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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thought about this a bit today. <a href="https://t.co/kNZBiy8hxf">pic.twitter.com/kNZBiy8hxf</a></p>— Lance Storm (@LanceStorm) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceStorm/status/1462908936844050432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Egg thing and Netflix movie promotion really highlights how WWE’s business isn’t pro wrestling, it’s selling itself to other businesses. Anything that satisfies fans is secondary to business-to-business income.</p>— Will! (@itswilltime) <a href="https://twitter.com/itswilltime/status/1462928352868646913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Fan making an even stronger push for my KOTF vote
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This ain’t even close to the darkest timeline. |
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As for the TPWW forum, what's with these *few* guys ruining the community for everyone? How sad must your life be to spend HOURS writing long posts, that people skip over, arguing with people over semantics, defending a wrestling promotion you dislike, disparaging an emerging wrestling promotion bringing healthy competition with a focus on actual wrestling, all the while not even bothering to watch... Can we move on and enjoy wrestling again? |
Well said CC
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CripplerCrossface is a true TPWW original. Remember him from the 90s. His full-time return would be wonderful.
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Oh Noid.
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Didn't read through the thread, just here to say that Becky vs. Charlotte was sick and the only part of the show I watched. Wish it meant something.
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You lost me at "no one is enjoying wrestling" because I'm high as hell on some of stuff out there, as I'm sure many are. Just because you're clearly a miserable person doesn't mean that we all are? |
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Also, not enjoying current wrestling doesn’t mean you are miserable. Why do people on the internet always feel the need to project moods onto people. There’s lots to be joyful about in life — it doesn’t mean you have to walk around with a fake-ass smile on your face when it comes to the content being put out there in this particular genre. And just as sure as not enjoying something doesn’t make you miserable, enjoying something doesn’t mean you’re not miserable. |
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Imagine how much less embarrassing these last two pages could have been for you if you just nipped it in the bud early with an “Oops. I misinterpreted some posts and thought The Rock came back. My mistake.” I mean... you’d still have been ragged on a bit because people don’t like you but it wouldn’t look nearly as bad as this hole you’ve dug while trying to backtrack and deflect blame for your mistake. |
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Lol, I’m not embarrassed. You haven’t even interpreted the situation right. I didn’t *think* The Rock came back. I read that he had, made a flippant statement about the internet whinging about it, then it turns out he didn’t, which made way more sense and I would have known for sure if I had given a shit about this show. I’m not embarrassed to make a snarky line about misinformation. Most of this has been me responding to the dogpile, which is because people don’t like me, which I have no interest in remediating. And I’m convinced it comes out of jealousy and frustration that I say things that cuts through people’s bullshit. You pointing out I post a lot? Holy fuck. Cool, man. Great observation. I love posting. So fucking what? How dare I do that on a forum, grumble, grumble. You’re honestly this close to making the ignore list, because your posts lately contain no meat, despite being so focused in on me. Get over yourself and shape up. |
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Somebody give noid the gold for mental gymnastics, good lord lol
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LOL The classic “Don’t make me put you on ignore!” tactic. What a goof.
Translation: You’re this close to pretending to ignore me because it’s becoming clear that your only chance of not coming off like a total moron when I call you out on your constant bullshit and dumb comments is pretending you can’t see it. As has been pointed out, these awkward mental gymnastics definitely aren’t doing the trick. I can’t imagine you even successfully forced YOURSELF to believe this Rock excuse. :lol: |
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I don’t pretend to ignore people, dude. People make the list for borderline bigotry or because they add nothing. You’re steadily approaching the second camp. There’s absolutely no meat in anything you’ve been saying lately. Lol, mental gymnastics? Because I read some whiny posts about The Rock and responded to them? Those aren’t mental gymnastics, dude. Squint harder. “The New Avengers movie sucked. I can’t believe Spider-Man got killed in the first ten minutes.” “I had no clue Spider-Man was going to die because Tom Holland is signed on for way more movies, but there’s probably a reason if you think about it.” “Spider-Man didn’t even die! Haha! If you had seen the movie you would know that!” “Well, I hadn’t seen the movie…” “How embarrassing for you!” “I don’t really like the Avengers movies that much anymore. I still follow them loosely, but I haven’t been into them because they kind of suck.” “Then why do you still talk about Avengers movies?” “It’s a habit and I’m still obsessed with comic books and comic book movies. Not that I can find a comic book movie that is very good. And the discussion around comic books isn’t very stimulating these days.” “Mental gymnastics!!! Lol, I can’t believe you actually thought Spider-Man died.” :lol: I’m not the one doing backflips here. |
JFC. What kind of idiot believes that someone else would gives a shit if the idiot ignores them? How fucking pathetic do you have to be to post that as if it's some kind of threat let alone something anyone here would remotely care about?
"Oh no, you're ignoring me! What a tragedy!" What a fucking clown. :lol: |
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You’re too funny and so frivolous that it’s not even worth blocking you. I don’t think I can even respond to a post of yours without completely shutting you down. This even happens in your specialty subjects. And people notice it too. Don’t know if you’ve noticed, but one of the blanket defenses of AEW here is “We’re not unreasonable fanboys here,” (debatable), “the only guy you can say that about is BigCrippyZ.” |
Oh wow! Do I get bonus points if I act like I care?
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My favorite is when you used to call me “The King of Logic” and then broke down when I aimed that logic at AEW. Now I’m just a pathetic moron who likes sucking cocks. Seems logical. Speaking of mental gymnastics, by the way. |
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One thing I've noticed over the years is that Noid likes to remind people how popular he is in real life and in online circles. A very odd choice, probably to reassure himself.
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From that very polite first response to the blatant avoidance of major parts of the conversation as he becomes a poor innocent victim. There is a serious mental issue at play here. Fucking hell. |
Noid - “no one is enjoying wrestling”
Also Noid - “why do people on the internet always feel the need to project moods onto people” |
Can someone find the post where Noid talks about being the life of parties where people would gather around him to listen and how he'd avoid AEW fans at said gatherings?
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my take away from this page is being negative about wrestling or a wrestling is unacceptable but being negative about a singular human being is completely ok.
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I won’t speak for everyone else but for me personally Noid’s negativity isn’t even on the list of issues I have with him. I’m pro negativity in general.
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My take away here is if your gonna be a window licker your gonna get the attention you so desperately crave but it may turn on you at some point when your schtick gets old. Honesty the Cornette light stuff has just gotten really old at this point. |
Boring
Not pointing the finger, but obviously some of the takes here are horrendous |
I don’t care if he’s negative on anything in particular that he doesn’t enjoy if he actually were to watch it. That’s not what he does though. Instead he bitches about something he doesn’t watch and makes up complete bullshit about the inner workings of an industry he knows almost nothing about and uses his own bullshit to justify and defend his bitching to pretend to be some genius instead of the moronic, pathetic troll that he is.
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Noid just sucks
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I also love how he’s trying the “You started calling me out after I called you out!” thing. Lol
I can literally point out the exact moment where I stopped biting my tongue because Noid and I were friends and said “fuck it” and started making him defend his more ridiculous bullshit. I can also pinpoint the moment after I started doing that where he started desperately trying to call ME out to try to save face. He’s trying really hard to flip history on events that have the dates posted right there on the left. Combine that with the absolutely insane interpretation he gave with that Spider-man analogy earlier. The guy seriously creates his own world in his mind with its own events and its own special logic and then argues based on that. It’s insane. |
The thing with this Rock/Reigns deal is that the story writes itself; “The Head of the Table”, “The Tribal Chief”, the man that puts the food on the table for the whole family, confronted by his own cousin who’s the actual trailblazer, the biggest star on the planet. Cousin vs Cousin.
And when a story writes itself so easily and you don’t plan to deliver it you should be doing everything to go in the opposite direction - if you don’t want to disappoint your fan base that is. At Survivor Series they clearly leaned into it. They might not have expressly advertised it but they hinted at it. They laid the table, pardon the pun. Which makes me think the plan is for it to happen at some point. Not in 2022 though. You can’t blame the fans for anticipating on the night. |
I have zero doubt that they are pushing really hard to have the Rock put over Reigns, as they should.
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I don’t think “Hey, 25 years ago the biggest star on the planet made his debut with us, we’re going to talk about that” necessarily sends the promotional message the IWC is claiming it does. |
But it wasn’t just the promotional packages. The scene with Vince and Reigns that referenced The Rock didn’t really add anything other than calling out the relationship between Reigns and Rock. That planted a seed. Whether they intended it to - and whether or not that was intentional - is debatable.
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Let’s not forget that Roman also hit the Rock Bottom during the match.
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By the way, if Rock is coming back in some capacity for WrestleMania — host, enforcer, etc. — it was doubtful he was going to establish that at Survivor Series anyway. That’s Raw after Royal Rumble type stuff. |
Yeah it could be just a little “shout out” to The Rock on the 25th anniversary of his debut.
For the record, I don’t think they do Rock/Reigns at next year’s Mania, if anything they do something to set it up for WrestleMania Hollywood II in the same vein as they set up Rock vs. Cena “Once” in a lifetime. |
I can see there being some sort of interaction at some point, but I just can’t see Rock working a match at this point. Being in ring shape and finding the time to do that as opposed to doing movies and otherwise being an entrepreneur just doesn’t seem to fit. I can see him involved in WrestleMania — possibly even the next two — but I just can’t see him working that match with Reigns. The role for him seems to be something like raising the hand of the guy who beats Reigns. Maybe slapping Heyman out, motivating The Usos to stand up for themselves. That sort of thing.
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Rock will acknowledge Reigns and be in his corner. Heyman will get the boot from "the family" and go back to Brock's corner.
Pay me. |
Since #fan has been going absolutely insane about this in the Ratings Thread, I’m going to come back in here and explain myself because he’s latched onto this so hard:
I checked out TPWW on my lunch break and saw a bunch of people, can’t remember who, acting like The Rock was back. When I’ve signed in, I think I’ve got a lot of them on ignore (so probably Guru Dave and/or Damien Rey), which is further proof of why ignoring them was a great idea. I had a little laugh at how fickle a large contingent of the online wresting audience can be, with their simple WWE = bad narrative, and my perception that they were complaining that they somehow got The Rock back. I then got attacked because it turns out The Rock didn’t come back (which would have been my guess, considering the dude is SO fucking busy and can’t afford to take bumps), and for not actually watching a show they were complaining about. So take it as a hypothetical. I’m sure if The Rock did come back and raise Roman’s arm or something, they would complain. Yes, that’s a hasty generalization, but I think it’s a correct one. But I in no way feel embarrassed about scanning TPWW, taking in some bullshit posts and making a flippant comment. Nor am I embarrassed because I did not watch Survivor Series, lol. I also stand by everything I said about it making total sense for the WWE to promote The Rock’s debut at the event 25 years ago, and it being pretty unreasonable to expect the guy to come roaring back into wrestling when it could jeopardize his film schedule. I hope that clears things up. I did not know if Rock actually came back or not — I would have said no. In fact, I said in Vastardikai’s thread that it may be possible for him to send in a video or something, which would have been cool, but that’s about the most you could hope for. I just read that he had from some shitty posters, and made a flippant remark about how fickle some people are. It works whether he actually came back or not, because I’m pretty sure those people are going to remain as fickle. Cheers! Your friendly neighborhood Noid. |
Ah, so Noid does have me on ignore but logs in without his account so he can still view my posts. I wish he’d stop creepily obsessing over me. Like get over me pal. Plans change.
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Oh. Since it bumped...
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By the way, I call you out because you’ve become a shallow apologist who can’t even answer direct questions, seemingly focused on trying to catch me in some sort of moment where I get something wrong, like it matters. Because it does to you. So much for some reason. It became really apparent after I called you out on the frivolity of your “they should hire talented people regardless of where they come from.” That cut you real deep. Since then you’ve been projecting the same embarrassment onto me. I’ll say it again: Only in the IWC would you find people complaining about the return of The Rock. I stand by that completely. |
Throwing a “can’t even answer direct questions” in a post where you clearly dodge the direct problems being stated isn’t helping your case...
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Neither is going back to the awkwardly desperate reach of that “hiring talented people“ argument you tried to start to save face after I started calling you on your bullshit. You REALLY felt good about that one in your fantasy world. You can go ahead and bump that thread and try again too after you duck and dodge here for a while.
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When was the last time you actually made a point instead of trying to smear people? The last actual point you’ve made. Not the last time you said someone is delusional or whatever to dismiss them outright? You act like you’re Mr. Logic, but you’ve been nothing but ad hominem and insecurity lately. I could have just said “Wait, The Rock didn’t come back? Why the fuck are there muppets on here acting like he did?” By then I was already being called names because I didn’t watch the show and “fell for it” or whatever. I’ll admit that I made no effort to diffuse it, but I don’t see my doubling down on it the way you do. Wrestling fans are fickle and they absolutely would whinge if The Rock returned. It was a little jab. It doesn’t actually matter if he did or not. But people are acting like me acting on the assumption that something posted here was actually true is bonkers. Lol, what? I saw something, quipped about it, got mocked (I’m not the one who watched Survivor Series) and stand by what I said. And my perception of it. There’s such a willingness to dogpile someone when they go against the grain here. Whether it’s me, xrod, CyNick or someone else. I’m not “playing a victim.” It’s been the way this place has been for some time. I don’t like it, per se, but it doesn’t worry me, because I honestly get a kick out of how much heat I get for what I believe is honesty that stings people because they recognize the truth in it. |
I don’t tread lightly on people. Maybe I should be kinder? I dunno, but I don’t expect them to tread lightly on me either. But I don’t agree with the assessment you’re making of the situation at all. I don’t think you’re right. I do believe it’s you doing the gymnastics to try and get me into a position where I’m “wrong” because you are pretty darn desperate to try and get one over me.
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For the sake of trying to get you to see the problem in just ONE small issue...
You get dog piled on with the same energy you give. Your analogy showed you as a poor innocent victim giving a nice, polite response and then getting shit on for it by a bunch of assholes. Reality showed an asshole making a smug insult based on something that it turns out didn’t happen and he got shit on for it with the same “asshole energy”. Go ahead and be a smug asshole. But don’t pretend you’re just a poor boy being ganged up on when it backfires and that same energy is returned. |
What fan said. I didn’t have a problem with Noid until he started being an asshole to the regular contributors. He deserves a slice of humble pie.
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I don’t think I’ve seen so many words written by someone because they made a bit of a tit of themselves.
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Lmao a simple “oops should’ve read the results instead of only looking here” and a chuckle at himself would’ve squashed this immediately. Instead he’s just digging deeper and deeper holes.
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Do yanks really struggle with hypotheticals and conditional statements? I’ve noticed you in particular do this a lot. It doesn’t matter whether or not the thing I was responding to was actually true or not. I’m just befuddled at how many people latched onto me not being sure it didn’t happen as a “gotcha.” |
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I would have said this all at the time. I can do it by memory. I think you’re either misremembering or flat-out lying. |
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As usual only read the results and judging solely by them, this event sucked ass.
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How it started...
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TL;DR : Basically what I said before. An idea isn’t necessarily good in conception even if it is salvaged by performance, etc. These can also be detrimental to your end product. But even if something works, you can still criticize its writing. That’s a direct answer to the question. I just thought it was the wrong question to ask, which I could have explained better at the time. |
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By the way, I gave Jericho way too much grace as a performer. He’s kind of the shits and has been for a long, long time now.
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I just did a quick search and posted what was being discussed. Nothing weird at all at bringing posts in question in plain sight is there? |
lol it took me randomly remembering that interaction after months/years(?) and someone else posting the quotes to finally answer a direct question. Congratulations.
(and you still claim you addressed it despite evidence staring you in the face that you did not) |
Dude just accused me of “making up a reality that doesn’t exist” in response to me simply quoting his ACTUAL initial post followed by his ACTUAL warped interpretation. Lol Unbelievable.
This thread is a Noid-logic, hole-digging gift from God. |
I didn't watch Survivor Series, but I'm glad I stumbled into this thread anyway. What a treat.
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I’ve noticed you do this a lot, but there is a lot of dishonesty is how you attempt to argue. I don’t even remember that Spider-Man analogy, but do stand by it. Where did I ever claim that was how I think this “started?” Can you find that, or did you just pull it out of your ass because it is convenient? Again, where did I claim I was a “poor boy?” You just flat-out lie at this point. |
I’ve stood back and watched it without commenting in the past, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a string of quotes from you that a) actually connect to each other, and b) actually say what you think they say. They’re at best cherry-picked and disconnected, at worst blatantly dishonest and misleading.
It’s all the more annoying because you seem to place pride in logic. But I genuinely don’t think you understand it anywhere near the level you think you do. Your reasoning is constantly fallacious. You’re responding emotionally to things and letting that influence your reading. And everyone is capable of that, but you really seem to think you’re above it. And you seem to suffer from the conviction that you’re right, and if you’re right, then if you said it, it’s right. Can you actually back up either of your accusations that: a) I believe that this didn’t start with my comment about The Rock? b) I actually labeled myself any sort of victim? These are untruths, man. They’re just false, lol. |
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And yes, when you accuse everyone of unnecessarily dog piling on you because “I’m just speaking the truth and people can’t handle it!” you’re painting yourself as a victim of the mob. That’s not even an insult. I’d think you should be the first to admit that. Lol
Though given that horrible understanding of what I’m telling you by pointing out this analogy, I don’t expect that to register either. |
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Also noticed you scurry away from the second question. Is it because you know you are lying? |
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THE FIRST POST WAS THE FIRST POST. THE SECOND POST WAS YOUR RIDICULOUS INTERPRETATION TO PAINT YOURSELF IN A BETTER LIGHT. I’M NOT BRINGING IT UP AS THE “FIRST POST”.
HOW ARE YOU THIS CONFUSED??? |
*Awaiting the weird “Ya but the first post was the first post.” comment.*
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My comment about The Rock was intended to be flippant. Whether or not it was interpreted that way could be tone, miscommunication or, yeah dude, down to the reader’s error or biases. Let me explain: Only in the IWC would you find people complaining about The Rock’s return. ;) |
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Painting myself in a better light would have been to drop it. I got goaded back in here because you got pissy you got called out in another argument. I don’t give a shit about what light I am painted in. Your interpretation of that is delusional, lol. How I think it started was with my Rock comment. |
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We're never gonna MAKE TPWW RASSLIN FORUM GREAT AGAIN at this rate fellas.
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I did my part with the watch-a-long. Now Noid needs to do his part by having someone he loves read and explain posts to him so that he can understand what’s being conveyed.
A king is only as strong as his weakest subject. |
i think normally the king would just say fuck it and kill the weakest subject off. at least put em in the stocks.
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Wait yeah, what am I saying? A king is a king. Fuck this dipshit.
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Lock his ass up down under the castle.
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So banish him to the video game forum.
Good idea... |
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God you cunts have the shittest arguments.
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