I've pretty much said it the last couple pages.

I'm pullin for the Colts. Pats have had way too much success in the last few years. It's time for the Colts to have some too.

Tom Brady is good in domes, apparently

SAINTS WIN!!!1!

I can't f'n wait until Sunday BTW..

You have? Ok, let’s look.

Well, there’s a prediction, I wouldn’t put money on that one… (The colts might win, I don’t see a blow out and of course you always predict this, so maybe you’re just hoping to be right once? Or you really believe it this time?)

Ok, Manning has a career day.

Ok, so the Pats have no one man to man that can cover Wayne or Clark, and somehow this will stretch the patriots out or “put them on their heels” to allow the run, even though the pats have the #2 run defense in the league.

Ok, same point as before, but this time you’re saying the Patriots one of the best defense in the league, doesn’t have the secondary to blitz? So that if they blitz, they don’t have players or coverage schemes that can hang with the colts WR/TE for 3 seconds? Even though every time the Pats beat the Colts it’s doing exactly that, Blitzing and bumping at the line which throw off all the timing patterns.

Wait, so the Colts defense isn’t going to play as good as it has? This is a reason to pick the Colts?


So, to summarize, your whole reason for winning basically boils down to this – You don’t think the Pats can win because they don’t have anyone who can go man-to-man with Harrison, Wayne and Clark.

Yeesh, if that’s all you got, expect a real long day on Sunday. Heck, I’m not a Colts fan nor do I follow the team much, but I could make a better argument then that for the colts winning.

What's funny is the Superbowl is in Miami and every year not matter how good the Pats are or how bad Miami is or isn't, the Pats always have a tough time playing in Miami and some of Brady's career worst games are there. If they make the superbowl and loose I can already hear "It's the Miami jinx".

LOL @ you taking all my things out of context and then arguing against the context that you put my sentences in. LOL . It really is VEL.

P.S. Stop barking about your defense. Did you watch the Baltimore game? We ran it down there throats, so why in the hell would you think that we couldnt do the same to you?

My favorite Patriot fan argument has to be when someone like myself mentions that we've beaten you the last two times and you say " OHhh Umm Ohhh It wasnt the playoffs though!!!!! " LOL

Playoffs is where it counts most. Patriots are different in the playoffs. You have to trust me when I say the Pats will Sunday.

You have to trust me when i say you're an asshole.

I'm not arguing with that but I stand by my prediction.

Wait, earlier this season, your argument that the Colts were better than the Saints was that they make it to the playoffs every year.. I said it doesn't matter if you make it to the playoffs or not, if you don't win in the playoffs..

As a Colts fan, are you happy that y'all won't win a Super Bowl with Manning at QB?? Happy just beating the Pats in the regular season??

Cause that's what you are saying..

No thats not what i'm saying you big stupid moron. I'm saying that its stupid to think that we cant beat the Patriots all of a sudden because its a playoff game. When clearly we've beat them the last two times we faced them. Its not like all of a sudden its a totally different team.

Do you even know what you wrote? It doesnt even make since.


" Wait, earlier this season, your argument that the Colts were better than the Saints was that they make it to the playoffs every year.. I said it doesn't matter if you make it to the playoffs or not, if you don't win in the playoffs.. "

I agree. It doesnt matter. And yes the Colts are better then the Saints. So whats your point? Then you go from that to this...


"As a Colts fan, are you happy that y'all won't win a Super Bowl with Manning at QB?? Happy just beating the Pats in the regular season??

Cause that's what you are saying.. "

Is that really what i said? How did you come up with that? Cause the Colts are better then the Saints ??

Making sense of your posts is like making sense of nothing. Its that hard. I have no clue what the fuck you are talking about. You just managed to tell me that because i said the Colts were better then the Saints, i'm happy cause we wont win a Super Bowl with Manning at QB and i'm happy with just beating the Pats in the regular season.


ummmmmmmmmmmmm You win man. I give up.

You've been saying "Colts are great because we make it to the playoffs every year" for awhile now.. You also agree that "making it to the playoffs" really doesn't mean shit unless you make it to the Super Bowl.. But then you go on to say that it doesn't matter that the Pats have beaten y'all in said playoffs for years, because y'all beat them in the regular season, which doesn't matter because it's not the playoffs..

So, are you, as a Colts fan happy in just beating the Pats in the reguilar season and not doing shit in the playoffs??

Cause that's what your posts are saying..

No, this really is you being you, someone asks you to explain why you think the Colts will win and you don't.

I didn't take anything out of context, the only things you said were Manning will have a carreer day and the Pats can't cover the Colts WR/TE's.

That's the only reasons you gave to say they would win, look though the last few pages, thats it. Maybe you thought you explained why and you didn't?

Actually, it was your QB who said "The Patriots are a much different team in the playoffs"

You did what?

Let's see.

Addai - 18 for 39, 2.16yds per carry, with a longest of 7. Take away the longest run he's 17 for 32, 1.88yds per carry

Rhodes - 14 for 56, 4yds per carry, with a longest of 25. Take away the longest run he's 13 for 31, 2.38yds per carry

Combined your two RB's didn't break 100yds, and if you take away that 1 big run by Rhodes (25yds) they combined for 70 yds on 31 carries which is 2.25yds per carry.

That's hardly running it down anyones throat.

13 plays 12 runs 7 minutes, ball game. Just because we didnt do it all game, doesnt mean we cant do it when it counts. Its not like Indy's running game has been pathetic all season. They're very solid unit of runner. Lets not get started on Mr. I'm a Running Back and I Need Oxygen After 50 Yards, or Mr. Inconsistency himself Lawrence Mahoney.

Stop acting like we cant run the ball. They've done it all season. They did it when it mattered the most last week. They did it to Kansas City. They'll do it to New England.


You wanna know how the Colts will beat New England? They're gunna put 8 men in the box and stop your running game just like they did during the regular season. Then Nick Harper ( probably the most underated CB in the league ) and Jason David are gunna jam your WR's and not let them break off the line. Brady will complete a few passes, but for maybe 3, 4 yards. Colts will keep everything in front of them. And the Pats will be punting alot. Then Hoody Boy Billy will decide to go deep. His running games failing, the short game isnt doing enough to put points up with the Colts. So now Brady starts to drop back 5 yards, sometimes 7 yards. And thats when the breakaway will happen. It'll probably be a tie game or Colts by 7. Brady will drop back and BOOOM! Freeney or Mathis crushes him. You know why? Cause your offensive line aint got nothing for Freeney or Mathis. NOTHING. Dont give me this " Well we shut down Merriman " crap either. Merriman isnt on both sides of the line. Brady will have both Dwight and Robert in his face all day long. And mistakes will happen. And the great Joe Mont...Tom Brady will be holding his head between his hands come the 4th quarter when Indy is up by 24 points cause Brady turn the ball over.

Why dont you tell us how the Patriots will beat the Colts.

Never said the Colts can't run the ball, you’re the one who claimed they "ran it down the ravens throats" and the truth is, they didn't. The truth is your offense had a horrible game and your defense won you the game.

As for Maroney? What did you see some highlight where had an oxygen mask somewhere? When? Both teams have good running games but different styles. Both the Pats backs are Physical, Rhodes isn't, Addai I haven't watched enough to know if he's a run through or around type RB.

Finally, a semi-logical explanation of how the Colts can win. It's too logical for you, I'm guessing you copied it from somewhere, and then threw in your comments about Belicheck (oh no, you insulted him for wearing a hooded sweatshirt) and then Joe Mont... Yes, a lot of people compare Brady to Montana, and they compare Manning to Marino... 2 of the 4 have rings and 2 of the 4 don't.

I'm not going to argue against your reasons for a Colt win, it's actually close to how I think the Colts could win, I don't think it's putting 8 in the box however, I think it's jamming the Pats undersized WR at the line, and using your LB to jam up the Pats TE's forcing the Pats to run all day, and the Colts defense has been playing good against the run in the playoffs.

Now, for the flip side, why I think the Pats will win. (This, unlike you I actually already did say).

They're going to Blitz Manning and jam the WR/TE and throw off the timing patterns, same things they have done every other time they've beat the Colts.
As for your Pass Rush, for once the entire OL is healthy, Light had the game of his career last week and the Patriots have the best blocking TE's in the league and both Dillon and Maroney are good at picking up the Blitz.


**A side note, I was reading about the crew officiating, and long story short they're old school "let them play" refs, which doesn't help the colts when the pats play physical defense.


OH and a score.
Pats – 23
Colts – 17

I’m saying both defenses step up and it’s low scoring.

Yah and when you blitz. Screen passes to our running backs all day. After the first couple times, you'll see that so called blitz being called fewer and far between. Manning is one of the best at picking up the Blitz and reading the coverage, granted, he's playing a 3-4 defense that always seems to give him fits, but he handled it against Baltimore and made plays when he had to. Your blitz is crap with your slow linebackers. Theirs not one guy on your linebacking core who the Colts should be really worried about if he should show blitz. Not one. Colvin is ok, but he's not some huge playmaker and Vrable, Izzo and Bruschi are slow. Have fun with that blitz. Patriots will get picked apart blitzing. Would make no sense to blitz all game long. If they do, they'll probably get burned. So what if you jam Marvin and Reggie. They're too of the best recievers in the league. You think they dont know how to beat the bump coverage? Comon. Plus, who you jamming Clark with? And then who's taking Addai out of the backfield and all this while you're " blitzing ". Ok.

I called them soft because they react poorly to aggressive corners and whenever they go over the middle they hit the ground as soon as possible (Reggie Wayne is from THE U though so that is expected)

They are still all pro widereciever, shit Deion Sanders is a hall of fame cornerback but he was soft as shit too, just because you play soft doesn't mean you aren't good

Running 12 out of 13 times in a drive is a good example of your wideouts not being soft though

My dad recorded the Saints/Eagles game and put it on DVD commercial free with the pre and post game shit for me and my bro.. Even made a cover for it..

Without the premission of the NFL!!1!

AWESOME

wow RP

Colts have no chance

I've heard this all before from you, if it's all true then the Colts should win.

However these are the same things you've said before, and so far it's never happened.

Replace Addai with Edge, how is this team any different then the ones before?

Maybe this is the time the Colts finally do it, but all your saying is what you've said every other time and it's never worked.

The pats LB are slow? Izzo? you mean Banta-Cain? right? You do know what you're talking about right?

If the Pats keep Blitzing Addai wont be rolling out for a screen, he'll be in between the blitz and Manning trying to give Manning an extra second to throw.

The pats have one of the best defensive fronts in the league, they stopped the run all year, not like the Colts who got run on all year and just started stopping the run the last 2 weeks. Seymore, Wilfork, Warren have been shutting down the run all season.

Wayne and Harrison can handle being jamed at the line? I'm sure then know how, they just never have in the playoffs.

We'll see what happens, as I've said... I give the Colts the best chance this time, that's my opinion based on the way their defense has played the last 2 weeks, but I heard from you 2yrs ago that it was the Colts time... our defense... etc... etc...

talk to you Sunday night.

WHERE'S JOEY SLUGS AT?!?!?

Peyton Manning, after living a full life, died. When he got to heaven, God was showing him around.

They came to a modest little house with a faded Colts flag in the window. "This house is yours for eternity, Peyton," said God. "This is very special; not everyone gets a house up here."

Peyton felt special, indeed, and walked up to his house.
On his way up the porch, he noticed another house just around the corner. It was a 3-story mansion with a Silver and blue sidewalk, a 50-foot tall flagpole with an enormous Patriots logo flag, and in every window, a New England Patriots towel.

Peyton looked at God and said "God, I'm not trying to be ungrateful,but I have a question. I was an all-pro QB, I hold many NFL records, and I even went to the Hall of Fame."

God said "So what's your point Peyton?"

We ll, why does Tom Brady get a better house than me?"

God chuckled, and said:

"Peyton, that's not Tom's house, it's MINE"

Some old lady just flagged me down at a red light and tried to buy the Saints flag on my car..

Jeff Samarja(sp?) from Notre Dame signed with the Cubs..

No NFL for him..

He's signed with the Cubs in '06, played in the minors during that Summer then still played for ND in the fall. So unless something new has come out and I haven't seen it, I dunno why he would give up on the NFL already

-edit..just checked it out, weak...he shoulda atleast tried playing both. Deion did it

Yea, he coulda,shoulda done both. Maybe cuz money isn't guaranteed in the NFL was the reason or what?

Well he probably felt he couldn't make it in baseball while playing football, he is starting out in A ball and is going to have to work his way up for a few years. Its not like he is in Sanders position where he could play both pretty well right off the bat (no pun intended)

I'm not sure he had the speed to make it as a NFL reciever. His body type and his athleticsism was perfect fit for the prototype pitcher. They say he's a Randy Johnson type pitcher in the making. I think he made the right move. I dont see him having as good of a career as say Drew Bennett, who's been rather average.

I dunno I still would have given it a shot, he was a projected first rounder.

Yah, but WR is the most stacked position in the draft this year. He probably would have been a 2nd maybe even 3rd depending on his draft workouts. I think he made a good move.

Calvin Johnson, Dwayne Jarrett, Ted Ginn Jr

Who else are you taking over Jeff Samardzija? I dunno I think being a top 4 wideout usually lands you in the first round

He would've been a decent NFL player..

Didn't know there was a "body type" for a pitcher... as for Randy Johnson, anyone over a certain height gets compared to him.

He probably would have been fine as an NFL WR, he has the ability.

That being said, he made a good choice, "Samardzija said longevity and the chance of injury were not major factors in his decision to go with baseball over football."
Might not have been, but makes sense to me.

Also, he got a good deal for baseball.

5yrs, 10 million with a 2.5mil signing bonus (I'm not 100% if the 2.5 is part of the 10mil) and there are cubs options for year 6 and 7 which turns it into a 16.5mil deal.

Plus he got a no trade clause put in, which is very rare in mlb these days, especially someone that young.

There was also mention about him offering to give back the signing bonus over the 5yrs, I'm not sure if that was if he changes his mind, or if the major league team calls him up and has the cap room, the espn article doesn't specify.

I think Samardzija agreed to that to signing bonus refund thing to show that he was 100% committed to baseball

let me settle this argument. Saints win, Colts win

Saints win.

WRONG!

SAINTS WIN!!1!

Vick In Airport Water Bottle Incident

Container held for further review after possible pot residue found

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphic...071inside1.jpg JANUARY 18--Miami police are investigating NFL star Michael Vick after airport screeners yesterday seized a water bottle from him at a security checkpoint and later discovered that the bottle included a "concealed compartment" that appeared to contain a small amount of marijuana. According to a Miami-Dade Police Department report, a copy of which you'll find below, the Atlanta Falcons quarterback was "reluctant to turn over his water bottle during the screening process" at Miami International Airport (the athlete was booked on an AirTran flight to Atlanta). Vick subsequently relinquished the 20-ounce Aquafina bottle, which was placed in a recycling bin by a Transportation Security Administration screener. Suspicious as to why Vick hesitated in handing over the bottle, TSA screener Gertrude Joseph retrieved the bottle, notified her supervisor, and brought the item to the TSA operations center. There, officials discovered that the bottle's label "contained a seam which separated the top and the bottom of the bottle. Both ends were sealed by clear partitions and what appeared to be a silicone sealant." The concealed compartment, the report notes, contained "a small amount of dark particulate and a pungent aroma closely associated with Marijuana." It appears that Vick had departed to Atlanta before the screeners had finished analyzing his water bottle, which was transported to the Miami-Dade Police Department lab for analysis. Following the 2002 arrests of members of a Miami-based Ketamine ring, Drug Enforcement Administration agents pointed out a "new smuggling trick" being used by traffickers: Aquafina water bottles outfitted with "a hidden compartment for drugs." Click here to view a DEA evidence photo showing three of the seized Aquafina bottles. The retrofitted $15 bottle can now be found for sale online, where it is advertised as a "diversion safe." (3 pages)



http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...71mexico1.html

Heard about it. Pretty ROFL.

Pretty obvious he smokes weed, who really cares?

way to read the thread Hero... that news was sooooooooo 2pages ago... keep up with the times old man! :p

Stima, who "really cares?"
where do we start... Team Owner, Coach, Sponsers (Nfl, Falcons and Vicks), probably some team mates, fans, parents of children who are falcons fans and vick fans...

I may have missed a few... but yeah, it's illegal, it has a negative effect on the brain and for a player who's knock is he can't handle an offense, a guy who's still touted as one of the best athletes in the league, but can't read a defense..

yeah, it means a lot.

Atlanta has a new coach, and a backup QB that could start on a lot of teams... wouldn't be shocked to see Vick in a deal to Oakland, probably over paying with multiple round 1 picks (just guessing because of how Al Davis operates).

lol..yea that would be hilarious if Oakland traded the #1 pick for Vick. Then Atlanta would swiftly pick up Calvin Johnson.

This whole weed thing will blow over in about 3 weeks and everyone will forget about it. It is weed, not crack or herion or something.

That's his throwing hand..

:cool:

If i were paying this guy 100 million dollars. I'd probably care.

I get the feeling the Bears are just sitting back and waiting. Not saying one word. Flying under the radar and come tommorow, they're gunna pounce on New Orleans so hard. Thats just the feeling i get. No one is talking about the Bears.

With my luck The Bears will get blown out and I'll die a little more inside

If they don't press any charges the new cycle will probably be less then that. What pushed this one was the imediate statement by (I forget if it was the owner or the team president) but it condemed him a guilty before anything had been decided. Rather then the usual "we'll wait and see the findings" it was a "he let this organization down" etc...

That being said, even once the "new cycle" is over, it will effect endorsment deals, also I would assume if they report it was weed, I'd expect a 1st time offense 4-game suspension from the nfl.

RON MEXICO LOOKIN GOOD

This type of thing always gets more negative attention than it deserves though. I assume Vick will have a 4-game suspension like VEL said.

That would be lucky for both of us..

Saints 34
Bears 21

Jim Mora Jr is gonna sign as a Seahawks Assistant Head Coach..

Lol, if Vick is out four games that is going to fuck up Petrino's start there, since he is apparently designing their offense specifically around him... Oops.

But yeah, I think something like this will stick around with Vick for a long time. Not a huge deal, but it is a stigma that will follow him, the stoner who can't read a defense.

Pats v. Colts
From the limited amount of time I've seen the Colts play recently, I've noticed their defense has been playing well. In some strange way the offense (more so Peyton, has been sputtering, and when I say that I mean not typical Peyton Manning) while the defense has been nuts. On the other hand, the Patriots are just something to behold. They just show up in the playoffs, period. They're well coached and it shows. They just go out and win ball games. I really can't predict this one, I think its going to be a hell of a game.

Saints v. Bears
Saints are flying high right now (no lie, they're ballllllinnnn) I was glad to see them beat the Eagles in a close game. Shows they can fight it out in a close one. The Bears also stuck it out against the Hawks. I think this game is going to be a good one. Its all going to be who lands that huge knockout blow (or inversely, makes the inoppurtune mistake) I think the Saints will be able to put up points on the weakened Bears D, but I also think that if Grossman plays halfway decent the Bears will be able to match that. I think this one is going to be real good.

Superbowl
No matter who goes out of the 4 teams, I think the game is going to better than a lot of people expect. The general consensus, it seems, is that the AFC is going to kill the NFC. I don't think thats the case. I think if the Patriots go, they will win, purely because they've been there multiple times and experience gives them an edge. I think the Saints have a better shot than the Bears if they made it to the Superbowl. I think right now the Bears are the weakest link, Patriots the strongest, with the Saints and Colts close in the middle. My ideal matchup would be the Saints v. Pats or the Colts, so long as the Bears don't go.

this guy's star is falling. he better care

Lol, there is a facebook group called "Hey New Orleans, you thought Katrina kicked your ass? Just wait for the Bears"

Yeah everyone is sleepin on the Bears in this match up, I dunno Saints are good but its not like they destoried everyone they faced this year. Gonna be real close I think

Has Reggie Bush ever even played a game where it was cold out?

Is Reggie Bush even alive right now? I'm pretty sure i saw Lito Sheppard rip his heart out during that hit.

Back to the Samardzjida topic from last page, Sidney Rice is another top WR, I'd probably take him over Samardzjida. Collegefootballnews has it's first mock draft up, and they have like five WR's in the first round, so it probably wasn't as bright for him as this thread alluded to.

It has Dwayne Jarrett being taken like 10th and Ginn going like 20th though, which I don't see happening. It also has the Vikings taking Adrian Peterson.

You cant even measure Rex Grossmans horribleness on regulation scales. I mean, i think 99% of NFL offensive lineman complete that TD pass in the back of the endzone. Ethan Allbright completes that pass.

Also, what a horrible fumble call on the kickoff return.

Fuck the Bears. Personally speaking, I hate them.

But admittedly, they are awesome. Just wanna see some Saints Super Bowl action. :cool:

The only difference between Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton is that Orton is probably hung over right now. Even then, i think i'd take Kyle Orton.

If the Bears had Jon Kitna and that stupid ass lineman falls on that fumble, the Bears are probably up 21-0 right now. JON KITNA

Tully Banta-Cain has 2 post season sacks. :y:

Wow, Rex Grossman sucks. It's a good thing NO isn't doing shit right now.

I demand Brian Griese be put in the game

actually nevermind

Lovie Smith probably was the COTY this year. I dont know how the hell the Bears got to this point with Rex Grossman as there QB.

ouch td, although I am not too supportive of the saints anyway, I only picked em cause I really liked the turn around, but I wouldve preferred, chargers, ravens or even seahawks. As long as Pats don't win the superbowl, it'll be cool.

Saints finally got a TD before the half 16-7.

lol you are a huge doofus.

Sounds like a Star Wars character.

REGGIE BUSH

Fuck Reggie Bush and his unbelievable abilities

7-0 Baby

They need to get more pressure on Manning though.

Looks like the Colts "run defense" didn't show up today.

lol Colts

Vinatieri never misses a field goal. Pats' defense does look good with covering the receivers.

Maybe if Manning wasn't so worried about making a big play, they could be doing just a little bit better.

LOL yeah, always trying to go deep but Samuel and Hobbs had great coverage there.

WOOOO Troy Brown

Bye Bye Colts

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH

Soooooo...how about that Colts Defense?

Wrong jersey, Choke Manning.

ASANTE SAMUEL!!! He's the next Ty Law for the Patriots.

Choke is probably on the sideline right now crying.

Manning's already on his back in defeat.

Bring on Jim Sorgi.

Wow this is awful

Marvin can't even catch the ball.

This is sad, but for all of the right reasons.

Indy finally got a first down. 18 yards, fuck.

God I love Asante Samuel. Been saying that all season.

weird the colts losing to the pats

who would of thought?

Anyone with a brain.