Chie in P4 is soft and caring P4G is a spazz and i hate her.

Its not saying the secret end game is bad because it was excellent im just not sure how anyone would ever find it on their own.

Yeah the teddie cast is solid and they added a bunch of bear puns so its a win

Kanji is much more aggressive at all times from the audio samples ive found in p4 than in p4g. Not sure if one is better or worse.

And to the earlier convo about p4 v p5 i do have to say while the sound track of p4 is excellent p5 is among the GOATs

Haha Chie is my least favourite of the golden gang and it's definitely a lot to do with the voice. The Kanji stuff is pretty odd because he just doesn't sound like Kanji in a couple of scenes, most of the time he's fine. Even when he's chill he's usually got this brash "loudness" to him, but his Rank 10 scene in particular he's so soft spoken it just doesnt feel right.

Agreed, P5 soundtrack is leaps and bounds ahead, nothing wrong with P4's at all but it's nowhere near as epic. That moment when Signs of Love doesn't play at home anymore is the one place P4's sound design really got me.

Not sure when I'll donp3. Wanna get a pallet cleanse in between. Maybe a month or so

If i could control my party members id be playing right now

I hope you like Tentarafoo.

I mean if my allies run away i might be better off lol

Finished God of War (PS4).

Hell of a story. Mopping up the last few trophies for the Platinum.

I'll either fire up Yakuza 6 for finish off Secret of Mana.

Set their tactics to knock down as soon as you can, then support on Yukari or another healer. Scan every single enemy, keep your Personas stocked to cover every element and always have a healer on hand. Never rely on your party, they really are dumb as fuck.

In non gaming news (since this is now the persona thread) i ordered the p4 anime

Haha I've seen a few clips, Yu is a very strange boy.

His lines are read so flat haha

Also he is voiced by the guy who voices ingame adechi...curious to see if they recast adechi

He's still Adachi from what I've seen, at least one character gets recast part way in due to the original VAs having scheduling conflicts. Baker went off to work on some project about fungal infections I believe.

P4G Chie too... :(

Terraria multiplayer.

Been fun as fuck. Anyone else play?

Why are you talking about Terraria in the Persona thread?

Fuck outta here with that off topic bull shit Icebox

Getting close to Crash coming to the Switch/XBox. So excited.

Started playing Tera. Hit level 40. Seems weird to play an MMO on a gaming console. The reason those games are fun is for the communication with others.

Going back to Secret of Mana to finish and hopefully platinum.

I will be getting a PS during the next set of new consoles wars. Whenever that is.

Played a little Splatoon 2 this afternoon, it's a lot of the same from the first game which is great. Loved the remixed music with similar motifs, noticed some slight improvements, though I did also notice that the lack of Gamepad really hurts. Splatoon 1 really was one of the few games that really utilized that gamepad well, how it had the map displayed on the gamepad and you could take a quick look at it to see which areas need to be inked and you could tap it real quick to travel to someone else's spot. Having to pull up the map on the TV is a whole lot slower.

Adapting WiiU games well is def a huge order. Splatoon imo is worse on the switch but its still really good.

Terraria still. Addictive as fuck

It's also still not Persona.

State of Decay 2 is the best worst idea I've had in recent history. Still the same "I'm just going to do this one thing..." that leads to three hours later time sinks that the first one had. And this time, I can invite friends to help collect shit.

I guess I can say I'm "officially" playing it now. Had the preorder so got the "four days early" thing to start.

Just started it last night and really enjoying it.

As am I. Still has some of the... annoyances... of the first, though. A friend of mine said "If they spent six more months on it, it could have been Game Of The Year." I'm inclined to agree. Already had some issues with graphical/engine hiccups... including an instance of teleporting through a ladder I was climbing into the building's interior and becoming stuck on furniture. The only way out was to join a friend of mine's multiplayer game and go back (after helping him out a bit, of course).

It does appear they did away with the "game world still runs while you're not playing" mechanic, which is nice on one hand, but also means you can't start a major construction project before you turn the game off for the session and expect it to be built when you start playing again tomorrow.

Multiplayer is handled fairly well and cool in a number of ways - chief among them is you actually aren't stuck with your initial pick. You can swap talent with anyone from YOUR own community reguardless if you are hosting or not. Just anything you put in storage goes to the host. Anything you get from storage comes from your box. So if you load up on painkillers and ammo, and then decide you don't need it, you're better off switching characters, or you're going to basically give up your own goods.

Items are sharable if you place them on the ground for another player to pick up, and the dropped item(s) are clearly marked.

Also, every player becomes color-coded, and different parts of the same environment become searchable to the person of the corresponding color (host is yellow, player two is blue, player 3 is green. I am assuming player 4 is red, but never got on with a fourth yet.) So, a house that originally had 3 diffrent pieces of searchable furniture can end up with like 10 or so.

You do have to stay about 400m in range of the host, though, or you'll disconnect (represented by a big orange ring on the map screen that, ironically, the host can't see). Kinda stops everyone from running to four corners of the map and doing their own thing, but isn't so restrictive that you're joined at the hip or within eyeshot.

You know there is an "unstick" option on the radio that rewinds you about 10 seconds?

Just finished God of War. Best in the series. By far.

The s3kr4t ending just makes me want more. Now. Probably gonna have to wait for like 3 years or more :(

Hard to objectively compare them since they're so different, but I did enjoy the new one more than previous entries by a pretty wide margin.

Only criticism I would lay on it is there aren't many boss battles for a GoW game. What's there is a blast, but it's still worth mentioning.

Unreal Gold.

Epic Games was giving the game away for free on Steam earlier in the week.

Bloodstained Curse of the Moon

Yeah that is one of my few complaints as well. Like half the boss types become semi-regular enemies too and all of them are fairly routine for the rest of those fights except for maybe the . Also wish the last boss was different. It was an epic fight, to be sure, but I would have probably used someone else (even though there weren't many options set up, tbf) at that point and saved that moment for the sequel.


I also get why making the comparison would be hard. The games are very different. But the formula/gameplay/world for this one as well as the way the story is told are just so far beyond what came before that it puts this one way beyond the previous games for me. And I loved those games. This one is just something else.

How is it? Been wanting to scratch my Castlevania itch and it seems like the best option but I'm always a little leery of clones at first.

If you like castlevania 3 and dont mind short games get it cause its great. On my 3rd plathrough now. Actually literally at the final boss.

And just finished my 4th run. Might speed run this a bit. Really fun especially once you unlock the final and you have full access to everything.

I take it there is some kind of new game+ where you carry over your stuff? The way you are speed running it already and what not makes me think so and I always enjoy new game+ for multiple playthroughs myself.

I just finished up the platinum trophy for God of War as well. Couple of the trophies are a little grindy at the end but not so much so that it overstays its welcome. Prob gonna get Bloodstained due to Destors pitch as I want something smaller before I jump into another big game. Can't decide if I'm gonna go ahead and start Xenosaga 2 or jump on Shadow of War first.

There are modes you unlock but i dont want to spoil. It essentially ng+ but theres a lot of new to it too

Also to your rep castlevania 2 was my first too and that game gets a bad rap thanks to that avgn vid. Its underrated

LOL I just went and watched that. Pretty funny.

Video is hilarious

I'm with him on one thing though...that part where you gotta equip the red orb and kneel next to the random wall at the end of the world in order to advance stumped my ass for the longest time when I was little.

Didn't he redo it during his castlevania retrospective?

Just played Civ 5 with a friend for 6 hours. He had no clue it was 6am, thought it was 4am until the sun came up

Miss playing Civ with friends.

I have unopened copies of Nioh, Nier Automata and Witcher 3. Still meaning to get Zelda and Mario Odyssey on Switch soon. Theres a couple of games from Plus I actually would like to play (not many tbh), a Persona 5 NG+ on the horizon and let's be realistic I'm going to get Dark Souls remastered because praise the sun and all that.

So to make the best use of my time I decided to start on the digital re-release of FF7 instead. But to switch up from my dozen CloudXTifa playthroughs I'm going to be jerk Cloud and go on the date with Barrett so it feels like I'm doing something new.

Uh, yeah.

I keep wanting to plau nioh but dont lol

Have Civ 5?

It dropped down to £20 so I picked it up, played the demo last year and liked it. It seemed like a Shinto / Samurai based Dark Souls, if Dark Souls was a lot less polished. Kinda more campy, kinda less fair. I'm interested, but not in any rush to play it either haha.

Doom is only 20 bucks at retail last I saw.


If you haven't tried it, go pick it up. Super fun game. Hope there is a sequel announcement at E3.

Doom sequel is probably a year or 2 off at least. They are going with Rage 2 in the near term.

But Rage is gay tho

I wouldn't mind seeing Bethesda Game Studios announcing a Fallout spin-off game. Watched a VinylicPumaGamimg vid not too long ago on the possibility of it or (not likely but) even Fallout 5 being a surprise reveal for E³.

After Bethesda's utter shit show at last year's E³ however I'm not holding my breath.

Most people are banking on ES 6 or Starfield being Bethesda's big reveal for the show.

They said the same thing last year though, so who knows?

I didn't notice that before. I thought that was like radioing in for a hint on what to do next. Had someone else tell me that is what this did.

Saw the vid, and as I didn't kickstart RotN, this was an unexpected surprise for me. Looks like CV:III but with the bonus of being able to swap all characters instead of sacrificing one for another, and that got my attention. Does it play like it? If so, I'm sold.

No, it gets a bad rap because it is severely flawed. AVGN played it up for comedy, but it was pretty shit.

I liked the concept of the game too, and they thankfully eventually honed this primative idea into the outstanding Symphony of the Night, but there was a lot you had to "figure out" not because the puzzles were clever, but because the dialog with ANYONE or the clues found ANYWHERE really didn't help jack shit and the whole idea was so far removed from the first game. I had to use three different hint books (pre internet) to try to play it front to back without cheat codes that give you everything at the beginning. There is a lot of click adventure logic (use item x in right spot) at work without the added benefit of being written well enough to let you know where the right spot is. And figuring out how the map worked... not intuitive at all.

Castlevania 2 was one of the first games that I liked in concept of to keep playing in spite of the bad execution. Like an early Skyrim. They were just a couple decades early for the patch culture we "enjoy" now. If at least the localization was up to scratch, then I would prob'ly hand you "underrated".

But I will say, the "suffering" was worth it if only for being a crucible old gamers like us were forged in. That, and the easter egg in Dust: An Elysian Tail.

Want ES6, k thx bye

It def plays like it and if you have a castlevania itch that needs scratching this should do it. Some of the staff from the original Castlevania games worked on this and it honestly feels like it.

As far ad Castlevania 2 goes think of the time frame. Really ambitious and innovative. Flawed? Of course. But when i first played it it blew me away. So many things that built the immersion of that game.

Its far from perfect but gaming was in its infancy.

Obviously 3 is better on pure gameplay but 2 felt like a world. Towns felt alive and large. Night was tense are the fear of sunset was ever present. The setting, at the time, was a cut above anything out at the time.

It has a lot of flaws, and it would take a bit to list them, but no one ever talks about what it got right. Underrated game is all.

If its as bad as FO4 I'll pass

Have faith in Talos.


And F04 is by no means a bad game, its a bad Fallout game that really went off the rails with story, or kinda railroaded us (pun intended) with the story, compared to NV.



The wasteland sadly, was mostly boring. I loved the settlement building but Preston made that as annoying as possible as well, and wish there was more to do with it.

I loved fallout 4......but only because I kept glitching the settlement limit bar so that I could add on indefinitely to make awesome apocalypse fortresses of doom.

Mods made it quite fun on PC, as it normally fixes any issues with things that bother you. I barely touched the story, settlements were always fun to build up more than the rest of the game.

I liked the boston wasteland more than FO 3 and New Vegas.

The latter games came out during a time when draping everything with a dogshit brown and gun metal grey tone to it. While you could certainly argue that it was fitting for the setting, I was sick of it at that point, and it slightly affected my enjoyment of those games.

FO 4 added more color while still keeping the post apocalyptic feel to it.

My issue with FO4 is it basically just became an FPS. FO3 and FO:NV played like RPGs with shooter mechanics.

But like each TES since morrowind each iteration has lost roleplaying elements until you're left with something that isnt an RPG at all.

This.

All of this.

I also liked the setting of FO4 more but I'm with Destor on the gameplay being a step backwards. I miss the RPG feeling of the older entries when I'm playing 4.

With TES it is def kind of the same issue. I never really played Morrowind so I can't gauge what it was like, but I feel like Oblivion hit the RPG sweet spot a hell of a lot better than Skyrim did.

In Oblivion I felt like my skills and stats mattered a hell of a lot more and combat was more....I dunno how to put it, pressing maybe? Felt like I had to think out my strategy more and prepare appropriately or I was going to get crushed. In Skyrim I felt like I was playing a first person action game; my stats mattered a little bit, more so with things like sneaking and lockpicking, but when it came to combat I could get by any encounter with appropriate movement and timing on parries and attacks.

TBH I feel like TESO feels superior as an RPG to Skyrim in nearly everyway. Not superior as a game overall, but definitely as an RPG.

If you liked Oblivion, you'd LOVE Morrowind. If you have an XBOX 360 and can find a used copy of Morrowind on the cheap, I highly recommend picking it up. The only minor issues would be you might have to download a patch on 360 if you don't have an original XBOX, to allow it to be played as a backward compatible game, and also there's a bug in the game that literally due to one line of code left out, your game could randomly crash with a bogus error saying your disc may be dirty or damaged and to press A to retry, but it's patched with a solution that creates a backup save from immediately before the game crashed.

Who are these people? They must be the same ones that expect the "surprise reveal" of the PS9 every year.

With morrowind the RPG aspects were much greater in the sense that your race attributes and class governerd not only how you played but how people treated you and what mission you could do and how you solved them.

Having a high acrobatics or being argonian (or having alteration magic) would def change how you approached (literally) a situation.

FO3 and FO:NV were similar. Having a high explosives could let you do a mission completely different. You felt like who you were was impacting the game.

With Skyrim and FO4 none of that means anything. A worrior who knows a single spell can be arch mage.

Thats not what role playing is...at all.

Only play the xbox port if you have no other options. I like the port but it is inferior...by like...a whole bunch

And also its dated. Fair warning.

Oh no doubt it's dated but if you love a great story and lore and can get past the inferior by today's standards graphics and slightly complex controls and at times leggy framerate , it's great fun. Still my favorite TES game since 2002.

Obligatory Wasteland 2 plug here. At this point, it's almost more Fallout than Fallout.

Had a great time with it.

:y:

Finished off and platinum'd God of War, such a great game, tied with Assassins Creed Origins for my GOTY (yeah I know Assassins came out last year but I played it this year).

Done my first playthrough of Until Dawn, fucking awesome game. Shit myself a couple of times but felt the later part wasn't as good as the start. Only one person survived by the end.

Bought State of Decay 2 so will be looking to start that while finishing off more playthroughs of Until Dawn.

My playthrough of until dawn was the opposite. One death. Literally on the last choice

It all went downhill after episode 8, a real blood bath.

Played Shellshock Live with some friends last night, it's a fun little game and easy to lose a few hours playing.

State of Decay 2

If you are going to start a legacy campaign...



I tagged it because better safe than sorry.

Was watching nL Greatest Balls of Fire tournament special...got to the finals to determine who would face Kalisto at WM...and the stream went down.

Fortunately they appear to have resolved the issue.

Son of a... so, I guess I have to wait a few more days to play that 8bit Bloodstained on my XBONE.

Have gone back to playing Fallout 4 after discovering the Sim Settlements mod and its accompanying expansions Industrial Revolution and Rise of the commonwealth.

Sim Settlements adds elements of sim city and is meant to make settlements more fun and engaging, as well as making them fit in with the rest of the game better. You lay down plots based on residential, commercial, industrial, etc. Then the settlers start building on those plots themselves based on preset models. From there, you can upgrade those structures over time and your communities needs being met. The settler needs system is far more dynamic and there's even a taxes system.

This all makes settlements feel like more of an organic part of the game as you see these communities grow bigger with your guidance rather than you doing everything for the helpless fucks.

Industrial Revolution adds a ton of new industrial options including branching upgrade trees for industrial plots.

Rise allows you to assign a leader to a settlement from your list of companions and they will build an entire city on their own provided their needs are met. Like the plots in the base mod, there are upgrade levels that make the city bigger and more elaborate. Once fully upgraded they are comparable to cities like Diamond City and Megaton. To achieve this the guy making the mod built a team consisting of the best settlement builders in the community.

I'm only really scratching the surface here. The mod is incredibly deep and has a ton of customization options so you can be totally hands on or let settlers do everything themselves.

Thanks. Just started this last night. Fun so far, better than the first.

Also still playng MGSV, probably one of my favorite games ever.

Never had a ps3/4 so never played 4. Now that Kojima is out feels right to not play the games.

I hated MGSV. MGS 4 is almost good enough to be console seller though

Phantom Pain is the most disappointing game of current gen. I don't think there's even a chance of another game coming along and being such a huge let down. I guess they could REALLY fuck up FF7 REMAKE but I don't have high expectations of that project in the first place.

MGS5 made me never want to see the franchise again

FF7...remake looks bad. I will play the original when i want ff7.

But I loved Phantom Pain, and still play it to this day 3 years later.

Hey man some guys like having their balls stomped by girls in heels. Some people just enjoy suffering

State of Decay 2

Somewhat overwhelmed by everything to manage, don't remember the first one being so micromanaged, not that it's a bad thing, just taking time getting used to. Already had two people die on me, both of whom join you right at the begining and would have been useful to keep around. Oh well.

It really is a lot to manage at the start. I had having to constantly have food. Also I'm not sure if my characters are going out into the world to scavenge on their own or if I have to send them to do that or if I can. Lots of unknowns for me about the game right now. I'm still going to give it more time, but if I give up on it like I did the first one, no big deal it was free with Gamepass.

Why was MGSV a letdown for so many of you guys? I hadn't played a MGS since MGSII so for me this was a vast improvement. It has elements of a lot of games that I love from Witcher 3 to GTA, and at times reminds me of my old Counter Strike games. I guess people find it repetitive? Which I understand but it's a repetition that I really love. I love having to extract a prisoner or highly skilled soldier. Choosing my battle plan to invade. Will I go Rambo or will I go full stealth. Currently stuck on Mission 31 until I make enough money to develop some more intense weaponry to take down Sahelanthropus.

Probably going to buy Far Cry 5 after I am done with MGSV and SOD 2.