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Destor 03-09-2022 06:30 PM

im here for it

Damian Rey 2.0 03-13-2022 12:11 AM

Count me in

Lengua 03-14-2022 03:15 AM

I'm excited. I think the grand inquisitor and the 5th brother look a bit goofy from thier animated counterparts (the 5th brother seems to be retconned into a human) but I'll wait and see before passing true judgment.

It's crazy to think that something that has been talked about for the last 10 years will be over and done with for good by July. It's bittersweet. If it was possible that I could lock myself into a social media free room for 6 weeks and binge this all at once, I would be ecstatic. Waiting week to week is going to suck, especially when we get that Vader cliffhanger.

XL 03-14-2022 09:58 AM

I still like watching things week-to-week.

Destor 03-14-2022 08:18 PM

gross

Lock Jaw 05-26-2022 08:29 PM

Obi-Wan tomorrow!

Then there's this:

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Confirmed to have two seasons of 12 episodes, and the finale of the second season will lead straight into Rogue One. The prequel to the prequel set after the prequel Trilogy. I didn't care about this much, but looks like it could maybe be "cool".... looks "visually good" at the very least....

ron the dial 05-26-2022 08:31 PM

oh hell yes i am there for that

Lock Jaw 05-27-2022 01:36 AM

Watched the two Obi-Wan episodes.... as expected a bunch of "continuity plotholes" created but it is fun.... so much more lively than Book of Boba Fett.....

Fignuts 05-27-2022 01:44 AM

I didn't give any shits about Andor when it was announced but that trailer looks really cool.

Ol Dirty Dastard 05-27-2022 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5552114)
Watched the two Obi-Wan episodes.... as expected a bunch of "continuity plotholes" created but it is fun.... so much more lively than Book of Boba Fett.....

Yeah continuity plotholes are a reality when your entire franchise is one retcon after another. But yeah, a fun couple of eps. Ewan McGregor is a delight.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-01-2022 07:55 AM

I'm never one to complain about stakes because I enjoy low-stakes shows where we do a lot of character work and "hanging out." But the stakes for some reason feel WAY too low in Obi-Wan given the players involved. It's fucking Darth Vader trying to get revenge on the mofo that turned him into stumps and burnt flesh and I feel like I'm watching episodes of Rebels.

It's a fun show, no doubt. And I'll watch an hour of Ewan McGregor every week since he's the man. But even with the badass inquisitors and Obi/Leia on the run in constant fear, there's somehow a galling lack of intensity and emotion.

Fignuts 06-01-2022 01:55 PM

You're not wrong, but how do you create stakes when we know the main characters survive. Solo had the same problem.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-01-2022 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5553693)
You're not wrong, but how do you create stakes when we know the main characters survive. Solo had the same problem.

Better Call Saul does it all the time.

And I hate that I used the term "stakes" because it's so overused and a hackneyed critique IMO. So many armchair experts who say, "BUT WHERE'S THE STAKES" and I can't help but roll my eyes because I'd argue too many shows have too many stakes, therefore eliminating all meaning in any of the said stakes. When all there are is stakes, there's nothing actually at stake.

Conversely, I love when shows take something that's seemingly meaningless and give it weight.

With Kenobi, they've decided it's Obi getting his groove back...which makes sense contextually. But they aren't putting him in interesting enough scenarios for it to work for me. Everything just feels slow, stilted, and unimaginative. And there's a distinct lack of grandeur.

Perhaps, he could've been more like Maximus in Gladiator after he lost everything.

Or, I'd have preferred if Obi-Wan flirted with full-on psychosis/madness instead of not wanting to fight. It would've made sense, especially considering in A New Hope, everyone thinks he's some crazy old hermit who lives out in the Dune Sea. Of course, by then, he's wise and sage. But it'd have been interesting if he earned the reputation for being a bit of a nutter.

Instead, we have a miniseries that's a lesser version of Mando and it's of the same quality as middling Feloni cartoon episodes. Sure, some Rebels, Clone Wars, and Bad Batch episodes are great, but they're more than willing to throw in clunkers. And there's no time for that in a miniseries.

I could deal with some of the missteps in Boba Fett because it was clearly a transitional show and the crimelord element had its plusses despite not fleshing out the way it should have. However, I figured they'd go guns-a-blazing with Kenobi and it's really quite blasé. It's disappointing that it's so sanitized given the backstory and even the non-movie canon (e.g., the Darth Vader comics) they can work with.

Crippla 06-01-2022 04:57 PM

I saw the yellow triangle with the exclamation point in the thread title from the main page and I thought Kris P was back :(

Lock Jaw 06-01-2022 11:40 PM

Just watched the third episode and came here to say I enjoyed it a lot.

SPOILER: show
F yeah Vader....

"Weird" at him starting a fire, burning Obi-Wan for a bit, then putting out the fire via the force so his men could take Obi-Wan into custody for more torture later...... but then when someone else starts a fire he just stands and watches it as if we didn't JUST see him put out fire with the force

ron the dial 06-01-2022 11:56 PM

i had the exact same thought but overall fuck yeah to the whole episode

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-01-2022 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 5554434)
i had the exact same thought but overall fuck yeah to the whole episode

but i wrote a whole essay stating otherwise. Clearly I'm right because I wrote more. That's how it works.

ron the dial 06-01-2022 11:57 PM

the only stakes i care about are steaks covered in ketchup and mayo

ron the dial 06-01-2022 11:58 PM

splash a little worcestershire on there and you've basically got homemade A1 :cool:

right? yeah. right. that sounds right.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-02-2022 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 5554437)
splash a little worcestershire on there and you've basically got homemade A1 :cool:

right? yeah. right. that sounds right.

I'd eat it.

Lock Jaw 06-08-2022 03:35 AM

Can't sleep so watched the new episode.... hot stuff yet again.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-08-2022 07:01 AM

Was better than the previous 3.

Fignuts 06-09-2022 01:46 PM

I want to like this cause Ewan as Obi-Wan rules, but there are a lot of really dumb moments that keep taking me out of it. Years of watching a zombie wizard wrestle in wwe has strengthened my sense of disbeleif but even im at my limit with some of these scenes.

Should just give all these star wars shows to Dave Filoni and Bryce Dallas Howard. Their episodes are always the best.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-09-2022 10:28 PM

Yeah I agree Figgy. For once. You fucker. Show is fun and decent, but I feel it's underdelivered for the reasons you've brought forth and the fact that considering who's involved, every episode should be nothing short of very, very good (I won't even say excellent). And it's been a string of c-minuses to c-plusses IMO

Fignuts 06-11-2022 12:00 AM

Also uh, pretty sure the Grand Inquisitor isnt supposed to be dead.

Lock Jaw 06-11-2022 01:12 AM

Pretty sure Leia isn't supposed to know Obi-Wan either, it is what it is I guess....

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-11-2022 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5556424)
Also uh, pretty sure the Grand Inquisitor isnt supposed to be dead.

I guarantee he's not dead. Which is annoying in and of itself.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-11-2022 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5556427)
Pretty sure Leia isn't supposed to know Obi-Wan either, it is what it is I guess....

I bet they'll do some kind of memory wipe...which again...annoying AF.

Fignuts 06-11-2022 02:59 PM

I was hoping Asajj Ventress would make an appearance, but I guess she died in some book.

Lame.

Fignuts 06-11-2022 03:00 PM

Almost as bad as Aura Singh being killed off in a line from Solo.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-11-2022 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5556472)
I was hoping Asajj Ventress would make an appearance, but I guess she died in some book.

Lame.

She died along with Quinlan in that book, who's been referenced as still being alive in Kenobi.

Fignuts 06-11-2022 04:30 PM

Did they say he was still alive? I thought they just said he had passed through the hideaway at some point.

Fignuts 06-11-2022 04:34 PM

Asajj was apparently killed by Dooku so shes gone either way.

Although it says she was laid to rest at Dathomir, and that place is super spooky, so maybe the witches there could use their hoodoo to bring her back.

Please?

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-11-2022 10:23 PM

Since Asaaj was killed in a book, I really wouldn't take that canon to the bank.

Fignuts 06-11-2022 11:01 PM

Thought I remember seeing that all books after the expanded universe was cancelled would be official canon.

Lock Jaw 06-11-2022 11:53 PM

Think that one in particular was just some unproduced Clone Wars episodes, so would be fairly "canon".....

But yeah, I mean Darth Maul literally got cut in half and survived so whatever

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-12-2022 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5556509)
Thought I remember seeing that all books after the expanded universe was cancelled would be official canon.

I just don't think they fear playing fast and loose with the books.

Blonde Moment 06-12-2022 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5556427)
Pretty sure Leia isn't supposed to know Obi-Wan either, it is what it is I guess....

Leia is the one who sent R2 looking for Obi-Wan in Episode 4

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-12-2022 09:51 AM

I watched Leia's message to Obi-Wan last night, and there is arguably a BIT of wiggle room in what she says. You'd think she'd be like "Wurd, remember the time you saved me from the Inquisitors and all that shit?" but she also never says they've never met. More just reminding him how he helped her dad years ago, and she needs his help now.

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-12-2022 09:51 AM

It's a fuckin stretch, but I really hope they do something to amend it by the final episode.


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