Looks like about 650,000 viewers

That's how many people were in the Pontiac Silverdome when Hogan slammed Andre

We should start a pool. I've got 719k

And there are like six people left who like this shit and push it over 3 pages some weeks.

Fight for the Fallen has two comedy matches that are going to be treated like serious affairs and go multiple segments. Mox and Cage probably has some appeal to the hardcore fan, but they’ll whittle that audience down by the time it gets there. I’ve never seen such bad booking of a “major” promotion. Not even Vince Russo fucks shit up this much. At least they sat at 1.1 for their entire existence.

As long as they get 150k 48 year olds, that’s the real battle.

To be fair, there is only like 12 of us who post here at all lol

Lol, Meltzer rated three matches from this week above 4 stars. I did an average on match quality and that puts this week's episode of television above WrestleMania III, WrestleMania 17 and SummerSlam 2002.

Touched a nerve with Noid apparently. All I wanted was to know what point you were making so you can’t just backtrack on it again... seems fair to me.

So you agree Kahlis gimmick was tall Indian man? Name a worse faction... now or in history coz Frankly I would watch dark order over whatever the fuck that train wreck with Garza is on Raw. I’m sure there’s plenty more in history but keep the hyperbole flowing I guess.

Emotionally attached.

Yeah forum numbers are right in line with wrestling ratings and to get fair I’m sure it’s more than just me that only log in to watch the train wreck, much like wrestling nowadays :)

Yes, because detached people make threads devoted to other posters.

Sane people spend a significant amount of time talking about a tv show other people enjoy that they don't.

Yeah, who has ever heard of criticism? Especially on a wrestling forum. The next time you complain about Raw or SmackDown, I'll be sure to remind you of what a hypocrite you're being.

You are not critical lol.

What do you hope to accomplish letting everyone know you dislike a product they enjoy ad naseum?

Yes I am. I'm constantly explaining why what they are doing is ineffective. And I'm usually right. Then I get called a cocksucker and have dishonest worms like you edit my posts. None of that is going to save AEW from itself.

Why are you talking about AEW so much if you dislike it?

You don't even watch the weekly shows and made it a point to watch AEW this week for the purpose of posting about disliking it. Do you not get how weird that is? What's the point, why waste the energy attacking something people overall here seem to enjoy?

Because I'm obsessed with wrestling and want to see the industry get better overall. I watched the show this week and gave my honest opinions. Why is it okay for, say, Smeat to post his thoughts about SmackDown, but I can't do so about Dynamite? Is it because the truth stings?

People have come to these forums talking about how shit the general product is for about twenty fucking years now (since it really started going to shit). It's now a problem? It's now "weird?" You're just insecure about your opinions.

I do get enjoyment seeing people get frazzled by negative comments about AEW. Some of the excuses that fall out of the tree are absolutely amazing. But I think criticism of this sort of thing is important, especially if people want something other than a Vince McMahon monopoly.

700k viewers on Wednesday night with a bad parody of sports entertainment is not going to make Vince McMahon change direction. He just announced an Eye for an Eye Match. He's more assured than ever he's got an untouchable slice of the industry, and you know what? He's fucking right. These guys have proven Vince McMahon right. If there's something a hardcore wrestling fan should hate, it's that.

And, by the way, I don't attack it because people enjoy it -- I attack it because it's bad. Enjoy whatever the fuck you want. At least grow some fucking balls about it and stop whinging that not everybody is going to pretend it's ace for you.

LOL

99% of your posts are about how much you dislike AEW, if not more than that. That's not healthy interweb posting. You don't rile anyone here up, it comes across as weird and toxic and sad. You obviously are not going to change the minds of people here who enjoy what they are watching...so why keep posting? Find a better use of energy and time, life is short.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This ones rough. I visited little Gabriel back in Dec and it was the most I was ever effected by doing so. I was fully optimistic hev would pull through, but just got news today that he passed. I'm heartbroken and devastated for his family. If anyone could donate to help <a href="https://t.co/zmNu1mrMWA">pic.twitter.com/zmNu1mrMWA</a></p>&mdash; Brian Cage (@MrGMSI_BCage) <a href="https://twitter.com/MrGMSI_BCage/status/1281778837345325056?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Remember when Taz was FTW champion? Choking out mother fuckers like a beast, suplexing the fuck out of bitches, and visiting all those sick children?

lol fuck off

So we’re past the whole worst faction thing now you realise how stupid your comment was, that’s cool. Growth is good.

I never said I was detached, I said you were emotionally attached hence the second thread.

Take a deep breath before you read man.

How dare Cage not live the gimmick. Should have gone to the hospital and finished the kid off with the FTW belt himself!

You can totally visit the sick kid in the hospital. Just don't post pictures of it on twitter mere days after you declared your self the baddest mother fucker in the industry and were given a title called the Fuck the World Championship.

More like the Fuck the World Except for this One Kid in the Hospital Who is Fighting so Hard and OMG he's so Brave You Guys Championship.

Did you read the tweet? The kid died, he visited him in December.

Have Cody or Adam Page make a tweet asking for donations. Shit you'd probably get more. This doesn't have to be this hard.

This all just comes back to what I was saying earlier about the whole FTW title return being a mistake.

Gonna have to agree with Fignuts on this.

Believe in what you're doing as a wrestler. Don't make it clear to fans you see it as you cosplaying a character.

Christ, even the Trailer Park Boys stayed in character for public appearances. You knew the show wasn't real, but it always made you go "I wonder if these guys are like that in real life" to some degree. Those little touches go a long way.

He probably would have survived if he were visited by a WWE star instead

Hahahahahahahahaha

What's worse than being an "AWFUL Vince McMahon parody"? Being an "AWFUL Vince McMahon parody" of a "tall Indian man". See Khali.

No, we’re not past it. The Dark Order is probably the worst faction in history. They’re fucking atrocious, never been over for a day, and have been pushed as a main event entity.

You’re trying to do the cool antagonizing kid waving the fingers, but it doesn’t work when you went out of your way to create a thread obsessing about me.

There’s almost ZERO useful discussion here outside of what Gertner posts. Don’t tell me what is healthy. Let me enjoy what I enjoy ;). I riled Sting Fan up enough that he made a thread about me. I riled you up enough to edit one of my posts. Methinks the lady doth protest too much. I enjoy talking about wrestling, and I’ll do it how I want without caving to your groupthink.

They’ve only got a few good teams. This tag roster would barely be deeper than SmackDown’s.

You’re drunk.

If Khali showed up on AEW Dark they might actually crack 1 million views. He’s the raging shits, but his gimmick isn’t worse than the cult leader in pyjamas. More over too.

AEW should hire Colin Kaepernick and have him kneel during his own intro every single time.
Then the white guys drag him away and he never gets to wrestle.
The world is ready and they need hot ratings.

It would be gross if Vince did it but AEW are a cutting edge new company with no history of antagonistic gimmickry...

Anyhoo...

I would love if Colin appeared in AEW

He and MJF/Wardlow could get into a fight

AEW needs to do a crossover w/ Shaq too when rona ends...

Shaq/Luchasaurus vs MJF/Wardlow

special guest ref: Colin Kaepernick

Wish Christopher Jericho was still AEW Champ...Mox is really boring as champ

John "Works On The Docksley Because He Likes Big Cocksley" Moxley

If I had Admin powers I would rename this forum tpAEWw forums

It's almost like he is being held back by creative, but once he gets that creative freedom, look out cause it's gonna be a paradigm shift!

Oh wait, that was his excuse last year. Maybe he just isn't as good as he thinks he is.

I think Mox has been held back by Coronavirus. He's a guy that benefits from having a crowd.

He's been fine as champ. His promos have been good. His matches sans the clunker with Hager have been good. He's been presented as legit. And the Cage feud has been interesting thanks to Taz.

The problem has been that there's no ready made main event heels for him to feud with. A Pac feud would've been fun but the virus killed and chance at that.

That would be an excellent gimmick. Misunderstood gay stevedore who adores a man named Steve and becomes a wrestling champion to impress him since he's only impressed by manly feats of strength since he's such a big dock worker with a big dong.

There's a reason he got upstaged by AJ Styles.

It's a fair point, his frantic style goes better with a frenzied crowd, but that is only applicable to his matches. His character and promos though have been pretty lackluster for a while now. He is certainly nowhere near the level Jericho was as champ.

I wonder how many White Claws it takes for Tony Khan to get "white girl wasted"

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is terrible. And you’re not worth the signal boost. <br><br>But I’ll make this clear to fans worldwide.<br><br>If you have a problem with a gay man receiving a title shot, you can kiss my ass. <br><br>I’m proud to share the ring with Sonny. <a href="https://t.co/ZNkTZ29rRb">https://t.co/ZNkTZ29rRb</a></p>&mdash; Cody (@CodyRhodes) <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes/status/1282452665608417281?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Cody doing some Twitter posturing.

Hey mate you're not worth the energy or the free press.

Well actually...

One and a half

:lol::lol::lol: that's what I was thinking.

Probably drinks half of one before every song that's playing is "like totally his song."

I don't think anyone has a problem with Sonny Kiss getting a title shot because he's gay. I think people have a problem with Sonny getting a title shot because he sucks. And when I say sucks, I don't mean...

Other than the person who tweeted to Cody that Sonny was a low-class f****t.

Sonny Kiss should win the title by spitting a mouthful of cum into the champ's eyes.

The Cream Mist

If your cream is green, you’re in the green.

If your cream is red...consult a doctor.

Tony Khan turns heel with Kiss and reveals that the cum Sonny Kiss spat in Cody’s eyes came from PHARAOH who Tony wanked off at the local Cracker Barrel.

“That damn jezebel!” - JR

Tony changes his name to Tonny Wank to be Sonny Kiss’s manager.

I think we're best friends now

They should hire Impact era Orlando Jordan

This is great, put this on TV


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I was not expecting this to be the direction for the Dark Order, but DAMN they’ve got some legendary comedy chops. They’re the highlight of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BTE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BTE</a> right now! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/JoinDarkOrder?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#JoinDarkOrder</a> <a href="https://t.co/eGvEy1LsI1">pic.twitter.com/eGvEy1LsI1</a></p>&mdash; KeepUpWithKayfabe (@KeepUpWithKFabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeepUpWithKFabe/status/1282716126657609728?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

WHO THE FUCK IS GRIFF GARRISON?!?!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Yes! Put this on TV

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Stay tuned for video... <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWrestling?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AEWrestling</a> <a href="https://t.co/ANSDHd6rAv">https://t.co/ANSDHd6rAv</a> <a href="https://t.co/kedQJOIUe7">pic.twitter.com/kedQJOIUe7</a></p>&mdash; Conrad the Mortgage Guy (@HeyHeyItsConrad) <a href="https://twitter.com/HeyHeyItsConrad/status/1282836673999634433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 14, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That was fucking shit.

Progressive and inclusive stuff.

Lol, AEW getting into bed with Eric Bischoff. 2010 TNA says hi.

Jacksonville Dixie

Couldn’t even get CM Punk to take a vanity deal with them even though he’s got a grudge with WWE and they were running Chicago almost every month. Punk mocks them on Twitter and Tony “Pupper Shtupper” Khan’s retort is “Hey! Remember when you were relevant in 2006?” Meanwhile his biggest star is Chris Jericho, who was getting noticed on Nitro in 1998 and had his best year in 2008.

Hahaha that is kickass. I’m all for this.

Why the fuck isn't this on tv? Jesus that was great.

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Future AEW champion: Hulk Hogan

Tony talks for 5 minutes straight at the start with Bischoff and Conrad forced to just listen lol.

I miss Conrad on AEW.

God Tony is so awk.

Okay new rule, Cody does all the boss interviews.

Will chime in and say that Dark Order clip was not great. Maybe could have been an "ok" comedy bit without the profanity. But aren't they supposed to be serious?

The closest they came to looking serious was when Brodie debuted on their first empty arena show after the pandemic.

But then most of the stable was lost to the pandemic. Uno and Grayson who had been the focal part of the stable until that point had to go back to Canada. Plus for that set of taping at QT Marshall's gym all of their New York based talent were unavailable, so they didn't even have Silver and Reynolds despite them being the patsies of the group.

It was just Brodie on his own, recruiting guys like Preston Vance and Allen Angels who were just there to help fill out Dark tapings. And that's when they started changing the direction of the group.

I think you could have Brodie/Uno/Grayson massacre the rest of the stable should they ever decide to turn it serious again but I really enjoy the idea of a cult managing to only recruit complete nincompoops.

Also can't really imagine somebody still finding profanity to be taboo or offputting in 2020 but hey, to each their own.

Not taboo or offputting "per se", just don't like it when profanity is used in a "hey look we're cool and funny, we swear" kinda way.....

I've especially always hated profanity in rassling specifically though..... like "I can't get over on my own charisma or words, but if I say some cusses people will lose their minds over it!"

Part of why I could never get into ECW.....

I.E Shane Douglas

Lock Jaw's hatred of Rob Van Dam makes even more sense now

*point* whole
*point* fucking
*point* show

Dude loves comics, gets the ladies and is a secret ninja. He's living the life Lock Jaw wants, and could have, but lacks the grapefuits to grasp the brass rings.

RVD is nearly 50 and is in a "throuple" with his wife and their girlfriend, both of whom are 15+ years younger than him.

Not a bad gig if you can get it.

What was funny about the Dark Order clip? That they confused Griff Garrison for Jungle Boy?

He's also a strange dude.

I agree with Noid about that AEW clip being not nearly as incredible as it’s being made out to be. Brodie still has SOMETHING useful in him as a character though. I don’t think his voice not being intimidating completely eliminates his potential.

Call me “strange” if I’m in my 50s and banging two chicks in their 30s who are down for it all. WON’T GAF!

Yes lol, Jungle Man. Who hasn't seen Griff Garrison and thought "HOW IS HE NOT CALLED JUNGLE MAN?".

RVD is really damaged by his divorce. That's why he's acting the way he is.

Why would you even have this guy on the roster if he’s so visually akin to one of your alleged stars?

Where is Abaddon and Anna Jay??

Ivellise (sp?) announced for Dynamite next week...she definitely has one of those pasts that would make you think AEW/WWE would want to avoid her....

Don't ask questions. AEW knows what they're doing, okay?

Not sure on Abaddon but Anna Jay got put under quarantine as part of AEW's precautions from QT Marshall being in contact with someone who had the coronavirus.

Everyone associated with his wrestling school got put under quarantine as a result.

Might be why several new non-associated talent started showing up in recent weeks as fill ins.

who is running their social media


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">When <a href="https://twitter.com/CodyRhodes?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@CodyRhodes</a> almost got hit with his own move �� <a href="https://t.co/fG7d2dzNni">pic.twitter.com/fG7d2dzNni</a></p>&mdash; All Elite Wrestling on TNT (@AEWonTNT) <a href="https://twitter.com/AEWonTNT/status/1284533392986435586?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 18, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's not how you hug a tranny, here let me show you!

Thats exactly how Tambor lost his gig

Sonny Kiss is the drizzling shits.

That nerd Tony Khan said in an interview with Bully Ray that he got the idea for setting up his arena from South Park :rofl: