I would be pretty bummed if they ended the NEVER openweight title. I've enjoyed the matches I've seen from that division.

Just say where 48 year old Yugi Nagata wins the belt and put on a great match.

Seeing Orton and Harper argue and Bray trying to separate them, I could actually see Bray kicking Harper out. At that point, WWE would have two choices.

Either Orton then immediately turns on Bray. Shocker! He outsmarted Wyatt and got Bray to dissolve his own family!

Or the better option, Wyatt and Orton remain a dangerous team and end up in a feud with a face Harper and Rowan team.

Harper as a babyface going against Bray and Orton? That has...intrigue. I'd be for it any other time of year, but I think we'll be seeing a lot of stuff happening at Mania and I worry if many things are going to get lost.

Yeah, the one problem is it'd probably require Alpha dropping the belts back to Bray and Orton soonish. The feud doesn't NEED the tag belts but realistically the SmackDown tag division isn't getting two WrestleMania matches.

Not even sure you could have them wrestle a non-title tag match at Elimination Chamber either. First off I don't know if Rowan will be ready to go by then but also I think one or both of Orton and Wyatt will be needed to pad out the Chamber match itself.

Actually, that might not be true.

If the Chamber is for the WWE Title, you can have Cena, Styles, Ambrose, Miz, Corbin, and Ziggler.

If you take Cena and Styles out and have them wrestle another title match...the Chamber would be for #1 contendership. So Undertaker would be in there and the last spot could go to someone like Kalisto just so he can do something batshit crazy off the cage.

I'm not sure the WWE won't just blow through things until then. I could see Orton facing Harper at the Chamber to set up a WrestleMania match with Bray, who is in the Chamber trying to achieve his ultimate glory. If Cena wins the WWE Title at the Rumble, or doesn't, whatever, then a Chamber of Styles, Cena, Ziggler, Ambrose, Wyatt and Corbin makes enough sense. You could also put Kane in there. Or have a lucky dip guy like Apollo Crews or Kalisto. If Sami Zayn ends up traded, they might not just shove him with The Miz and let him go into the Chamber to create an illusion that Daniel Bryan believes he can "win the big one."

Let's just go with Corbin in the Chamber:

* Cena (c) vs. Styles vs. Ambrose vs. Ziggler vs. Corbin vs. Wyatt for the WWE Title

* The Undertaker makes an appearance

* Randy Orton vs. Luke Harper

* The Miz (c) vs. Sami Zayn for the IC Title

* American Alpha (c) vs. The Fashion Police for the Tag Titles (or really any team)

* Alexa Bliss (c) defends the Women's Title

* Becky Lynch vs. Alexa Bliss' new minion

I mean, it's not the most epic card ever, but it's "solid" in terms of filler PPV.

Where's the rest of Big Show?

Skinny little legs must struggle to hold up giant torso.... probably why they are all taped up..... extra support......

He should bust out a moonsault at Rasslemania

Is that Braun's father?

someone on reddit posted Braun Strowman's tinder profile because the internet is the internet:

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It feels like Orton vs Wyatt needs to happen at Mania. To me the SDL side is a little weak without that program in there. Let's say it's Taker vs Cena, then maybe Ambrose vs Miz, and something with Styles. Compared to RAW, they need another big match.

Alpha could either fight the Usos or maybe even The Revival if they come in prior to Mania.

I get this feeling that Ellsworth enters the Rumble when Lesnar and Goldberg are in the ring by themselves, and tries to dump both at once. It ends either with the two double eliminating him, ala Trips and Austin or with a humorous "who ragdolls Ellsworth better" contest.

According to PWI, first name expected to be announced for this year's WWE Hall of Fame class will be:

That's a much deserving choice.

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I wonder if when introducing Alberto Del Rio to new people, she will yell "THIS IS MY SPOUSE!!!" in their face......

The Young Bucks are out here superkicking EVERYONE at Wrestlekingdom!

And 0 fucks were given.

Do you just hate everything that's not WWE?

No. We hate WWE just as much.

I dunno, STD seems to get really upset when someone tries to praise anything TNA or ROH or any Indy fed does.

I only watch WWE, but I don't feel the need to bash other feds just because it's not WWE

Young Bucks are trash.

Wrestle Kingdoms main event is better than anything WWE put on last year and I would dare to bet anything next year. Omega even had an amazing intro video.

http://njpwworld.com/p/o_original_0068_10 (link is free)

Didn't get to watch live, probably won't be able to sit down and watch the whole thing until the weekend.

But based on what I've heard it's kinda sad to realize that wrestling in 2017 has probably already peaked on January 4th.

Eh, it happened last year too. I mean, AJ Styles was in NJPW for a week or so last year, yet had his best match of the year there.

WWE must now top it by having Reigns/Taker go 50 minutes before Reigns gets his feel good moment of retiring The Undertaker clean. Genius.

Nah, they'll just have an episode of Bring it to the Table where JBL will yell about how you're wrong about liking other brands of wrestling like he shilled for 3 hour Raws.

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The only appeal whatsoever I can find in Bring it to the Table is that it's a 30 minute exercise in corporate insecurity.

WWE version of "Guess Who": https://www.amazon.com/Winning-Moves.../dp/B0188R0MMC

"Was your person born and bred to rip and shred?"
"Yes"
"Are you Konnor?!"

As football season is basically over and Rumble is at the end of the month, I signed back up for the Network last night. I watched Bring It To The Table. It's basically Heyman and JBL daring the fans to boycott the product. The whole premise of the show is let's look at what fans on the internet are complaining about and tell them their opinion's are irrelevant because none of the fans are Vince McMahon.

While it's true that no matter what the fans think nothing will change unless Vince says so, it's not really a counter argument re: the actual flaws or quality of the product. It's basically saying "you're wrong and you can't do anything about it because you have no real alternative other than to stop consuming the product. Go ahead stop watching. We dare you."

Was the "this day in wrestling history" thread deleted? It was quite comical.

They've made Cynick's gimmick into a TV show!?

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Wrestle Kingdom 11 was really amazing overall.

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How did that get mass produced?

Made in China.

Made in China, written down, quality controlled and sold anyway by America.

I took it more as making fun of the dumb complaints the IWC brings up and exposing how idiotic their complaints are. Best part was JBL taking about TV rights revenue. I feel like I've tried to explain that to people on here and have it fall in deaf ears.

I guess it depends what you think of the people who are launching the complaints. I in no way value their opinion, so it's tough to not make fun of them. But I can see how people on here like yourself would see it the other way.

Maybe that's why I liked it so much.

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I. Will. Never. Retire. #17

Lol

Bruhhhhhhhh. How are you not watching Lucha Underground? It's dope as fuck.

God I really want Miz vs. Nakamura at WrestleMania. I can't shake the feeling that Nakamura will be staying on NXT through Takeover Orlando...probably against Roode again as the recent trend seems to be keeping the programs going through multiple Takeovers, especially the main events. But they called Zayn up last year and had no issues with him pulling double duty down the stretch and on Mania weekend. Given that NXT tapes in bulk, Nakamura could do that and spend the rest of his time with SmackDown.

Failing that, they can have Nakamura interrupt Miz during the SmackDown after Mania. The last few years, the SmackDown after Mania was when everything went back to the status quo. The vocal hardcore fans usually flew back home during the day on Tuesday and the SmackDown crowd was mostly just a regular crowd going to see a show in which nothing happened. Now SmackDown is important and being held in the same building as Raw, so I'd have to think the diehards will stick around. If he's not up before then, Nakamura deserves to debut in front of a crowd guaranteed to go apeshit for him.

He looks like Adam Sandler

Again though, JBL and even Heyman intentionally wouldn't address the actual issue which is multi-fold. Should WWE move Raw from 3 back to 2 hours? There's no one-size fits all answer, unless all you're concerned with is purely the financial implications.

Purely based on finances, of course not, at least not currently. If you're looking at it based strictly on the current finances, no one here has suggested going back to 2 hours. We all get that.

Creatively (and maybe even financially) in the longer term, it's definitely something Vince should consider or at least never say never to. Imagine if Raw were to go back to 2 hours, perhaps creative would improve, and as a result of improved creative, ratings would improve. If Raw went back to 2 hours and that resulted in Raw averaging 4.0 to 5.0 ratings every week, you think WWE's broadcast fees wouldn't improve drastically enough to justify getting rid of the 3rd hour of Raw?

Very fitting. He is the worst of the worst. Wrestling an 8-year-old and a blow-up doll. He belongs with the Superkick Spot Monkeys Twins.

He just had a match that will not be topped this year in WWE. He's in another league alright.

Carried that doll an a 8 year old girl to better matches than I've seen on Raw in some time.

Darkone. I need your Corey Graves head shake.

Absolutely love this (NJPW spoilers contained)

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I guess Jim Cornette is an idiot too?

Omega is great. Bit of an overseller in the ring but he's still great, and hours ridiculous character is perfect in a world of respect and honor.

Everything I've seen from him this year has been ace. Speaking of ace, watch his IC title match with Tanahashi. Just as good or better than anything wwe has put out.

Yes he is.

Ugh, fuck, Damien stole my spot.

Kenny Omega is pretty good overall.

Liked the comedy type stuff he used to do like the chainsaw elbows but from what I've read, he's transitioned pretty smoothly into a more serious type wrestler during the past year. His One Winged Angel finisher is amazing.

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He still does some comedy. His gimmick is basically crazy ridiculous American jack ass. But it's done in an obnoxious way. He pulls it off very well.

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And my favorite.....

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nice buttttttt

You take the butt, Dale. I'll take them titties.

And I cannot wait to watch all the wrestle kingdom stuff.

When it comes to modern wrestling, absolutely.

Cannot take Kenny Omega seriously. The Terminator stuff makes it seem like he's shed the comedy stuff, then he comes out pulling that face. Fuck's sake. Have no desire to see him wrestle now, no matter how good Okada is. Feels like New Japan has taken a major step down.

Don't get me started on The Young Bucks. They look too fucking girly for a boy band.

The audience for modern wrestling shrinks every day. Modern wrestling is an idiot when it comes to modern wrestling.

There's a 45 minute instant classic of wrestling, easily going to be in the conversation for match of the year if not the outright winner and people saying that WK11 is probably a good step up from WK10 although maybe not quite touching the height of WK9, the last 5 matches on the card are the best you will see anywhere in the world.

But no, Omega pulled a face. Major step down.

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I can't take AJ Styles seriously now, lads

Is that really what you're basing you're opinion on?

This is just another example of you hating anything that isn't WWE

To be fair to STD, he didn't state that was his reason; that's just another guy who doesn't like Kenny Omega. And to be honest there are legitimate reasons not to like him. The way he's ironically played a professional wrestler for years makes him annoying. It's that class clown sense of humor that just grates on you if you're not into that sort of thing. I don't find stuff like The Young Bucks hitting 8,000 superkicks a match interesting (I honestly find them boring as fuck) and Omega just turned me off seconds into his most recent appearance by mugging like an idiot. That doesn't mean you hate all things that aren't WWE.

Now, STD might very well hate all things that aren't WWE, I can't really speak for him, but citing a wrestling authority to back up an opinion isn't necessarily an appeal to authority.

Kyle O'Reilly turned down his ROH contract. I don't think I posted it here, but I made the prediction that he'd jump to WWE. They seem to be in hiring mode and they seem to want to sprout up even more content. O'Reilly will fit somewhere. I think he's a less charismatic Daniel Bryan, but we'll see if the WWE production machine turns him into something interesting. I predict Adam Cole will hold the ROH World Title until April, when his dates with ROH dry up, and then he drops the belt to Jay Lethal.

WWE also signed Heidi Lovelace, Kimber Lee, Andrea (trained by The Dudleys) and Julia Ho (a model with MMA experience). Wouldn't be surprised if they are eventually presented as counterparts to the Four Horsewomen for some sort of 4 vs. 4 feud.

That's fine, my comment was more about how STD has a really harsh opinion on pretty much anything that isn't WWE.

SUZUKIGUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pretty sure there's people on this board that would perform fellatio on Jim Cornette if he asked them to.

Except new japans popularity has increased ten fold over the past few years.

Fuck Jim "Out of touch" Cornette

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Nikki wants to have a kid with Cena, but he probably always pulls out at two.

Just on January 4th, NJPWWorld gained 10,000 new subscribers with 55% of them being from North America.

I'd take them both. I'm hardcore.

STILL SPACE MOUNTAIN!!

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Nikki has that "I'm into anal" vibe to her. Or at least, like, she'd pretend to be into anal if it was a guy she was really desperate/interested in being with.

hm, which of the bella twins has fake tits?