Gran metallik is just so fucking smooth, I like him. I also think it's smart to focus on a masked Lucha star for the cruiser division. I figured that would go to Kallisto but he may be too WWEized.

Ibushi has been great in each match and I think his style will get over instantly. He also brings such an easy built in gimmick of being the Japanese kick master. I see him getting over easy with casual fans.

I haven't dug Perkins, I don't know why, I do like his submissions and how he transitions into them. And he has a gimmick more so than a lot of guys just being "a guy with cool moves" but he hasn't done much for me yet. I think he will grow on me.

Gargano won me over. I love him as Johnny Wrestling the hard working Indy guy that made it big, tough as nails and ready to fight. Ciampa to a lesser degree.

Tozawa could be the top cruiser heel no doubt, great charisma. Just being the wwe I think it will be hard to keep two Japanese guys over but if Ibushi isn't full time Tozawa could be and be the top heel.

Jack Gallagher was good but I don't know if his style will ran slate to the casual fan.

Cedric Alexander and rich swan are stars.

I can kind of agree with that entire summary from what I've seen. I really want Gargano & Ciampa to remain a tag team away from the cruiser scene though.

Feel like the Raw Cruiserweight division is going to be a huge letdown compared to the CWC. You.Can tell they are giving the freedom in this tournament that they just won't get on Raw. Once it starts it will just be the same old over produced stuff that the rest the roster deals with.

What is this?

Even though I know the state that Chris Hero is in these days, I'm always surprised when I see him.

Or if HHH helped him instead of Owens

I agree, but MAYBE somehow they will let HHH run the cruisers separate...Like WCW had a clear line of delineation between the cruisers and the "Stars"

Just let them wrestle without promos or stories.

It might even help make Braun coming out for Squashes a bigger deal when he they roll out a big hullabaloo when he Wrestles after a straight forward cruiser match without much production

Now its too late to add more titles, but I wish the Tag titles went to smackdown and Raw just has a Cruiser Tag. Really go all in on the alternate style.

I know it would rule out a bunch of tag teams on Raw. But New Day and the Club on Smackdown makes so much more sense and the WWE could seriously cut some teams and no one would care if they refilled with Cruisers.

Sabre and Dar
Gargano and Ciampa
Cedric and Swann
Tozawa and Kendrick

Wait I jsut read Sabre and Ibushi wont be sticking around but Dar will.

I guess the cruisers are currently

Johnny Gargano-Tommaso Ciampa-Brian Kendrick-Rich Swann-Noam Dar-TJ Perkins-Cedric Alexander-Akira Tozawa-Jack Gallagher-Gran Metalik

Have Metalik with the tourney and turn Perkins heel. Let them fight for the first Cruiser title. or the CWC cup or whatever gimmick you want.

On the side Kendrick and Tozawa Heel out against DIY. Two nice cruiserfeuds to start. let Cedric, Swann, Jack have good matches ( idont dig Noam much either) in the background without a story until their time comes.

I didn't really see anything in Noam Dar until his match with Sabre. I thought he was pretty good there. I can see an upside.

Sucks about Ibushi, but I really won't miss Sabre all that much. Sounds like a good division, though. Comparable at very least to WCW's cruisers in their heyday.

Unrelated note, I enjoy matches from both Nakamura and Asuka, but they should NEVER be allowed to talk. Takes a lot away from them, I feel.

Asuka's mystic vanishes once she starts speaking in English, if anything give her a translator.

Ibushi is smart. Cruiserweight division will not be anything like the CWC once they move up to the main roster. Will just be the same 50/50 booking and probably ruin everything good about their characters, especially Jack Gallagher.

What........

This is how TNA intends to draw money in 2016, haven't you heard?

I'm also worried about this. I mean these are the people who couldn't book Ultimo Dragon properly. How do you fuck up Ultimo Dragon? All you gotta do is say "15 minutes. Go." That's it. He does the rest.

So yeah. Not a lotta faith in an actual division.

Brilliance that's what

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Broken Brilliance

I am long since over the broken gimmick.

Ronda Rousey was at tonight's AIW show.

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Is Backlash only two hours long, or something?

There are only six scheduled matches. Summerslam had thirteen scheduled matches.

I'd be fine with the single brand shows being 2 hours.

Ambrose vs. Styles will go 20+. I also imagine that they are going to be trying different "brand specific" PPV fight feelings. I imagine Mauro Ranallo will do some sort of main event break-down (or possibly even one for every match) and they'll do some sort of promo videos for the title match at least.

The Women's Title will not be short. We won't see an elimination for at least 5 minutes in, most likely. If you pace it out 5 minutes a fall that whole thing could go 25 minutes. So let's throw away an hour for that and the WWE Title match.

The Tag Team Title thing is not going to be short either. Slater will be beaten up for about 15 minutes. The whole thing will probably go close to 20.

Miz vs. Ziggler will be about 15.

Orton vs. Wyatt will probably get a lot of time too.

There's probably going to be some backstage segments and angles.

Shane will want to do something on it.

They can easily fill up 2.5-3 hours with this.

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That is what I have been thinking. I would like that tbh, most takeover shows are 2 hours and I liked when In Your House PPVs were only two hours.

I think they'll still have a pre-show match as well. I could see Baron Corbin vs someone random or Kane vs someone random getting that spot.

The original in your houses were only 2 hours long

I've also been questioning the not very packed card...there's not even a single pre-show match...will there BE a pre-show even?

If I had the Network and was considering watching, I don't think I'd like the thought of promos and backstage segments as filler if the show is scheduled for 3 hours. Maybe we'll get a surprise/impromptu match of some sort?

Honestly, it would have made SO much fucking sense that if they had done it when the iron was hot for it, he could be an over babyface by now

Yep, sure was. The week he came out and interrupted Vince and Austin was a reaction to being forced to apologize by the RAW GM for throwing soda on a family of Cena fans the week before, and big surprise, they were a black family...really think they were plants, TBH, just for it to happen for Vince's twisted, racist amusement backstage. Oh, and the video of Truth throwing the soda in those people's faces was as a reminder to Truth as to why he needed to apologize, and in response he "seceded" from WWE, LOL.

Honestly, It would be great if they werr just giving the current matches a lot of time, but they'll probably just fill it with pointless nonsense.

With the WWE doing a lot more ppvs now and Smackdown being a bit thin on both star power and roster size, probably would be the best for Smackdown ppvs to be 2 hours long.

Could take a page out of NXT and limit cards to 5-6 matches so matches get the time needed and no need to drag them to fill time nor have to add useless stuff to pad out the ppv. Also gives feuds not ppv worthy more time to reach it by the next Smackdown or joint ppv.

Won Pat Patterson's book todsy doing show trivia on the 605 Superpodcast today. Pretty excited.

What's KO's favorite soda's?


Sprite Owens Sprite
KOka KOla

He prefers to drink them at Night Owen's Night

Last ever RAW is WAR 15 years ago today for obvious reasons.

There's a pre-show scheduled and the show is planned to go 3 hours according to the Network schedule for today.

Seth Rollins was furiously masturbating whilst sexting a lady at that moment.

Or so he thinks. He actually got catfished by Jericho.

I'd be fine with Kane vs. Fandango at the PPV, just because Fandango is awesome.

God damn it, I just had one of those moments where I imagined a billionaire sinking some money into a true alternative to the WWE. Why do I tease myself so?

The Divas Match is Elimination. That will extend it.

Ah, crap. The title for the match didn't say anything about it being an elimination match, so I forgot to make it an elimination match in Tipsters.

Oh well.

They have to beat all the girls at once, you see.

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Cien Almas rumored to want to leave the WWE according to a recent interview by Del Rio.

Good, he's shit.

How is he shit?

The WWE really does suck at presenting Hispanic stars. They don't really seem to get what made them big deals in lucha libre and just kind of throw them out there as soft flippy guys.

It doesn't help the hispanic stars any that the majority make their name not having to speak much, thus are well behind promo-wise..... really make Rey Mysterio stick out as the amazing talent he is....

There is no doubt in my mind that WWE would have found a way to fuck up Rey Mysterio had he not already come in with name recognition in the states from his time in WCW. If he were coming in right from AAA or something he'd have flopped just like the rest.

Universal Champ : Kevin Owens
WWE Champ : AJ Styles
SD Tag team Champs : Heath Slater and Rhyno
Raw Tag Champs : New Day
SD Women's Champ : Becky Lynch
Raw Women's Champ : Charlotte
Intercontinental Champ : The Miz
US Champ : Rusev
NXT Women's Champ : Asuka
NXT Champ : Shinsuke Nakamura
NXT Tag Champs : The Revival


That's a damn good list right there.

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</th><th colspan="3">match</th><th width="15%">match type</th><th width="15%">title(s)</th></tr><tr class="chequered"><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE Backlash '16
Sep 11th 2016</td><td width="22%">Kane</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt</td><td>no holds barred</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE Backlash '16
Sep 11th 2016</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt</td><td width="9%">def. (forfeit)</td><td width="22%">Randy Orton</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="chequered"><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live (Smackdown)
Sep 10th 2016</td><td width="22%">Kane</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE Smackdown Live
Sep 6th 2016</td><td width="22%">Dean Ambrose & John Cena</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">A.J. Styles & Bray Wyatt</td><td>dark
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="chequered"><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE Smackdown Live
Aug 30th 2016</td><td width="22%">John Cena & Roman Reigns</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt & Seth Rollins</td><td>dark
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live
Aug 29th 2016</td><td width="22%">Dean Ambrose (c)</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt, Dolph Ziggler</td><td> 3-way Match</td><td>WWE World Championship
</td></tr><tr class="chequered"><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live
Aug 28th 2016</td><td width="22%">Dean Ambrose (c)</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">A.J. Styles, Bray Wyatt</td><td> 3-way Match</td><td>WWE World Championship
</td></tr><tr><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live
Aug 27th 2016</td><td width="22%">Dean Ambrose (c)</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">A.J. Styles, Bray Wyatt</td><td> 3-way Match</td><td>WWE World Championship
</td></tr><tr class="chequered"><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live
Aug 26th 2016</td><td width="22%">Dean Ambrose (c)</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">A.J. Styles, Bray Wyatt</td><td> 3-way Match</td><td>WWE World Championship
</td></tr><tr><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE Smackdown Live
Aug 23rd 2016</td><td width="22%">Dean Ambrose & John Cena & Roman Reigns</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt & Erick Rowan & Seth Rollins</td><td>dark
6-person tag</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="chequered"><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live - SummerSlam Heatwave Tour
Aug 14th 2016</td><td width="22%">Randy Orton</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live - SummerSlam Heatwave Tour
Aug 13th 2016</td><td width="22%">Randy Orton</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="chequered"><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE Smackdown Live
Aug 9th 2016</td><td width="22%">Dean Ambrose (c)</td><td width="9%">def. (DQ)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt</td><td>dark
</td><td>WWE Championship
</td></tr><tr><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE Smackdown Live
Aug 9th 2016</td><td width="22%">Dean Ambrose & Dolph Ziggler</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt & Erick Rowan</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="chequered"><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live - SummerSlam Heatwave Tour
Aug 7th 2016</td><td width="22%">Randy Orton</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live - SummerSlam Heatwave Tour
Aug 6th 2016</td><td width="22%">Randy Orton</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt</td><td>
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="chequered"><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE Smackdown Live
Aug 2nd 2016</td><td width="22%">Dolph Ziggler</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt</td><td>commentator: Dean Ambrose</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live - SummerSlam Heatwave Tour
Jul 31st 2016</td><td width="22%">Big E & Kofi Kingston & Xavier Woods</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Braun Strowman & Bray Wyatt & Erick Rowan</td><td>6-person tag</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="chequered"><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live - SummerSlam Heatwave Tour
Jul 30th 2016</td><td width="22%">Big E & Kofi Kingston & Xavier Woods</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Braun Strowman & Bray Wyatt & Erick Rowan</td><td>6-person tag</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE WWE Live - SummerSlam Heatwave Tour
Jul 29th 2016</td><td width="22%">Big E & Kofi Kingston & Xavier Woods</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Braun Stowman & Bray Wyatt & Erick Rowan</td><td>6-person tag</td><td>
</td></tr><tr class="chequered"><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE Smackdown Live
Jul 26th 2016</td><td width="22%">Dean Ambrose & Roman Reigns</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">Bray Wyatt & Seth Rollins</td><td>dark
</td><td>
</td></tr><tr><td>http://profightdb.com/img/flags/us.gif WWE Smackdown Live
Jul 26th 2016</td><td width="22%">Dolph Ziggler</td><td width="9%">def. (pin)</td><td width="22%">A.J. Styles, Apollo Crews, Baron Corbin, Bray Wyatt, John Cena</td></tr></tbody></table>

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HUGE match announced for next week. Storm and J.D Bolduc are going to finally defend their titles against BOTH Team FTW and The Dawning. This sounds like a potential match of the year contender as all three teams are incredible. I cant see how CHW can have Storm & J.D Bolduc retain but then again, if they do win, it will cement them as a credible force in CHW for years to come.


Any predictions for what will happen in this match?

I predict this post will be moved

Someone is getting scooped #getscooped

That's also, like, 70% of the entire roster. Where's Oprah? You get a title, you get a title....

Too much wrestling now. I'm supposed to watch a ppv every other week along with Raw on Mondays, SD on Tues, nxt and cwc on Wed. Jesus. That doesn't even include the "other" stuff that might have some fun nuggets in there like Suoerstars, Main Event or Talking Smack.

Still doesn't beat this though.

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You're good with me on that argument lol.

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Fucking hell, first Haku gets dumped on his head then Jimmy Hart gets press slammed into the mat almost face first. 8:15 mark. :eek::n:

It's Haku, it didn't even phase him.

A lot beats that. Cody and Beth are the only good ones there. Pretty sure I'd stopped watching WWE during that time because I don't remember Punk and Bryan being champions at the same time.

Some news about Cena's next return and him being a part-timer till next year's Road to Mania.

I am so pumped for the Cruiserweight division on Raw. With Corey Graves on the stick he should be able to hold some resemblance of what Bryan/Mauro brought. This is gonna change shit. WCW's cruiser division did, and these guys as a whole are almost equal to perhaps better than WCW's cruiser heyday.

The latest episode was amazing.

fuck. do NOT give Cena a 16th title reign, WWE. :n:

CWC has been great but I have no faith in it transferring over to Raw. Will just be the same 50/50 booking.

I am glad that JBL won't be calling any of the matches.

Really hope Cena breaks Flairs title record

I don't, He won titles in a company that had 2 world titles.

Cena vs. AJ Styles is THE World Title feud in WWE right now.

Everything else is major mid-card except for Brock.

Ryback is in the process of legally changing his name to Ryback. I can imagine him signing with TNA and them being like "We want to call you The Wrathener" and he's like ":|".

Kevin Nash is doing a Guest Booker with Kayfabe Commentaries. That should be sweet. He's booking him and Scott Hall should they have stayed with the WWF in 1996.

I think Flair did too, or was he in WWF at that point?

Doesn't Fabulous Moolah have that record?

Oh wait no I'm wrong Moolah held the title in 1987...

Nothing beats the golden period of September 18th, 2006- October 18th, 2006 when the champions were such legends as:

WWE Champion John Cena!!!!
WWE World Heavyweight Champion Batista!!!!
WWE Intercontinental World Heavyweight Champion The Nature Boy Ric Flair!!!
WWE United States World Heavyweight Champion The Rabid Wolverine, The Killer Chris Benoit!!!!
WWE World Tag Team Heavyweight World Champions Lance Cade!! & Trevor Murdoch!!
WWE Tag Team Champions The Legendary Team Of The Legion Of Doom!!!!!! (Animal & Heidenreich)
WWE Women's Champion Trish Stratus!!!
WWE Money In The Bank Holder EDGE!!!

What a time to be alive that was!!!

I am not happy with the renaming of the WWE Tag Team Championships. While I understand that it makes it easy to separate them from the newer straps, it creates confusion for us old timers who first saw them on the Smackdown roster. It also creates confusion for the idiots on WWE.com who can't distinguish between them and the now defunct World Tag Team titles.

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Cole pretty much has a WWE contract when ever he's ready to come in. Wouldn't mind him going to NXT to start either.

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I think it does cause of the douchebag with the WWE title and the douchebag with the US title.

I completely get what you are saying. But, that being said, the RAW/SmackDown dynamic is the only way it makes sense to have more than one set of belts. You can't have a WWE World Title and a WWE Universal Title and it make sense. But you can have a RAW World Title and a SmackDown World Title if each are treated as separately sanctioned promotions.