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mike adamle 09-19-2016 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4861663)
How do you know? Sullivan has hinted on his podcast that he's been interacting backstage with a lot of the guys. It could just be him and MSL putting him over, but the shaving of the hair thing is very Sullivan-esque.

I didn't know that about Kevin Kelly. Thanks for sharing that. It's a shame you ruin it by completely not understanding what I was saying about Ivory. If English is not your first language, I apologize.



I don't know, honestly. But you do realize that wrestlers used to book wrestling, right? I picked her out because I was thinking of women that are knowledgeable about the business and have ring experience because I'd like to see a woman in charge. Ivory once out-worked Triple H in wrestler's court. She's always come off as a woman who knows what she is doing and has been able to take her ego out of things -- see how she did her best to put Chyna over -- and because of how she has spoken about Triple H in the past, I don't think she's at risk of jumping ship the moment she gets any traction (if that did happen).

....Calm down. First off, Adam Cole also shaved Michael Elgin's head a year or two ago. Was that also Kevin Sullivan's doing? Just trying to inform you instead of you making baseless comments like Kevin Sullivan being responsible for Adam Cole shaving Jay Lethal's head.

What didn't I understand about you saying "Ivory immediatley comes to mind as a woman who should be given a chance to run the creative team of ROH."? I do get that plenty of former wrestlers are given backstage roles as agents and some are thrown in creative. Almost all of those wrestlers have been continually in the business as well. Michael Hayes has almost never had a break. Dutch Mantell who you always praise hasn't really had a break. Joey Mercury hasn't really ever had a break. Ivory hasn't been a part of the wrestling business since 2006, and that was a small tour, before that was basically 2003. Talk about making no sense.

She out worked Triple H in wrestler's court. Okay. So what? Everyone always looks at that as the most lame, childish stuff that no one takes seriously.

And come on. She did her best to put over Chyna, former member of the biggest stable in WWE history, DX, and the first female Intercontinental Champion, who was put over by Chris Jericho, and I could be wrong on the timeline here but I think she was either in the middle of or already had her Latino Heat angle with Eddie Guerrero... she needed Ivory to make her look good?

And her talking shit about Triple H is just the reason to keep her away. If she's gonna burn her bridge and reveal drama with the biggest bridge you can have, what kinda dirt is she gonna reveal from your camp?

Emperor Smeat 09-19-2016 04:00 PM

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Droford 09-19-2016 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4862076)
A part of me wants to find that exact photo on the internet somewhere, print it, put it in a frame similar to that one and then hang it on my wall.

As close as I could find

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Emperor Smeat 09-19-2016 10:01 PM

Prince Puma/Ricochet recently teased on Twitter he has something special set for 2017 and it doesn't involve going to the WWE, NXT, ROH, or TNA.

Being rumored he either signed a new deal with Lucha Underground or gotten a full-time contract with NJPW. If he signed a new deal with LU, might be using the Ricochet name for future seasons.

For some reference, he is still tied to LU till the end of Season 3 (mid-2017) due to how his LU contract was structured in terms of promotions with tv shows at least in the US and maybe Mexico.

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Mr. Nerfect 09-19-2016 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 4862112)
Yeah I can see it now. If Noid were Vince then he'd have the head of creative, Ivory, come to Kevin and sit down with him. "Now Kevin, I know you are in the prime of your career and your entire life goal was to wrestle for the WWE, but we think it's time you hang up the boots. Now as you know, I've been pushing for Epico to main event, but he's just lacking that one thing. And that one thing is you. Instead of you main eventing these next few years as a wrestler, you're going to main event managing Epico!!!"

I'm sure Kevin would love that... :wtf::wtf::wtf::roll::roll::roll:

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Mr. Nerfect 09-19-2016 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 4862149)
....Calm down. First off, Adam Cole also shaved Michael Elgin's head a year or two ago. Was that also Kevin Sullivan's doing? Just trying to inform you instead of you making baseless comments like Kevin Sullivan being responsible for Adam Cole shaving Jay Lethal's head.

What didn't I understand about you saying "Ivory immediatley comes to mind as a woman who should be given a chance to run the creative team of ROH."? I do get that plenty of former wrestlers are given backstage roles as agents and some are thrown in creative. Almost all of those wrestlers have been continually in the business as well. Michael Hayes has almost never had a break. Dutch Mantell who you always praise hasn't really had a break. Joey Mercury hasn't really ever had a break. Ivory hasn't been a part of the wrestling business since 2006, and that was a small tour, before that was basically 2003. Talk about making no sense.

She out worked Triple H in wrestler's court. Okay. So what? Everyone always looks at that as the most lame, childish stuff that no one takes seriously.

And come on. She did her best to put over Chyna, former member of the biggest stable in WWE history, DX, and the first female Intercontinental Champion, who was put over by Chris Jericho, and I could be wrong on the timeline here but I think she was either in the middle of or already had her Latino Heat angle with Eddie Guerrero... she needed Ivory to make her look good?

And her talking shit about Triple H is just the reason to keep her away. If she's gonna burn her bridge and reveal drama with the biggest bridge you can have, what kinda dirt is she gonna reveal from your camp?

Wasn't aware of that angle. Cool. I didn't say that he was, I suggested that he might have some creative input because he's there, and I'd like to see his brain picked, because ROH could use something different. It could have been Delirious or the dude that decides the price of popcorn for all I know. Maybe it is you that ought to calm down a bit?

You've misquoted me dramatically. I said I'd be interested in seeing a woman given the chance to book something close to being a major North American promotion -- and no, I don't consider Stephanie McMahon a "booker." Ivory came to mind because you're not going to get fucking Trish Stratus to do that, are you?

Maybe having a break is a good thing sometimes? The wrestler's court point was just a point about her being a quick-witted and intelligent woman. It doesn't mean she could book, but there's more clues to indicate she could contribute than, say, Christy Hemme *coughloltna*.

The Chyna point went way over your head. I wasn't saying that Chyna was only over because of Ivory. I was observing that Ivory knew -- or at least went along with the plan -- to get squashed despite being a better overall wrestler than Chyna. She knew the story to tell. People actually thought she was a no mark because she got destroyed by Chyna so well -- you yourself admitted to that earlier. Brilliant work on her behalf.

You can choose to see her comments on Triple H as destructive, but I appreciate she doesn't kiss ass looking for a job back and tells it like it is.

Mr. Nerfect 09-19-2016 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4862140)
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Maybe in 10 years after he's lost a step or two in the ring but the guy is to talented to take out of the ring. WWE does need more managers that were former wrestlers though. JBL would be make good one I think.

JBL would make a tremendous manager. He's kind of staled on commentary, so I'd like to see him start his own little group. He'd be wonderful as the money behind The Revival.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 08:35 AM

What does everybody think of Mojo Rawley? I was never high on the guy, and I absolutely hate his current gimmick and pairing with Zack Ryder, but I think there's something there. If there is, I think it'll come out as a heel, so I'm looking forward to the eventual turn on Ryder, but with The Usos and probably Ziggler, there are quite a few turns going on. Maybe try running with him as a babyface for a little bit?

I really wouldn't mind someone taking out Zack Ryder and then Rawley stepping up to them. I think if Rawley is pushed hard enough, the crowds will revolt and then you can turn him with some oomph behind it. I'm not sure who their plan for the next IC Champion is, but I could see value to the idea of giving the strap to Rawley for a bit -- especially if the end game is an eventual heel turn, as The Miz seems to be garnering some good will at the moment.

Heisenberg 09-20-2016 08:41 AM

Mojo reminds me of a couple guys I served with that we kept the drugs and booze away from. He's midcard and happy to be there doing his job.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 08:50 AM

I don't know, he seems like a driven guy. What's the word I'm looking for?

Heisenberg 09-20-2016 08:57 AM

ripe?

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 08:58 AM

Maybe. Might sound a little like that.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 08:58 AM

Type?

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 08:59 AM

Randy Orton not a fan of the fist-raising during the American National Anthem, according to his Twitter account. He states that courage is what it takes to stand and fight, not just raise a fist. Think Orton's angling for another shot at starring in The Marine?

Heisenberg 09-20-2016 08:59 AM

Gripe?

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 08:59 AM

Tripe?

Evil Vito 09-20-2016 09:02 AM

I think Mojo could have some success as a solo act. I think I'd prefer him to be face rather than a heel, though. Maybe Ryder can be the one turning on him, re-aligning with Curt Hawkins because we all know they're going to give up within a matter of weeks on making Hawkins a big deal as a solo guy.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 09:13 AM

My problem with Mojo Rawley as a face act is that he's such a pristine golden boy type. He's the dude that works hard, shows up every day, does well in school, does well in sports, gets all the girls, etc. It'll be hard for the neckbeards of the world to get into a guy who is such a winner at life who is also probably really humble and listens to whoever his coach is.

Obviously generalizations as I don't know the man, but that's how his history has been presented. It's easy to resent an overachiever like that. I'm not saying he's going to be the next Rock or anything, but that's sort of the blueprint I'd use with Rawley. Push him as a face, let the fans revolt, turn him heel and roll with the punches. Maybe in time he'll become "cool" enough to turn face again and give a solid run on that front.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4862660)
I think Mojo could have some success as a solo act. I think I'd prefer him to be face rather than a heel, though. Maybe Ryder can be the one turning on him, re-aligning with Curt Hawkins because we all know they're going to give up within a matter of weeks on making Hawkins a big deal as a solo guy.

I've got no clue what they are even trying to achieve with Hawkins. I assume he's meant to be a heel because he's cocky, but he's cracking jokes all the time, so I guess he's supposed to be face? I dunno. I like him well enough in the ring, even if I suppose he is unremarkable. I always thought he was smoother than Ryder. I liked that body slam with stank he does.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 09:19 AM

Mojo Fact: Mojo was called "The Iron Sheik" when he was a football player, because of his strength.

God damn, would Iron Sheik as Mojo Rawley's "coach" not be 1000x times better than Bob Backlund as Darren Young's life coach...

Evil Vito 09-20-2016 09:20 AM

I think the "Curt Hawkins Facts" just reek of cocky heel. My fear though is that he's going to walk out to crickets during his debut because nobody knows what the fuck he's supposed to be yet and the people who have watched long enough only know him as a jobber.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 09:23 AM

I think that is EXACTLY what is going to happen. Maybe he'll prove us all wrong and win the IC Title at No Mercy and prove that title belts chase Curt Hawkins?

Evil Vito 09-20-2016 09:25 AM

I kinda don't ever want to see Miz lose the IC Title at this point. But I would be all for giving Hawkins a proper match at No Mercy if they actually want to make a big deal of him.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 09:25 AM

Apparently a few guys have been knocking back WWE offers because they don't really want to go on the road again just to job. I'm not sure how valid those reports are, but it wouldn't surprise me to see Vince reward the guys who do take him up on his offer so people in the future don't dare knock him back when his representatives call.

I'm sure there are a few reasons Heath Slater & Rhyno got the tag belts -- among them Rhyno being on the right side of Vince McMahon's politics, Heath Slater getting over and Vince generally enjoying the yucks -- but it wouldn't surprise me if it's a "thanks for actually coming in" reward for Rhyno.

Evil Vito 09-20-2016 09:26 AM

Remember that one episode of SmackDown where Curt Hawkins and Tyler Reks did a striptease dance and it literally never got mentioned on TV again after that? What the fuck was that all about?

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4862681)
I kinda don't ever want to see Miz lose the IC Title at this point. But I would be all for giving Hawkins a proper match at No Mercy if they actually want to make a big deal of him.

Against who though? The singles guys that aren't tied up in programs right now are Kane and Jack Swagger -- I can't see Hawkins going over Kane and Swagger needs wins of his own.

I guess that maybe Curt Hawkins beating Dolph Ziggler at No Mercy could be the straw that finally breaks the camel's back on that front. I could see them running Ryder vs. Hawkins and getting Ryder to do the honors too, but beating Ryder really doesn't mean much at this point.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4862683)
Remember that one episode of SmackDown where Curt Hawkins and Tyler Reks did a striptease dance and it literally never got mentioned on TV again after that? What the fuck was that all about?

I think Tyler Reks quit the company because he wanted to spend time with his son, and he probably came to the conclusion that he was never going to go anywhere with the company. This left Hawkins without anything to do and he was let go too.

I think the idea was that they were going to try out different tag team gimmicks on the main roster to try and get over. Basically TAFKA Goldust sort of stuff.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 09:31 AM

If they brought back Reks there'd at least be someone for Hawkins to team up with to fight The Hype Bros.

Evil Vito 09-20-2016 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4862686)
Against who though? The singles guys that aren't tied up in programs right now are Kane and Jack Swagger -- I can't see Hawkins going over Kane and Swagger needs wins of his own.

I guess that maybe Curt Hawkins beating Dolph Ziggler at No Mercy could be the straw that finally breaks the camel's back on that front. I could see them running Ryder vs. Hawkins and getting Ryder to do the honors too, but beating Ryder really doesn't mean much at this point.

Actually, Hawkins going over Ziggler doesn't seem like a bad idea at all. Even though he seems to shit the bed in his PPV matches all the time, the crowd still seems to give some semblance of a shit about Dolph and it'll give him more of a reason to go over the edge and turn heel.

The only concern there is that SmackDown could get quite crowded on the heel side. Unless Hawkins/Ziggler is presented as face vs. face or they do a double-turn.

Evil Vito 09-20-2016 09:34 AM

Swagger needs wins but if his first feud ends up being with Baron Corbin as expected I have to think Baron's coming out on top. It might just turn out that they brought Swagger to SmackDown solely to give Corbin a low carder to go over while they try to figure out where he should go next (aka same thing they are doing with Braun Strowman/Sin Cara on Raw).

Evil Vito 09-20-2016 09:36 AM

Actually mentioning Sin Cara.....Kalisto vs. Curt Hawkins oddly intrigues me. I actually think those two could have some damn good matches and it makes me sad that Kalisto is buried with nothing to do. I know he's been nursing a back injury but that could be a decent program once he returns.

Or they could do the logical thing (lol) and have Kalisto's contract expire so he can go to the Raw and the Cruiserweight division.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4862691)
Actually, Hawkins going over Ziggler doesn't seem like a bad idea at all. Even though he seems to shit the bed in his PPV matches all the time, the crowd still seems to give some semblance of a shit about Dolph and it'll give him more of a reason to go over the edge and turn heel.

The only concern there is that SmackDown could get quite crowded on the heel side. Unless Hawkins/Ziggler is presented as face vs. face or they do a double-turn.

Hawkins/Ziggler as a heel team? I'm pretty sure they are going with Ziggler turning on Dean at some point, and predictable isn't always bad, but I'm not really sure how much people will care about it. Ziggler/Hawkins provides another tag team for Alpha to eventually smash, because I can't see The Usos staying too fresh as the heel team for as long as they need to if they wrestle every PPV.

I've got no clue why Kalisto isn't on RAW. I get that they want one cruiserweight to not be a cruiserweight, but Kalisto is such a fucking cruiserweight, ha-ha. Zayn would have been a guy to get away from that.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 10:26 AM

What's everybody's leading bets as to what the WrestleMania main event is going to be? As of right now, I'm leaning towards AJ Styles vs. John Cena for the WWE World Title. I think Styles finds a way to keep the belt at No Mercy, avoids a one-on-one match with John Cena until WrestleMania.

I'd love for it to be AJ vs. Brock, but something about that just doesn't seem right. It feels like two "outsiders" fighting over the belt. I know WWE has fully embraced AJ, but it still feels like he's "young" in WWE years, and Brock is never around. The only problem is that they've done Styles vs. Cena a fair bit over the past year. Cena was sort of there to get Styles into the title picture.

They seem to be keeping Styles vs. Orton in their back pocket, but do you think Orton can get hot enough to headline? I could see Seth Rollins or Roman Reigns winning the Royal Rumble and using it to jump over to the SmackDown side of things too, depending on how Vince feels about their chances of being a top babyface at that point in time.

Weird that the only thing I really feel pretty sure about is Styles defending the World Title against someone.

Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 10:29 AM

Oh, and don't ask me why, but I have a very weird feeling that AJ vs. Bray could happen, with possible Club and Family involvement, with Bray being a babyface. I think he came back as a heel just to be functional for whatever it was they put him in again, but when they run out of ideas for him as a bad guy he'll be given a strong push as a face. That's my really "out there" pick.

Black Widow 09-20-2016 10:48 AM

How about keeping those discount Austin's away from AJ?

mike adamle 09-20-2016 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4862695)
Hawkins/Ziggler as a heel team? I'm pretty sure they are going with Ziggler turning on Dean at some point, and predictable isn't always bad, but I'm not really sure how much people will care about it. Ziggler/Hawkins provides another tag team for Alpha to eventually smash, because I can't see The Usos staying too fresh as the heel team for as long as they need to if they wrestle every PPV.

You can't see people caring about Ziggler & Ambrose but they'll care about Ziggler/Hawkins????? :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

mike adamle 09-20-2016 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4862705)
What's everybody's leading bets as to what the WrestleMania main event is going to be? As of right now, I'm leaning towards AJ Styles vs. John Cena for the WWE World Title. I think Styles finds a way to keep the belt at No Mercy, avoids a one-on-one match with John Cena until WrestleMania.

I'd love for it to be AJ vs. Brock, but something about that just doesn't seem right. It feels like two "outsiders" fighting over the belt. I know WWE has fully embraced AJ, but it still feels like he's "young" in WWE years, and Brock is never around. The only problem is that they've done Styles vs. Cena a fair bit over the past year. Cena was sort of there to get Styles into the title picture.

They seem to be keeping Styles vs. Orton in their back pocket, but do you think Orton can get hot enough to headline? I could see Seth Rollins or Roman Reigns winning the Royal Rumble and using it to jump over to the SmackDown side of things too, depending on how Vince feels about their chances of being a top babyface at that point in time.

Weird that the only thing I really feel pretty sure about is Styles defending the World Title against someone.

I'm hoping for AJ/Brock. But there's 5 possible matches I'm thinking we could get as main event: either Rollins/Triple H for the Universal title in the Main Event, John Cena vs. The Undertaker, WWE Universal Title Triple Threat Hell In A Cell- Roman Reigns (C) vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins, or a long shot but WWE Title Match- John Cena (C) vs. The Rock

Would also love if Lesnar wins the Universal Title from Owens at the Rumble and Balor returns and wins the rumble to set up Brock/Balor at WM.

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Big Vic 09-20-2016 11:25 AM

Uhhh......what?

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Exyle 09-20-2016 01:17 PM

Have they specifically said that the reward for the Sheamus/Cesaro best of 7 series is a Universal title shot? Unless I missed it, the verbiage has always been vague. "A future title opportunity."

If so, imagine if Cesaro wins it, thanks Mick Foley, and tells him, "Give me a week to decide." Then, he shows up the next night on SmackDown, beats Miz for the IC title, and stays on SD. Cesaro gets to be where he wanted to be all along, and Daniel Bryan gets the IC title off Miz.

slik 09-20-2016 02:09 PM

Cesaro will prob feud with US Champ Roman Reigns next is my guess...

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Fignuts 09-20-2016 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Exyle (Post 4862744)
Have they specifically said that the reward for the Sheamus/Cesaro best of 7 series is a Universal title shot? Unless I missed it, the verbiage has always been vague. "A future title opportunity."

If so, imagine if Cesaro wins it, thanks Mick Foley, and tells him, "Give me a week to decide." Then, he shows up the next night on SmackDown, beats Miz for the IC title, and stays on SD. Cesaro gets to be where he wanted to be all along, and Daniel Bryan gets the IC title off Miz.

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Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4862757)
Cesaro will prob feud with US Champ Roman Reigns next is my guess...

Or, you know, Sheamus wins.

Evil Vito 09-20-2016 03:25 PM

I feel like I'm way past the point of being able to give a fuck about Sheamus, which is sad because the guy is a really good wrestler.

Emperor Smeat 09-20-2016 03:54 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 4862711)
You can't see people caring about Ziggler & Ambrose but they'll care about Ziggler/Hawkins????? :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:

You're obviously looking at things on different levels. I'm talking proportionately, and not in terms of sheer mass volume. Everything doesn't need to be in a big melting pot -- that's part of the problem.

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Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 4862712)
I'm hoping for AJ/Brock. But there's 5 possible matches I'm thinking we could get as main event: either Rollins/Triple H for the Universal title in the Main Event, John Cena vs. The Undertaker, WWE Universal Title Triple Threat Hell In A Cell- Roman Reigns (C) vs. Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins, or a long shot but WWE Title Match- John Cena (C) vs. The Rock

Would also love if Lesnar wins the Universal Title from Owens at the Rumble and Balor returns and wins the rumble to set up Brock/Balor at WM.

If Undertaker decides to wrestle at Mania, it'd be a good year for him to put someone else over. If he does that, the person who beats him is going to draw immediate comparisons to Brock Lesnar. Given that this will put Brock on a collision course with whoever this person is, and I can't imagine that match going lower on the card than, say, Kevin Owens vs. Finn Balor, it would make total sense to put the World Title on Brock.

Brock could simply win the Royal Rumble and jump over (I don't know why that loophole in the Rumble winner's contract hasn't been fixed up yet), but they might try to babyface him a bit more by making him more of an ally to Shane McMahon. Like, once Shane gets beaten up by Brock, he earns Brock's respect for taking such a good beating for what he believes in. It also doesn't make sense for Brock to get a title opportunity on RAW. If Kevin Owens is the hand-picked guy over there, why put him against that legit killer in Brock? It makes more sense for Triple H to deny Brock a Rumble spot, and for Brock to jump over to SmackDown for one. Being "held back" by Triple H faces Brock a bit more for that eventual title win too.

Plus, if Brock's contract comes up, I imagine he'll ask for more money, which might mean that Vince will try to squeeze a bit more out of Brock, which might mean a change from his exhibition schedule to something a bit more meaningful. A Royal Rumble win and title run would fit that.

slik 09-20-2016 05:24 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 09-20-2016 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4862757)
Cesaro will prob feud with US Champ Roman Reigns next is my guess...

I'm hoping this is the case, but you can never count out Sheamus winning something he really shouldn't. Reigns vs. Sheamus for the US Title? It could definitely happen.

Emperor Smeat 09-20-2016 07:30 PM

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Bad News Gertner 09-20-2016 08:18 PM

Received word that former WWE wrestler Rico is in extremely rough shape. Heart and lung issues plus having trouble remembering anything. Pretty sad.

Emperor Smeat 09-20-2016 09:01 PM

According to the Observer, Luke Harper is likely heading to RAW and not Smackdown.

Was backstage during last night's RAW with a few other injured or unused RAW wrestlers implying he's with that brand now.

mike adamle 09-20-2016 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4862961)
Received word that former WWE wrestler Rico is in extremely rough shape. Heart and lung issues plus having trouble remembering anything. Pretty sad.

What's wrong with him?

Bad News Gertner 09-20-2016 09:39 PM

He's apparently having tons of issues due to concussions. He's pretty much secluded himself and has no money for treatment. Kenny Bolin (Rico's manager in OVW) posted this on his facebook page. Pretty sad.

"it saddens me to inform you that I have just found out that a Former WWE star and very dear friend of mine named Rico Costantino (Rico the Stylist) is very, very sick and has been since at least early January. He has no help financially at all, no disability help and none in sight. He has not spoke a word to hardly any one in like 9 months. he desperately needs our help. he also has severe diagnosed concussions, a collapsed lung and sever heart problems way to detailed to get in to here. I spoke to his X-wife and length last night and she is trying to take care of him as best she can. i am hoping we can set up a go fund me account to assist him as soon as his X can get me the banking info to have it sent too. i also hope the WWE and Vince Mcmahon, Stephanie McMahon or Hunter will chime in and help this great and very nice man who gave his life to helping others till here recently. Lets get the word out about Rico's illness to those who may be able to help him in this extreme time of need. as i get more info from his X Linda i will pass it on. i will be contacting a few of my former and current WWE stars to rattle some cages in hope of getting rico some financial help. his illness was not caused by drug abuse as in the case of many others who got help. and his severe concussions were acquired entertaining all of us over the years. Linda says he can say something in one hour, and totally forgot he said it 2 hours later. i do hope we can all band together and give just a little that may up in the end being a lot and a life saver for Rico. he needs our help. he deserves our help. those of us who loved him and were entertained by him. he is one year younger than me and looked 20 years younger. Linda says we would not recognize him now. please help me help him and rattle a few cages. thank you all very much" K.B

Mr. Nerfect 09-21-2016 08:00 AM

Poor Rico. :( I was thinking about him the other day -- a really underrated talent. If he's in that sort of shape, I hope the WWE throws some money towards his medical bills. He helped a lot of talent come along in OVW by many accounts.

Mr. Nerfect 09-21-2016 08:01 AM

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Evil Vito 09-21-2016 08:52 AM

That's awful news about Rico :( kinda shocking too as last I had heard about him he was doing well as a police officer.

Heisenberg 09-21-2016 09:02 AM

Damn, the 50s are fuckin terrible if you were active in your youth.

Cool King 09-21-2016 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4863176)
That's awful news about Rico :( kinda shocking too as last I had heard about him he was doing well as a police officer.

Yeah, I thought this too.

Cool King 09-21-2016 11:19 AM

Maybe Charlie Haas and his wife Jackie will help.

I honestly can't see Vince, Stephanie or Triple H helping in any way.

Cool King 09-21-2016 11:24 AM

I don't know why, but part of me feels that it's all not as bad as Bolin is making it out to be.

Rico is most probably ill and I really hope he gets better really soon, but from reading what Bolin said, it's coming across like Rico is at death's door.

I hope he's not though, but it's just a weird feeling I have. I dunno. :-\

Black Widow 09-21-2016 12:24 PM

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mike adamle 09-21-2016 01:11 PM

Is this Rico thing just a gimmick for Lucha Underground or the real deal??

Emperor Smeat 09-21-2016 04:12 PM

Current rumor going around the net involves the WWE toning down the new Cruiser division for RAW compared to them having a lot more freedom with the CWC tournament.

Assuming its true, probably a mix of the other divisions already doing Cruiser-like moves for matches and not wanting the new division to upstage everything else for the brand. Also maybe for health reasons considering WWE's recent Papa Shango injury curse and WWE's touring schedule being pretty brutal in terms of lack of rest.

Big Vic 09-21-2016 04:15 PM

Doubt it's true, stupid if it is.

Simple Fan 09-21-2016 04:23 PM

I bet it is true. Never thought the Cruiserweight division would be any different than the rest of Raw.

Innovator 09-21-2016 04:35 PM

Well no shit, I don't think we're gonna see some Burning Hammers in the middle of RAW

Big Vic 09-21-2016 04:52 PM

Oh did we get Burning Hammers on CWC?

Emperor Smeat 09-21-2016 04:54 PM

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XL 09-21-2016 05:45 PM

Yeah, I'm all for them reigning the guys in a little. Some of the stuff they did was just dangerous.

Nicky Fives 09-21-2016 05:56 PM

All they need to keep is the intensity.

slik 09-21-2016 06:20 PM

Cruiserweights in the doghouse with nuclear heat

Quote:


As seen on Monday’s episode of RAW, the cruiserweight division finally made their debut on the main roster. Brian Kendrick, Gran Metalik, Rich Swann and Cedric Alexander all battled for an opportunity to face TJ Perkins’ for the Cruiserweight Title at WWE Clash of the Champions.

For those that were expecting the same high-flying style of wrestling as they seen on the Cruiserweight Classic will be sadly disappointed. Apparently WWE is going to tone down the division that is seen on Monday’s RAW every week, so that they aren’t doing as many big flips and high spots during their matches.

http://nodq.com/wwe/476485961.shtml


Emperor Smeat 09-21-2016 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4863271)
Yeah, I'm all for them reigning the guys in a little. Some of the stuff they did was just dangerous.

Yeah just cutting back on the dives to the outside will help out a lot and be good for the health of the division. Forgot who from the CWC stated it but the WWE was already reigning in stuff wrestlers were doing in the indies for the tournament.


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Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4863273)
All they need to keep is the intensity.

As long as they don't always feel like the debut match on RAW or reports about Swann-Dorado for Main Event tapings being really toned down. The Fatal Fourway felt a bit too slow paced although could have been more of them trying to fit the Cruiser style into the typical WWE style multi-man match.

XL 09-21-2016 06:34 PM

They absolutely should tone right down if they're doing Main Event matches. Who watches that show?

Bad News Gertner 09-21-2016 09:14 PM

Lol check out this story from an old Wrestling Observer Newsletter. Never heard of this before.

– The Rockers showed up at the tapings with their faces beaten black and blue, as they apparently got into a very violent fistfight with each other in Denver a few nights before, with Shawn getting the worst of it.█ Most sane wrestling promotions would put them on TV and blame their current enemies on the beating.█ The WWF sent them home until further notice.█ Shawn wants out of the team, and Vince has asked Marty to turn heel and go single.█

Emperor Smeat 09-21-2016 09:30 PM

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Tom Guycott 09-22-2016 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4863327)
Lol check out this story from an old Wrestling Observer Newsletter. Never heard of this before.

– The Rockers showed up at the tapings with their faces beaten black and blue, as they apparently got into a very violent fistfight with each other in Denver a few nights before, with Shawn getting the worst of it.█ Most sane wrestling promotions would put them on TV and blame their current enemies on the beating.█ The WWF sent them home until further notice.█ Shawn wants out of the team, and Vince has asked Marty to turn heel and go single.█

The Heartbreak Kid, Marty Janetty!

Mr. Nerfect 09-22-2016 05:46 AM

http://www.inquisitr.com/3529941/for...medical-bills/

:(

Fignuts 09-22-2016 07:25 AM

Mauro is getting a little ridiculous with the japan shout outs.

Like, okay name dropping Fujinami and Choshu I can kind of get, as they're legends, and the moves they innovated are iconic but....

Katsuyori Shibata? Ryuske Taguchi?

Like 2% of the audience are going to know who you are talking about. You could say it helps bring attention to those guys, but it comes off more as shameless pandering to the smark crowd to me.

Fignuts 09-22-2016 07:33 AM

Jordan and Gable's theme is fucking terrible. So boring. Sounds like a worse version of Appolo Crews' theme, which is itself not great.

VSG 09-22-2016 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4863434)

Am I being a doofus or is there no link to the GoFundMe in that article at all?

Cool King 09-22-2016 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4863444)
Jordan and Gable's theme is fucking terrible. So boring. Sounds like a worse version of Appolo Crews' theme, which is itself not great.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of it myself.

I'm not really a fan of their singlet designs either.

Cool King 09-22-2016 08:59 AM

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Big Vic 09-22-2016 09:58 AM

He should have Touted it.

Black Widow 09-22-2016 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4863281)
Cruiserweights in the doghouse with nuclear heat

That's exactly what I wanna see while watching Cruiserweights Dumbasses!

Big Vic 09-22-2016 11:18 AM

I want to see a cruiser weight divison where they can only use rest-holds.

The Ravishing One 09-22-2016 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4862961)
Received word that former WWE wrestler Rico is in extremely rough shape. Heart and lung issues plus having trouble remembering anything. Pretty sad.

That's a shame :(

I was in Seattle for WrestleMania 19 and noticed crowds gathering outside a hotel. People were waiting for wrestlers to enter/leave during the day. We saw a few while we stood there, one being Rico. He arrived back to the hotel with his girlfriend/wife and rather than ignore everyone or just sign the odd 1-2 (like the others) he made his other half wait while he signed/took pictures with everybody. Even asking at the end "Is that everyone?"

Gave me a new appreciation for the guy. Hope he gets better :y:

Cool King 09-22-2016 04:00 PM

Sakamoto must be desperate for money.

I've just found out that he'll be wrestling at a bar here on Sunday.

Cool King 09-22-2016 04:01 PM

I've just read up on Sakamoto and apparently, during his time with the WWE, he never won a single match.

Emperor Smeat 09-22-2016 04:10 PM

Supposedly the GoFundMe link to help Rico with his medical costs might be a scam since neither Rico nor Kenny Bollin are involved with the campaign.

Bollin recently left a message on the fundraiser page about how the money was going to be sent to Rico since the person in charge never contacted them. Comment itself was later deleted.

Also supposedly Rico had the big misfortune of getting seriously ill only a few months before he would have been eligible to receive a pension as a police officer.

Big Vic 09-22-2016 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4863503)
I've just read up on Sakamoto and apparently, during his time with the WWE, he never won a single match.

profightdb says he won 5 matches

Cool King 09-22-2016 04:20 PM

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Cool King 09-22-2016 04:20 PM

It's a pretty interesting video.

It's good to see that he's happy doing what he's doing and that he's moved on to bigger and better things.

Having "Where Are They Now?" be short videos is so much better than what it was before, which was just an article and a few photos.

I'll be watching the rest in the future.

Cool King 09-22-2016 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4863506)
profightdb says he won 5 matches

And that's why Wikipedia should never be trusted.

Big Vic 09-22-2016 04:49 PM

He probably won small time matches...

Edit: Yeah they were all house show matches..... I think?

Mr. Nerfect 09-22-2016 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4863443)
Mauro is getting a little ridiculous with the japan shout outs.

Like, okay name dropping Fujinami and Choshu I can kind of get, as they're legends, and the moves they innovated are iconic but....

Katsuyori Shibata? Ryuske Taguchi?

Like 2% of the audience are going to know who you are talking about. You could say it helps bring attention to those guys, but it comes off more as shameless pandering to the smark crowd to me.

Eh, that's kind of his gimmick. He's the guy who watches everything so you don't have to. Still pretty surreal to hear him in WWE. I imagine he'll be gone soon when he doesn't fit the WWE's storytelling ideals or whatever.

Emperor Smeat 09-22-2016 07:59 PM

Could also just be a small call back to his time announcing NJPW matches for AXS TV.


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