I'd be all for Swagger and Henry teaming on Raw regularly. I mean I keep thinking Mark Henry is going to retire soon and it seemed like WM32 in Texas was as good a time as any, but it didn't happen.

If Henry wants to keep trucking along, at least make use of him.

I think people wouldn't groan if Mark Henry actually got used on Raw more often. Unlike the groans every time Big Show's music hits.

I think Henry has said this is going to be his last year with the company. Why not give him one last shot? I mean, I'm not the guy's biggest fan or anything, but for the past five years or so he's had a lot more good will. He was around in the Attitude era and has the kayfabe respect of being a former World Champion. It's not like he's completely without value when used selectively.

I wouldn't put the tag straps on Swagger & Henry, but they can wipe out The Prime Time Players and have a short program with them, which Swagger & Henry win because they're not completely shit. Then they're there to be bullies to Enzo & Cass. Swagger's there to feed for Cass. Henry is there to take a pin that actually means something. Even if that was all they did, it'd be more use than the WWE is getting out of them now.

You can have Bob Backlund throw in the towel for Young & O'Neil in their televised tag match and join Swagger & Henry, proclaiming them to be true American patriots.

I think it would be cool if Henry's last match is a title match. Like, don't make it title vs career, because that would be too obvious, but build it up as it being Henry's last shot at being a champion.

Henry barely comes up short of winning, but if built up properly, it could be a great, emotional sendoff for henry, and give a big rub to whoevef beats him at the same time.

At this point I don't think beating Henry gives anyone a big rub.

Nah, he's one of those guys who can be on main event for months, but then get built up as a monster in one show.

They've done it a coup,e times with him.

Which is why I don't wanna see it again. Not in 2016.

He can be built up, but in the end, beating him still would not mean much.

I wouldn't give him anything too major. But I think him working with a guy like Enzo, smartening him up how to work with a larger man, etc. Yeah, that could be good.

YIKES

Was he okay?

Wrestling showerthought: if Rollins ever adopts a new finisher, it should be called the Shield Breaker, or maybe the Shield Destroyer.

Something that references that he destroyed the Shield.

More like

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Or something much more catchy?

Sure. Just examples. I chose those because of the imagery. "Shield Breaker" conjures images of a medieval warrior bashing through an opponent's shield.

...Or, at least, it does for me.

Cagesideseats website had a pretty interesting article regarding the WWE's Women's division and the Divas/Women's belt being sort of a curse for one's career.

Winning the belt basically puts your career at a 50% chance of lasting a year after the reign ends in the WWE. 30% chance of lasting after 2 years.

Only Natty and Alicia Fox have managed to have decent careers without needing the belt in the WWE since their last reigns were 6 years ago.

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So Homer was the original "IT'S STILL REAL TO ME, DAMMIT!" guy/Crying Wrestling Fan?

I'd say Daniel Tosh owes him an interview, and that he also owes Arn Anderson several apologies for antagonizing him so much over the years.

If I was Vince I would tell Foley he doesn't need to turn the passion dial up to 11 in every promo.

I say Uso's lose to American Alpha, Alpha loses to Heath and Rhyno in the finals when the Uso's turn heel and cost Alpha the titles.

Yeah Usos screw Alpha in the Finals after Alpha eats their lunch tonight

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Because the kid knows how to fuckin' SELL, ya mark!

I would be down with "Dancin' Cody Rhodes" ONLY IF a) he teams with Tyrus-asaurus Funk, and b) he does the Alex Wright.

"Boppin' Brandi" not only conjures images of her dressing like Cherry (maybe sans roller skates, though... bobbi socks and poodle skirts though), but is something a number of us would love to do if the chance ever arose.

Remember when R-Truth was a hot heel in the WWE from like April-November 2011? Lol.

That is actually really awesome. So simple, but it gives both something to do, and they'd actually be a good working tag team. Swagger also has this way of making whoever he teams with look important. Well, it worked for Dolph Ziggler and Cesaro. This might be what Axelmania finally needs.

Cody Rhodes has been using Brandi as his personal ring announcer. I like that. I'm fine with TNA picking up Rhodes, because he chose to walk away from WWE. The same goes for Ryborg and Wade Barrett. They should get Kurt Angle back too since it's clear WWE doesn't want him.

The only problem would be that both lack the charisma to portray those characters.

The reason Three I Kurt Angle worked wasn't because he was a good worker, it's because he had all Time great charisma.

Look how bad Real American Swagger bombed with an all time great promo manager. He ended up the Jannetty in a team with Cesaro.

Guy is vanilla Shits.

And don't even get me started on Axel, the weakest link in a stable of jobbers.

I'm hearing rumors that Cesaro may not have re-signed with WWE. Is there any word on this? I wish Cesaro was used better and I want him to be visible, but if Claudio Castagnoli leaves the WWE to go and actually wrestle places, I will actually check out whatever product he is on. I imagine he'd go New Japan, but if Billy Corgan can get his hands on some of this talent...wow.

Axel has this endearing quality to him. I don't ever suspect he'll have the charisma his father did, but as a wrestling heel he has a function. He's getting to the age and experience-level where they can label him a grizzled vet too. His comedy stuff with The Social Outcasts kept him employed and allowed him to stretch facets of his personality.

I can understand the complaints against Swagger. I'm one of the few that thought his dorky run on SmackDown was actually pretty good, if badly booked. I felt his run against Del Rio should have been a US Title program. He's pretty fluid in the ring.

I don't think they would change wrestling or anything, but as asshole heels they might have a purpose. You've got them both there collecting money anyway.

Was that when he was the Miz's tag team partner and/or a Confederate soldier?

I like it. Neither had been used alot since the split and I think they'd be a great team.

What's Antonio doing in the Impact Zone

I've heard Dave LaGreca of Busted Open rant about not being able to see The Last Battle of Atlanta from 33 years ago..WWE uploaded it on the network. 12 minute Hell in a Cell style cage match with Tommy Rich winning despite being busted open about 3 minutes into the match. One off those things that could never live up to the amount of hype it got..I was expecting like twice as long..about the only good thing was how good the video quality was.

So much bad stuff this week that I skipped through; Sasha's all-over-the-place never-ending promo that ended with a swerve, "The Old Day" skit, 3 squash matches on one show, The SmackDown Women's division, whatever they're doing with Kane.

Sign from Smackdown last night.

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Yeah, lol.

I WILL DELETE YOU LIKE THE CHEESE THAT USED TO FILL THE HOLES IN SWISS CHEESE, CLOWDIO!!!!

I just saw the RAW rating. Ouch. I had no clue the WWE were barely sitting above a 1.0 share. I honestly thought they were doing better than that, because websites have been talking about the millions of viewers.

Someone on NeoGAF's wrestling board did the conversion and RAW hit the same ratings number Nitro did for its final episode.

Right when it looked like the WWE was building a decent cushion for the upcoming NFL season, they pretty much blew it this week.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the Cesaro news is true. He strikes me as somebody who is well aware of his own worth. He knows that not only would he have no trouble finding work elsewhere, but that WWE would bring him back in a heartbeat should he ever decide to return down the line.

Joe's reaction to Nakamura's entrance is tremendous

Doesn't help Monday was a holiday.

WCWs ratings went up a bit for it's final episode though

Loved crash and bob.

:lol: at a house show report from WWE's current international tour.

WWE pretty much repeating the same mistakes done with Cena when he feuded against Jericho. After Cena won the WWE belt, it was that feud and match with Jericho where afterwards he would never have the solid support of the crowd as WWE's top star.

Think it was Summer Slam that year that the fans really started turning on Cena.

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The people that make Kix cereal might have a problem

Is it just me or is zach sabre Jr. not at all impressive or entertaining? I don't get him.

Love the cwc and was excited to see him, as I heard such great things, he's been the least impressive in the tournament.

On the flip side, I'm now a Kota Ibushi fan boy.

Jericho/Reigns sounds like a good feud.

lol they're gonna keep pressing along with this overpushed babyface Reigns shit

How easy would it be to have Reigns turn and be a top heel for the company? This is so fucking dumb.

I'm trying to imagine the shape they'd be in if Reigns turned heel at Survivor Series last year.

I completely agree. I was impressed by how "technical" his shit was, but I can understand the complaints older guys have about it (apparently Regal and Finlay aren't fans). To me, when a guy like that makes it look easy, it's basically like overselling yourself. It's like a guy saying "Okay, my gimmick is that I have a Golden Dropkick, and if I hit you with my dropkick you have to lie down for ten seconds." Wrestlers with the gimmick "I'm a really good wrestler" by nature imply that everyone else around them isn't a good wrestler, if you know what I mean?

He looks way too skinny too. I never used to be a body guy, but if I were a casting director, I'm not even sure if he'd be ripped enough to be cast as a swimmer. A handsome guy, nice hair, clean look, etc. I like his natural delivery for promos. He just looks like a nerdy kid playing wrestler.

His facial expressions in the match I saw him in were dirt too. His eyes went way too wide and he left his mouth gaping. Hilarious, if he were a heel. I think he actually needs a lot more polish.

My dream gimmick at the moment is for Mustafa Ali show up on RAW as the "Lineal WWE Champion." He has a modern version of the winged eagle belt and The Authors of Pain are temporarily assigned as his bodyguards (not a full-time call-up for them). Rachel Ellering is signed to be his on-air girlfriend too. She's Ali's in with Paul Ellering, who can sometimes appear with Ali as his manager, but it's not neccesary.

Ali defends his Lineal Championship against scrubs for weeks and weeks and weeks. He does things like handing a veil to Rachel in one town and she replies "But we're not Muslim" and he replies "No, but these people don't deserve to look at you." When he holds the ring ropes open for Rachel as she gets into the ring another week and the crowd boos, he asks them if they're booing because he's respecting a woman. Just try to flip expectations on people a bit while remaining true to the cheap heat tactics of the past.

Eventually, Ellering has to pull The Authors due to them needing to get ready for an NXT Tag Title match, so Ali brings in his new bodyguard -- Haku. Ali basically abuses Haku since he's paying the wages. "I'm the toughest man in wrestling. Could you beat me up in a fight, Haku?" Haku looks at Ali with seething rage underneath the eyes. "No." Crowd sighs with pattered booing. "Could you in your prime?" One of the announcers points out that now Ali is pushing it.

If the crowd gets behind Haku enough, fuck it, have him win the Lineal Title off Ali and have a nice little moment. But probably better for business is Haku playing the role of Mike Tyson at WrestleMania 14 -- Ali loses the belt, gets in Haku's face, Tongan Death Grip.

Haku is also included in WWE 2k18 as an unlockable supercharged character.

I dig the idea of his style, just not the execution. I hate the slow deliberate shit. Not when there is so much exposure to the combat sports he is emulating,

I don't mind technical shit, don't get me wrong -- but I'm with you on the execution.

I'd assume its just his style not meshing well with whatever the WWE wants or hoped from this tournament. His first match was pretty bad in terms of showcasing his skills but the other two matches were better.

WWE probably could have done a better job pairing him with better quality wrestlers like they did with Ibushi. They probably thought he would be a better version Gallagher but didn't factor in how different his British style is.

Rollins came pretty close to rejoining the Injured Guys stable recently. Managed to avoid getting hit with the Papa Shango curse again.

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SI interview with CM Punk:

So, Punk in NJPW could eventually be a thing. That'd be cool.

I dunno, there's something about me seeing guys doing suicide dives with the rail that close to the ring that makes me think "What the fuck actually goes through a wrestler's mind." He was probably thinking about soliciting girls in bars actually.

Punk will be back in wrestling. He's got too much love for it. I'm not entirely sure it will be the WWE. But New Japan, TNA and ROH are all possibilities. And when his in-ring career is done, he'll make a phenomenal commentator.

It's a shame Jeff Hardy is currently doing a comedy gimmick, because Hardy vs. Punk on different turf would draw a heap.

I'm in the same boat. Had heard a lot about Sabre Jr. but have not been impressed. Ibushi is a bad ass and I could watch him powerbomb people all day.

This is actually the first time Punk has even mentioned wrestling in AGES. Not too long ago he was cancelling interviews because people were asking him wrestling questions and he wanted none of it.

When he did his podcasts with Colt, he said he watched his wife's segments but that was the only wrestling he was watching. And aside from posting a GIF of him shaking Bryan's hand after he announced his retirement or commenting on a death here and there, he largely hasn't talked about ANYTHING wrestling related until now.

I was worried that his passion for the industry was totally dead, which is just a sad state of affairs for anybody who put nearly two decades of their life into it.

Oh, I have no doubt he was burnt out. And I can imagine not wanting to field the same questions constantly about something I had just left. Punk had other things on his plate and didn't want them diluted by ideas of a return.

I find it interesting that a lot of people aren't that impressed by ZSJ. Who have been the stand-outs for you guys in the tournament? I think I might go back and watch the final first round episode and catch up.

I'm just waiting for the WWE to release a series of stand-up comedy specials. King Kong Bundy, Santino Marella, Mick Foley, William Regal, Colt Cabana once this lawsuit stuff is dropped.

Of guys I hadn't seen before Gran Matalik has impressed me. As I said Ibushi is a bad ass.

I was kind of non-plussed by Ibushi's first match in the tournament. That being said, I don't think the first round was supposed to blow people away.

Is everybody still assuming Ibushi as winner? I still think that Gran Metalik is the smarter business option. They need a top Hispanic guy and they can't usually book one well, and simply advancing Metalik in the tournament has eliminated a lot of the problems they usually have.

Ibushi is going to be valuable to the company, but they've got Nakamura for the Japanese audience, plus they'll also have Tajiri and Akira Tozawa around. If Metalik loses, I'm just afraid of him becoming "just another guy." Have him win the tournament and be announced as Cruiserweight Champion, tear through a few guys, then have him beat Sin Cara in a Mask vs. Mask Match. Hunico returns to the WWE and attacks Metalik, who insists on defending his title despite an injury, allowing someone like Drew Gulak to take the belt and hold it for a bit.

You've set up one babyface and two good heels with that alone.

I honestly think TJ Perkins is the best choice. He's got the charisma and swagger, and he's quite good on the mic. I feel like if you're introducing the cruiserweight division to raw, you want a guy who can speak. Like, it's fine if you want Ibushi or Metalik as champ later, but I think they need someone who can speak to the audience as champ from the start, to help gwt the division over. And perkins is every bit as good in the ring as the other three.

That's a fair case. I think my big concern is that once Metalik is painted as a runner-up, he's done. TJ Perkins being able to talk is a good reason for him to lose. He can put over how the right cruiserweight legends went over. He can put over a program he is in away from the belt.

Is he still getting booed? I'd follow that and give him this full entourage of guys that accompany him to the ring. They're all in black and he's in a white hoodie or something. Basically present him how they presented Floyd Mayweather in his feud with Big Show. I guess that's sort of a champion's presentation, but I think it can get over away from the belt.

I kind of want a deranged Kendrick vs. Ibushi feud. "You beat me but didn't win the entire thing?" kind of motivation for Kendrick.

Listening to Dutch Mantel on the Jim Cornette Experience. Worth a listen to. He doesn't really go too in-depth, but he does explain how he booked Puerto Rico and some interesting anecdotes about TNA.

My favorite thus far is Dutch walking in on two guys talking to Kong and giving her some advice. Dutch pulls them up and asks them what they're doing and they say "We're trying to teach her how to work," or something, and Dutch tells them "She could teach you a thing or two -- like how to draw some fucking money."

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Cody looks like he's having fun just getting in touch with "wrestling" again. Good for him. :y:

Chris Hero, as was said recently in that other video someone posted of him, just looks a complete mess. :nono:

On RAW, wouldn't it make sense for Kevin Owens to throw the match with Reigns? A Triple Threat would be a better tactical approach for Owens, because he can pull in Chris Jericho and Triple H to help him out -- that's if Rollins and Reigns don't destroy each other in the first place?

It's the sort of cute booking I don't like, but that's the hazard of teasing this Triple Threat in the first place. If Owens had just won the belt cleanly and been targeted by Reigns, all these problems would be non-existent. Or if they had brought Rollins back as a babyface, he had won the WWE World Title and the new sets of belts were all created on SmackDown.

Instead of doing The Usos vs. The Hype Bros, cannibalizing one of the other few tag team combinations they have left, why not do a Triple Threat Tag Team Elimination Match at Backlash? The Hype Bros can go first and then Slater & Rhyno can have the dramatic final heat sequence with The Usos.

Actually, thinking about it some more -- I'm guessing The Usos win and then injure Heath Slater backstage. Slater hobbles down to the ring and sells, sells, sells. There's a hot tag, Rhyno cleans house, but gets overzealous on a Gore and is pinned. That one solves itself.

I'm not sure who should win the Women's Title. I can make a case for Becky, Nattie and Naomi. Becky would get the biggest pop and biggest emotional investment from the crowd, but there's something to be said for "poor booking" her to babyface success. Nikki is going to be fucking resented if she wins the belt, but that could be good? Nattie winning would just be a "thank you for putting up with the bullshit" achievement, and she can get a nice little run as Becky and Nikki compete to get over. Fuck it, there's a part of me that just wants to give it to Nikki as a "fuck you" to the world and see how much heat you can put on her.

I'm also wondering if they might be best off having Dolph win the IC Title too. I mean, he really gets nothing from winning it at this point, other than something to grind into the dirt to stop himself from plummeting right down the card, but The Miz is in a position right now where people will actually care if he loses the belt and does something. Whether it's just yelling at Bryan, leading to Shane stepping in or a new talent being brought up, or some sort of "open challenge" gimmick from Miz over the next few weeks. He might be more entertaining without the belt than with it.

How does everybody feel about the AJ Styles vs. Dolph Ziggler Title for Title Match I proposed somewhere on here? Dolph would win the IC Title and then cut a promo on SmackDown about how this was a stepping stone to bigger and better things for many great stars of the past, but how many times can Dolph Ziggler win and lose this championship? He needs to be THE man. He agrees to put it on the line against AJ Styles at No Mercy in exchange for a World Title shot.

Is Jasper Orton still under contract with the company? He's probably nowhere near ready for a sustained role, but he could be used in this Orton/Wyatt stuff somehow.