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<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HappyHalloween?src=hash">#HappyHalloween</a> from <a href="https://twitter.com/JohnCena">@JohnCena</a> and Nikki! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UCantSeeMe?src=hash">#UCantSeeMe</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TotalBellas?src=hash">#TotalBellas</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raw?src=hash">#Raw</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/e_entertainment">@E_Entertainment</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/Total_Bellas">@Total_Bellas</a> <a href="https://t.co/0NwW0dk58v">pic.twitter.com/0NwW0dk58v</a></p>— Nikki & Brie (@BellaTwins) <a href="https://twitter.com/BellaTwins/status/793112803972296706">October 31, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Cena pulls that off better than he's supposed to... lol
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I love how people buy into the narrative that the match order changed so many times. It's amazing how many times you people get sucked into the same con.
Week 1: "WWE going to put girls on last", read more in this week's issue Week 2: "Foley let the cat out of the bag, WWE changing plans as result", read more in this week's issue Week 3: "WWE changes plan, Universal Title match likely to go on last", read more in this week's issue. Week 4: "WWE changed plans at THE LAST MINUTE, and put the girls on last", read more in this issue. Funny how it all ends up back where we started which was the girls were always going on last. If you read my post on here, I talked about how it was planned to tie into breast cancer month, and they want to put the girls on equal footing to the men for a variety of reasons, including drawing in a larger female fanbase based on the success of Ronda in UFC and general push to equality for women in sports. But leave that logic to the side, and go with the fake reporters who claim to have inside sources but yet NEVER have a quote from an actual named employee that would be privy to the information they are spewing garbage about. It's amazing how easily ya'll are manipulated. |
I think they could have gotten more mileage out of it if they promoted it as the main event, give it 2-3 weeks build, SportsCenter/Today Show/etc.
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What trap? Is someone talking?
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But yeah with the tie in with Sportscenter, they could have tried some additional cross promotion. I still think it accomplished what they wanted. They made history and the girl with the brighter long term future went over. So when you look back at that match in 20 years it will be like if you had the choice between Cena going over a historical match or Daniel Bryan. Both great competitors, both over like rover, but one guy was a flash in the pan. |
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Happy Halloween, TP dubbers.
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Fan is the MVP round here.
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According to PWI, Austin Aries could be out till March 2017 due to his recent eye injury.
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That's a shame for Aries, but I couldn't see him doing much anyway. I hope the time away allows him to return to the scene in a bigger way for himself.
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I'm about to listen to Lance Storm's new podcast. I'm intrigued to hear how it will go.
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Hmm, already very interesting. Storm talks about his time in the WWE, and how that when he arrived he was actually asked to tone down his promos, because one of the writers got it into his head that Lance Storm should be a Sam the Eagle type character from The Muppets. Storm -- who considers himself to be a straight-laced but more effective promo than a lot of people here would give him credit for -- kept trying to add more to them, but they would tell him to dial it down, then he'd get buried at production meetings.
It makes you wonder, but if Lance Storm could talk better than he was allegedly allowed to, it makes me wonder if the ceiling could have been slightly higher on him. Maybe not as a full-time main event guy, but as an opponent in certain regions or someone who could have laid the foundations to be in that same sort of conversation with Chris Benoit and Chris Jericho as guys who should have been elevated at certain times. |
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It's fun thinking about wrestling, but then it grows really tedious trying to use logic and reason with a brick wall.
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While he is out recovering with his eye injury, Aries should become a heel manager trying to lead guys against Nakamura. Strong taking up for his fallen comrade could be fun.
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If James Ellsworth is going to be in the WWE, I want him to join The Wyatt Family. Why do all Bray's men need to be big guys? Ellsworth can be Bray's sponge for punishment.
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I think this would be a better Survivor Series card than the one we will be getting:
* Brock Lesnar vs. Goldberg * AJ Styles (c) vs. Dean Ambrose for the WWE World Championship * Kevin Owens (c) vs. Seth Rollins vs. Chris Jericho in a Triple Threat for the Universal Championship * Becky Lynch (c) vs. Natalya with Bret Hart as Special Guest Referee for the Women's Championship * Jack Swagger gives an "American Open Challenge" (answered by Cesaro) * Braun Strowman vs. Sami Zayn * Brian Kendrick (c) vs. TJ Perkins for the Cruiserweight Championship * Dolph Ziggler, Heath Slater, Rhyno & The Hype Bros vs. The Miz, The Usos, Kenny & Mikey in an Elimination Match * The New Day, Enzo & Cass vs. Sheamus, Gallows, Anderson & The Shining Stars in an Elimination Match (Cesaro is forced to sit out by the heels who are one man over) |
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Lance Storm and Cyrus' podcast was pretty good. They told some interesting stories about their time working the independents and ECW in the past. Hearing Lance Storm talk about booking is always refreshing, because he often backs up my views. Cyrus said what I feel about the women lately. Lance Storm admitted he has a bias since he knows the girls quite close personally, but tried to deflect a lot of the blame of the disappointment around their Cell match onto the booking, but didn't really protest when Cyrus pointed out they weren't good enough to work around the bad booking.
Cyrus likes the Hardy stuff though, so I don't know if that makes his opinion irrelevant to me. |
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Austin said he was a big fan of the cell match. Lots of conflicting reports. I didn't see it probably won't watch it.
Charlotte and Sascha are hit and miss. I think if they stay within themselves and keep it simple they can have legit 4 star matches if not better, but they try to do too much in the name of building women's wrestling (which I totally get) and they tend to slip on lots of banana peels along the way. |
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Storm had a beautiful drop kick and hair cut. A man's man
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That rolling single leg crab was a thing of beautu.
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ha, written by dennis hopeless. love this guy's name.
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I also think the mixed messages they are sending with equality does subconsciously have an effect on how they are perceived too. On one hand, they are supposed to be as good as the men, but on the other they make a big deal about how they are as good as the men. I compared it to calling a female comedian a "female comedian" in another thread. From what I've heard, they did a really contrived false injury spot for Sasha prior to actually getting in the cell. This sort of booking isn't exclusive to the women, but it's melodrama to the point of pantomime. Cesaro and Sheamus went 0-3, 3-3, tie. It's very clunky and fans can see the strings -- and that is when they revolt. Sasha getting up off the stretcher exposed the really broad strokes of what they were trying to achieve. The company couldn't have screamed any louder "We are trying to manipulate you!" That's the sort of thing that people still hold against pro-wrestling when they stupidly point out to people "you know it's fake, right?" They're also trying to get the women to wrestle men's matches. No, I'm not saying that the HIAC is a male gimmick, but they are getting Sasha to fight off paramedics and trainers like she was Steve Austin. She's a cruiserweight playing heavyweight. Let her wrestle like Sasha Banks -- there is an organic style she can work that will connect with people. This match sounds like an overproduced mess, and people want to be kind about it because they think they're being nice, but it's actually condescending to the abilities of the performers. |
Wait a second.... you didn't even see the cell match and you DERIDED Charlotte's work in the match and now saying all this other stuff.......
Man...... You used to be cool...... |
No, I'm critiquing the work I've seen from her since she's been main roster. I'm responding to the feedback from the cell, which wasn't promoted in a way that made me really want to see it. I was interested in the match in general, but that was my own notions of what the girls could do going in, and not what the company built around them. It can't be that alien a concept to people to hear a song of an artist and decide you don't want to buy the album, or you see a trailer for a movie and think "Eh, I don't really want to see that." I'm sorry if it sounded like I was actually critiquing Charlotte's specific performance in the match. I am responding to her promo on RAW and the reviews her HIAC performance with Sasha has gotten (mixed, which is a shame, since their work was almost universally lauded in NXT).
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I quit TPWW forever.
Can't deal with the negative vibes. Good day, sirs. |
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Honestly, I love you, LJ, but how dare anyone have an opinion on wrestling on a wrestling forum, right?
"Oh, but it's negative." Well, maybe the product should try being better sometime. |
MAYBE YR. FACE SHOULD BE BETTER
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But seriously, you've got me thinking about wrestling criticism, which I appreciate. Lately I've been more interesting in responses to the business than the actual product. I might start a thread discussing what is an appropriate objective opinion, if there is one when it comes to such subjective matter, and what is unfounded speculation. At what point can you be assured that Baron Corbin is boring, etc.
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So they are filming American grit right next to my house. John Cena is here obviously....and everyone in town is going nucking futs over it for no reason. Sheer insanity. Apparently he is staying a few houses down from my parents while they are here for filming. Wonder if my dad is acting like a tard too. Uhg.
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Surprised he doesn't have Triple A.
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I'd like to see James Ellsworth run a heel stable of hosses who beat people up so he can get the victory.
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I want to see him and Braun become a Master Blaster combo
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Emma wins the thread.
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So WWE is giving you what you asked for! MORE MORE MORE!
A new cruiserweight show called 205 Live will be on wwe network right after Talking Smack. MORE IS MORE! MORE MORE MORE |
The Network is going to thrive on content, but at some point you have to wonder when the WWE becomes like a needy partner texting too much.
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The beauty of The Network is that you can create these events that are unique, but in itself dont need to draw as a standalone show. The reasoning for scaling back on the Survivor Series matches in the past was that the event was always the weakest of the "big 4". But now you can make this is a special show, and dont have to worry about how many buys it gets. I'm looking forward to seeing some of these guys interact, even though they've only been separated for a few months. Next year when the Series rolls around, it will be even more special. On top of that it prolongs some of these other programs. We already know the main event for the next PPV, which is the right place to blowoff that program. |
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Heath Slater is tremendous.
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Does anyone know how long WWE appearances usually are?
I've just found out that Ziggler will be making an appearance in Glasgow before SmackDown next week and I'm curious if I'll be able to make it or not. |
YOU GOT THREE MINUTES, AND HE'S OUTTA THERE
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just got the FIRST <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@wwe</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/lootcrate">@lootcrate</a>! Awesome but Mitch doesn't have any seeds. Also got a <a href="https://twitter.com/ShinsukeN">@ShinsukeN</a> poster but too much stuff to photograph. <a href="https://t.co/eVdT7MizRM">pic.twitter.com/eVdT7MizRM</a></p>— Ryan Damon (@rdamon1982) <a href="https://twitter.com/rdamon1982/status/794013661048094720">November 3, 2016</a></blockquote>
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You could've just zoomed out...
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So take the pic somewhere else...
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He can take the pic however he wants.
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Instead of doing all these SS Elimination Matches at the PPV, I'd be more interested if they did a champion vs. champion series. The titles are already fairly devalued, you can use it to splinter off new programs for the guys and gals.
* AJ Styles (c) vs. Dean Ambrose for the WWE Title * Brock vs. Goldberg * Owens, Jericho, Rusev, Sheamus & Strowman vs. Rollins, Zayn, Cesaro, Enzo & Cass * Orton vs. Harper * Charlotte vs. Becky * New Day vs. Slater & Rhyno * Reigns vs. Ziggler * The Miz vs. TBA in a match arranged by Daniel Bryan to give Miz an opportunity to prove he can be a warrior -- opponent revealed to be Lance Storm * Kendrick vs. Tyson Dux for the Cruiserweight Title(because they're in Canada) * Sasha, Bayley, Dana, Nia & Alicia vs. Nikki, Nattie, Naomi, Alexa & Carmella in the one interpromotional SS match |
Side Kendrick note: His gimmick is obviously not the same as it was in 2008, but would anyone be opposed to seeing Ezekiel Jackson back in the corner of Kendrick? I mean, the guy was never going to be what they envisioned him to be. He's way too clunky for today's era. But as the "difference maker" in Kendrick's corner, I thought he brought a lot of realism to the shtick.
I guess they could basically put anyone in the role of Kendrick's lackey, but Big Zeke would just be that through-line from the classic Kendrick days. |
If we do get AJ Styles vs. Shawn Michaels at the Alamo Dome (and I do hope we do), then is it possible that we could see HBK the part-time attraction? If he's working the Rumble, why not WrestleMania? Brock vs. HBK is a dream match that I couldn't miss for anything in the world. I don't know how you get there exactly, but you could get there. HBK never got payback for that arm being broken.
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With Raw and SmackDown being in Scotland for the first time next week, what says "We're coming to Scotland!" more than Photoshopped images of terrible kilts on wrestlers?
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I do sometimes wonder what purpose WWE.com serves these days.
I very rarely visit the site and when I do, there's just really pointless stuff on it like those kilt photos for example. The WWE app is pretty much the same. Really pointless. |
I think it is very sexist and transphobic of you to assume that just because of Nikki Bella's appearance you consider her a woman. Have you asked what her gender is?
Also, I hate WWE.com as well, they made it look like absolute garbage since they tried to make it more mobile friendly. |
Let's keep calm here, my finger is not on the trigger. Nobody needs to get DELETED today... put the post down everyone.
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I think Alexa should be Becky for the belt.
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