Son of a bitch.

I really liked Routh and SR (even if it was a little boring at parts). And everything I've heard about Justice League makes it sound like a total joke. I'm not even gonna bother with having to deal with Warner Bros' third Superman since 2000.

Third? Who's the non-Routh, non-Justice League Superman?

Well, I was counting Tom Welling. If only because I still have to keep explaining to half of my friends that the Superman movies aren't related to Smallville.

WETA Go:

New Zealand based effects shop Weta, who earned mainstream cred by FX'ing The LotR trilogy, is on tap to produce costumes for the upcoming JLA film. They may also do visual effects but that isn't final (I'm guessing yeah). Post-Prod is under way though the entire project is delayed because of that strike thing.

Superman Returns vs. Superman Reborn:

I know this back and forth is getting annoying but appearently Bryan Singer may return to Superman afterall... maybe. His reps say he's still attached to the sequel. But there are still murmurs going on about the new direction of the Superman franchise (based on the JLA Film universe). So its like this from what I read: If Singer returns, so does Brandon Routh; if Singer splits, the next Superman will be a JLA spin-off sans Routh.

DC's movie branch is a mess right now (no offense to TDK, which will own).

Okay... I'd Buy That:

With the strike finally being settle, my nightmare that was the JLA film is back on track... sort of: A new story outline has been pitched and possibly accepted. And it goes like this:

A slick move that not only touches on real events in DC's mythology, but keeps continuity issues regarding Bale and Routh being replaced by kids. So as it stands; I like the idea, if only because an eventual sequel could deal with the Return of Superman and Batman played by their respective actors. Now there will be a slight production delay to go with the new story, as filming will now begin in 2010 rather than this year (odd). Many of the actors attached have found other jobs for the year, so they can't do anything with JLA now (for some reason I don't believe that story).

Batman Anime Project First Look:

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Anyone else feel spoiled?

It's amazing to me how DC can manage to so consistantly get the Batman franchise done well and done right but fails horribely at most others.

Wow, I'm not usually a fan of anime, but I can't wait for that.

New Frontier is also coming out on the 26th, I believe. Can't wait for that one either.

If anyone cares.

Kevin Conroy, and not Christian Bale is doing the voice work for the Batman Anime.

Sweet.

Yes.

That looks pretty damn cool. It's nice to see that even if 90% of their movies have been derailed by the strike, DC is still putting out some quality stuff with their animated department.

Also...Deadshot? Really?

Superman... Returns?:

Bryan Singer is in the early developments of the next Superman film, which promises to "up the threat levels" now that the characters are established.

The new writing team will be the white hot duo of Roberto Orci & Alex Kurtzman [Transformers, Star Trek].

Whatever Singer, just get it out before JLA ruins everything good on Earth.

About time we got confirmation on that. It'll be nice to still have a Superman I don't utterly loathe.

Batman Gets Animated Again:

Not even a few months after the surprisingly alright The Batman series ends it's run we already have a new animated Batman series... But... Well... ...Just don't shoot the messenger.

http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/arti...4083633342.jpg

Cartoon Network will host this new series that envokes the mood, look, and camp of the Super Friends era. Batman will join other heroes on a regular like Green Arrow (in his Golden Age rags) and Blue Beetle (the new Blue Beetle, not Ted Kord). My brain's still trying to work out seeing Golden Age Ollie, Silver Age Bats, and Modern Age Beetle in one picture. I'm usually pretty open about different takes on properties I grew up with, and I understand the DCAU we all grew up loving will never return.

But really... Are they serious with this?

I won't judge too harshly just yet. As I said The Batman gained some steam in it's final season and I hear 'Legion isn't the crapshoot it seemed to be when it was first revealed. So I'll wait and see.

EDIT: That Ollie is infact Silver Age as well.

If Brave and the Bold was being done in Justice League Unlimited style (But with just two heroes per show, and one not necessarily always Batman) I'd watch it. I probably won't watch this one.

It won't have shit on Super Friends

I'll reserve my judgement til I see some more, but what a weird line-up. If they're gonna do classic BatB pairings, it oughta at least be Ollie and Hal.

The Spirit trailer:

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Looks like Miller has gone and changed The Spirit into Sin City. Which is kinda lame.

I just hope he doesn't start going around yelling "I'm the Goddamn Spirit!" at people.

Think it looks hot.

Yeah, it looks okay... for Sin City...

But this is supposed to be The Spirit. It just doesn't match the tone or... the spirit... of The Spirit at all.

Don't care. Looks good.

The Spirit seems interesting, but judging by the trailer and a wiki search, I'd say Lock Jaw is right. It's Sin City Light

What, you're surprised? Sin City is pretty much all Frank Miller can do.

Also, the line "she is my mother, she is my lover" sounds like the guy's got a serious Oedipus complex.

Why don't they make alive action batman show that's serious? I mean you'd think with all the csi and stuff they'd have a pretty good market for it.

I rather see a live action Nightwing series. It could take place right after he says "screw you" to Bruce and leaves for Bludhaven. The openning scene could be him tossing the Robin costume down a river.

I'd watch it.

For a different idea, I'd like to see a Gotham Central tv series.

I'd focus that on Renee Montoya. Add some Jim Gordon too.

Bat-Bump:

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SWEEEEEEEEEET

O my God

Smallville: Lex Bows Out, Doomsday Crashes In, and... Thalia Al Ghul?!?:

Michael Rosenbaum, voice of DCAU's Flash and Smallville's Lex Luthor is officially done with the latter. He won't be appearing in Season 8, not regularly anyway. He'll most likely head up cameo's in any case.

Now the new contenders for Smallville's baddies are already announced; Doomsday and a female villain. If you didn't know Smallville is a seperate continuity from other Supe's universes now you do. Casting for the one who famously killed Superman is underway. Then there's the new female villain who will be as troublesome for Clark as she is attracted. I'm gonna say Thalia for now.

I won't see any of this action for years now anyway since I skipped the last few years of 'Ville. I got alot of DVD catch up to do... years worth. But I'm game.

Ignorance Is Bliss:

A while back someone mentioned how Gotham Central would make a good TV show. Well lo and behold WB was this close to actually doing a show! But the reception Birds of Prey recieved way back shot down any other Gotham themed TV show (rats).

They should totally go for it. A CSI-like show based in Gotham City would own.

Superman Speaks About... Things!:

Brandon Routh speaks on a number of subjects, including the next Superman and the darker half of the World's Finest.

On the upcoming "Man of Steel":

On Justice League:

I love this guy.

On an exclusive Superman/Batman movie:

I wouldn't mind Justice League if The World's Finest gets their own movie.

On taking up the mantle after the real Superman:

On non-DC work, Dylan Dog:

Just my two cents here, but it seems with so people speculating a Superman Sequel, a Batman/Superman film, and a Justice League film, along with obviously the Dark Knight, does DC actually do anything other than Batman and Superman?

I know Watchmen is being made into a film, but for real... when are DC gonna blow us away with news of a Green Lantern movie? Or a Wonder Woman film?

You can argue how good all the films are, but Marvel has spoilt us with films these last 10 years, releasing movies for pretty much all their major characters.

It also seems that every DC animated program is Batman and Superman. Hell, even the Justice League cartoon (which I really liked) was always Bats and Supes.

I'd love to see a Nightwing movie... but that'll probably never happen. And if it did, half the movie would probably be him expressing the fact that he use to be Batman's sidekick.

My post also relates to a post someone made in another comic thread somewhere. They said how DC doesn't seem to have as much faith in their lesser characters as Marvel does. Whereas Marvel have faith in all their characters, most of what DC does features around Batman and Superman.

DC has been lacking in the movie department. I believe alot of it has to do with arrogance on their part. I mean c'mon, Superman Returns makes 400mil and that's a disappointment to WB? What did they expect? They're trying to make the next Spidey 2/X2 and that stalls them to a degree. Marvel on the other hand promises two movies a year, crap or not. And you know what, their insistance on releasing so many movies in so little time has become their strength.

Not only does Marvel have more characters on screen, the characters themselves have movie series. Spidey and Blade already have their Trilogy, DD and Elektra are connected, there's already talk of Iron Man 2 and we're seeing the second Hulk film in so many years. DC needs to pick up the pace and get down on Teen Titans, Super Max, and Wonder Woman. Talk is cheap. Justice League will be a joke, but a fun joke that might be worth a DVD purchase if they get to work.

Exactly. You're also forgetting 2 Fantastic Four Movies and 3 X-Men movies.

Personally I've enjoyed all the Marvel movies, and the DC ones for that matter (except Catwoman). Even Elektra was watchable. But because Marvel are releasing so many, it keeps interest in the comics going. With DC only doing Batman and Superman it's like "well why should I care about Green Arrow/Red Tornado/Blue Beetle etc?".

Green Lantern has trilogy potential written all over it.

But each film will have a cameo by Batman or Superman. :D

I was talking about that last night to someone

I think Batman is just a better and easier story to tell, not to mention the actors they gotten to play Batman and other characters in the universe (Liam Nesson) have been great

They've been trying to get a Wonder Woman and Flash movie going for years, things just don't come together.


As for Marvel, after Iron Man, Hulk and Punisher, the only movie they've got slated officially for release is Wolverine for next summer. Nothing else is planned beyond that.

Marvel has more planned. I mean, they have movies for Ant-Man and freaking Shang-Chi planned. Marvel really is better in the "give everybody movies" department.

DC needs to get on this. I want to see a Spectre movie. But only if they make it good.

Wrong thread

That'll never happen.

Shadow Pact

DC News Time Warp:

From Beetlejuice to Batman?!?:

Michael Keaton [Beetlejuice, Clean and Sober] has been cast as... wait for it... Batman. Yes, Tim Burton [Director] appearently digs him from his experience in Beetlejuice and believes he has the ability to convey his version of the Dark Knight.

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The Beetlejuice guy? Really? I like the movie but c'mon...

Word is Jack Nicholson [The Shining] was approached a while back, but has yet to be signed pending "several demands". Here's hoping he gets on board, Jack is the man. Still, if I see Paul Reubens as Robin or Batman crack a Beetlejuice line I'm gonna walk out of the theater. Let's pray Tim Burton does justice.

The Dark Knight Will Be a Long Night?:

Reports are claiming that upcoming Batman film will clock in at 152mins. By comparrison, Batman Begins was 140mins. Not that I mind. And coming to a bus-side near you:

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Heath Ledger died and he still gets third billing behind Alfred? Jesus.

2 1/2 hours?! I doubt I'll be going to see that one then. :(

what else are you going to do in that 2 1/2 hours? come on

Well its not like its a no name playing alfred... its fucking Michael Caine!

Yeah, and the lead role always gets first billing.

Caine was awesome in Batman Begins.

A W E S O M E

Yes, yes it was

I Go For The Trailers...:

Rumored trailers preceding TDK are Watchmen, Dragonball, Star Wars Clone Wars, Harry Potter 6, Terminator Salvation, and Body of Lies.

Really hoping for a Watchmen trailer. The rest are just gravy :y:

Ignorance Remains Bliss:

IGN just posted an article that a TV show based on a young Bruce Wayne was nearly a reality. It was whispered about in the late 90's/early 2000's but was shelved when superhero movies made their comeback with Blade and X-Men. I guess in all fairness the decision gave us Batman Begins, but that was in 2005. Had the show come to be we would have got a good number a seasons, and maybe various crossovers with Smallville (Hercules/Xena).

The show would have had a young law student Harvey Dent, med student Harlen Quinzelle, Dt. Jim Gordon, possibly a child Barbara Gordon, and an angry comic named Jack Napier.

That show would've rocked.

bruce needs to make an appearance in smallville here pretty soon

Doubt it, for the same reasons Diana didn't show up.

Saw the new Batman movie....yes it is 2.5 hours long. It was awesome. Enough said.

Brave And the Bold Trailer:

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I like seeing the new Blue Beetle animated but this is the kind of Batman I hoped never to see again on TV. It looks insulting even next to other kid-focused programs.

Kite-Man? Seriously? That's not a good sign.

Wonder Woman Animated:

The next DC Animated DVD will be about good old Diana, in an origin story that presents her as young and adventurous. They'll hoping it to be the Wonder Woman movie, striking cords in girls the way Superman and Batman does for boys (though I personally believe good movies are beyond gender tastes).

Yes; Bruce Timm and Andrea Romano are behind this (father and mother of the DCAU). So everything's cool.

DC Universe Welcomes...:

In the comic realm of things, DC has recently aquired Archie and Milestone comics. Their characters will slowly be integrated into the official DC Universe. For Milestone, this means Static Shock (who was apart of the DC Animated Universe) will be coming over as an official character. Hell, he's already planned to join the Teen Titans.

I always loved the old DC/Milestone Worlds Collide crossover. Wonder if the characters will remember it or if it has been retconned.

Most likely retconned, those guys will have updated origins in line with the current DCU.

Wonder Woman is probably the only DC character I'd be interested in seeing a movie for. That and perhaps the Justice League.

^gay

Smallville Gets Serious:

With a show people are saying is limping a season or two too long, you gotta wonder how it will handle the crushing blow of Lex Luther leaving the show, along with Lana "Chun Li" Lang (yes I know the real actor's names, I just don't feel like spellng them). Well, at CC the handlers of the show revealed that new villains will arrive to fill the void (two for the departure of one, Lex was a serious addition). One is a new character filling the 'blue colar' villain act, a role I had hoped would be Thalia Al Ghul; but is instead a new character for the show. The other is a paramedic, a truely nice guy by day...

And Doomsday by night.

Another tidbit is later in the season we'll get to see the Legion of Superheroes make a visit.

I love Smallville, and I gotta see how they manage out this season. It should be interesting.

I gotta admit, that sounds truly awful.

Why is doomsday a paramedic?...that doesn't sound good, not good at all. Couldn't they have just made doomsday......doomsday.

They might as well, someone ends up in that hospital every episode.

That is very true.

I'm weary of the werewolf gimmick m'self. Might make for a good laugh, though.

The Legion showing up could be promising though.

I wonder if this means we'll finally get to see who'd win a race between the Flash and Sonic the Hedgehog (since his comic's an Archie property)

Smallville is old... they need to get over it.

The past few seasons have actually been decent. The first few were blah though.

So now apparently Warner Bros' strategy is going to make all of DC's movies 'dark-and-gritty' like The Dark Knight:

source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1219...googlenews_wsj

So I guess it's good news for people who didn't like Superman Returns. Still, a 'dark and gritty' Superman?! Jesus Christ, that's going to suck.

By "going dark to the extent that the characters allow it" I think Superman wouldn't be as dark as Batman. I think what they're trying to get at it trying to do serious things and trying to stay away from camp or whatever. A more serious Lex Luthor could be brilliant.... but then you'd get people going "UGH Lex Luthor AGAIN?! How lame! Superman sucks! Boo Superman! I'm not even going to BOTHER going to see this! Take THAT Superman!"

I'm not against giving Superman a serious treatment and avoiding the campy stuff, but at the same time, making him intentionally 'dark' seems to ignore the very basics of why the character works. That, and I still have a bad taste in my mouth from when the comics tried it in the 90s.

And yeah, as much as I'd love to see Lex Luthor get a more serious reboot, I think it's high time the spotlight went to, say, Brainiac.

I don't think they'd so much as make Superman dark as make his villain dark and the situation he finds himself in.

Braniac would work, but for some reason I see them going with a more "human" version or something. No cold robot guy.

Manchester Black could work for a movie, but it would possibly just end up being the exact story of Dark Knight, but with a sane british guy instead of an insane clown.

Good job WB on not knowing how to handle your superhero properties. :y:

What is with people always cumming over "dark" stories. Batman is "darker" and all of a sudden people are ejaculating. Batman's character has always been "dark" but I don't think everything needs to be.

For fucks sake ask the negro community if darker is better. :foc:

And to be on subject, the Dark Knight was awesome. Superman Returns was alright, but Superman is not a "dark" character. Just do a Superman VS Doomsday film with approximately 75% of the film being raging battles with these two destroying all kinds of shit. :y:

Own Heath Ledger's Epic Final Act:

The Dark Knight drops Dec. 9th.

Went to see The Dark Knight at the IMAX today, saw the trailer for Watchmen. Although I know nothing about the franchise it looks FRICKIN' AWESOME!!

Hope you like it, because they're already talking sequels...

To Watchmen? :(

So... They are apparently making a show called The Graysons for the CW. http://www.newsarama.com/tv/100801-GraysonsonCW.html

It will feature a teenaged Dick Grayson's life before he becomes Robin. Why anyone wants to see his life before then, I don't know. Also, he's going to known as Dick "DJ" Grayson, because that sounds way more hip.

LOL So we're gonna have some circus drama?!? C'mon... "Bruce Wayne" or "GCPD" would've been much more appealing.

A Gotham Central show would be sweet.

Robin: :|

I like Dick, as Robin and Nightwing, but his backstory doesn't have much to it until his parents die. Oops, spoiler alert.

I've heard that about you

The studios have been talking about it, unfortunately. My money says any hypothetical sequel gets trapped forever in development hell, though, especially since Snyder and others are pretty opposed to the idea.

Riddle Me This, Savy...:

You guys probably heard by now but Johnny Depp is definitely in the run to portray the Riddler in the next Batman. Ofcourse if you ask him he'll simply something like "Oh, that would be fun." But WB has all but came out with it. Micheal Cain confirmed it, too. And he knows everything. I think.

Reply #297 is probably why they have decided to randomly call him "DJ".