the moment in question was very Darth Vader at the end of Return of the Jedi when he press slams the Emperor. Despite it's sorta randomness, that fact in and of itself makes me enjoy it.

I think that character will take a backseat next season. Too much other shit going on. He'll probably have a tournament moment that is his real character redemption. I still cannot imagine Mrs. LaRusso giving him Crystal Light any time soon at the dojo.

This damn Mr. Myagi letter is ripping me to shreds right now.

I think they wanted to explore more with him. There was untapped potential to take a real deep dive--but I think there's just too much going on.

Ralph Macchio was such a good underdog babyface as a kid

He definitely knew how to fight from beneath and sell without dying.

The Bret Hart of 80s teen movies

He's honestly just a very good actor. I wonder if his association with the 80s/very early 90s prevented him from landing more roles over the past few decades.

Now that he's more seasoned, he's working pretty consistently as more of a character actor. He played a dirty cop in The Deuce (written by the same dude who created the Wire) and was great.

I think the Karate Kid series doomed him. The Outsiders was a breakthrough for a lot of its young cast. The next thing he did was Karate Kid.

Meanwhile the show continues doing a good job of making most of Cobra Kai, especially Hawk, unlikable assholes.

You forget he was also in my cousin vinnie and very good. There's a few other roles he had with much success. I'm sure Karate Kid didn't help too much--probably because he's got such a distinct appearance.

Has anyone got their ass beat on the show more than this Kyler guy?

I'm glad he's back in the limelight, getting the praise and credit he's deserved for a while. It's kinda like Michael Keaton. He's done a ton since Batman Returns, but only recently has he seemingly received the praise he deserves, and now he's coming full circle by getting to be Batman again.

Keaton Batman and Daniel-San back in our lives. What a time to be alive.

good point. he was supposed to be a good rassler, maybe decent judo. nope

"These kids have no respect for prior generations!"

beer held

under 18 karate dojo attacks house

ah shit. yeah, he just became a plot point that got out of juvey way early

thought a good storyline could have happened between him and his bully. nah

too many storylines, even with billboard ads. the show needs social media fights between the dweedbs

Just finished up. I lied about Hawk. While he's been unlikable for a while, he at least seemed to have some regret and eventually tries redeeming himself.

Robbie on the other hand, is just a big dummy. He continually acts irrationally and jumps to conclusions, making wrong decision after wrong decision and hating everyone else for it.

He's like the Wish app version of his dad. All the bad attitude and poor decision making, none of the personal growth and charm.

Loved season 3. Loved the callbacks, which they continually do really well without making it overkill. I love the big brawls they keep incorporating. The cheese factor is still great. Elizabeth Shue was used perfectly. And now season 4 is set up nicely.

I love this show so much.

If there's one thing this show gets right, it's cheesiness. Hits strong like an aged Manchego.

Remember, there's always next season. That bully might find himself in Cobra Kai.

The Hawk/Dmitri angle was probably the best, most shocking thing about season 3.

It certainly came outta nowhere as hawk seemed hell bent on being an asshole.

Also, they're just going all in on Tory being a crazy, unstable, jealous jezebel.

They make her sympathetic in a way....I think where Kreese goes, she will go. And IMO, Kreese will have his redemption.

They didn't play up her struggles too much. At least not after establishing that she was dealt a tough hand.

But I get her descent into madness more than Robbie. Robbie has people trying to help him and he just refuses and keeps being a big dummy making awful decisions.

Another thing I wanted to note is how they used Ali. She was sassy and confident and funny. I was worried that Johnny was gonna ruin what he had with Carmen by clinging to Ali. Then she gave him the whole go get your future speech and Johnny didn't do anything dumb.

My boss at work spoiled big chunks of this for my colleague just to be a dick.

Was bad.

Hmm...what's the dynamic there? Depending on the situation, I either hate or like your boss.

Johnny has killer genes and looks killer in jeans.

He wanted to hurt us but settled for collateral damage

That season 3 finale is an all time TV episode.

Unreal

Looks like Seanny and Dale get their wish.

Happy I pointed this out when Season 2 ended. Feel like a genius.

One minor complaint..



Again with that said it is done well.

I see where you're coming from but the whole point of the show is to make very black and white characters various shades of grey. Of course, Kreese is still black but now with a very minor touch of grey.

I like that we got to see where Kreese's humanity ended. It makes him that much better a villain. He was a good man. He could be again. But he chooses not to be.

Also that British Bulldog/Hart Foundation/WM3 reference was awesome. So specific too. A thing of beauty.

#WorldClassReferences

The only thing I really disliked about it was that he beat up the 2 jocks with martial arts with no training after they were making him out to be some loser.

How do you know he had no martial arts training? They never clarified that.

Whole cast is pretty attractive minus one or two people.

Samantha v pretty and adorable but I'd let Tory wreck my life

Something about Tory's face irritates me.

Same with Robbie.

Those 2 belong together with their stupid fucking annoying faces.

Robbie has 90s boy band face. I get what you mean about Tory. I think it's her facial expression. But she's hot so I'll let it pass.

Robbie immediately reminded me of Shawn Hunter from Boy Meets World.

Just watched The next Karate Kid. I wouldn’t recommend watching it, because it’s a terrible movie. Now if you do watch it pay attention to how great Hilary Swank was.

I’m not referring to her acting I’m referring to her Karate. She’s a great athlete. She rivals all the Cobra Kai kids in athleticism.

So I’m totally cool if Hilary Swank joins Cobra Kai at some point.

As am I. Are we also gonna get Jackie Chan and Jayden Smith?

That seems like the sort of question someone might ask if they wanted a good sized punch in the face.

I suppose they could be in it if they played themselves as actors in a cameo.

Actually, I suppose they could exist in the same universe. The movie wasn't terrible. Jackie Chan was great. It was just utterly superfluous and unnecessary.

That was a really dumb post

Thread needs more aggression and anger.

Cobra Kai Never Dies!

This is quite the coincidence, since you're as dumb as a post.

I am grateful for your hateful

More talk about Hilary Swank’s karate!

Swank, yes..... reboot Will Smith spawn..nope.

I'm sure they'd put Swank in it if they could.

Now I want Jayden Smith and Jackie Chan in just to piss Seanny off

That's like collapsing a building we are all inside just to get to me

I’m okay with that

I agree

That's only because you know it was a stupid question.
You have to let these things go guys.

Seanny, if I don't hold onto petty grudges, I would cease being me. Don't try and change me.

You sanctimonious bastard.

:heart:

All this time later, and I still hate Sam.

Not even in a "love to hate" way, like Kreese. Like, she's a shitty character. I still say half of the shit that happened is her fault - if not directly, then for the simple fact that all she has to do is speak up and clarify something to make things even somewhat better.

And on the off chance she *does* sack up and try to take at least some personal responsibility, the person she tries to talk to cuts her off and tells her "it's not your fault", when it absolutely was, and lets her off the hook.

So in this season, she hypes everyone up for a fight, and even starts scrapping with GUYS bigger than her... but she gets PTSD over a broad that cut her arm once enough to go hide in a corner and let her "friend" get his arm broken? The fuck out of here.

She bugs me. Bugs me a lot. Everyone else is at least charming or villainous (or both) in their own way. She's just an annoying dungheap, and still supposed to be one of the main protagonists.

She's the Cobra Kai Sakura.


On the flip side: Allie.

I'm glad they didn't go where it looked like it was going to go. Instead, they had her come in and become the special guest referee and the voice of reason. That was amazing.

Sam is very much a spoiled privileged little girl

I like her. She fucked up a couple of times but seems to deal with the brunt of the consequences. Like...being a bit of a dummy sometimes doesn't warrant someone attempting to murder you like Tory seems intent on doing.

I like pretty much all the characters though. At first, I thought I'd be a bit turned off by Kreese--as though he didn't fit the mold of the show. But then he was awesome and I regretted ever thinking that.

Sam is an angel who has done no wrong.

Listen to your heart.

Also in Frasier, the Crane Brothers’ bullies were the Kreasels - and I wonder if that “Kreese” sound has any literary connection with violence. Or maybe it’s the harsh consonant sound of the k combined with rhyming with grease (to suggest he is a greaseball).

Since I’m easily influenced and Sam is adorable, I now agree with you. She has not stepped a foot out of place, even when smashing into Johnny’s ride.

I bet her nipples are the pinkest of pinks

My god I can only wish

/horny

Dis thread got thirsty.

Like strawberry Quick

There's a difference between dealing with consequences and just internalizing them and hoping everything just gets better around her by osmosis. She does a lot of the latter throughout the entire show run. I was actively rooting for Tory to cut her again. "Cut that bitch!" People should not want to root against a main protagonist. But I did. And I don't regret it. I want Tory to seriously injure Sam before she goes through some sort of redemption arc. Fuck Sam all the way up while she's full on heel!

I don't care how many of you here think she's jackoff material... I just think she is a jackoff, and that's not hot.

Calm down dude

Tory belongs in juvie

She belongs in prison with Pam Grier bopping those wabbos around

Moon > Sam

But Moon is too heavenly to be ruckussing fools with karate. Thus, she can't be a major talking point either on the show or in this thread.

Yeah she's one of those OTT attractive people that occupy the same space as us but cannot be gotten close to by anyone less than stunningly beautiful.

I hate them all

Started watching the third season today. Just yikes...

It is very erotically charged

Really? There’s something wrong with me then...

There's no fucking way the fight in the last episode would take place in a real suburb. The suspension of disbelief in this series is incredibly high.

The ending was kinda nice except for that godawful cover of "In the Air Tonight."

wtf @ this thread :lol:

Not sure if you're being "cheeky Dave Osborne" but the whole enjoyment factor of the show is that it's completely fucking preposterous.

A bit of both. There are moments where I get taken out of the action but it's not necessarily a bad thing.

"This show about warring Karate Dojos in the Valley isn't realistic enough for me"

What I'm trying to convey is that sometimes the show goes overboard and it takes me out of it...like I have to take a moment to acknowledge how bonkers this show is. Not saying that it's a bad thing. They're obviously aware of what they're presenting. But Hawk just walking into LaRusso's house like a fucking chode, instigating the big fight, and doing a fucking face turn was hella goofy. My comment was a knee jerk reaction to how insane the sequence was. I'm pretty sure I've had similar reactions to other moments in the series as well.

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How about Daniel becoming best friends with the man who once tried to kill him after learning how to paralyze people with top-secret Myadi do?

Oh, that made complete sense. People change...man.

Johnny is hands down my favorite character of the series. Second to none. Don't feel so strongly about any other character in the series. Except for Kumiko...

Johnny and Miguel are the heart. Johnny shines with Mig playing his straight man. Guru slowly losing respect in this thread.

I actually said the same thing to my wife when they broke into the house. Was a tad bit excessive. Not enough to ruin the episode or anything. Just a little to silly for me.

I find it interesting that after all that’s happened it was that moment that got people. The thing that made me lol the most was Miguel not being paralyzed in 3 episodes and then somehow being able to whoop Kyler after getting the shit kicked out of him.

Or how about Kreese trying to murder both Daniel and Johnny only to then be like “I guess we solve this the old fashioned way.... a tournament in the valley.”