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Ryback jobbing to Henry at 29 (and clean, no less, if I recall), was absolutely retarded. BUT, damn that next night when he came out and attacked Cena, the crowd were hot for that! I remember not knowing if it was a heel turn or just a "he's had enough and he's gunning for the champ" kinda thing, but it was awesome!
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Nobody wants to sign Ryback. He's insane. I never cared for.him outside of the few 6 man tags he was apart of at one time with the likes of Braun, Punk, and The Sheild.
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I know he was a huge muscle-bound dude but.... I always found him too short/small to be taken seriously as a "monster". Plus all that stuff with not being able to lift some of the bigger dudes
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It only happened to Tensai. Tensai didn't exactly help Ryback getting up there.
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As long as Ryback doesn't have to cut any long promos, I'd be fine seeing him rassle again.
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I don't think at this stage he would be much of a difference maker long term, but he would "pop the terrority" for a short while, certainly bigger than Christian, Mark Henry, or Big Show. |
Dude, Paul Wight is the BIGGEST signing in AEW history and Mark Henry is the STRONGEST signing they could make.
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I would say that Ryback is STARVED to get back in the ring though.
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Next wave coming today ALLEGEDLY
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Fandango and Tony Nese just posted their goodbyes
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Ariya Daivari
NXT tag team Ever-Rise |
Cesaro has been released.
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Fandango’s about to be 40. I don’t give a fuck though. If AEW doesn’t snatch him up and make him the face of the company after WWE wasted the prime of the next Hulk Hogan, WWE wins. This is your chance, Tony Khan.
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It wouldn't shock me if they parted ways with Keith Lee since something seems amiss there
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I am so drunk and horny
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RP’s cock has been released
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they fired the writter who did not know the name of the raw champ.
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there goes tyler breze
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August Grey of NXT/205 Live
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">*BREAKING NEWS*<br><br>Tonight’s <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE205Live?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@WWE205Live</a> Main Event has just been turned into a LOSER LEAVES TOWN MATCH!<br><br>Don’t miss it!!! <a href="https://t.co/SmApTs3ugu">pic.twitter.com/SmApTs3ugu</a></p>— August Grey (@AugustGreyWWE) <a href="https://twitter.com/AugustGreyWWE/status/1408517123475976199?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
let's see if he shoots tonight
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I have no idea what Sean means by this
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I think that today's releases will have ramifications for WWE in about six months.</p>— Sean Ross Sapp of Voice Over Work (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1408517862122213386?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
The Singh Brothers have been hindered from their contracts
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Arturo Ruas
Marina Shafir Curt Stallion |
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Killian Dane released
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">205 dead</p>— Andy (@AndyNemmity) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndyNemmity/status/1408530100828590085?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Weird when they release one married couple and keep the other.
Dain out, Nikki still in Shafif out, Strong still in Always makes me wonder if the other is next |
Let’s all take this time to remember the microcosm of WWE’s wildly out of touch ways that occurred when Fandango’s theme song started to go viral and WWE tried to take control of it by sending Jerry Lawler out to basically be like “This groovy tune is sweeping the nation, huh youngsters?!”, immediately sucking any joy out of it.
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cross is the only one from sanity left.
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tonight would be a good night to end 205 live
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And thank God she did
Best heel in the company |
Nikki Cross has been released.
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Killian Dain is awesome. Such a waste.
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Xavier Woods’ YouTube channel takes a big time hit with Breeze’s release
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If Tyler Breeze isnt impact world champion by the end of 2021 then there is no joy in anything.
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Jericho seems to have a chapped ass about putting him over at Mania. Arturo Ruas will probably disappear from wrestling, unless he really wants to keep going. I see Marina Shafir stepping aside too. But I think everyone else at least has a cup of coffee in AEW, regardless of value to the product.
It’ll just be Fandango in TNA. |
I’m honestly surprised Shelton has survived these cuts.
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Honestly though, I’d kinda rather see him in NWA. For whatever reason, Billy Corgan seems like the only hope for someone recognizing and properly growing a true “star”. Even if his resources are limited and the star will just have to be a big fish in a small pond. I just wanna see one more charismatic, likeable star in wrestling pushed properly before it completely becomes an obsolete form of entertainment. |
Jericho's ego is so fragile nowadays I could see him getting TK to hire Dango just so Jericho can get that Mania win back, like Warrior in WCW for a bit just to job to Hogan.
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Apparently Breezango, Killian Dain, Arturo Ruas, Tony Nese, Ariya Daivari, and the Bollywood Boyz all had main roster contracts with the standard 90 day non-competes. Breezango and Dain are obvious. Ruas was technically "called up" as part of Raw Underground and he got drafted to Raw but then sent him right back down.
205 Live was considered main roster from 2016-19 when it got rolled into NXT so all those early 205 signings were main roster whereas people like August Grey and Curt Stallion were still considered NXT so they have a shorter non-compete window. That said some guys are probably gonna negotiate their way out of the non-compete deals. WWE won't be losing sleep if the 205 guys wind up at Slammiversary or whatever. |
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Did Breezango ever win the tag titles? Can't remember....
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Wiki tells me they won the NXT Tag Titles once, but never on the main roster....
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">New day, new WWE departures. <br><br>Looks like producer Sonjay Dutt is out and the big one: Canyon Cemen WWE's Senior Director of Talent Development is also gone.</p>— Voices of Wrestling (@voiceswrestling) <a href="https://twitter.com/voiceswrestling/status/1409906102330855429?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 29, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Vince is scheduled to visit the Performance Center on Thursday. Supposedly he is finally in big-time "let us find and make new stars mode". Releases possibly going to be continue throughout summer and fall as well.
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Seeing conflicting stuff that Canyon has not been released
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Cemen, Canyon
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So the Cemen release was premature
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Quite a sticky situation
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Yeah they've got a bit of a mess on their hands.
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I didn't even know Sonjay Dutt was in wwe.
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Weird to me that Sonjay Dutt and Abyss got agent jobs with the WWE even though they never worked there. I guess it’s always been that way. It’s just one of Vince’s idiosyncrasies. Everything has to be done this “WWE way” with its self-fulfilling prophecies and shit, but then a lot of the agents are guys that either didn’t have outstanding runs there, or never even worked in one of their rings.
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abyss has a sports med degree from u of ohio, i knew he would get some job from wwe.
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The difference is loads of people have been called up from NXT and largely nothing has been done with them, or any immediate push they were given instantly flamed out.
Vince going there himself would suggest he's gonna pick someone to genuinely rocket strap. |
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WHO BETTER THAN CANYON!
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HA Breeze and Fandango hosting the Networks top 50 tag teams and didnt even stay employed for the last episode!
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It’d be funny if they ranked and they had another team slotting them in. RIP.
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According to Sean Ross Sapp, it’s a Smackdown bloodbath tonight
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Bobby Fish, Bronson Reed, and Mercedes Martinez gone
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Tyler Rust who just debuted in a stable gone too. Jesus.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In all, WWE released<br><br>-Bobby Fish<br>-Bronson Reed<br>-Jake Atlas<br>-Ari Sterling<br>-Kona Reeves <br>-Leon Ruff<br>-Stephon Smith<br>-Tyler Rust<br>-Zechariah Smith<br>-Asher Hale<br>-Giant Zanjeer<br>-Mercedes Martinez.</p>— Sean Ross Sapp of Fightful.com (@SeanRossSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanRossSapp/status/1423816333649715204?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 7, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Mostly NXT also rans but a few stick out
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Nick Khan and Vince giving no shits about NXT anymore ever since Triple H failed big time on his mission to take out AEW from ever being a potential threat to WWE.
All its going to do is add a lot more fuel to the fire of the rumors of Vince selling WWE in a few years or once the next tv contracts are signed. |
And supposedly while all this was going on, Adam Cole was invited to go backstage to Smackdown
Wonder if they’re offering him another contract while cutting a bunch of his colleagues |
SRS has been crushing this intel for a while
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They’re assholes for hoarding talent and they’re assholes when they cut them. God, wrestling fans are the stupidest people. If the WWE wanted to torch AEW to the ground, you’d have seen Daniel Bryan, AJ Styles and Rey Mysterio on NXT. They got Finn Balor and Charlotte Flair for a month. Wrestling sheet marks and their inability to use ANY critical thinking skills whatsoever. |
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No one treats him like a journalist anymore. He’s got no more credibility and has aged out of his position. He’s just a bad wrestling commentator now. And he knows it. That’s why he’s always trying to poke people for attention and announces stories AFTER they’ve happened. Christian Cage, Malakai Black, CM Punk, Andrade and Danielson weren’t just stories that weren’t broken by Dave, he’s flat-out retroactively said “I thought it was that” or “I guessed that” when he actually never said anything publicly about any of it. He’s a hack now. |
If they weren't a threat they wouldn't have been working overtime to get that Domino's story about in the media.
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If AEW were a threat, salaries wouldn’t have gone DOWN since AEW started.
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He deserves his historical respect, but his platform is very much based on what he’s given historically, and not so much on him still being the guy to ask. And I don’t value him as a critic. He’s got the position of a Roger Ebert but he seems to like Michael Bay movies. It’s odd. |
R U taking about Sapp or Meltzer
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AEW is finally starting to do what they should have done from the start. Go after stars. The best possible outcome for them is that they’ve accidentally sent in a Trojan horse by being shitty for two years. WWE hasn’t bettered itself and now AEW might get lucky off some broken promises and guys being unhappy there.
WWE may have played themselves right there. MAYBE. It’s more likely you still get a show that is poorly booked on Wednesday nights and people ask Bryan why he retired and keep asking Punk when he gets back into wrestling. WWE may go down, because they have the problem of being too big and too stretched to actually ever matter again. They generate all this content that they want to be sterile and static, but the problem there is that for them to remain in this privileged place, they have to generate content people want. No one remembers that. No, not even AEW. That’s why my big hope was that guys like Bryan, Punk, Joe and Brock would go elsewhere — to neither of these self-absorbed entities that are just going to do whatever they want to do regardless of whether or not it works. Whatever, enjoy the death of wrestling. |
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Sapp has been the only source I’ve really paid attention to for at least a year, probably longer.
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The WWE’s best course of action would be to expand to the point that there is autonomy at each branch. It gets too big for Vince. Then he retires or whatever and Raw gets booked as its own thing, and SmackDown as its own thing. They can all be unique and good in their own ways as a genre.
The annoying thing about Vince is that he’s Coca-Cola Amatil, but he only makes Coke and Diet Coke. He hasn’t done Sprite, Fanta, bottled water, etc. When he tries to branch out, it’s something entirely different. Probably because he’s slightly embarrassed to be in wrestling. AEW are this weird fizzy drink that has all these weird flavors and is this bizarre color but people want to pass it off as Pepsi because they hate Coke. |
If I were the WWE, I’d take everyone over 40 off TV and have them either work house shows, be trainers or just release them. Hope that rises all tides a bit and forces you to create new stars that have a chance to connect as prime athletes. Let AEW take in the guys you don’t really want anymore, let them become a little bigger and then watch them erode due to poor booking. Get yourself good and then hope that has increased your cultural value for when those TV deals are up.
Right now feels like a race to the bottom. Wrestling needs TV, TV doesn’t need wrestling. |
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Ever since Dusty Rhodes died and Triple H took more direct control of it, NXT had been moving very hard away of what its original purpose was meant to be in WWE. Its why there's been a rift over the past few years between Triple H & his guys and Vince & his guys over NXT being a third brand or not and why a bridge was never established between developmental and main roster to prevent the constant screwing up of call-ups. I wouldn't be surprised if NXT UK gets the purge treatment soon since its also been getting a bit fat in terms of roster size during the coronavirus pandemic. |
Other things to consider:
-WWE not granting talent releases is really obscene on the surface of it. I can’t believe they got away with it for so long. The mental health issues and just forcing people to risk their bodies for a living WHEN THEY DON’T WANT TO is just insane. I’m not saying that most of even any of the talent HAVE asked for releases, but it seems right to get rid of anyone who wants to go. People always leave that out of this discussion because “WWE bad.” -Turning over talent is a good thing for your show, your audience and talent themselves, although they often don’t look past it being a lost paycheck. It’s good for wrestling for their to be more talent out and about, and to be spreading what they know in creative ways if there isn’t a spot for them in the WWE. -We never get the full scoop on some of these people. You would think they’ve all passed physicals if they’re working, but there are personality issues at play too. -WWE doesn’t have to hire anybody or isn’t obligated to keep them employed. If they don’t want to use you in a talent-based role, that’s their prerogative. That doesn’t mean the releases are all good ideas. There are some people that could, in an ideal world, be valuable. Mercedes Martinez and Bronson Reed jump out in that list. But Bobby Fish? I’m sure he’s a great guy and all, and I’m sure he’ll be able to get work and a stable income inside or outside wrestling, but is anybody even going to care if he goes back to New Japan. He’s probably better and wiser, but come on. |
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