that it could take down Brock Lesnar in a shoot fight.

Was he putting on 5 star classics in WWE that I was unaware of?

I remember people praising his Mysterio match at WrestleMania which was a match New Japan marks would think was pretty fucking abysmal if it happened there.

Also, when did Gertner become a workrate FBDV?

I can't tell if I like Cody's ROH stuff more than his NJPW stuff, or if it's the same but only seems worse in NJPW because of how stacked the cards are there.

This is mike adamle-levels of dumb.

#HeelNewstead

Absolutely adorable.

You seem to get sensitive when people point out the truth... why did you come back? You're just as miserable of a poster as you were before you left, adding haha and lol to your stupid novels doesn't make them funny. They're still cringe inducing.

Do you mean when they won the match for their jobs? That was the better match moment. Big Show pretty much ruined the tag team match by getting his cry baby face involved.

No. We wouldn't. His work up til now has not matchec his best in WWE. At least not in njpw. I can't speak on other companies he's worked for.

Just because we haven't been in impressed by his work thus far, doesn't automatically mean its because of smark nonsense.

I stand corrected.

His matches against Jay Lethal were as good as any matches he had in WWE at the very least.

As a personality though, he's a MILLION times better than he was in WWE. Which is the point I'm trying to make. When he had a gimmick like "Disfigured" or Stardust he was at least interesting and showed some personality. When he was just Cody, he was night and day compared to what he is now.

Dunno, but I remember thinking that Cody/Mysterio was match of the night at that Wrestlemania.

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Would have been better if it was invisible except for an outline of his head.

It might have been. It was a pretty terrible WrestleMania though.

In fairness, it's hard not to get sucked into Jim's POV, he's hella entertaining.

http://www.wwe.com/article/matt-hardy-second-child-born
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/article...rst-child-born

I didn't realize that WWE were making birth announcements when one of the superstars has a kid. Pretty cool.

Wonder if Wolfgang is going to have a WWE match (with outside interference by both Matt and Maxel) that makes *him* the youngest to have a match, much to the chagrin of Kevin Owens who takes "personal offense to child exploitation" in spite of him doing exactly the same thing with Owen awhile ago.

I can see this actually being a catalyst for a storyline. Or at least another anti-bullying video.

Not sure if TPWW knows of ANGAARTv

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Someone should have asked you this.

Ahahahaha

When did I leave?

You were not very active for the first half of 2016.

Just because I'm busy doesn't mean I left, It's not like I wrote a novel chastising everyone for liking something I don't and dramatically left...

You weren't really here though.

Was I not here all week when I barely posted either?

Nope

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AAA is airing in the U.K.

Been saying this for ever: if Don Muraco from 1981-83 were around today, he'd be the biggest thing in wrestling. Lol you HAVE to check out this hilarious promo on Pat Patterson from 1983. Slips in a early Patterson gay joke too.

Muraco is the greatest heel IC Champ of all time and it's not even close. He was money in 83. Pretty much carried the company since Backlund's wheels had fallen off.

Definitely watch this video.

Muraco is pretty shitfaced lol

lol Captain Lou

BOOOOOOORING!

Lol Captain Lou looks pretty smashed too

Ric Flair should manage Curtis Axel already, goddammit

Damn right. Best Axel was Payl Heyman Axel before Ryback stunk it up. Flair and Axel would be cool I think although I wish Axel was on Smackdown Live.

WWE Creative needs to stop eating placentas

Matt Hardy and Curt Hawkins just had babies so they might be full now.

YouTube is a fuckin time machine, off to WWE Network I go

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You sure it was Ryback's fault? You sure it didn't have something to do with WWE creative being horrifically bad and Curtis Axel being almost as bad?

I have a soft spot for Curtis Axel. He's a wonderful enhancement guy, in my opinion. He'd make a great bag-carrying henchman.

Axel was fine as a comedy jobber with Sandow. I love Simple Fan and respect him sticking with Impact like he has... but he's on record as saying Curtis Axel is better than his father was. I think he may overrate him a bit...

Dude, I wasn't making fun of you -- you're just a good barometer of dumb. Chill out and don't be so sensitive.

Haha, being compared to his father is what absolutely kills Axel.

Have to live the gimmick with my favorites. Better than Perfect was a "perfect" phrase for a heel Curtis Axel. Never really liked the guy as Michael McGillicutty but as soon as he debuted as Curtis Axel and embraced his lineage, I was a fan. WWE gave him a small push with the count out wins over HHH and Cena and I was hooked. Hate to see the guy not do anything because he can truly wrestle and can be entertaining given the chance.

What the fuck! I thought David Benoit tapped out ! What the fuck is going on here?

WWE Creative gets alot of the blame, pairing Ryback and Axel is a horrible idea. Axel is not the best on the mic but thats what Paul was good for. Guy can pull off the comedy stuff fine but does need a prop being serious I think. Flair with Axel could be comedic and serious at the same time I think.

Says the guy who can't handle when people enjoy things that he doesn't...:roll:

The resemblance is uncanny. I hope the kid get a fair chance irrespective of what his father did at the end of his life.

I think he ended Daniel's life. He was the special needs one.

If that's the real twitter page, the amount of retweets with respect to Chris Benoit is scary.

I mean, Mike Adamle's delivery may be a bit clunky, but Noid did in fact take his ball, and go home because people liked Alexa Bliss.

Gangrel is at a booth today the flea market here in London, ON.

I just read that he was the PWI Rookie of the Year in 1993.

This has a big chance of ending like this:

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Hey hey

Ho ho

Flea market

Pass him off as Ham Porter from the Sandlot's kid.

totally my thoughts. my buddy went down, paid $20 for a photo. He said there was a line. I said there must have been someone selling churros beside his booth and people got confused.

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:lol:

The amusing thing is Paul Ellering is still doing his thing 30 years later.