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Emperor Smeat 05-21-2019 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5254221)
Curious about how they will deal with the lower card guys if they have true win/loss records. Like if someone has a 5-25 record or something, going to "look bad"... I guess they could always just have them have a winning streak if they want to give them a push.

Streaks would be the easiest way. Doesn't even need to be a pure win streak, just have to make the wrestler be on a hot streak of sorts to justify their rise in status.

If done correctly, you would have built up a new star and have the end result be meaningful. You also avoid a Curt Hawkins type situation where a jobber suddenly has gold out of nowhere or make their push feel like a big joke in the end.

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5254118)
Eh, I wouldn’t say AEW is at TNA level yet in terms of signing WWE castoffs. WWE haven’t released all that many people in the past few years.

If they sign TJP or some shit then yeah, that’s a problem.

Oh, definitely not. I'm just saying that the whole "we're only interesting in, like, maybe 8% of the WWE roster" is bullshit. If you could take half the WWE roster, Tye Dillinger probably wouldn't have made the cut.

He's a fine addition. It's a reasonable signing. I think stars would be a lot more valuable, but showing misused talent in a different light without giving them too much emphasis until it feels right is a good way to go about things.

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5254225)
Streaks would be the easiest way. Doesn't even need to be a pure win streak, just have to make the wrestler be on a hot streak of sorts to justify their rise in status.

If done correctly, you would have built up a new star and have the end result be meaningful. You also avoid a Curt Hawkins type situation where a jobber suddenly has gold out of nowhere or make their push feel like a big joke in the end.

They can choose to emphasize whatever statistics they want. That's the great thing about wrestling -- you get to book that shit and produce it in a way that benefits you. If a guy's win/loss percentage is impressive, use that. If they've never lost at all, use that. If it's that they haven't taken a fall in a tag team match, then use that. Just use whatever is going to make the point for selling the person.

Emperor Smeat 05-22-2019 05:10 PM

AEW announced they will be crowning their first ever champ at a later date and the title match will be winner of Jericho/Omega vs. winner of Casino Battle Royale.

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 06:18 PM

Alright, they must have someone pretty big planned for that Battle Royal then. Jon Moxley is probably going to be the name on the tip of everyone's tongue, but I'm hoping for someone from New Japan as a shocking reveal, given the apparent downturn of their relationship. TNT is a heck of a lot of potential exposure for New Japan talent.

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 06:19 PM

I hope it isn't going to be Jericho vs. Hangman Page. Not a knock on either guy -- I want to see that program. I just don't really feel it for an AEW Championship story.

slik 05-22-2019 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5254380)
AEW announced they will be crowning their first ever champ at a later date and the title match will be winner of Jericho/Omega vs. winner of Casino Battle Royale.


I like that idea a lot!

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 07:53 PM

I still want the first match on Dynamite to be Brian Pillman, Jr. vs. Jushin "Thunder" Liger as a call-back to the first Nitro.

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 07:58 PM

Cody Hall left NOAH earlier this year. He's a big kid, really young. Is he any good? I heard he has heat with some people in the industry, but it says he was a former member of The Bullet Club. Would he be a decent signing for AEW?

Fignuts 05-22-2019 08:05 PM

He's not great from what I've seen. Also has an attitude problem.

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 08:13 PM

That's a shame. Got a great look.

Supreme Olajuwon 05-22-2019 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5254391)
Alright, they must have someone pretty big planned for that Battle Royal then. Jon Moxley is probably going to be the name on the tip of everyone's tongue, but I'm hoping for someone from New Japan as a shocking reveal, given the apparent downturn of their relationship. TNT is a heck of a lot of potential exposure for New Japan talent.

Seems crazy that they would do a mega reveal on the free show before the PPV

But I guess it makes sense if they’re trying to attract customers

Ultra Mantis 05-22-2019 08:30 PM

Cody Hall was Bullet Club's young boy, basically a jobber, except unlike all the other young boys he was tall and a shit wrestler. He's a much, much worse version of Hikuleo.

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5254410)
Seems crazy that they would do a mega reveal on the free show before the PPV

But I guess it makes sense if they’re trying to attract customers

Yeah, I'm iffy on it. Feels very slapped together. They could have milked intrigue out of who is going to be the first champion for quite a while.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-22-2019 08:38 PM

They could've. But on the other hand, they can now build a feud around likely Omega and whoever wins the battle royal.

I wouldn't be against Jericho beating Omega, only to lose to the first champ.

Supreme Olajuwon 05-22-2019 08:39 PM

If Kenny Omega is going to be your first champ, which he probably should be, then he’s either got to beat a really good heel or an established name.

Probably just gonna have MJF win the battle royal

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 08:44 PM

I've got a feeling that Hangman Page is going to be in that Battle Royal and the #21 guy is Joey Ryan doing a bit of a troll entrance, because they think it's funny. Page wins the Battle Royal. I do think that Omega is going to beat Jericho, but I can see Page beating Jericho at Fight for the Fallen and then facing Omega for the belt in Chicago. I hope they prove me wrong.

Supreme Olajuwon 05-22-2019 08:45 PM

Not gonna lie, probably gonna have a good chuckle about how much bigger Billy Gunn is than the rest of the participants in the battle royal.

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 08:45 PM

Is there any big name other than Moxley from outside AEW it could be?

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 08:46 PM

Kind of seems weird to me that Glacier is just two wins away from being the first AEW Champion.

mike adamle 05-22-2019 08:48 PM

I hope Joey Janela wins and faces Jericho for the belt. That would be insane

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 08:51 PM

Nah, it's got to be Moxley, right? They're going to need someone to hook people into the PPV. Moxley is about the only guy it can be.

mike adamle 05-22-2019 08:54 PM

Fuck that. Janela-Jericho would be ten times better. Janela is motivated. Ambrose has phoned it in for years. Give it to Janela.

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 08:56 PM

Unless it is Punk in a Luchasaurus mask somehow.

slik 05-22-2019 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5254421)
Is there any big name other than Moxley from outside AEW it could be?

CM Punk

mike adamle 05-22-2019 09:10 PM

You guys do realize they're trying not to be WWE-lite right?

Supreme Olajuwon 05-22-2019 09:15 PM

The more I think about it, I guess I could see Jericho as inaugural champion despite what he said about Brock. Jericho beating a young babyface for the title via shady tactics would work but it would poop all over the idea that AEW is different than WWE

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5254431)
CM Punk

He's supposed to be somewhere else doing commentary, but if it's possible to get him there, I'm sure they would.

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5254433)
The more I think about it, I guess I could see Jericho as inaugural champion despite what he said about Brock. Jericho beating a young babyface for the title via shady tactics would work but it would poop all over the idea that AEW is different than WWE

After watching the Before the Bell special, I'm thinking the same thing. Jericho presents himself really well in his segment on there. Omega kind of comes off in his own hype as rusty and like it's his match to lose. Jericho was setting up stories, introduced a new finishing move and really did set himself up as the heel to beat. His promo really sent the message of "I need to win," which doesn't mean he will, but I'm sure that's not accidental.

More pumped for Omega vs. Jericho having watched it.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-22-2019 10:30 PM

I don't think Jericho being inaugural champ shits on what he said about Lesnar. If Jericho wins, there's likely a long termgoal at play to ultimately get a new guy over and give him the rub of beating Jericho and being the company's 2nd ever champion.

That's different than just putting the belt on Lesnar and having him defend 4 or 5 times a year with no plans of using him to make someone.

Mr. Nerfect 05-22-2019 11:31 PM

No doubt. Jericho is excellent. I think it just feels a lot better to have the belt on Omega, who is the obvious ace.

Vastardikai 05-23-2019 12:00 AM

An upstart promotion needs to have their biggest star become their first champion. And Jericho is their biggest star.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-23-2019 12:08 AM

Jericho is their most recognizable star. As much as many of us may love Cody, Omega, etc., the casual wrestling fan that these guys are going to be trying to galvanize aren't likely to know who they are. Or maybe they do. I dunno. But as far as name recognition, Jericho is their biggest chip.

Mr. Nerfect 05-23-2019 12:22 AM

I don't think anyone denies that Jericho is the most recognizable guy they've got. I'm not sure that's who you go with as champion though.

Mr. Nerfect 05-23-2019 12:23 AM

Personally, I'd have put Omega over him at DoN and then gone to Omega vs. PAC and Jericho vs. Hangman Page at Fight for the Fallen. Kind of books itself. Omega could have beaten PAC (presuming PAC wasn't still Dragon Gate Champion) and Jericho could beat Page with his wily veteran tactics.

#1-norm-fan 05-23-2019 12:44 AM

I like the idea of putting it on Jericho and then building someone up to take it off of him. They’ve only got one chance to have a “first ever champion “. Make it a legendary name.

#1-norm-fan 05-23-2019 12:51 AM

I think Jericho, Omega and Cody are the only three guys who are big enough deals to make the title seem like a big deal from the get-go. Anyone else would have to be building up their credibility AFTER winning the title which is a shitty WWE tactic I hate.

And considering Cody and Kenny’s positions in the company, they might see it as a bad look to make themselves the first champion. So Jericho is the perfect choice for me.

Mr. Nerfect 05-23-2019 01:35 AM

I’m not going to be upset if it’s Jericho, but I’d rather Omega for that very reason. You’ve got one first-ever champ. Omega is going to be wrapped up in this thing forever and a day, most likely. He’s a great choice.

Mr. Nerfect 05-23-2019 02:12 AM

Given that they're announcing the championship stakes, I think we'll get a glimpse of the AEW Title belt at DoN.

Triple A 05-23-2019 02:13 AM

Here is a v small glimpse of the belt

https://www.tpww.net/wp-content/uplo.../aew-title.jpg

Mr. Nerfect 05-23-2019 02:17 AM

You obviously can't see much, but it looks classy. I'm sure that's the route they will go.


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