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Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2022 10:00 PM

There doesn’t seem to be anything confirmed, but the rumors from Fightful and Raj Giri seem to be that Malakai Black has asked for his release.

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2022 10:11 PM

I can see Buddy Matthews wanting out too. He’s been suspended in AEW, is part of a terrible faction, Triple H has power and it looks like his girlfriend might be put into a love story with Dominik Mysterio (and we know how those go).

Mr. Nerfect 09-01-2022 10:12 PM

Hell, I can see almost everyone wanting out of that shithole.

Destor 09-01-2022 10:14 PM

Rhodes backing out is pretty telling. They all kno theyve got a mark for a boss. No worker wants to answer to a mark. Its anathema

xrodmuc316 09-02-2022 12:40 AM

LOL Tiny out here blowing up against people questioning his booking of women again

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https://www.wrestlinginc.com/991133/...ew-promo-time/

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"I give the TV time based on what I believe is going to draw the most ratings," Khan said in the All Out 2022 media call. "If you want my honest opinion on an eight-minute Thunder Rosa promo vs an eight-minute CM Punk promo, then you're going to get an honest answer, and I think the eight-minute CM Punk promo is probably going to do a better rating ... To come out and do a live eight-minute promo, I'm not sure that would've been good for the television show, to be honest with you."

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2022 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5575055)
Rhodes backing out is pretty telling. They all kno theyve got a mark for a boss. No worker wants to answer to a mark. Its anathema

No doubt. The current backstage problems are also a symptom of this. It’s working for some guys because the mark is a mark for them.

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5575071)
LOL Tiny out here blowing up against people questioning his booking of women again

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https://www.wrestlinginc.com/991133/...ew-promo-time/

Oof.

#1-norm-fan 09-02-2022 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by #1-norm-fan (Post 5573687)
Yeah, caving to the derps and giving Thunder Rosa as much TV time as CM Punk would have been the mark of a true genius.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5573689)
The AEW Women’s Division is a joke. They definitely lied about presenting a decent division, but there’s nothing wrong with giving Punk more time.

OOF indeed!

#1-norm-fan 09-02-2022 03:22 AM

Bury that one FAST. Not a good look.

drave 09-02-2022 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5573689)
The AEW Women’s Division is a joke. They definitely lied about presenting a decent division, but there’s nothing wrong with giving Punk more time. The concept of interim champions itself is wonky though.


Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2022 09:01 AM

There’s nothing wrong with giving Punk more time. That doesn’t mean you go and bury your talent, lol.

drave 09-02-2022 09:03 AM

I dunno, you said the AEW women's division is shit, and there's nothing wrong with giving Punk more time.


They did that, and then oof?

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2022 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5575109)
I dunno, you said the AEW women's division is shit, and there's nothing wrong with giving Punk more time.


They did that, and then oof?

The oof is at Tony Khan’s self-own and treatment of his talent. I’d prefer it if they didn’t have a shit division in the first place. He’s stepped in his own shit there.

drave 09-02-2022 09:10 AM

So him agreeing with your idea that giving Punk more time is okay is... somehow different?

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2022 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5575113)
So him agreeing with your idea that giving Punk more time is okay is... somehow different?

Yes, it is.

1. I didn’t book the division.

2. They’re not talent on my payroll.

The issue isn’t Tony Khan giving CM Punk more time for a promo. It’s how he responded to the question of why.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2022 09:13 AM

“Why didn’t you push this person?”

“They’re not good enough.”

Yeah, that’s an oof.

drave 09-02-2022 09:16 AM

That's how it goes in the business.


It's no different than any other booker, historically speaking.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2022 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5575120)
That's how it goes in the business.


It's no different than any other booker, historically speaking.

Lol, are you still talking about the choice to give Punk a longer segment? I’m not arguing that. It’s not customary to be such a public dingbat about your talent at all.

drave 09-02-2022 09:23 AM

Customary? Perhaps.




Any different historically? No.

#1-norm-fan 09-02-2022 10:44 AM

Basically a bunch of morons complained about something stupid, Tony was asked about it at a media call and stated the obvious explanation and now it’s “oof”.

#1-norm-fan 09-02-2022 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5575116)
“Why didn’t you push this person?”

“They’re not good enough.”

Lol That’s how you assessed his explanation of Punk getting a longer promo than Thunder Rosa.

Amazing good faith conversation there.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2022 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by drave (Post 5575123)
Customary? Perhaps.




Any different historically? No.

It is different historically. You’re not going to find too many examples of bookers/promoters going out there and saying the things TK is saying. It’s a fairly new thing.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2022 03:38 PM

Malakai Black’s desired departure from AEW is said to be for mental health issues. If true, that’s not good. I hope he gets everything he needs to sorted, shit wrestling presentation aside.

XL 09-02-2022 03:51 PM

Tony has already come out and said he hasn’t asked for his release.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2022 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5575215)
Tony has already come out and said he hasn’t asked for his release.

Oh everything is fine and dandy then nvm

XL 09-02-2022 05:48 PM

Silly me.

Dirtsheets reporting something negative about AEW = the truth.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2022 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5575226)
Silly me.

Dirtsheets reporting something negative about AEW = the truth.

Do you deny there’s a large pro-AEW bias in the wrestling media?

Frank Drebin 09-02-2022 08:52 PM

More like LAME-stream media. Amiright??

Sepholio 09-02-2022 09:11 PM

fake (wrestling) news

xrodmuc316 09-02-2022 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5575215)
Tony has already come out and said he hasn’t asked for his release.

Just like he went out of his way to point out Punk is a super nice guy and had NOTHING to do with Colt Cabana not being allowed to come to AEW, just hours after Punk freaked out because a fan tried to chant Colt Cabana. Tony never spins anything :rofl:

#1-norm-fan 09-02-2022 10:37 PM

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Nash loves him some Orange Cassidy. Praises Punk putting guys over.

Destor 09-02-2022 11:10 PM

If you can watch ren and stimpy youll like orange cassidy"

#1-norm-fan 09-02-2022 11:23 PM

Big Ren and Stimpy fan. I clearly need to give Orange Cassidy another shot.

Mr. Nerfect 09-02-2022 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5575274)
If you can watch ren and stimpy youll like orange cassidy"

Lol, classic Nash covering his bases.

XL 09-03-2022 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5575257)
Just like he went out of his way to point out Punk is a super nice guy and had NOTHING to do with Colt Cabana not being allowed to come to AEW, just hours after Punk freaked out because a fan tried to chant Colt Cabana. Tony never spins anything :rofl:

It could very well be spin/damage control. My point was more that Noid is stating it as fact. Tony is saying otherwise.

Mr. Nerfect 09-03-2022 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by XL (Post 5575299)
It could very well be spin/damage control. My point was more that Noid is stating it as fact. Tony is saying otherwise.

I said “it’s said to be.” I’m not stating it as fact. It’s from the dirt sheets. But negative AEW news is not the norm. That shit used to be buried on purpose.

Do you disagree with this? And did Tony say that Malakai Black was happy or did he just say that he hasn’t requested a release?

Vastardikai 09-03-2022 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5575115)
Yes, it is.

1. I didn’t book the division.

2. They’re not talent on my payroll.

The issue isn’t Tony Khan giving CM Punk more time for a promo. It’s how he responded to the question of why.

I think the issue is bigger than that, in many directions:

1. An injury announcement involving a champion shouldn't be a ratings consideration.
2. It didn't have to be a 8 minute bit. It just should have been longer than 30 seconds and in front of the live audience.
3. Speaking of said live audience, not long after the announcement, Britt comes out to the crowd and buries your Champion, again.
4. Also, if there is any veracity to the heat between Rosa and Baker (which I am sure there is, given the parties involved), it looks as though Khan is taking sides. And it is with the party he is seen with in public at various sporting events. The same party who gets more screen time than both women's champions. As much as Vince was derided for having a "type" let's say. He wasn't having his picture taken standing next to Sable and taking her to big events with him.
5. The AEW Women's Division is not a draw. No lie there. That is because in no small part because it isn't treated as a priority. WWE had the same problem until Triple H noticed that four of the girls in developmental were bigger stars than most of the guys, and not just with horny dudes.

Jordan 09-03-2022 08:01 AM

Guys, Thunder Rosa sucks on the mic.

Vastardikai 09-03-2022 09:21 AM

It is just saying "I am gonna be out of action. Thank you and I'll be back to reclaim what's mine." That doesn't require much. No one is expecting her to bust out "Austin 3:16".

XL 09-03-2022 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5575211)
Malakai Black’s desired departure from AEW is said to be for mental health issues. If true, that’s not good. I hope he gets everything he needs to sorted, shit wrestling presentation aside.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5575307)
I said “it’s said to be.” I’m not stating it as fact. It’s from the dirt sheets. But negative AEW news is not the norm. That shit used to be buried on purpose.

Do you disagree with this? And did Tony say that Malakai Black was happy or did he just say that he hasn’t requested a release?

The “said to be” part is about the reason. Your sentence reads that his departure is desired (fact) and the reason is for mental health (speculation).

Tony just stated he didn’t ask for a release, didn’t mention happiness/mental well-being. I’d suspect Black isn’t happy/mentally well but this isn’t referenced anywhere by Tony, or by me when I said Tony has come out and said he didn’t ask for a release, you’ve raised that.

XL 09-03-2022 12:17 PM

But we’ve been here before. Now you say “that’s the way you’ve read it”.


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