And again, Meltzer’s office is a MESS. Alverez’ office may be cleaner and not accommodating to another person but still the trip just doesn’t seem worth it.

Fair, I wouldnt even drive 3 minutes to see Dave Melter :rofl:

Jesus. I thought I was unorganized.

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AEW did so good last night that Warner released a statement about it.

We just keep winning, AEDUB bros

Full Statement from Warner:

"Cody Good"

Love that he is just walking on tons of crumbled papers for the entire video... love that his dad is shooting this and tells him to turn around and look at the camera

lol

Love when Meltzer pauses for like 20 seconds while recording a show so he can check his notes, and when his stop watch alarm goes off and keeps beeping for like 30 seconds until Alvarez gets annoyed and asks him what that is

I’m interested how many more excuses Rick Can make every time he claims AEW won’t hit a million again only to be wrong almost every week

Here's the second part

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Meltzer and Alvarez don’t know shit about ratings. They can read the charts, but the conclusions they draw are just plain ignorant. It’s a work to sell newsletters and present these times as more exciting than they are to credulous subscribers.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEWDynamite?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AEWDynamite</a> averaged 1.032M viewers and a 0.44 18-49 rating on Wed, per <a href="https://twitter.com/wrestlenomics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WrestleNomics</a>. It was their best audience since their 2nd anniversary special on 10/6, and best 18-49 rating since 9/29. Year to year it was up 20.8% in total viewers, and the 18-49 rating was up 22.2%</p>&mdash; Raj Giri (@RajGiri_303) <a href="https://twitter.com/RajGiri_303/status/1484276482474229760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

3 minutes??? Guy’s a walking wrestling encyclopedia. I’d definitely drive 3 minutes to discuss wrestling with him. What true wrestling fan wouldn’t???

Only up 20.8% in total viewers from last year!?!

RIP AEW

AEW was running against NXT a year ago.

Wow, Noid and xrodmuc. These Meltzer Sheep keep calling falling over themselves posting phoney numbers.

NXT was running against AEW a year ago too.

NOT WORKING OUT AS WELL FOR THEM.

Give it up man, as soon as Cody takes another break they will be right back down to about 800,000.

All they have to do is have a former World Champ return after a 4 month break paired on the same episode with their best wrestler returning from a bout with Covid. They can keep that formula going, right?

Such a mark.

Dynamite is their A-tier show. NXT is the feds C-tier show.

Let's put Dark: Elevation against NXT. Then you'll see!

Exactly. This is the last time they will hit 1 million. They are not creating any stars and are running out of people to bring. I'm gonna laugh in Damien Rey's bitch ass face next week when they can't even hit 1 million.

No my dads tougher than our dad!!!

TBF all the wrestling journos and guys doing the podcast rounds look like they only shower to go to the nudie bookstore.

Your dads tougher than our dad? Why...that doesn't make any sense! Wouldn't he be both our dads then? Is one of them a clone or some type of skinwalker? Maybe a pod person?

My posting effort levels pretty low right now.

No clones, only pod people.

That makes sense. Dad is always asking people to take him to their leaders. I always thought he was just trying to be funny.

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Tbf they’ve got a big enough roster to achieve this.

Jericho needs his spell in rehab by all accounts. Bryan can have a couple weeks out for COVID. They’ve still got Kenny to return too, so they can do this at least two more times.

Hey, I didn’t bring up NXT here. I believe Gertner is the mark you’re looking for.

We all know you’re gonna run to the keyboard when they inevitably fall short of a million again. The question is what excuse will you come up with next time when inevitably hit a million viewers after claiming they won’t. This keeps happening. You say they won’t do it again, then make an excuse as to why THIS TIME IT’S THE LAST TIME. I’d imagine your legs and ball are developing real well after having to constantly pickup and move those goal posts.

Good number/news for AEW. Makes sense. Show is awesome.

He hasn’t claimed they will never hit it again this time. He’s evolving…

I mean, he does claim that.

Lol you guys are wild.

He literally just said this’ll be the last time lol. I don’t care about results. I just think it’s hilarious that we have 3 different nincompoops tying themselves in knots when AEW pulls a million every so often.

I bet you wouldn't say that to my face.

I do not care one bit if they do or do not get a million. I do care about 1 million being celebrated while 1.6 million is mocked. It's asinine hypocrisy at it's worst. 1 cannot be great if 1.6 is horrible.

Go ahead and read this thread, maybe that will clue you in to my issue:

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=138517

It's 1 million sensible people vs 1.6 million fucking retards! Let's hear it, fuck WWE and Vince, they suck! AEW is the number one wrestling, even Impact is better. Fuck Raw and Smackdown. I acknowledge TONY KHAN, I SPIT at the water cup of Nick Khan and the McMahon Family who have a history of criminal activity including rape and murder.

Oh ha! Missed that, I saw his other post where he was careful not to say that.

I bet your the least intimidating thing walking this earth.

Keep watching wrestling stupid faggit

bro you wanna marathon some old nitros or what

Lmaoooo Rick it’s getting very mad. Think it’s time to fire up the ham sandwich machine and throw on some Russo era tna

Idk why it’s so hard for people to see that a brand here company in its infancy pulling a million or close to it in an era where wrestling is dead is so hard to fathom as a good thing.

WWE pulling 1.6 isn’t celebrated because they’re LOSING viewership. Checkout the Raw after MITB this year as compared to 2011. 4.83m I’m 2011 compared to 1.9m in 2021. They’ve lost damn near 3 million viewers in a decade.

That’s why nobody celebrates WWE pulling a 1.6. Who celebrates dwindling viewership?

It is not about celebrating WWE. 1.6 is not a good rating, THEREFORE 1.0 is not a good rating.

Try reading this thread one more time.

https://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread.php?t=138517

You can’t just remove context though. Even if it helps your argument.

I don’t know what he said but I’m sure it’s something along the lines “derp how can one be good but the other be bad derp”, which would be missing the entire point, unsurprisingly.

:lol::naughty:

AEW sucks, gets shitty ratings. Makes sense.

What context am I ignoring? AEW is 3 years old, how long do they get a pass? They tell everybody constantly they are the best, so when are they going to get more people watching?

Let's also be honest, they are also not exactly a startup company struggling to stay open. When they have an unlimited budget and no pressure to make a profit or go out of business, are they really deserving of the whole "let's give them time". If that is what they want, then maybe they should not claim they are the best, they are winning, etc.

Actually, I said both were bad, and for some reason you can't seem to grasp that. 1.6 is bad, 1.0 is also bad. If 1.6 is bad, 1.0 cannot be good.

Lets ignore WWE for a moment. Dynamite does 987,000 one week then 1.01 the next, and we are supposed to care another 23,000 people watched? Come on.

This company has been around for over 3 years now. They have not been able to keep the audience willing to give them a go.

lol

According to forbes Jade vs Ruby was a bigger draw than Danielson vs Page was. Thats sad to me.

They take anything special and piss on it.

Think about it more simple than that......




Pretend you AREN'T watching, nor a regular watcher. If you are doing flippy shit through the channels, are you more likely to stop on two dudes slam dancing, or two ladies (one scantily clad) slam dancing?


My vote, is that more people will stop to see the ladies.

Bobo was right.

This has always been my point when people talk about women being “draws.” You’re going to have a pervert factor. It’s just sad that your top stars can gain more attention than that.

But that would be the casual viewer (flippin through the channels), which in your purview, no longer exists. DELETE YOUR POST!

:lol:

According to Brandon Thurston, the first minute of AEW had 1.71 million people watching it thanks to Big Bang Theory.

:rofl:

1.1 million for Dynamite this week


also...


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but but......

Interesting

Seems like they should/will try to put their most eye-catching stuff on immediately at the start of the show to try to keep some of those viewers

RIP WWE I guess. Shit.

A millions a great number!

LOL, now it is just Men 18-49 that matters.

Raw beat Dynamite in total viewers, the actual demo AEW has been saying is all that matters, AND signed a new streaming deal with Disney+!

Gotta love twitter folks spinning wins :rofl:

It's not about WWE Xrod. We are celebrating AEW, so take that! You cannot kill AEW. Tony Khan is the Vince McMahon of the Digital Era and scum like you had best acknowledge him. DO IT.

Oh no Rick was wrong again. I’m sure THIS time will for sure undoubtedly be THEEEE final time they hit 1 million maybe

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Quarter-hours for AEW Dynamite on TBS last night.<br><br>�� More demos &amp; analysis for subscribers here: <a href="https://t.co/cxEElBaioF">https://t.co/cxEElBaioF</a> <a href="https://t.co/77IrBD7Ywh">pic.twitter.com/77IrBD7Ywh</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thurston (@BrandonThurston) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1486889869548920833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Brit is the lowest point of the ratings. Turrible.

Tbf her segment was pretty meh. It went on way too long.

the match before didn't help much either

I find red velvet attractive and Hirsch is a good worker with the female version of Taz’s body, but those two are glorified enhancement talents. They should be used on dark to build up their records but be putting over the better names. They shouldn’t be paired in a match against each other. That’ll suck the life outta anybody.

So at least 500,000 Big Bang fans tuned out of a ladder match with the company's most recognizable star immediately. Sheldon Cooper going over easy.

Jericho was in a ladder match?

Nah was Daniel Bryan.

Hey guys did I miss CM Punk in a ladder match?

Mox in a ladder match = ratings

Cody Rhodes with his blonde hair and colorful tights and his 2 other shows is their most recognizable star.

I think Sting is probably their most recognizable star

True

what




Sting is a time clone of Danhausen.

Jericho tanked the ratings.

TPWW revealing a shocking lack of reading comprehension

I’m telling you, when AEW’s 49 yr old fans have birthdays over the next year, suddenly the important demo will switch again. But WWE will just be winning out of “loyalty.”

1.1 million is a hilarious number. It reminds me of the days when people used to mock TNA for a 1.1 rating. Now we’re supposed to be celebrating that in terms of viewership.

Also, unless advertisers are trying to sell fleshlights in prime time on basic cable, no one gives a shit about a show that appeals only to men.

Love this. :lol:

600k for Rampage… solid.

Rampage ratings on an upward trend, guess who is going to book himself on Rampage next week so he can take credit...

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Crazy that Rampage is one of the hottest shows in wrestling. Number 4 show in wrestling for sure.

600k an impressive number. For Rampage. Comparatively. Not sure they can sell many ad slots with 600k 40 yr old virginal white mem. Especially since they chased off Domino’s.

1.86 million, nice bump from the Rumble

Yet no one in the WWE are stars. Only AEW knows how to make stars.

Do people really think that? I mean I can't make it through a WWE episode but it's undeniable the talent that they have, the stars that are there and the potential stars and characters that are being creatively malnourished.

I do think that there is something to be said for the newer WWE fan. They may not know how bad it is right now, some people blindly love 3 hours of Raw. WWE has some great stars like Bobby Lashley, Roman, Drew, Brock, Ronda, Charlotte, Becky, Orton, Riddle, AJ and ton's more probably. But they also have those newer talents like Gable, Theory or Omos, NXT guys like Gunther, Tyler Bate, Pete Dune... WWE should be booking those younger talents and potential stars against those guys like Roman, Lashley and Orton etc... but their booking just so trash and repetitive and seems to never offer anything interesting.

WWE could easily have the best shows in wrestling if they had someone writing them that really cared about producing a good show for wrestling fans that also would please their outside interests and sponsors. But they can so easily rely on those fans that are too stupid to know the difference.

Yeah, it’s based off a rant Bryan Alvarez had on his show. The WWE doesn’t know how to create any stars, whereas AEW has created its four pillars and Britt Baker and they’re all definitely stars.

Now, he probably doesn’t really think that, but that’s the message being spread.

why would he not mean it?

You just asked if people really think that.

He’s working a particular audience. It’s insane to think that any of the people he mentioned are bigger stars than anyone pushed in WWE. It just doesn’t make mathematical sense.

I asked no such thinghausen.

You’re all the same person to me.

We may have similar avatars but would you be shocked to learn that we've all got the same voice too?